I have C0 sucrose and C4 linette… In my opinion, Linette does decent damage and generates a lot of ER but only with constellations…. I dont know which one to fully develop yet… also thinking about Jean to use with Neuvillete
Lynette and sucrose are similar in strength for a neuvillete team because he scales of HP and both can’t really buff that. However, the supports could be buffed to deal slightly more off-field damage. If you want more reaction damage use sucrose but if you want just raw damage use Lynette (with higher burst taunting uptime) Jean could also work as VV shredder but a shielder + sucrose could get the work done unless you are using two offensive supports (need healing from Jean)
If you don't have kazuha You should sucrose asap Cuz she is really the second best anemo buffer. She could be better than kazuha(when she is c6) In some cases.
At C6 Sucrose is definitely better but before that its kinda negligible depending on the team you wish to run, I prefer Lynette in my aggrevate team as she can uphold the VV shred long enough to keep Keqing on field and since I use Yaoyao and Oz (Fischl) I dont need to spend extra time on Lynette and can get more dps off that way. Lastly its probably just a skill issue but my sucrose ult doesnt last long nor swirl let alone get infused by my teams so i find Lynette a lot more useable and Versatile than Sucrose.
@@silenthunder23t It is true that Lynette has higher burst uptime, which could allow some mistakes to not effect the rotations. I would also like to point out that the cryo priority of Lynette’s Q infusion would allow melt teams to work better, but a downside is that Lynette has a harder time preforming double swirls with Xiangling which could be achieved with Guoba, but this is kinda niche so I’ll leave it there. Lastly, Sucrose as an anemo catalyst which could facilitate a lot of reactions, which Lynette has a hard time achieving without C6.
Try it out in teams that don't do elemental reactions. Like mono pyro teams. Sucrose is better in a team that needs em, but if they don't, the more dmg from Lynnette might be better.
(Please take with a grain of salt) That might be true, but just the fact that sucrose could use TTDS could make them equal in strength. I did not cover mono elemental teams because they are inferior in popularity than vape, melt and aggravate as they are used more commonly. Lastly, mono element teams might decrease Lynette’s value as she buffs ATK according to the number of elements in a team. Lynette is still a valid option, but honestly sucrose is a top tier 4 star which other 4 stars show difficulty competing with the versatility of sucrose. Maybe I’ll go do some calculations with a mono pyro team with Bennett and Xiangling to further prove my point as this is still my speculations.
I guess that could work but I simply don’t see the reason to use Lynette over Sucrose except of personal preference as only one party member requires the ATK buff and TTDS simply is more powerful. That being said, maybe the high scalings on Lynette’s skill might fill in the DPS loss from the 20-30% loss ATK buff to DPS unit
@@jimmmi7655 I’m assuming you mean teams without amplifying reactions. Both sucrose and Lynette works, just remember that Lynette buffs the whole team while sucrose could use TTDS to buff Ayaka only. The buffing effect will depend on if you have sub-DPS like Kaeya/Rosaria, but for shield/heal characters you could use Sucrose. Shenhe is a unique case as she uses ATK. Therefore Lynette could balance out the buffs to Ayaka and Shenhe.
The problem with sucrose is that: In alot of cases, she will hands down refuse to pick up elements. If she doss pick up elements then it's ALWAYS the wrong one more than not. Inconsistencies with her burst in general. And i mean where it will flat out not even pick up ANY ELEMENT till the very end and not beginning. Will refuse to drag in alot of enemies more than 2 inches away from her E skills aoe. Ttds is not worth the hassle to use nor makes up for how she feels like a beta test kazuha who's still unpolished. All ttds does is make tight rotations even more hellish... Lynette, not only is she free but can get 2 E presses at c4 and ia a mini yelan for it. Doesnt try to be a kazuha/venti/sucrose. Doesn't need to. Her burst will INSTANTLY pick up elements the moment it touches the enemies. Taunts the enemies during the entire duration of the skill. Can have really damn good uptime with enough ER% but not as much if you do only tap E or hold it in some cases based on cons. Want weapons? Freedom sworn is BETTER than TTDS and doesn't need to be a panic swap based on how quickly you switch out the character [god forbid you fuck up with ttds its even worse.] And guess who can use freedom sworn? All sucrose does in the end is gice EM but all the Inconsistencies she has is NOT worth it at all. If you so badly need a sucrose, get kazuha or venti. I will much rather use them over sucrose. And tbh, lynette's priority is better. It feels horrible when trying to use sucrose and sometimes kazuha because The priority is pyro > hydro > electro > cryo unlike lynette who is cryo > pyro > hydro > electro. Meaning she actually prioritizes freeze unlike others who put cryo dead last. Tbh i find myself using venti and lynette more than kazuha and i don't plan to build my sucrose after constantly trying to give her a chance. In some teams i will use kazuha but in the end venti and lynette just feel better.
