EXCELLENT CONTENT!!!!!!! This is the information I was looking for! NO ONE... and I mean NO ONE is supplying consumers with THIS type of Sit-Stand Desk information. Ok... now I'm absolutely torn between The Ulift, VertDesk and New Heights XT. I'm gonna buy one of these desks this week. Just dunno which one smh.
This team is out here doing the real work! This information is so critical, and sorely lacking in the industry. Stability is my number one criteria for a standing desk. THANK YOU for making this video.
The lawsuit you are talking about was thrown out and the judges were literally laughing at Xdesk. They were told that they should hire a marketing company instead of an attorney. How people believe their conspiracy style videos is beyond me. -RB
no 4 legged desks? You compared 4 almost identical desks. What is the actual difference between the 4 on the right? Which block of the factory they're produced on?
Correct. Subjective is from the subjects point of view, ie the person. An opinion is subjective as it can change from person to person (and still be correct - it's just an opinion). Objective is from the objects point of view, ie the table or some other object. A measurement of an object (for the most part) is not open to opinion. So an object (table or whatever) that measures 32" can be measured by multiple subjects (people) and they will all measure it at 32", that won't vary apart from error on the subject persons part. BTW, I do appreciate this video regardless of that error. Great to have an objective measurement to help form a subjective opinion on which table to buy. :-)
He may have meant to say objectively. But then again, if it's not an agreed-upon or widely adopted method of measuring stability, then it could still be considered subjective, albiet with an element of measurement.
The second time he used “subjective” at 0:34, he used it correctly. But yes, the one at the beginning of the video should definitely be “objectively”. Good catch!
@@mullinmax no it’s a fact no standard (like ISO) actually agreed to the usage of this and how it works no white paper to read about it and test it by the community
I hate these cross support beams... From time to time I sit stupidly or move stupidly and *clonk* bang my shin bone with full force onto it. I guess that's a plus for the Ikea Idasen 🤔 (Oh and the fact that it's one of the more easily available desks here in Europe)
Your monitors will be as stable as the weakest link they are connected or supported by. Getting a solid desk and arms with minimal movement/bounce will help. I would avoid extending the monitors out too far from where they connect to your desk -GK
I had a question, when looking at the wobble meter, are the individual numbers supposed to be used by themselves (i.e. @ 30” was a 3 for the new heights XT) or is it better to use the total number (30” @ 3 + 42” @ 6 + 46” @ 9 = 18 to be used)?
You can use the individual numbers to get an idea on specific heights and how they compare. You can also use the totals to get a better idea how stable a desk might be overall -GK
Can you add more measurements into more dimensions into your tests? In addition to lateral movement, forward movement would also be really interessting since I feel like this really represents daily use the best. Thank you for your tests.
Never trust a review site that constantly ranks the top spot to a brand they sell. Stick to paying influencers to do the skewed reviews instead of creating fake comparisons.
It’s unfortunate that you feel this way, but I can understand where you’re coming from. We used the WobbleMeter to create this list, so it really didn’t have anything to do with what we sell. Just about what was most stable. Thanks for watching! -GK
Good idea but i can't trust it if i don't see the footage of you rocking it. Also the problem with using an objective test like this is that you are not standardizing the input (ie. how much you actually push on the desk). for this reason your tests and video need work
We have videos showing how we tested each of the desks in the list. We also used a pull force gauge to measure the force applied each time to keep it consistent. Thanks for watching -GK
Why this video has so many likes? He doesn't even show you the wobbliness, I mean he doesn't try, he just spits out numbers from his tests. What am I suppose to do, just believe he tested right with no visual proof?
@@btodtv Sorry for jumping to conclusions but I've looked at the video review of the IKEA Idasen and I still find that video review relays on the wobblemeter, without actually showing the wobbliness in pratice. I think it's preferable to show a more natural sitting and standing use cases as an example for wobbliness.
Why don’t companies use a C shaped cross brace to eliminate the knee knocker thing completely. My work desk has that, never hit a knee and is way more stable than any of these Chinese designs
So you managed to introduce your mysterious "wobblemeter", describe in great detail the ranges for the scores, complete with graphics, and yet in a 5 minute video, not show us one actual test. You even had all the desks assembled in the studio, and even had pictures (still pictures) of the elusive wobblemeter allegedly in action. But no. video. of. the. tests. That's an awful lot of effort for very little actual content. Makes me think this wobble worry is much ado about nothing.
