I think its important to shout out to Maurice who was already pretty damn smart before being made "smart". No wonder he becomes the Wiseman of the apes.
Surprising since orangutans are less intelligent than chimps and gorillas. Though keeping in line with the original movie where orangutans were at the top of the ape hierarchy, it made sense.
@@igorivanov299this is not true, especially with gorillas who are typically seen as one of the least intelligent of the “great apes” (including man). Empirically, orangutans are the smartest of the non human apes, showing aptitude for mimicry, problem solving, and critical thinking.
It really bothers me that scientist was exposed and never told anyone or even quarantined. And wasn’t even smart enough to say anything when he literally sneezed blood on someone.
While true it was stupid, I would argue that's kind of the point. The corporation that wanted this "miracle cure" didn't care how things were handled, they only wanted results. And as we've seen with the COVID pandemic, placing people under quarantine "gives off a bad image".
Wasnt he a chimp handler. I think he was Just there to control the ape. It would explain why he was not handling it properly. However i dont think he should have been so close to such an unknown virus
This is literally how Covid-19 was inflicted on the world; scientists doing dangerous/ignorant things, on the cheap, with minimal security controls. Yes it is very stupid, but unfortunately accurate.
Regarding Malcolm and the other humans taking Carver back into ape territory in spite of him being a loose cannon, this is addressed via dialogue between him and Ellie: she states they can’t bring Carver because he’s too dangerous, and he says that he used to work on the dam pre-apocalypse, so he has special knowledge that’s crucial to them getting it up and running.
And yet when he gets to the dam he sits around and does f#*k all while Malcom is in the middle of two untrusting species. Carver was probably the just janitor at the hydroelectric plant, but I don’t care if Carver was on the team of engineers that built the dam, he shouldn’t have come.
@@richborn6700 How is giving a character a reason to be where they are during the movie bad writing? That’s pretty much the first step of adding any character to any story. I guess they should’ve taken their pick of the thousands of other hydroelectric dam technicians in the colony? And since beggars can be choosers apparently, only the dam workers that don’t hate the apes that supposedly caused the near extinction of humanity.
Now I’m just imagining a lobster speaking in Morse code with its claws watching other lobsters being cooked and saying, “why are we still here? Just to suffer?”
I thought it was awesome how they FINALLY explained how humans regressed into primitive nonspeaking cavemen. The original movies never went into detail about many events that caused this regression to happen.
@@xyoungdipsetx A mutated engineered virus that affected the human brain and cognitive reasoning. People could no longer speak normally and were running around like primitive cavemen living on instinct rather than logic and reason.
@Joseph evolution of the Simian flu. Basically, just think Wuhan lab leak, but with chimpanzees and cinematic action scenes. Just watch the movies. They're all great. Best movies in the franchise since the classic original with Charleton Heston (which you should also see if you haven't).
I don't like that understanding of it. Larger brains make humans less able to comprehend and interact with other humans, because we are dependent on having relatively similar brains in order to communicate. This has no baring on intelligence, which is nearly impossible to measure, because it gets obscured by our ability to share information, which is somewhat hampered when we cannot communicate as well with others.
Actually, that arrow hit Caesar's side and penetrated his lung. Yes, the arrow didn't kill him, but the lung collapsed, which made it extremely difficult, and painful, to breathe.
and kevlar vests are shit at stopping arrows and knives and spears, they stop bullets and shrapnel and nothing else, if you use different fibers or add in various metal or ceramic plates then it can stop both and both far better.
@@amomor9928 actually the opposite, he's saying that a bullet has more penetrating force than an arrow but an arrow has more concussive force, and that stopping concussive force stops both but stopping penetrating force only stops bullets.
I remember reading Micheal Crichton's Jurassic Park, Where one of the characters, Malcolm I think, explains how humans are born, in a sense, prematurely. As so many other mammals are up and about moving and engaging with the world in the first few days of life, but humans take years. And the reason was the size of our brains, necessitated larger skulls, which would get caught in the birth canal and kill both mother and child. So the natural adaptation was premature birth, and then caring for the infant over the course of years until they developed the same abilities as other mammals have almost right out the gate.
@@erikas3798yeah, i usually wait a bit to hear if people talk about it being great for a longer period of time. Just watched gaurdians of the galaxy three today, and it was really good. When they relised the trailer i thought it was going to be bad like the new thor movie was, but i kept hearing good things about it.
i would argue that the ALZ 113-2 doesn't effect the emotional part of the brain since the little girl was visibly crying when Luca (the gorilla) died. I thought that was an interesting touch too since it shows that the capacity to feel is still there, they just lose higher intelligence.
The ALZ-113-2 only infected her speech as she strains of her inability to speak, while it didn't caused the stuttering, confusion and mumbling, and with the hissing rasping of other human' animalistic states. It didn't affected her intelligence.
@@babamuhammedalijames9201 its impressive how the alz 113 became the living prison and hell of humans because it basically made them devolve in 1 generation aware of it and incapable of anything to stop it trapped inside their once greatest strength
The body armor is probably for morale. An unarmed man would cower in fear if he felt he had no protection. Having body armor makes soldiers feel safer and that actually increases their overall performance by a significant amount. This is true in real life and multiple times in history.
Kevlar stops bullets, it does not stop knives, arrows, or spears. Kevlar isn't even really used for body armor anymore because it sucks and there are far better alternatives now. However most modern level IV or V armor is layers of fiber and either ceramic or steel plates that can stop knives and bullets / shrapnel. There is a new kind of armor being developed that can stop .50 cal sniper bullets because it uses thick plastic plates that basically melt from friction and absorb the bullet slowing it.
@@gkmginger56 why do you think germany lost and there hasnt been a true large scale war since, Hitler lied and indoctrinated the german people after ww1 because they were looking for someone to save them and their failing nation so he convinced them of that,they fought good and hard until they started to realise what they were doing and the rest of the world began fighting for their homes, advanced technology and things like that do help in warfare obviously but at the end of the day its a job,if youre makin food for people youll never know to eat youll do it just to do it but if youre making food for your family to eat youre going to put your heart and soul into "just your job" ya feel
I'm surprised that Caesar didn't choose to keep a much closer eye on Koba, given he's being the most hostile towards the humans. Shouldn't the apes be keeping tabs on where he's going at all times?
@@KvngLeroy1 I never understood why didn't they just bomb the fuck out of the forest or use some kind of gas to kill the apes. They knew where they were, why would they allow them to just sit there for years?
@@zedoplantao some elephants are being born without tusks because people were hunting them for said tusks to make chess boards, piano keys, ect out of ivory to the point that it's illegal, and to the shock of nobody that wont stop people from doing that anyways.
The throat structure may not allow for exact vocalization but the "no" scream would have been possible. People have taught many types of animals to mimic human sounds.
So the problem with the first virus was that the dad’s immune system adapted to it I wonder if giving a person immune suppressants would help keep this from happening.
It would probably work but there is a significant problem. The fact that his immune system overcoming the ALZ and his issues returning means that the ALZ isn't a cure and just suppresses it. That means that he would have to take immune suppressants for the rest of his life. Yes, there are issues that people have where that is the treatment but it almost always leaves them more susceptible to even simple diseases. Given the age group that the ALZ would be for, a weak immune system would be really bad. Basically trading one problem for another.
Well, you are forgetting that the progressive degradation was much more devastating when the virus did become eradicated. So, either way, the disease was going to outpace the regeneration from the virus.
Just thinking how it would had been different if James Franco was a different race aka dot indian scientist raised the monkey or feather indian did or soviet or German or Nigerian. Could definitely see a bunch of dancing monke and look at me everything suks and dancing won’t solve anything but it is a movie so group dancing now if bollywood made it or extra languages, a inflated sense of self and a demand for monkebraum if German did, or extra knowledge of the classics, physically fitter if Soviets did and desire to absorb the other monke under his leadership. Just interesting character tropes that could apply to our monke protag and would make for a vastly different trilogy. Just like red son and superman and how vastly different the character would had been had he landed in saxony Bavaria or Austria in say 1920.
When I watched the Dawn movie I was like "man those scientists were stupid". Now in 2021 I think "man they were on the spot when they wrote how those scientists will act"
Yeah. Fauci had a lab In a semi rural area in the USA had a minor leak scare gov tried to end that shit but decided that they just wanted it done somewhere else and just randomly chose a huge city In China. Cause where's a better place for a bio lab where if there's a leak it could cause major issues but smack dab In the middle of a huge city.
The gorilla is a definitely questionable, but orangutans weigh around 300lbs on average, which isn't great for most horses, but some can do it no problem and even average sized horses can support it - it's just not good for their spine. Or rather, it is worse for their spine than an average person sitting on it already is.
Can we please acknowledge how all of this would have been at least somewhat preventable if Gensys followed standard lab procedures and quarantined Franklin or if Franklin had any damn sense or integrity and quarantine himself it genuinely pissed me off when I saw that in the movie lol
Really surprised no one in the series thought to mention that humans ARE apes. Literally chimps are more closely related to humans than they are gorillas. Also surprised Roanoke didn't mention this and how weird the virus was for just selecting non-human apes.
the virus likely only worked for non-human apes because of their better immune system. if i recall right, there is a difference in total # of chromosomes between humans and other apes though, so that might have played some small part? We have like one more or one less then they do. i agree on the "humans are apes" thing. I always thought that if i were in that world, I'd try to make that argument that humans are the 5th ape and try to get at least a small population of humans living alongside Ceaser's group. Even if it's just in the diminished state, Nova (the little girl) seemed intelligent enough once she was able to figure out sign language, and most of the other apes communicate through that anyways. Don't see why Humans couldn't have a place alongside them, even if it's at the bottom of the totem pole.