(I'm sorry I have terrible grammar) Actually I kinda agree with the most part but I think for most players a C1 Sucrose (for 2 charges) is more accessible than C4 Lynette, and that TTDS is a significantly less rare than a freedom sworn. Also, a lot of Sucrose's advantage over Lynette comes from the easy access to applying anemo to swirl thanks to her being a catalyst character, therefore able to drive reactions on field in some teams such as taser and aggravate. Also, as transformative reaction teams (bloom/hyperbloom/burgeon) being the new meta, which is also easily accessible by all players, even relatively newer ones. The EM buff on sucrose is then significantly more useful than Lynette's attack buff as for 99% of players its the hyperbloom/whatever reaction dealing the most damage. Also, as there is an increasing trend of the number of boss characters in the harder floors, the grouping effect is often negligible and the buffs is where the value of Sucrose truly shines, which the whole point is to get the most out of f2p-friendly weapons/constellations choices. However, I would have to agree on Lynette being better on freeze teams or mono elemental teams as basically no one could utilize the EM buff more >90% of the cases and having more room for error, also her longer Q uptime is also a contributing factor if anyone wants to consider her.
Man i want sucrose soo bad. I really need both her and Bennet Iam now ar 49 and still didn't get them I need them soo bad so i could play wriosethley in his best f2p team.
Just a reminder use whoever you like please don’t feel discouraged to play lynette she is cool
I have C0 sucrose and C4 linette… In my opinion, Linette does decent damage and generates a lot of ER but only with constellations…. I dont know which one to fully develop yet… also thinking about Jean to use with Neuvillete
Lynette and sucrose are similar in strength for a neuvillete team because he scales of HP and both can’t really buff that. However, the supports could be buffed to deal slightly more off-field damage. If you want more reaction damage use sucrose but if you want just raw damage use Lynette (with higher burst taunting uptime)
Jean could also work as VV shredder but a shielder + sucrose could get the work done unless you are using two offensive supports (need healing from Jean)
If you don't have kazuha
You should sucrose asap
Cuz she is really the second best anemo buffer.
She could be better than kazuha(when she is c6)
In some cases.
At C6 Sucrose is definitely better but before that its kinda negligible depending on the team you wish to run, I prefer Lynette in my aggrevate team as she can uphold the VV shred long enough to keep Keqing on field and since I use Yaoyao and Oz (Fischl) I dont need to spend extra time on Lynette and can get more dps off that way.
Lastly its probably just a skill issue but my sucrose ult doesnt last long nor swirl let alone get infused by my teams so i find Lynette a lot more useable and Versatile than Sucrose.
@@silenthunder23t It is true that Lynette has higher burst uptime, which could allow some mistakes to not effect the rotations.
I would also like to point out that the cryo priority of Lynette’s Q infusion would allow melt teams to work better, but a downside is that Lynette has a harder time preforming double swirls with Xiangling which could be achieved with Guoba, but this is kinda niche so I’ll leave it there.
Lastly, Sucrose as an anemo catalyst which could facilitate a lot of reactions, which Lynette has a hard time achieving without C6.
Try it out in teams that don't do elemental reactions. Like mono pyro teams. Sucrose is better in a team that needs em, but if they don't, the more dmg from Lynnette might be better.
(Please take with a grain of salt)
That might be true, but just the fact that sucrose could use TTDS could make them equal in strength. I did not cover mono elemental teams because they are inferior in popularity than vape, melt and aggravate as they are used more commonly. Lastly, mono element teams might decrease Lynette’s value as she buffs ATK according to the number of elements in a team.
Lynette is still a valid option, but honestly sucrose is a top tier 4 star which other 4 stars show difficulty competing with the versatility of sucrose.
Maybe I’ll go do some calculations with a mono pyro team with Bennett and Xiangling to further prove my point as this is still my speculations.
@@12946 not mono mono per say. I meant more like Lyney/Bennet/Zhongli/Lynette. A team that doesn't use elemental reactions.
I guess that could work but I simply don’t see the reason to use Lynette over Sucrose except of personal preference as only one party member requires the ATK buff and TTDS simply is more powerful.