This is the list of the most stable we’ve tested on the Wobblemeter. If you’d like to watch all 28 videos from the Wobblemeter testing I’d recommend checking out that playlist on our channel. Wobble might not be an issue for you. Only one way to find out I suppose. -GK
EXCELLENT CONTENT!!!!!!! This is the information I was looking for! NO ONE... and I mean NO ONE is supplying consumers with THIS type of Sit-Stand Desk information. Ok... now I'm absolutely torn between The Ulift, VertDesk and New Heights XT. I'm gonna buy one of these desks this week. Just dunno which one smh.
Wow dude don't leave us hanging... Which did you buy and how is it working out for you?
This team is out here doing the real work! This information is so critical, and sorely lacking in the industry. Stability is my number one criteria for a standing desk. THANK YOU for making this video.
Thank you for the support. We really appreciate the positive feedback! -GK
Would like to see the same testing for manual/crank stand desk as well.
The lawsuit you are talking about was thrown out and the judges were literally laughing at Xdesk. They were told that they should hire a marketing company instead of an attorney. How people believe their conspiracy style videos is beyond me. -RB
no 4 legged desks? You compared 4 almost identical desks. What is the actual difference between the 4 on the right? Which block of the factory they're produced on?
Awesome review....you guys always provide lots of info and high quality detail...love your work
Thank you, Armond! -GK
"subjectively measure" means arbitrary. Did you mean objectively?
Correct. Subjective is from the subjects point of view, ie the person. An opinion is subjective as it can change from person to person (and still be correct - it's just an opinion). Objective is from the objects point of view, ie the table or some other object. A measurement of an object (for the most part) is not open to opinion. So an object (table or whatever) that measures 32" can be measured by multiple subjects (people) and they will all measure it at 32", that won't vary apart from error on the subject persons part. BTW, I do appreciate this video regardless of that error. Great to have an objective measurement to help form a subjective opinion on which table to buy. :-)
He may have meant to say objectively. But then again, if it's not an agreed-upon or widely adopted method of measuring stability, then it could still be considered subjective, albiet with an element of measurement.
The second time he used “subjective” at 0:34, he used it correctly. But yes, the one at the beginning of the video should definitely be “objectively”. Good catch!
@@PseudoChris That's a bit of a subjective opinion ;)
@@mullinmax no it’s a fact no standard (like ISO) actually agreed to the usage of this and how it works no white paper to read about it and test it by the community
Do a wobble test on desks without the crossbar like the Mojo desk
I hate these cross support beams... From time to time I sit stupidly or move stupidly and *clonk* bang my shin bone with full force onto it. I guess that's a plus for the Ikea Idasen 🤔 (Oh and the fact that it's one of the more easily available desks here in Europe)
this is really useful information. Ill get the Ikea Idasen then. Thanks for sharing
Nice! That is a good desk -GK
@@btodtv I will get the idasen but the normal version is it stable ast the standing one? It will be helpful cause I am buying it. 🙂
What about the Flexispot desks? Are there any desks you recommend without the bottom brace?
So glad I found this channel! 👍
I'm glad these tests exist, but I'm still not sure which desk to get to simply avoid monitor wobble while typing.
Your monitors will be as stable as the weakest link they are connected or supported by. Getting a solid desk and arms with minimal movement/bounce will help. I would avoid extending the monitors out too far from where they connect to your desk -GK
Awesome video!
LOL You've used the word "subjectively" twice... what you meant is objectively! :) You create a measuring device to be objective.
I had no idea Jay from Red Letter Media was so into desks!
Great comparison and overview, thanks! Could you guys review the latest version of the Fully Jarvis desk that supposedly has stability improvements?
Please get your hands on the 4-legged Uplift desks. I feel that those versions are probably very stable.
You keep saying "subjective" measurements. Do you mean "objective?"
i thought the same
Yes
What other options would you recommend to us living in Australia? Most of the desks reviewed on youtube only ship within the US.