@@TamTroll they could've dont that, and they explored that with the doctors group un the second movie(minus that one guy) its just that, as the movies and the middle part of this video suggest: humans kind of suck. We cant figure out living peacefully with other slightly different humans let alone creature's that are faster stronger and smarter than us.
@Marcus North ... what? i... have no idea what the hell you're talking about. Humans have 46 chromosomes. Chimps, Bonobos, Gorillas, and Orangutans have 48. That's a scientific fact. i was just saying that might (Emphasis on MIGHT) play a factor in why the virus affects non-human apes positively while affecting humans positively. but it's also possible it's entirely unrelated. not... entirely sure what you're talking about.
@@Getwright- Humans in general yea, but there are plenty of individuals who would likely be willing, particularly if they were hit by the mutated virus. A lot of us live peacefully with dogs and cats. it's the same kind of relationship, just inverted.
Look, once biological immortality is reached, after a few thousand years people will get bored as fuck unless FTL and Sci Fi style aliens are real and there is a reason for biological people to do basically anything at all. Likely we will all end up eventually retiring either integrating machines to become non biological life and actually be useful in a meaningful way beyond the fake ""jobs"" you give to kids wanting to help. or more commonly people will probably spend decades living out potentially entire lifetimes in some kind of VR simulation, it could be generated and the story written in real time and all of the NPCs ran by whatever giant AI is running society at that point which would both make them sapient real people but also not basically slaves unknowingly created to live out a lie for one persons enjoyment. For an example with an established story you could play the mass effect games but in a simulation so real you can't tell it's a simulation unless you know already, the story could be based off of the current games but again you have a god like AI to run everything so you can do whatever you want and all of the characters react like real people and every single little choice has an impact because again an AI is writing the story as you play based on what you do. And an interesting concept is that maybe people would start something and then instead of playing it as a very immersive game they just have their memories blocked off or altered so they don't know that it isn't real and they would be playing the game as if it were real, that seems horrifying now both in losing parts of your memory and also in doing the terrifying things we see in games and shows and books for real thinking it's real, but after living the same amount of time as anatomically modern humans have existed today, twice, you might think that that would be way better than doing no meaningful work because some AI runs everything and is so beyond your comprehension in intelligence and processing power that it is basically a god, hard to compete with the resume that AI would have. Basically the AI would keep us around like pets or your senile great grandparents in a retirement home or maybe like a baby that chews on its feet and eats grass and puts legos in its nose. And we would love it.
@@atashgallagher5139 I like the essay, my guy. I can see how that could be a path humanity goes down in future evolutions but I was just posting a meme from Warhammer 40k
Ever since i understood the weakness in my flesh, it disgusted me. I craved the certainty and reliability of steel. There is no truth in flesh, only betrayal. There is no strength in flesh, only weakness. There is no constancy in flesh, only decay. There is no certainty in flesh but death. -Credo Omnissiah
I think the parrot you're referring to is Alex the African grey (RIP) who looked in the mirror and asked, "What color?" That's how he learned the color grey. He knew all his colors, could count up to 8 and understood the following concepts: size difference; color difference, same and different; material something is made from, etc. He even made up his own words, using concepts he understood. He knew what cork was. He knew what a nut was. When he was shown an almond in the shell, he dubbed it a "cork nut." He knew what a banana was. He knew what a cherry was. When presented with an apple, he decided it was a cross between the two and called it a "banerry." He knew what bread was. He knew what "yummy" meant. When he got a piece a cake, he called it "yummy bread." There are more examples of this, but those are the ones I'm fairly certain of.
My parrot...... -If I start to undress in the bathroom, she flies up and start to draw the shower curtain in place. - If I tell her the word "car" she marches to the box were her harness is stored, so I can put it on her. -calls both me and my husband by our names. And much, much more.
as I was watching this I started wondering how a random youtuber was so knowledgeable and accurate in immunology When u mentioned you work at a lab it all made sense. keep up the great content, it's nice to see real science used to explain interesting fiction
The thing is... he is wrong about the immune system of apes. In a lot of cases, the Human immune system is actually stronger than that of apes. This has to do with our social live and close proximity to each other in cities. HIV is an exception because apes have adapted to it, but look at some other virus like Ebola or SARS, we can obseve a much higher lethality in apes than humans. Ebola has a near 100% lethality in gorillas while in humans it is around 20-50%.
I believe it *is* meant to be a prequel to the original film. The reference to the rocket is more likely a reference to the orginal astronaut crew. The remake has a totally different cause for the ape evolution.
In the original movies dogs and cats died out so humans started keeping apes as pets. They wanted smarter and smarter apes so eventually the apes got smart enough to resent their position in life. An uprising was started, nuclear war happened and the humans spend the next few decades if not centuries dunking on the apes with modern weapons until radiation damage took its toll and subsequent generations were born mute and dim witted, giving the apes the edge they needed to win.
Roanoke Gaming is legit like one of the best RUclips creators living today. This is like a full year later lol but this channel is among a relatively few handful of people who make longer form stuff that I somehow find super comforting and relaxing. It's really not often to find something like that. I am grateful that this channel exists.
@@Ekdrink I feel like you're not very intelligent. Please, show us on the doll, where did I say anything about the complexity or level of advancement regarding his scientific analysis? Why some people are sooo eager to prove to strangers how bad they are at reading comprehension, I will never know. Do you have some form of shame kink?
I mean, they DO explain why they kept Carver in the group, because he was a former dam worker/engineer, so he's the guy they needed to actually run the dam (ha) thing once they got it back on.
If you're curious, kevlar is actually fairly easy to pierce worth a knife or spear. It's literally only built you tangle bullets and stop them from penetrating the soldiers body.
@@apotatoinasack4948 It was designed for pin point, high kinetic energy. The first "body armor" of modern warfare was nothing more than a heavy flak vest that could only prevent flak and explosive shrapnel. And even today's armor has certain limits. There are several levels of protection too. Level I's are practically for small pistol calibers, and then Level IV and V is rated for 5.56 tungsten tip and 7.62 and certain other calibers. Then its a decision between steel plates (which are thinner, but heavier), or ceramic plating (which is lighter, but far more thick).
there's something truly timeless about planet of the apes. I can't think of many other franchises that have gone on this long with consitently entertaining results. (Sure some of the movies aren't cinematic masterpieces but even the worst movie can be a fun watch)
28:01 I mean, how do we know that’s her dad? He could have kidnapped her. Even if it is her dad, her reaction to Luka’s death makes me think that he wasn’t a good one
Yeah what if he was abusive due to her reduced intelligence from the mutation? Also dude forgot Nova learnt how to use sign language so they aren't completely dumb
From what I remember, Carver was basically the ONLY guy with the knowledge of how to navigate the dam. While the rest of the team knew how to fix the dam, Carver knew what was where which is rather important when you're on a time limit.
THANK YOU for pointing this out. It kinda feels like he didnt really watch this movie, just kinda went thru it for the video. Because he also mispronounces Gary Oldmans character's name every single time in this video.
@@stormjin2242 I mean you're telling me that no body can find a local map??? no geographic surveys? Isn't there normally a map of the area at forests and such? like just go to any highschool geography classroom and you should be able to find a bunch of maps. Crack open a few cars and you might find some maps. I don't buy that this dude who is constantly causing issues and is obviously a risk is the sole person on earth who knows where this dam is. Hell, I'd rather stumble around the forest aimlessly looking for the dam then risk having Carver in my group
Interesting that the little girl had no symptoms, even though she was traveling with Ceasar for so long, as we see with the Colonel, he was capable of spreading the virus.
She probably was a carrier of the disease but not showing fatal symptoms. For example, she was mute which was most likely the virus attacking the portion of the brain that holds speech. Almost like having a cough from a disease that kills some people with weaker systems.
@@MuscleBound_withDre The mutated virus didn't kill people, it only made them mute and regress mentally. It was the Colonel killing the infected humans
::Look at skip time stamp:: OOF! This is a girthy one! :: snuggles into chair happily to watch it all:: I love these breakdowns Roanoke, keep em coming!!
As mentioned in the video, 113-2 was slowly making humans dumber. And considering they were in such a large group, infection rates increased, decreasing the collective intelligence of the military.
I like the theory that the ones attacking the fort are all already infected. If so, that means they are all mute, and possibly that is the best strategy they can come up with without being able to talk to each other. Also its likely that at this point they aren't the 'professional' military, but a militia that inherited the equipment but is likely largely made up of post-virus recruits. So their competency was likely suspect even before the virus took hold.
@@RoanokeGaming yup it's sad it ended in three films I wanted to to continue in a comic book or novel or tv series format because it has plenty of potential
I'm watching this while shampooing 20 years of mouse poop and unspeakables out of the floor of a limousine... Life's been better, But this sure helps 😂 Update now that I've finished the vid.... Definitely gonna die from this
I figured Ceasar died from the arrow because he was older and they didn't have a doctor to remove the arrowhead, clean, disinfect and close the wound like they did when he was shot. Plus arrowheads are NASTY, they can break off and stay in the body, causing more damage. He likely passed from a mix of severe internal bleeding, age and exhaustion.