That being said, maybe the high scalings on Lynette’s skill might fill in the DPS loss from the 20-30% loss ATK buff to DPS unit
Same question
I wanna use ayaya freeze team which doesnt use reaction
@@jimmmi7655 I’m assuming you mean teams without amplifying reactions. Both sucrose and Lynette works, just remember that Lynette buffs the whole team while sucrose could use TTDS to buff Ayaka only. The buffing effect will depend on if you have sub-DPS like Kaeya/Rosaria, but for shield/heal characters you could use Sucrose. Shenhe is a unique case as she uses ATK. Therefore Lynette could balance out the buffs to Ayaka and Shenhe.
The problem with sucrose is that:
In alot of cases, she will hands down refuse to pick up elements.
If she doss pick up elements then it's ALWAYS the wrong one more than not.
Inconsistencies with her burst in general. And i mean where it will flat out not even pick up ANY ELEMENT till the very end and not beginning.
Will refuse to drag in alot of enemies more than 2 inches away from her E skills aoe.
Ttds is not worth the hassle to use nor makes up for how she feels like a beta test kazuha who's still unpolished. All ttds does is make tight rotations even more hellish...
Lynette, not only is she free but can get 2 E presses at c4 and ia a mini yelan for it.
Doesnt try to be a kazuha/venti/sucrose. Doesn't need to.
Her burst will INSTANTLY pick up elements the moment it touches the enemies.
Taunts the enemies during the entire duration of the skill.
Can have really damn good uptime with enough ER% but not as much if you do only tap E or hold it in some cases based on cons.
Want weapons? Freedom sworn is BETTER than TTDS and doesn't need to be a panic swap based on how quickly you switch out the character [god forbid you fuck up with ttds its even worse.] And guess who can use freedom sworn?
All sucrose does in the end is gice EM but all the Inconsistencies she has is NOT worth it at all. If you so badly need a sucrose, get kazuha or venti. I will much rather use them over sucrose. And tbh, lynette's priority is better.
It feels horrible when trying to use sucrose and sometimes kazuha because The priority is pyro > hydro > electro > cryo unlike lynette who is cryo > pyro > hydro > electro. Meaning she actually prioritizes freeze unlike others who put cryo dead last.
Tbh i find myself using venti and lynette more than kazuha and i don't plan to build my sucrose after constantly trying to give her a chance. In some teams i will use kazuha but in the end venti and lynette just feel better.
(I'm sorry I have terrible grammar)
Actually I kinda agree with the most part but I think for most players a C1 Sucrose (for 2 charges) is more accessible than C4 Lynette, and that TTDS is a significantly less rare than a freedom sworn. Also, a lot of Sucrose's advantage over Lynette comes from the easy access to applying anemo to swirl thanks to her being a catalyst character, therefore able to drive reactions on field in some teams such as taser and aggravate. Also, as transformative reaction teams (bloom/hyperbloom/burgeon) being the new meta, which is also easily accessible by all players, even relatively newer ones. The EM buff on sucrose is then significantly more useful than Lynette's attack buff as for 99% of players its the hyperbloom/whatever reaction dealing the most damage.
Also, as there is an increasing trend of the number of boss characters in the harder floors, the grouping effect is often negligible and the buffs is where the value of Sucrose truly shines, which the whole point is to get the most out of f2p-friendly weapons/constellations choices.
However, I would have to agree on Lynette being better on freeze teams or mono elemental teams as basically no one could utilize the EM buff more >90% of the cases and having more room for error, also her longer Q uptime is also a contributing factor if anyone wants to consider her.
Lynete na c6 é muito forte! 😎👏👏👏
Man i want sucrose soo bad.
I really need both her and Bennet
Iam now ar 49 and still didn't get them
I need them soo bad so i could play wriosethley in his best f2p team.
I guess Lynette or another cryo battery still works, but still I wish you luck on getting your sucrose soon
Dude i am at AR 56 still no sucrose 😂
In wriothesley's team just use Lynette. She prioritizes cryo where as other anemo prioritize cryo LAST
Dude compared off field sub dps with a literal full support😂
Eh I’d say both have similar usages and that’s why I compared them
@@12946 I see, you don't know shit then😂
Then would you enlighten me on why the comparison is inappropiate?
@@12946 it's literally in my comment, read
@@QQQQ51111 I meant what comparison I should do instead of Sucrose and Lynette
Lynette can take u travel around teyvat faster 😆 so yeah, Lynette i choose u
I guess I did forget to include their exploration value, yea I guess that’s a point to Lynette