I’m not familiar with the brands in your area. I would reach out to OEM’s like Linak if you’re wanting something high end in the global market -GK
Please test them out by typing on keyboard as well
What’s the most stable sitting desk? Is there a similar video?
How about prices when you are ranking these?
We can work on adding those. -GK
I had a question, when looking at the wobble meter, are the individual numbers supposed to be used by themselves (i.e. @ 30” was a 3 for the new heights XT) or is it better to use the total number (30” @ 3 + 42” @ 6 + 46” @ 9 = 18 to be used)?
You can use the individual numbers to get an idea on specific heights and how they compare. You can also use the totals to get a better idea how stable a desk might be overall -GK
can you please review the Lander Desk?
Can you add more measurements into more dimensions into your tests? In addition to lateral movement, forward movement would also be really interessting since I feel like this really represents daily use the best. Thank you for your tests.
Did you even watch the video...?
Do you think v2 updesk is worth buying?
Updesk or Uplift Desk? Both are different brands with significant differences in component quality -GK
BTOD.com i meant V2 uplift! Also i am interested in Vari desk! Which one do you recommend? Vari doesnt have accessories option
You could do this review again in 2024 and include Deskhaus.
How about 4-leg desks? Are they generally more stable?
Not if they are using four post legs -GK
How do these desks do on carpet?
Will depend on the thickness of the carpet and the padding below -GK
do you deliver to Canada?
We do, but there are additional shipping and duties charged for Canadian shipments -GK
Never trust a review site that constantly ranks the top spot to a brand they sell. Stick to paying influencers to do the skewed reviews instead of creating fake comparisons.
It’s unfortunate that you feel this way, but I can understand where you’re coming from. We used the WobbleMeter to create this list, so it really didn’t have anything to do with what we sell. Just about what was most stable. Thanks for watching! -GK
4-5 years of video and zero video about pneumatic/gas spring standing desk. :(
Do they even exist
Can you review the Tresanti Desk from Costco? That retails for ~300 (199$ when on sale).
We have it in house, but haven't done a full review of it yet -GK
JUST USE THE METRIC SYSTEM ALREADY! I don't have the time or energy to convert everything.
Good idea but i can't trust it if i don't see the footage of you rocking it. Also the problem with using an objective test like this is that you are not standardizing the input (ie. how much you actually push on the desk). for this reason your tests and video need work
We have videos showing how we tested each of the desks in the list. We also used a pull force gauge to measure the force applied each time to keep it consistent. Thanks for watching -GK
Why this video has so many likes? He doesn't even show you the wobbliness, I mean he doesn't try, he just spits out numbers from his tests. What am I suppose to do, just believe he tested right with no visual proof?
There are complete videos for each of the tests. It wouldn’t make sense to show all of these clips in this video, since it would be extremely long -GK
@@btodtv Sorry for jumping to conclusions but I've looked at the video review of the IKEA Idasen and I still find that video review relays on the wobblemeter, without actually showing the wobbliness in pratice. I think it's preferable to show a more natural sitting and standing use cases as an example for wobbliness.
Why don’t companies use a C shaped cross brace to eliminate the knee knocker thing completely. My work desk has that, never hit a knee and is way more stable than any of these Chinese designs
C shaped .... Matches the first letter of the reason...
Cost lol
What make and model do you have?
So you managed to introduce your mysterious "wobblemeter", describe in great detail the ranges for the scores, complete with graphics, and yet in a 5 minute video, not show us one actual test. You even had all the desks assembled in the studio, and even had pictures (still pictures) of the elusive wobblemeter allegedly in action. But no. video. of. the. tests. That's an awful lot of effort for very little actual content.
Makes me think this wobble worry is much ado about nothing.
This is the list of the most stable we’ve tested on the Wobblemeter. If you’d like to watch all 28 videos from the Wobblemeter testing I’d recommend checking out that playlist on our channel.
Wobble might not be an issue for you. Only one way to find out I suppose.
-GK
@@btodtv okay, thanks for the reply, I'll check them out.
Why did they not measure L-desks?? What a joke man
What are L-desks?