I'm pretty sure that it's standard practice to leave bullets inside of a person if trying to get it out would potentially cause more damage than leaving it in.
@@insertname3977 only if they can't or won't f you up more trying to remove than leaving it there... Also bullets are pretty different from a arrow's head.
@@jaymthesn5981especially if the arrowhead isn't sterile prior to inflicting a wound. Also im sure the material of the arrowhead would determine how quickly it could kill him
23:33 It’s funny, but arrows are actually a fairly reliable way to pierce through some types of Kevlar. Consider that non-hard Kevlar body armor can’t exactly withstand cutting damage, hence why even SWAT members can get stabbed if they’re taken by surprise. Where bullets typically have a piercing impact, arrowheads actually cause cutting AND piercing types of impact. Unless it’s hard plated armor or some kind of juggernaut suit, even your average modern tactical soldier can get slain by an arrow through the chest.
@@Zanelander true, in some cases. But the standard plates used by the army now is ceramic plates. Which can do a better job at protecting from internal damage. But ceramic plates are brittle so a arrow could pierce it. Especially if it’s a pretty heavy duty bow
Pretty sure these are plate carriers with ballistic PLATES. You don't stab through ballistic plates. And law enforcement uses vests with protection against both edged and ballistic threats and the vast majority of the vests on the market are exactly that.
@@pepebeezon772 it could be. But the movie never stated otherwise. But you’re not wrong. There are plates that protect against things like knives but a lot also plates do not. Plus, if you consider how apes are much stronger than humans on average, I can imagine those bows are much stronger than regular bows
It is sad to see what happened to humanity in this series, especially as we see the snippets of humans in the trailer for kingdom, personally it never sat well with me that humans would lose everything, even in the context of this series. Our intelligence is the only thing propping us up around the world, without it at best we would be naked endurance hunters in equatorial regions, being unable to survive at higher latitudes without the capacity to make fire or clothing. In order for humans to survive within the context of the apes dominion over the world we would still need the ability to use tools and communicate, enough if its just enough to make clothing and spears and communicate through grunts to hunt animals for food. So our existence would still force a base level of intelligence out of us. Personally my thoughts are that generations of living like this would force not only the human body and immune system to evolve and become strong enough to combat the Virus but the base level of intelligence humans would need to survive would increase, especially after apes begin hunting us for animal labor and to cull the population. Taken to its logical conclusion, the ALZ 113 would evolve into a more communicable but less deadly virus over generations, combined with a human body that must become stronger to endure everything the world throws at it my thought is that in the far future humans would regain their intelligence and it would be a repeat of what happened between Homo Sapians and Neanderthals. Humans would outbreed Apes and compete over resources, we don't even have to win in strength, we just have to weaken apes in every battle, then reclaim our position as dominant species, and without modern morality getting in the way genocide against apes is on the table. In conclusion Humanity First
I was hoping you'd mention how ape bodies aren't proportionally built for walking on two legs, riding horses or throwing overhanded. That was something that always bothered me watching the scenes where the apes over power people using such things.
They can walk on two legs fine going by the sheer amount of videos exist filming wild and captive apes strolling around casually. Albeit it does seem less graceful and more energy intensive than the way we walk. Which is due to as you said, the basic structural differences between us. I have seen a video of an orang-utan overhand tossing a small object to a person. But it seemed much like how a 2 year old child would throw something. More of an ungainly, slow toss than a fast, sharp, fluid movement that would be required for throwing a spear to any effect. So they seem to be able to achieve many of the same basic fine motor functions as us, just nowhere near as efficiently or effectively.
@@dominicpersaud1155 yes, because as I said, they're much less efficient than us. Its very energy intensive for them to keep it up. I never said they did it all the time, I just said that they were capable of it.
The sad thing about this is that some genius out there can literally recreate something similar to this and we could end up getting rekt by fish walking on land lmao
All we can create are endless billions of tonnes of plastic waste, chemicals, toxins, radioactive waste (fukushima) and swamping the seas and Oceans. In a few decades, there will be more plastic than marine life in the oceans. The current viral scaremongering is adding many millions more plastic and other waste (Per day) into the waters. The fkincg govns,, media and movie studios are directing attention away from the REAL devastation to the world and eventually people.!! Humans wont mutate and be wiped out due to viruses but will get sick, suffer and die of cancer et al from environmental poisoning. Very beneficial for big pharma, "healthcare" industries.
Tom Felton/Malfoy is just too damn good at being the bad guy. It takes a really good actor to be able to show that kind of loathing when they are actually a delightful person.
The scene where Will is cradling baby Ceasar in the bathroom conveys very interesting emotions to me, like he's a single mother trying to care for her sick child, which is essentially what is happening with leagues more complexity, him being neither a mother nor a woman and the baby being a kidnapped enhanced ape orphan, loved the video though!
This was a surprisingly awesome trilogy, I knew about it but never watched it until 2 years ago. Such an awesome franchise, and I went in blind so it was cool not knowing what was gonna happen, can't recommend it enough 🤩
These new planet of the apes movies are amazing, it just goes to show that reboots can work and I thought it was clever how in the storytelling department they explain that the virus was responsible for humans losing their ability to speak and the colonel getting his comeuppance by being infected by the virus, brilliant stuff!
If only he had burned the doll instead of touching it. Seriously you can tag the infected in your ranks but won’t cleanse things of unknown origin and grab and keep them instead.
The way I see it ALZ wouldn't work in general because neuroplasticity is amazing but not amazing enough to work at that speed. The amyloid would still be build up dangerously creating the Alzheimer's symptoms. It might allow the creation of new skills and memories during that period but you'd effectively lose everything you had before being treated.
I mean the bullet missed his vitals while the arrow didn't, probably hitting his lung, liver or kidney. its not like he got dropped immediately he slowly bled out by internal injuries having already been made and kept weak and injured in the compound.
Love these breakdowns , I also love how I’m able to suspend my disbelief to a point but some movies try to abuse that and it doesn’t work these films on the other hand (especially the Matt Reeves films) do a really great job making this world believable
I have a theory about the speaking thing. I think that the ALZ-113 also gave them more human adaptations/ attributes. We see them walking bipedal and, if this is in the same timeline as the original planet of the apes, this would explain their more humanoid appearance.
@@ghartuckt663 not just most, all apes can walk bipedally short term :) including gibbons, which are apes but not great apes (like us and chimps and gorillas etc.)
Body armor is usually meant to stop bullets, but things like sharp blades and knives can still get through do to how tight the weave is. Looser weaves for knives exist but putting two together can make it extranet heavy. At least, that is how I know it to be.
@@jeramysteve3394 yeah but this is a rag tag break away group with seemingly no access to equipment outside of that one base. So many of them might not have had proper equipment, plus a chimp is 5 to ten time stronger than a man, so when they throw a spear its coming with a lot of force
@@Getwright- Funny enough there is no other animal that can throw anywhere near as well as humans. An ape spear would be much less forceful than a human one.
Ya know i think it would be cool if maybe in the next one they intrduce a human sub sepisc that looks like a monster and acts feral but then is reviled that it just evold a way to resit the viris and also hunts humans
Kevlar stops bullets, it does not stop knives, arrows, or spears. Kevlar isn't even really used for body armor anymore because it sucks and there are far better alternatives now. However most modern level IV or V armor is layers of fiber and either ceramic or steel plates that can stop knives and bullets / shrapnel. There is a new kind of armor being developed that can stop .50 cal sniper bullets because it uses thick plastic plates that basically melt from friction and absorb the bullet slowing it.
I think body armor is still pretty good for protection. Chances are, the average person isn't going to be doing head shots...they are probably going to be shooting at the upper torso, since it's a bigger target. There's always the off-chance of someone shooting you in the head, but I would say you have a better survivability rate with body armor, as opposed to no body armor.
@@atashgallagher5139 really 50.cal? Damn I’d assume that even if you managed to slow the bullet and stop penetration the sheer impact would liquify your insides
There is actually a dog on RUclips that has been using those little button things to put together words and sentences. She has asked "Why Bunny dog?" :)
I dont understand how this ended up in my recommendeds but I sure am glad I clicked on it. I feel like I learned a lot from this video and being a self proclaimed writer, loved learning in depth lore of this universe. Life is truly fragile
In the strict sense of the word, which is often used to describe a lack of abstract, logical human reasoning, yes, Kanzi and other bonobos would be considered irrational. However, it is important to note that they demonstrate remarkable intelligence and advanced cognitive abilities within their own context and capabilities. They have the ability to learn, communicate in complex ways, and solve problems, which highlights the diversity of forms of intelligence in the animal kingdom. The term "irrational" often does not fully capture the range of cognitive abilities that bonobos and other nonhuman primates possess.
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I, Cato Sicarius disapprove because it does not show the gloriousness of humanity which includes I, Cato Sicarius who is the Knight-Champion of Macragge and the wisdom of The Emperor. These movies need to be remade with I, Cato Sicarius as the main character and leading Humanity into a bright and prosperous future!
