Getting Tavares and Marner off the books will be the start of a new identity. Unfortunately for John part of that new identity doesn't include him or his bloated salary.
The oilers have 2 guys I’d love, but they also have Ceci and Nurse. Their defence isn’t really better, they just get to play the LA Kings, Canucks without a goalie and caught fire in the WCF They don’t play Boston or Tampa every year remember That being said. Looking at Florida’s D core, leafs need to build the back end so bad
Edmonton has garbage D. They had a decent playoffs, but they were carried by the offense and the forward depth. Nurse and Ceci are shit. Bouchard doesn't play D. Ekholm is the only good defenseman they have. The Leafs are closer to Edmonton. And they will get better. Much better.
Why would the Jets take that deal? They don't need a 3rd line center or washed up player. The only thing is ok, but its late 1st and Jets don't need picks. Handing out scrap for a top prospect. Dream on.
Leave Minten off any trades . Here is a young forward that has to be given a chance at 3rd line centre or even maybe 2nd in a few years. Tired of leafs drafting and sending guys out without giving them a decent look.
Robertson will never be a consistent top line player. He is just to easy to move off the puck and that would be amplified at playoff time. Minten could prove to be a very good 3rd line player for years to come that could even take on 2nd line minutes in a pinch. I would be more inclined to move Robertson and maybe Liligren and the pick for McGroarty. Justbwary about losing Minten, who could become a great shut down guy with offensive upside. Definitely tome.for Robertson to move on though.
Not willing to part with Minten if Im the Leafs. I'd be more willing to do Liljegren and Robertson plus the 24' first round pick for Mcgroarty and the 37th pick. Jets need D and Liljegren is more than serviceable they would also get a scoring winger which they could need if they are trading out Ehlers, and then they are moving up 13 spots in the draft.
Couldn’t care less about the Leafs if they don’t make Al least 8-110 new moves. To go Marner, Samsonov, Reilly, Reeves, just to mention a few. 7 new guys behind the bench means nothing, how many coaches and personnel have we had. We need great goaltending, players with grit and experience on defence and offensive players who are more than just seasonal players. But, this organization is notorious for making bad trades. I saw the Leafs win 4 Cups with 1 coach ( so I know what it takes to win a team effort, great goaltending, sold strong defence, an offence that plays tough all season an in the playoffs, momentum , luck and coaching that keeps the positive energy and criticism in abundance) in a league full of Hall of Fame players.wil it happen again. I in a league of this size, with free agency , RFA and salary caps,the window to produce a winning combination. to win the toughnesses yropy in spotrt. Is very small. They could n’t even come close with their ‘core four’ (which I hate that they promote this idea, it is a team effort) has been beyond disapdointing. And now the tea needs major surgery. The overpaid players have been a major disappointment in the playoffs to say the least. Will the Leafs ever win a Cup again? Any realist wil know there are 6-8 teams year after year better than the Leafs year after year, Boston, Vegas, Tampa, Rangers, Carolina, and Florida and soon Ottawa just to mention a few. It will take some new great acquisitions and proof thisteam can play consistent and positive gritty hockey during the season and playoffs to change my mind about there future Stanley Cup success.
This is not only an overpay it's an overpay * 2 Robertson alone might be okay but throwing in a bunch of other stuff is an overpay on an overpay. This guy has not played one second in the NHL
People said Hyman was destined for bottom 6 career too.
Keep Minten
ha hyman
Hyman plays on a line with the best player in the world. McDavid makes anyone look good
Stop trading 1st round draft picks. Ffs
Terrible trade. Subtract Minten from that deal and it would make more sense. Robertson is already an NHL player.
I heard last year Tavares say, we need to get an identity., this new coaching staff I believe will do that.
ya Starting with the garbage Captain of the team making 11m to score 2 points in playoffs and have a horrible season!
Getting Tavares and Marner off the books will be the start of a new identity. Unfortunately for John part of that new identity doesn't include him or his bloated salary.
Ten years in 😂 thats a ridiculous statement. Season team and playoff joke is your identity 😂
@@Lee-f9w5vWhen his contract is up he won't be earning those numbers, and in regards to calling him garbage, relax take a breath.
@@craigharrison5406 Tavares's salary will no longer be bloated after this year, no matter if he stays on or plays elsewhere.
Looking at the Oilers and Panthers D-men, Leafs are a long ways away from having a solid D core.