When you say bigger brain is bad. I think that only applies to thinking parts. If you had a more complex visual centre to accommodate more advanced eyes for example I don’t think it would negatively impact overall intelligence
The ape theory is actually seen today in modern apes. There is a women who spent years tracking and writing down the story of a tribe of apes. She followed a violent and war faring tribe dominated by a violent leader. The apes gained territory very fast killing other tribes and taking the females of the defeated tribes. It is a very fascinating real life story that almost has a Rome esc type of feeling, I can't remember the womens name or the name of her study's but I recommend trying to find it because it shows a modern representation of how we potentially evolved from an outside view.
I know this is a comment from a year ago, but were you referring to Jane Goodall and the Gombe Chimpanzee War? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gombe_Chimpanzee_War
@@roccotaco1843 What would be cool would be seeing different ape cultures interacting, obviously we know Caesar and his apes are the most advanced and intelligent, but the ALZ that was spread around the world by humans also would make all apes intelligent when they were exposed to it. So you'd have Apes all around the world becoming intelligent over night and establishing societies, I think the African chimps would give Caesars apes the hardest time to conquer just because they're naturally so militaristic and violent
Thanks for watching guys! So cue the thousands of comments, I meant "Relieve of Command" Not "Alleviate" lmao Hope yall have a good weekend!
i cant believe i am this early
How times have changed. We love our monke brethren and would never disrespect them.
Reject society return to monke
Alleve of Command
Yeah boi, congratulations on 500k!
I think its important to shout out to Maurice who was already pretty damn smart before being made "smart". No wonder he becomes the Wiseman of the apes.
Surprising since orangutans are less intelligent than chimps and gorillas.
Though keeping in line with the original movie where orangutans were at the top of the ape hierarchy, it made sense.
Maurice is also best waifu of the trilogy
@@igorivanov299 actually, Orangutans are propably the smartest apes after humans
@@igorivanov299this is not true, especially with gorillas who are typically seen as one of the least intelligent of the “great apes” (including man). Empirically, orangutans are the smartest of the non human apes, showing aptitude for mimicry, problem solving, and critical thinking.
Makes you wonder whether Maurice was capable of talking when his intellect was super charged or if he simply decided not to talk.
It really bothers me that scientist was exposed and never told anyone or even quarantined. And wasn’t even smart enough to say anything when he literally sneezed blood on someone.
While true it was stupid, I would argue that's kind of the point. The corporation that wanted this "miracle cure" didn't care how things were handled, they only wanted results. And as we've seen with the COVID pandemic, placing people under quarantine "gives off a bad image".
@@J-manli only Hollywood corporation
@@keloid123 ehh after recent events i’ll hold my tongue
Wasnt he a chimp handler. I think he was Just there to control the ape. It would explain why he was not handling it properly. However i dont think he should have been so close to such an unknown virus
This is literally how Covid-19 was inflicted on the world; scientists doing dangerous/ignorant things, on the cheap, with minimal security controls. Yes it is very stupid, but unfortunately accurate.
Regarding Malcolm and the other humans taking Carver back into ape territory in spite of him being a loose cannon, this is addressed via dialogue between him and Ellie: she states they can’t bring Carver because he’s too dangerous, and he says that he used to work on the dam pre-apocalypse, so he has special knowledge that’s crucial to them getting it up and running.
so poor writing then?
@@richborn6700 ?
And yet when he gets to the dam he sits around and does f#*k all while Malcom is in the middle of two untrusting species. Carver was probably the just janitor at the hydroelectric plant, but I don’t care if Carver was on the team of engineers that built the dam, he shouldn’t have come.
@@richborn6700 How is giving a character a reason to be where they are during the movie bad writing? That’s pretty much the first step of adding any character to any story.
I guess they should’ve taken their pick of the thousands of other hydroelectric dam technicians in the colony? And since beggars can be choosers apparently, only the dam workers that don’t hate the apes that supposedly caused the near extinction of humanity.
@@richborn6700 looks like alz 113 is real judging by your reduced brain capacity
To clarifying, the Gray Parrot asked what color he was, which I believe was the first time an animal asked an existential question like that.
Now I’m just imagining a lobster speaking in Morse code with its claws watching other lobsters being cooked and saying, “why are we still here? Just to suffer?”
@@crimsondynamo615 It puts on the garlic butter to be moist!
@@Mate397 I get the funny
Did he get an answer? Please tell me they told him he was pink
@@Nerd-Power yes Alex got an answer. He learned he was grey after being told 6 times
52 minutes of Roanoke explaining revenge of monke? Can't say I have anything better than that planned.
Fr lmaooo
I have reported for pornography
If a monkey was ever smarter than me, I'll kill it
I'm just here for 52 minutes of Roanoke
“Revenge of monke”
I thought it was awesome how they FINALLY explained how humans regressed into primitive nonspeaking cavemen. The original movies never went into detail about many events that caused this regression to happen.
How did people regress?
@@xyoungdipsetx A mutated engineered virus that affected the human brain and cognitive reasoning. People could no longer speak normally and were running around like primitive cavemen living on instinct rather than logic and reason.
@Joseph evolution of the Simian flu. Basically, just think Wuhan lab leak, but with chimpanzees and cinematic action scenes. Just watch the movies. They're all great. Best movies in the franchise since the classic original with Charleton Heston (which you should also see if you haven't).
@@Tyler_W seen them all and loved them all except for the Marky Mark version, that movie was trash IMO.
The movies kinda gave us an alternative ending where humans and apes live together happily and statues can cry
"When the brain gets bigger, people actually regress intellect"
The scientists in this movie had really big brains
I see what you did there .Nice roast by the way.
I don't like that understanding of it. Larger brains make humans less able to comprehend and interact with other humans, because we are dependent on having relatively similar brains in order to communicate. This has no baring on intelligence, which is nearly impossible to measure, because it gets obscured by our ability to share information, which is somewhat hampered when we cannot communicate as well with others.
And don’t forget liberals. So open minded that there brains fell out
@@MegaNiQ He said, as grey matter trickled out of his ear.
@@MegaNiQ *their
Actually, that arrow hit Caesar's side and penetrated his lung. Yes, the arrow didn't kill him, but the lung collapsed, which made it extremely difficult, and painful, to breathe.
and kevlar vests are shit at stopping arrows and knives and spears, they stop bullets and shrapnel and nothing else, if you use different fibers or add in various metal or ceramic plates then it can stop both and both far better.
😂@@atashgallagher5139 exactly the vest stop conclusive force not penetrating force
@@goldendemise3165 so you are saying that arrow has more penetrating force than bullet?
@@amomor9928 actually the opposite, he's saying that a bullet has more penetrating force than an arrow but an arrow has more concussive force, and that stopping concussive force stops both but stopping penetrating force only stops bullets.
@@amomor9928 the bullet wound was prolly a flesh wound when Cesar got shot. I’m pretty sure it didn’t hit a major artery like the arrow did
I remember reading Micheal Crichton's Jurassic Park,
Where one of the characters, Malcolm I think, explains how humans are born, in a sense, prematurely. As so many other mammals are up and about moving and engaging with the world in the first few days of life, but humans take years. And the reason was the size of our brains, necessitated larger skulls, which would get caught in the birth canal and kill both mother and child. So the natural adaptation was premature birth, and then caring for the infant over the course of years until they developed the same abilities as other mammals have almost right out the gate.
The more advanced the brain the more energy and time it takes to mature
genius
i'll go tell this to my gang
"Bro how are you gonna take out a 500 pound Silverback with batons?"
😆 🤣
Put them in a rail gun?
@Captainzilla418 Gorilla would probably rip the guy in half before he could
@@KvngLeroy1 nope
@Captainzilla418 Gorillas have extremely dense muscles and bones, you probably need a beefier gun than a 7.62mm or .308
@@KvngLeroy1 nah look what happened to harambe
this is the alternate timeline where humans actually reject humanity and return to monke
Actually the reverse, human advances monke to human
@@gumbo821 and then the tool mutates and returns them to monke
so south chicago?
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@@dualityomk9854 BBBBUUUURRRRRNNNNNNNN
Who’s here after watching the trilogy and waiting to go see Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes ?
I'm so afraid it's gonna be bad like all the other movies which lengthens the franchise for money not for great story telling
@@erikas3798 I haven’t watched it yet plan on it this week I hope it’s good I’ve been staying away from reviews
@@erikas3798yeah, i usually wait a bit to hear if people talk about it being great for a longer period of time. Just watched gaurdians of the galaxy three today, and it was really good. When they relised the trailer i thought it was going to be bad like the new thor movie was, but i kept hearing good things about it.
So i saw it
@@erikas3798it’s amazing go watch it
"Bro, what is wrong with humanity in these movies?"
Everything. Let's be honest.
@sabina bajracharaya I mean humanity has almost wiped out many populations and ended some as well, not just wolves
I see you in literally so many comment sections
@sabina bajracharaya "spices"
@sabina bajracharaya 4. Killing their own species by world wars.
5. Karens
6.fortnite kids
7.stans
@@emmalion1976 8. China
Video: Majority of timestamps taken up by "Proof Humans Suck."
Me: Yup
Also: CONGRATS ON HALF A MIL SON
@SubversiveMemes well who else is gonna say humanity sucks
@@thedoctorss69 The dolphins - they really hate us. Just wait until they ally with the aliens hiding behind the moon.
The conspiracy crowd is the worst of humanity
instead of being 'proof humans suck' the time stamp should be 'proof the writers of this movie suck'.
Why you would not survive the scps Euclid class ?
i would argue that the ALZ 113-2 doesn't effect the emotional part of the brain since the little girl was visibly crying when Luca (the gorilla) died.
I thought that was an interesting touch too since it shows that the capacity to feel is still there, they just lose higher intelligence.
The ALZ-113-2 only infected her speech as she strains of her inability to speak, while it didn't caused the stuttering, confusion and mumbling, and with the hissing rasping of other human' animalistic states. It didn't affected her intelligence.
@@babamuhammedalijames9201 its impressive how the alz 113 became the living prison and hell of humans because it basically made them devolve in 1 generation aware of it and incapable of anything to stop it
trapped inside their once greatest strength
An interesting thing about ALZ-112 is that the number is a reference to the original Planet of the Apes which has a runtime of 112 minutes.
Interesting Easter eggs .
Ooooooooo
That's pretty awesome
The body armor is probably for morale. An unarmed man would cower in fear if he felt he had no protection. Having body armor makes soldiers feel safer and that actually increases their overall performance by a significant amount. This is true in real life and multiple times in history.
Kevlar stops bullets, it does not stop knives, arrows, or spears. Kevlar isn't even really used for body armor anymore because it sucks and there are far better alternatives now. However most modern level IV or V armor is layers of fiber and either ceramic or steel plates that can stop knives and bullets / shrapnel. There is a new kind of armor being developed that can stop .50 cal sniper bullets because it uses thick plastic plates that basically melt from friction and absorb the bullet slowing it.
I see so war are fought by morale then. That makes sense
@@gkmginger56 why do you think germany lost and there hasnt been a true large scale war since, Hitler lied and indoctrinated the german people after ww1 because they were looking for someone to save them and their failing nation so he convinced them of that,they fought good and hard until they started to realise what they were doing and the rest of the world began fighting for their homes, advanced technology and things like that do help in warfare obviously but at the end of the day its a job,if youre makin food for people youll never know to eat youll do it just to do it but if youre making food for your family to eat youre going to put your heart and soul into "just your job" ya feel
It’s why we’ve never seen a naked war🤔?
@@zaddybanban3128 Celts. Celts went to battle/war in the nude fairly often.
I'm surprised that Caesar didn't choose to keep a much closer eye on Koba, given he's being the most hostile towards the humans. Shouldn't the apes be keeping tabs on where he's going at all times?
Ceaser was naive and believed Apes were inherently better (more moral) than humans.
Caesar didn't want to believe that a fellow ape could betray him.
@@nicholastaylor9687 and they were bros
They used batons so that the whole movie wouldnt be a 30 minutes long "monke gets smart but smart cant beat m4a1"
Considering how strong apes are, if Ceaser rushed him good enough he probably could easily take the gun from him.
@@KvngLeroy1 thats not how that works
@@elitemook4234 if Cesar rushed them and they missed or didn't hit him he would be fucked apes are twice as strong then humans
@@cookiecrumb1018 There's a whole lot more IF needed for him to win then to die. Most likely outcome is he gets shot to death.
@@KvngLeroy1 I never understood why didn't they just bomb the fuck out of the forest or use some kind of gas to kill the apes. They knew where they were, why would they allow them to just sit there for years?
"We almost annihilated the wolf population just for eating some kids..." LMAO
well if you think that is bad tigers are 2 steps away from becoming extinct because we want their fur
@@darraghclarke1096 Fair
@@zedoplantao some elephants are being born without tusks because people were hunting them for said tusks to make chess boards, piano keys, ect out of ivory to the point that it's illegal, and to the shock of nobody that wont stop people from doing that anyways.
The throat structure may not allow for exact vocalization but the "no" scream would have been possible. People have taught many types of animals to mimic human sounds.
No they just can’t control their vocal chords, put a human Brian into a chimp and they could speak
Ravens are well-known for that.
In conclusion:
*to avoid becoming monke, focus on immune system, not bigger brain*
ROBO brains
So the problem with the first virus was that the dad’s immune system adapted to it I wonder if giving a person immune suppressants would help keep this from happening.
It would probably work but there is a significant problem. The fact that his immune system overcoming the ALZ and his issues returning means that the ALZ isn't a cure and just suppresses it. That means that he would have to take immune suppressants for the rest of his life. Yes, there are issues that people have where that is the treatment but it almost always leaves them more susceptible to even simple diseases. Given the age group that the ALZ would be for, a weak immune system would be really bad. Basically trading one problem for another.
@@Blasted2Oblivion True, but the side effects from immunosuppressants are more manageable than the symptoms of late stage Alzheimer's.
@@pandapounce That is a very good point.
Well, you are forgetting that the progressive degradation was much more devastating when the virus did become eradicated. So, either way, the disease was going to outpace the regeneration from the virus.
@@Blasted2OblivionThat’s actually not bad, a lot of people would take it.
15:48 The reason they have to take Carver along is because he's the only one who can get the hydro dam going, as far as I remember anyway.
Don't they end up leaving him in the car and not letting him help anyways
@@FMJ1400yeah after they found d out he brought a gun after Caesar made them leave weapons out of the camp.
@@FMJ1400that was after they were mostly done
Will's dad, immediately upon meeting Caesar: "This hairy child is my grandson."
Just thinking how it would had been different if James Franco was a different race aka dot indian scientist raised the monkey or feather indian did or soviet or German or Nigerian. Could definitely see a bunch of dancing monke and look at me everything suks and dancing won’t solve anything but it is a movie so group dancing now if bollywood made it or extra languages, a inflated sense of self and a demand for monkebraum if German did, or extra knowledge of the classics, physically fitter if Soviets did and desire to absorb the other monke under his leadership. Just interesting character tropes that could apply to our monke protag and would make for a vastly different trilogy.
Just like red son and superman and how vastly different the character would had been had he landed in saxony Bavaria or Austria in say 1920.
@@GAndreC what
@@GAndreC is this some kind of code?
@@GAndreC is this some kind of code?
@@GAndreC wtf
When I watched the Dawn movie I was like "man those scientists were stupid". Now in 2021 I think "man they were on the spot when they wrote how those scientists will act"
As a person that is binging this trilogy a nice time after C-19 they were Perfect 11/10 in their depiction
Yeah. Fauci had a lab In a semi rural area in the USA had a minor leak scare gov tried to end that shit but decided that they just wanted it done somewhere else and just randomly chose a huge city In China. Cause where's a better place for a bio lab where if there's a leak it could cause major issues but smack dab In the middle of a huge city.
Simian flu could happen
How the hell are those horses holding up orangutans and gorillas
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Maybe they bred for bigger horses?
The gorilla is a definitely questionable, but orangutans weigh around 300lbs on average, which isn't great for most horses, but some can do it no problem and even average sized horses can support it - it's just not good for their spine. Or rather, it is worse for their spine than an average person sitting on it already is.
cause those are actually actors on them. Jk no, i always wonder the same thing every time i watch this movie 😂😂
Can’t wait to spend the next hour watching this
hope you enjoy it bro!
@@RoanokeGaming always do!
Ayo wtf this is an hour, I thought it was 15 mins..
Monke : Become Humans
Humans become monkes!
You've just describe evolution and life
Oo oo aa aa oo oo AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
the gun
-Connor 2038
Lmao
In bad monkey is golem
Can we please acknowledge how all of this would have been at least somewhat preventable if Gensys followed standard lab procedures and quarantined Franklin or if Franklin had any damn sense or integrity and quarantine himself it genuinely pissed me off when I saw that in the movie lol
"Homo Machinus."
"When I first understood the weakness of my flesh, it disgusted me."
- Some Coggy Boi.
Homo Mechanicus
Is that Kancolle I see?
_PRAISE THE OMNISSIAH!!_
"I craved for the certainty of the blessed machine."
Karl heisenberg
Really surprised no one in the series thought to mention that humans ARE apes.
Literally chimps are more closely related to humans than they are gorillas. Also surprised Roanoke didn't mention this and how weird the virus was for just selecting non-human apes.
the virus likely only worked for non-human apes because of their better immune system. if i recall right, there is a difference in total # of chromosomes between humans and other apes though, so that might have played some small part? We have like one more or one less then they do.
i agree on the "humans are apes" thing. I always thought that if i were in that world, I'd try to make that argument that humans are the 5th ape and try to get at least a small population of humans living alongside Ceaser's group. Even if it's just in the diminished state, Nova (the little girl) seemed intelligent enough once she was able to figure out sign language, and most of the other apes communicate through that anyways. Don't see why Humans couldn't have a place alongside them, even if it's at the bottom of the totem pole.
@@TamTroll they could've dont that, and they explored that with the doctors group un the second movie(minus that one guy) its just that, as the movies and the middle part of this video suggest: humans kind of suck. We cant figure out living peacefully with other slightly different humans let alone creature's that are faster stronger and smarter than us.
@Marcus North ... what? i... have no idea what the hell you're talking about.