The oilers have 2 guys I’d love, but they also have Ceci and Nurse. Their defence isn’t really better, they just get to play the LA Kings, Canucks without a goalie and caught fire in the WCF
They don’t play Boston or Tampa every year remember
That being said. Looking at Florida’s D core, leafs need to build the back end so bad
Edmonton has garbage D. They had a decent playoffs, but they were carried by the offense and the forward depth. Nurse and Ceci are shit. Bouchard doesn't play D. Ekholm is the only good defenseman they have. The Leafs are closer to Edmonton. And they will get better. Much better.
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@@DavidMartinez-q6y I'd take Ekholm and Bouchard over any D-men the Leafs have. They get a lot more out of Ceci than the Leafs did.
Bad deal! No way this happens for a player who hasn't played an NHL game.
Why would the Jets take that deal? They don't need a 3rd line center or washed up player. The only thing is ok, but its late 1st and Jets don't need picks. Handing out scrap for a top prospect. Dream on.
Leave Minten off any trades . Here is a young forward that has to be given a chance at 3rd line centre or even maybe 2nd in a few years. Tired of leafs drafting and sending guys out without giving them a decent look.
why trade so much for a 37th pick with no NHL experience?
Over pay
Robertson will never be a consistent top line player. He is just to easy to move off the puck and that would be amplified at playoff time. Minten could prove to be a very good 3rd line player for years to come that could even take on 2nd line minutes in a pinch. I would be more inclined to move Robertson and maybe Liligren and the pick for McGroarty. Justbwary about losing Minten, who could become a great shut down guy with offensive upside. Definitely tome.for Robertson to move on though.
Robertson will be a very good player if he ever gets a chance so dont agree with you or on Minten either
Robertson is draft bust. Enough chances kid gets hurt too much. Maybe send him to LA kings or Dallas
Robertson . Liligren and a pick. Don't need ehlers. He is always hurt and going downhill.
I would take Ehlers and McGroaty over Minten and Robertson all day long...who wouldn't lol...interesting days ahead...GLG
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Not willing to part with Minten if Im the Leafs. I'd be more willing to do Liljegren and Robertson plus the 24' first round pick for Mcgroarty and the 37th pick.
Jets need D and Liljegren is more than serviceable they would also get a scoring winger which they could need if they are trading out Ehlers, and then they are moving up 13 spots in the draft.
Stupid trade for a 2nd round pick.
Couldn’t care less about the Leafs if they don’t make Al least 8-110 new moves. To go Marner, Samsonov, Reilly, Reeves, just to mention a few. 7 new guys behind the bench means nothing, how many coaches and personnel have we had. We need great goaltending, players with grit and experience on defence and offensive players who are more than just seasonal players. But, this organization is notorious for making bad trades. I saw the Leafs win 4 Cups with 1 coach ( so I know what it takes to win a team effort, great goaltending, sold strong defence, an offence that plays tough all season an in the playoffs, momentum , luck and coaching that keeps
the positive energy and criticism in abundance) in a
league full of Hall of Fame players.wil it happen again. I
in a league of this size, with free agency , RFA and salary caps,the window to produce a winning combination. to win the toughnesses yropy in spotrt. Is very small. They could n’t even come close with their ‘core four’ (which I hate that they promote this idea, it is a team effort) has been beyond disapdointing. And now the tea needs major surgery. The overpaid players have been a major disappointment in the playoffs to say the least. Will the Leafs ever win a Cup again? Any realist wil know there are 6-8 teams year after year better than the Leafs year after year, Boston, Vegas, Tampa, Rangers, Carolina, and Florida and soon Ottawa just to mention a few. It will take some new great acquisitions and proof thisteam can play consistent and positive gritty hockey during the season and playoffs to change my mind about there future Stanley Cup success.
Reeves played his best hockey in the first round. At times
To be fair, the Leafs don't have a great track record of trading players away... I'll start with Tuukka Rask to the Bruins, for Andrew Raycroft.
This is not only an overpay it's an overpay * 2 Robertson alone might be okay but throwing in a bunch of other stuff is an overpay on an overpay. This guy has not played one second in the NHL
Agreed with Darius opinion fully on Robertson and minten
Way too much given up.... for someone who has never played in the NHL.
Ya they could give up Matthew Knies !
4 unproven pieces for 1 unproven piece? We can't say McGroarty will be a good NHL player until he actually plays in the NHL.