Humans have 46 chromosomes. Chimps, Bonobos, Gorillas, and Orangutans have 48. That's a scientific fact.
i was just saying that might (Emphasis on MIGHT) play a factor in why the virus affects non-human apes positively while affecting humans positively. but it's also possible it's entirely unrelated.
not... entirely sure what you're talking about.
@@Getwright- Humans in general yea, but there are plenty of individuals who would likely be willing, particularly if they were hit by the mutated virus.
A lot of us live peacefully with dogs and cats. it's the same kind of relationship, just inverted.
@Marcus North ahh okay, sorry i must have misunderstood then.
So James Franco took out the human race?
Yea bro went from the hob goblin to killing the world with apes😂😂😂
He's a full out villain 😂
Koba did when they were administering the virus and he fought against them causing the hose to come loose and knocking off Franklin's mask.
What Roanoke said:
"Homocyborgus"
What I heard:
"The flesh is weak"
Get ready for synthetic evolution.
Look, once biological immortality is reached, after a few thousand years people will get bored as fuck unless FTL and Sci Fi style aliens are real and there is a reason for biological people to do basically anything at all. Likely we will all end up eventually retiring either integrating machines to become non biological life and actually be useful in a meaningful way beyond the fake ""jobs"" you give to kids wanting to help. or more commonly people will probably spend decades living out potentially entire lifetimes in some kind of VR simulation, it could be generated and the story written in real time and all of the NPCs ran by whatever giant AI is running society at that point which would both make them sapient real people but also not basically slaves unknowingly created to live out a lie for one persons enjoyment.
For an example with an established story you could play the mass effect games but in a simulation so real you can't tell it's a simulation unless you know already, the story could be based off of the current games but again you have a god like AI to run everything so you can do whatever you want and all of the characters react like real people and every single little choice has an impact because again an AI is writing the story as you play based on what you do.
And an interesting concept is that maybe people would start something and then instead of playing it as a very immersive game they just have their memories blocked off or altered so they don't know that it isn't real and they would be playing the game as if it were real, that seems horrifying now both in losing parts of your memory and also in doing the terrifying things we see in games and shows and books for real thinking it's real, but after living the same amount of time as anatomically modern humans have existed today, twice, you might think that that would be way better than doing no meaningful work because some AI runs everything and is so beyond your comprehension in intelligence and processing power that it is basically a god, hard to compete with the resume that AI would have.
Basically the AI would keep us around like pets or your senile great grandparents in a retirement home or maybe like a baby that chews on its feet and eats grass and puts legos in its nose. And we would love it.
@@atashgallagher5139 I like the essay, my guy. I can see how that could be a path humanity goes down in future evolutions but I was just posting a meme from Warhammer 40k
Ever since i understood the weakness in my flesh, it disgusted me. I craved the certainty and reliability of steel.
There is no truth in flesh, only betrayal.
There is no strength in flesh, only weakness.
There is no constancy in flesh, only decay.
There is no certainty in flesh but death.
-Credo Omnissiah
I heard "Glorious Evolution"
I think the parrot you're referring to is Alex the African grey (RIP) who looked in the mirror and asked, "What color?" That's how he learned the color grey. He knew all his colors, could count up to 8 and understood the following concepts: size difference; color difference, same and different; material something is made from, etc.
He even made up his own words, using concepts he understood. He knew what cork was. He knew what a nut was. When he was shown an almond in the shell, he dubbed it a "cork nut." He knew what a banana was. He knew what a cherry was. When presented with an apple, he decided it was a cross between the two and called it a "banerry." He knew what bread was. He knew what "yummy" meant. When he got a piece a cake, he called it "yummy bread." There are more examples of this, but those are the ones I'm fairly certain of.
awwwww
Alex's last words:
"You be good, I love you. See you tomorrow."
🥺
what a bunch of bullshit
My parrot......
-If I start to undress in the bathroom, she flies up and start to draw the shower curtain in place.
- If I tell her the word "car" she marches to the box were her harness is stored, so I can put it on her.
-calls both me and my husband by our names.
And much, much more.
half of this is bullshit
as I was watching this I started wondering how a random youtuber was so knowledgeable and accurate in immunology
When u mentioned you work at a lab it all made sense. keep up the great content, it's nice to see real science used to explain interesting fiction
The thing is... he is wrong about the immune system of apes. In a lot of cases, the Human immune system is actually stronger than that of apes. This has to do with our social live and close proximity to each other in cities. HIV is an exception because apes have adapted to it, but look at some other virus like Ebola or SARS, we can obseve a much higher lethality in apes than humans. Ebola has a near 100% lethality in gorillas while in humans it is around 20-50%.
Google exists. Literally anyone with the internet can learn every bit of knowledge in this video.
It's almost like he has other things going on
@@jbear3478commenting like an ass for no reason
I loved the Planet of the Apes trilogy. Andy Serkis did amazing as Caeser.
He really did.
We need another movie
Of course he did, he’s Andy Serkis
holy shit i thought his name was seizure the whole time
Can't wait for Kingdom of the planet of the Apes!
Personally, I like to think that this trilogy leads to the original Planet of The Apes movie. Not the reimagining by Tim Burton.
Probably the worst burton movei, mostly because its not like any burton movie.
Gotta head back to the classics!
I believe it *is* meant to be a prequel to the original film. The reference to the rocket is more likely a reference to the orginal astronaut crew. The remake has a totally different cause for the ape evolution.
In the original movies dogs and cats died out so humans started keeping apes as pets. They wanted smarter and smarter apes so eventually the apes got smart enough to resent their position in life. An uprising was started, nuclear war happened and the humans spend the next few decades if not centuries dunking on the apes with modern weapons until radiation damage took its toll and subsequent generations were born mute and dim witted, giving the apes the edge they needed to win.
@@elitemook4234 Yes, quite so, I suppose its indirectly related prequel then, to a messy timeline.
Roanoke Gaming is legit like one of the best RUclips creators living today.
This is like a full year later lol but this channel is among a relatively few handful of people who make longer form stuff that I somehow find super comforting and relaxing.
It's really not often to find something like that.
I am grateful that this channel exists.
I like him but jeez he’s not splitting the atom here, he just breaks media down scientifically lol
@@Ekdrink I feel like you're not very intelligent.
Please, show us on the doll, where did I say anything about the complexity or level of advancement regarding his scientific analysis?
Why some people are sooo eager to prove to strangers how bad they are at reading comprehension, I will never know.
Do you have some form of shame kink?
Yeah I would’ve deleted that too buddy
I listen to Roanoke more than music when I ride my motorcycle to work. Keeps me alert, if that makes sense.
I mean, they DO explain why they kept Carver in the group, because he was a former dam worker/engineer, so he's the guy they needed to actually run the dam (ha) thing once they got it back on.
If you're curious, kevlar is actually fairly easy to pierce worth a knife or spear. It's literally only built you tangle bullets and stop them from penetrating the soldiers body.
That is why Kevlar hasn't been the choice for body armor for over 20 years
I been lied to
I thought kevlar was a good armor
@@apotatoinasack4948 It was designed for pin point, high kinetic energy. The first "body armor" of modern warfare was nothing more than a heavy flak vest that could only prevent flak and explosive shrapnel. And even today's armor has certain limits.
There are several levels of protection too. Level I's are practically for small pistol calibers, and then Level IV and V is rated for 5.56 tungsten tip and 7.62 and certain other calibers. Then its a decision between steel plates (which are thinner, but heavier), or ceramic plating (which is lighter, but far more thick).
@@JohnDoe-wt9ek oh thanks for the explanation
there's something truly timeless about planet of the apes. I can't think of many other franchises that have gone on this long with consitently entertaining results. (Sure some of the movies aren't cinematic masterpieces but even the worst movie can be a fun watch)
I’m a simple man. I see Roanoke post a video. I click.
This was such a great movie series, a reboot for once finally worked
It was not a reboot but a prequel to the original trilogy....just like the Star Wars prequel trilogy
@@Tahokmusic it’s definitely a reboot, rewatch if you can the original trilogy
The godfather is a remake which essentially was a reboot.
I prefer heavy make up and costumes
28:01 I mean, how do we know that’s her dad? He could have kidnapped her. Even if it is her dad, her reaction to Luka’s death makes me think that he wasn’t a good one
Yeah what if he was abusive due to her reduced intelligence from the mutation? Also dude forgot Nova learnt how to use sign language so they aren't completely dumb
From what I remember, Carver was basically the ONLY guy with the knowledge of how to navigate the dam. While the rest of the team knew how to fix the dam, Carver knew what was where which is rather important when you're on a time limit.
THANK YOU for pointing this out. It kinda feels like he didnt really watch this movie, just kinda went thru it for the video. Because he also mispronounces Gary Oldmans character's name every single time in this video.
@@Prophet_-jq1lv Yeah he got a lot of simple things wrong.
yea, but he didnt have to go, he could have taught someone else and then not bring the extra aggressive person go to psuedo-diplomatic negotiations
@@stormjin2242 I mean you're telling me that no body can find a local map??? no geographic surveys? Isn't there normally a map of the area at forests and such? like just go to any highschool geography classroom and you should be able to find a bunch of maps. Crack open a few cars and you might find some maps.
I don't buy that this dude who is constantly causing issues and is obviously a risk is the sole person on earth who knows where this dam is. Hell, I'd rather stumble around the forest aimlessly looking for the dam then risk having Carver in my group
@@MasterIceyy there probably should be, but depending on the area, any such maps may not have lasted to this point
Roanoke telling me that I can skip the recap if I watched the trilogy
Me who has watched the whole trilogy: “No, I don’t think I will”
Regect humans return to monkey
Laughs in Isildur
Interesting that the little girl had no symptoms, even though she was traveling with Ceasar for so long, as we see with the Colonel, he was capable of spreading the virus.
she was the one with the new disease, the colonel gets it from picking up her doll, and her entire behavior is the symptom
She probably was a carrier of the disease but not showing fatal symptoms. For example, she was mute which was most likely the virus attacking the portion of the brain that holds speech.
Almost like having a cough from a disease that kills some people with weaker systems.
@@MuscleBound_withDre The mutated virus didn't kill people, it only made them mute and regress mentally. It was the Colonel killing the infected humans
::Look at skip time stamp::
OOF! This is a girthy one!
:: snuggles into chair happily to watch it all::
I love these breakdowns Roanoke, keep em coming!!
I cant even like this comment it already has 69 likes
*sees that second line* that's what she said
I watched this while mowing the lawn 😂😂😂
@@nickabbott2384 Now you can
Round of applauds for these so-called professional soldiers charging on foot toward a heavily fortified enemy position.
Sounds like a Bayonett Charge from Kreig Corps to me
As mentioned in the video, 113-2 was slowly making humans dumber. And considering they were in such a large group, infection rates increased, decreasing the collective intelligence of the military.
The humans had guns and explosives tho
They sent in choppers first... which bombarded the ramparts fairly well.. plus it wasnt really fortified all that well.
I like the theory that the ones attacking the fort are all already infected. If so, that means they are all mute, and possibly that is the best strategy they can come up with without being able to talk to each other.
Also its likely that at this point they aren't the 'professional' military, but a militia that inherited the equipment but is likely largely made up of post-virus recruits. So their competency was likely suspect even before the virus took hold.
"he tells him his mother eat lead, so he raised him"... did a spit take with my coffee... instant sub!
A good time is about to be had.
Hope you enjoy it bro!
A whole hours worth of good time! I'll be enjoying!
These scientific explanations literally give life to the movies and are sometimes soooo much better than the actual movies themselves👌🏾
People need to give the reboot planet of the apes films more love because they are amazing
I agree, they were actually really good, I was pleasantly surprised, thats pretty much why this video is so long haha
@@RoanokeGaming yup it's sad it ended in three films I wanted to to continue in a comic book or novel or tv series format because it has plenty of potential
I dunno, felt too forced and extremely stupid in my opinion.
i thought they were pretty amazing too. i'm really in love with how amazingly Andy Serkis played Caesar.
Honestly. Although it's really sad will dies.
I'm watching this while shampooing 20 years of mouse poop and unspeakables out of the floor of a limousine... Life's been better, But this sure helps 😂
Update now that I've finished the vid.... Definitely gonna die from this
That's one nasty limo
meanwhile i sit and toil trying to eye my design for a new streetbike im picking up sunday
L1v Is coronavirus
Man I didn't think you watched these kinds of vids, nice seeing you here.
The body armor is probably Kevlar which holds up great against bullets but can actually be cut with knifes quite easily
I figured Ceasar died from the arrow because he was older and they didn't have a doctor to remove the arrowhead, clean, disinfect and close the wound like they did when he was shot. Plus arrowheads are NASTY, they can break off and stay in the body, causing more damage. He likely passed from a mix of severe internal bleeding, age and exhaustion.
I'm pretty sure that it's standard practice to leave bullets inside of a person if trying to get it out would potentially cause more damage than leaving it in.
@@insertname3977 only if they can't or won't f you up more trying to remove than leaving it there...
Also bullets are pretty different from a arrow's head.
@@jaymthesn5981especially if the arrowhead isn't sterile prior to inflicting a wound. Also im sure the material of the arrowhead would determine how quickly it could kill him
@@insertname3977even then it can still cause infection. It’s easier to cure an infection, than retrieving a bullet that is lodged in a high risk area.
What I was supposed to learn: Neurology of the ALZ 112 and 113 Viruses
What I learned: Roanoke HATES Mark Wahlberg
Good video as always!
With all the division happening in the world its good to know we can band together with our hatred of Marky Mark.
"What? Noooo..."
@@michaelwilson5114 Why? lol What did he do?
The man has such a big brain there’s no question he’s a walberg
@@FakeAssHandsomeMcGee_ he beat the fuck out of a Vietnamese man back in the 80s in a hate crime
"Side effects may include: nothing, metallic green flecks in eyes and possible human extinction. Please consult your doctor before using ALZ-113."
23:33 It’s funny, but arrows are actually a fairly reliable way to pierce through some types of Kevlar. Consider that non-hard Kevlar body armor can’t exactly withstand cutting damage, hence why even SWAT members can get stabbed if they’re taken by surprise. Where bullets typically have a piercing impact, arrowheads actually cause cutting AND piercing types of impact. Unless it’s hard plated armor or some kind of juggernaut suit, even your average modern tactical soldier can get slain by an arrow through the chest.
IOTV's have a steel backing behind the kevlar.
@@Zanelander true, in some cases. But the standard plates used by the army now is ceramic plates. Which can do a better job at protecting from internal damage. But ceramic plates are brittle so a arrow could pierce it. Especially if it’s a pretty heavy duty bow
ruclips.net/video/mTm5cuq1aXw/видео.html and here's a spear strike.
Pretty sure these are plate carriers with ballistic PLATES. You don't stab through ballistic plates. And law enforcement uses vests with protection against both edged and ballistic threats and the vast majority of the vests on the market are exactly that.
@@pepebeezon772 it could be. But the movie never stated otherwise. But you’re not wrong. There are plates that protect against things like knives but a lot also plates do not. Plus, if you consider how apes are much stronger than humans on average, I can imagine those bows are much stronger than regular bows
As you said, apes throat can't voice speech. But that's probably thw resson why when Ceaser first spoke, it still sounded like a growl.
And maybe because of rapid development certain dominant human genes activated allowing such functions
@@vice.2324 you need a lot of large structural changes
@@boygenius538_8 possible that in happen since he was born with the virus
@@emanueldargan
Sadly that doesn't explain why the other apes who artificially acquired the virus could also speak.
@@J-manli dang your right
It is sad to see what happened to humanity in this series, especially as we see the snippets of humans in the trailer for kingdom, personally it never sat well with me that humans would lose everything, even in the context of this series. Our intelligence is the only thing propping us up around the world, without it at best we would be naked endurance hunters in equatorial regions, being unable to survive at higher latitudes without the capacity to make fire or clothing.
In order for humans to survive within the context of the apes dominion over the world we would still need the ability to use tools and communicate, enough if its just enough to make clothing and spears and communicate through grunts to hunt animals for food. So our existence would still force a base level of intelligence out of us.
Personally my thoughts are that generations of living like this would force not only the human body and immune system to evolve and become strong enough to combat the Virus but the base level of intelligence humans would need to survive would increase, especially after apes begin hunting us for animal labor and to cull the population.
Taken to its logical conclusion, the ALZ 113 would evolve into a more communicable but less deadly virus over generations, combined with a human body that must become stronger to endure everything the world throws at it my thought is that in the far future humans would regain their intelligence and it would be a repeat of what happened between Homo Sapians and Neanderthals.
Humans would outbreed Apes and compete over resources, we don't even have to win in strength, we just have to weaken apes in every battle, then reclaim our position as dominant species, and without modern morality getting in the way genocide against apes is on the table.
In conclusion Humanity First
I was hoping you'd mention how ape bodies aren't proportionally built for walking on two legs, riding horses or throwing overhanded.
That was something that always bothered me watching the scenes where the apes over power people using such things.
They can walk on two legs fine going by the sheer amount of videos exist filming wild and captive apes strolling around casually. Albeit it does seem less graceful and more energy intensive than the way we walk. Which is due to as you said, the basic structural differences between us. I have seen a video of an orang-utan overhand tossing a small object to a person. But it seemed much like how a 2 year old child would throw something. More of an ungainly, slow toss than a fast, sharp, fluid movement that would be required for throwing a spear to any effect. So they seem to be able to achieve many of the same basic fine motor functions as us, just nowhere near as efficiently or effectively.
As for riding horses like us, well, I have no idea. I imagine some circus somewhere is working on it unfortunately.
You can see how goofy they look when on a horse because their legs are so short but torsos so long
@@jamestoomer1330 No they do it for a short amount of time, they can't do it for as long as us
@@dominicpersaud1155 yes, because as I said, they're much less efficient than us. Its very energy intensive for them to keep it up. I never said they did it all the time, I just said that they were capable of it.
The sad thing about this is that some genius out there can literally recreate something similar to this and we could end up getting rekt by fish walking on land lmao
wat?
Eyyy it not going fo zpread fast enougn
@@keloid123 It'll probably spread fairly quickly, look at the corona pandemic we're having right now.
So fagucci with his function of gains?
All we can create are endless billions of tonnes of plastic waste, chemicals, toxins, radioactive waste (fukushima) and swamping the seas and Oceans. In a few decades, there will be more plastic than marine life in the oceans.
The current viral scaremongering is adding many millions more plastic and other waste (Per day) into the waters.
The fkincg govns,, media and movie studios are directing attention away from the REAL devastation to the world and eventually people.!! Humans wont mutate and be wiped out due to viruses but will get sick, suffer and die of cancer et al from environmental poisoning. Very beneficial for big pharma, "healthcare" industries.
Top notch excellent work, editing & narration
Damn wasn't expecting the vid to be this long, but I'm not complaining
hope you enjoy it bro!
Our timeline: "Reject humanity, return to monke."
This timeline: "Reject monke, rip through humanity."
In Dawn, they brought Carver to fix the dam because he used to work for the water district and was the only one who knew how it worked
Tom Felton/Malfoy is just too damn good at being the bad guy. It takes a really good actor to be able to show that kind of loathing when they are actually a delightful person.
At least in the Flash he had a decent character arc. Sure he was a bit of a douche, but he was a good person overall and became even better over time.
last time i was this early dead space necromorphs were analized "starting with the feet"
Such a lovely image
Analized...lol
@@ProjeKtWEREWOLF analizing starting at the feet. Kinky.
Anyone one here before the new planet apes comes out
The scene where Will is cradling baby Ceasar in the bathroom conveys very interesting emotions to me, like he's a single mother trying to care for her sick child, which is essentially what is happening with leagues more complexity, him being neither a mother nor a woman and the baby being a kidnapped enhanced ape orphan, loved the video though!
Or he can be a father trying to cradle his sick child...which does happen
@@TheEnigmaticBM39 Yeah, people always forget about the fathers.
U know that any parent can .. try to care for their child right????
@@marwaregab7040 yep, fully aware of that fact, no need to be rude about it
@@TheEnigmaticBM39 Yeah he could, but I was trying to make a joke, kinda gave off a patriarchal vibe tho with it, which is never the goal
Man the helmet slogans for the military in the third movie were great.
"Bedtime for Bonzo" is a killer.
This was a surprisingly awesome trilogy, I knew about it but never watched it until 2 years ago. Such an awesome franchise, and I went in blind so it was cool not knowing what was gonna happen, can't recommend it enough 🤩
These new planet of the apes movies are amazing, it just goes to show that reboots can work and I thought it was clever how in the storytelling department they explain that the virus was responsible for humans losing their ability to speak and the colonel getting his comeuppance by being infected by the virus, brilliant stuff!
If only he had burned the doll instead of touching it. Seriously you can tag the infected in your ranks but won’t cleanse things of unknown origin and grab and keep them instead.
i was woken up by this notification
Fall back asleep to the soothing sounds of monkey screams
Sorry President Nixon
The way I see it ALZ wouldn't work in general because neuroplasticity is amazing but not amazing enough to work at that speed. The amyloid would still be build up dangerously creating the Alzheimer's symptoms. It might allow the creation of new skills and memories during that period but you'd effectively lose everything you had before being treated.
The original makes more references to the original 5 movies than the one that shall not be named.
which is the one that shalnt be named
@@medical-cyanide1526
The 2001 Tim Burton version.
@@beastmaster0934 YOU NAMED IT
@@beastmaster0934 what's so bad about it?
I mean the bullet missed his vitals while the arrow didn't, probably hitting his lung, liver or kidney. its not like he got dropped immediately he slowly bled out by internal injuries having already been made and kept weak and injured in the compound.
Love these breakdowns , I also love how I’m able to suspend my disbelief to a point but some movies try to abuse that and it doesn’t work these films on the other hand (especially the Matt Reeves films) do a really great job making this world believable
I have a theory about the speaking thing. I think that the ALZ-113 also gave them more human adaptations/ attributes. We see them walking bipedal and, if this is in the same timeline as the original planet of the apes, this would explain their more humanoid appearance.
Most apes can actually walk bipedaly, just not as long as humans.
@@ghartuckt663 not just most, all apes can walk bipedally short term :) including gibbons, which are apes but not great apes (like us and chimps and gorillas etc.)
@@ghartuckt663checkmate, apetheist
Due to their Pelvic structure just not being made to walk bipedally@@ghartuckt663
Body armor is usually meant to stop bullets, but things like sharp blades and knives can still get through do to how tight the weave is. Looser weaves for knives exist but putting two together can make it extranet heavy. At least, that is how I know it to be.
Yeah but military personnel are usually issued hard Armour (ceramic, steel) those should stop rifle calibers.
@@jeramysteve3394 yeah but this is a rag tag break away group with seemingly no access to equipment outside of that one base. So many of them might not have had proper equipment, plus a chimp is 5 to ten time stronger than a man, so when they throw a spear its coming with a lot of force
@@Getwright- Funny enough there is no other animal that can throw anywhere near as well as humans. An ape spear would be much less forceful than a human one.
@@Getwright- apes can't throw as well as us it's due to bone structure
Ya know i think it would be cool if maybe in the next one they intrduce a human sub sepisc that looks like a monster and acts feral but then is reviled that it just evold a way to resit the viris and also hunts humans
They brought Carver along because he worked in the dam before the pandemic. It's explained somewhere in the movie, but I don't remember where.
"What even is the point of the armor?"
Same point as modern armor. Mostly Psychological.
Kevlar stops bullets, it does not stop knives, arrows, or spears. Kevlar isn't even really used for body armor anymore because it sucks and there are far better alternatives now. However most modern level IV or V armor is layers of fiber and either ceramic or steel plates that can stop knives and bullets / shrapnel. There is a new kind of armor being developed that can stop .50 cal sniper bullets because it uses thick plastic plates that basically melt from friction and absorb the bullet slowing it.
@@atashgallagher5139 can u stop copy pasting the same comment
@@ic4192 Why, they're only giving relevant information on the matter?
I think body armor is still pretty good for protection. Chances are, the average person isn't going to be doing head shots...they are probably going to be shooting at the upper torso, since it's a bigger target. There's always the off-chance of someone shooting you in the head, but I would say you have a better survivability rate with body armor, as opposed to no body armor.
@@atashgallagher5139 really 50.cal? Damn I’d assume that even if you managed to slow the bullet and stop penetration the sheer impact would liquify your insides
Maybe the spear killed him because of an infection
There is actually a dog on RUclips that has been using those little button things to put together words and sentences. She has asked "Why Bunny dog?" :)
Smart hanz effect
I dont understand how this ended up in my recommendeds but I sure am glad I clicked on it. I feel like I learned a lot from this video and being a self proclaimed writer, loved learning in depth lore of this universe. Life is truly fragile
The older I get the more I realise that yes. That is almost exactly what humanity would do
The halo odst soundtrack is so beautiful, works so well for the backround of your videos. Absolute masterpiece
Caesar about to clap them cheeks. That is to funny
In the strict sense of the word, which is often used to describe a lack of abstract, logical human reasoning, yes, Kanzi and other bonobos would be considered irrational. However, it is important to note that they demonstrate remarkable intelligence and advanced cognitive abilities within their own context and capabilities. They have the ability to learn, communicate in complex ways, and solve problems, which highlights the diversity of forms of intelligence in the animal kingdom. The term "irrational" often does not fully capture the range of cognitive abilities that bonobos and other nonhuman primates possess.
Iron Tarkus approves this longer format. Iron Tarkus appreciates the efforts you make for us. Iron Tarkus thanks you. I am Iron Tarkus, and I approve this message.
Haha stinky iron boi,
Can't balance, go *thump*
I, Cato Sicarius disapprove because it does not show the gloriousness of humanity which includes I, Cato Sicarius who is the Knight-Champion of Macragge and the wisdom of The Emperor. These movies need to be remade with I, Cato Sicarius as the main character and leading Humanity into a bright and prosperous future!
When you say bigger brain is bad. I think that only applies to thinking parts. If you had a more complex visual centre to accommodate more advanced eyes for example I don’t think it would negatively impact overall intelligence
The ape theory is actually seen today in modern apes. There is a women who spent years tracking and writing down the story of a tribe of apes. She followed a violent and war faring tribe dominated by a violent leader. The apes gained territory very fast killing other tribes and taking the females of the defeated tribes. It is a very fascinating real life story that almost has a Rome esc type of feeling, I can't remember the womens name or the name of her study's but I recommend trying to find it because it shows a modern representation of how we potentially evolved from an outside view.
I know this is a comment from a year ago, but were you referring to Jane Goodall and the Gombe Chimpanzee War? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gombe_Chimpanzee_War
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Oh yeah it’s all coming together
Force multiplier is my favorite polite weapon name thanks to your great videos lol
I'm digging the use of the Halo 3: ODST and Gears of War 2 soundtracks. Gives off the right feels.
Caesar is my favourite character in this reboot. Too bad that they ended his reign. I wonder if they're making more sequels of this...
If they do I hope they don’t make it go directly to the first movies, I’d rather see this become it’s own thing rather than knowing where it goes
@@roccotaco1843 What would be cool would be seeing different ape cultures interacting, obviously we know Caesar and his apes are the most advanced and intelligent, but the ALZ that was spread around the world by humans also would make all apes intelligent when they were exposed to it.
So you'd have Apes all around the world becoming intelligent over night and establishing societies, I think the African chimps would give Caesars apes the hardest time to conquer just because they're naturally so militaristic and violent
Boy do I got some news for you