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MAYDAY, Structure Fire, Lapeer County, Metamora Township 4th Alarm Drone 4K
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- Опубликовано: 17 фев 2023
- Audio Courtesy of Broadcastify, Edited by Me.
Firefighters made an extraordinary attempt at putting this one out. Balloon Frame Construction plus the fire had a big head start made working conditions difficult.
Firefighters flowed an impressive amount of water, all of which they brought with them because there are no hydrants.
As usual, verified that this flight will not interfere with emergency operations prior to takeoff. Please don't fly drones near emergencies without permission.
Its always a sobering moment when the air horns sound, and the interior attack comes to an end. At that point, you know the building cannot be saved. I feel badly for the family. They've lost their home, in spite of the best efforts of several fire agencies. What miserable weather conditions for firefighting.
Your videography is excellent, and so is your choice of music.
Hats off to the firefighters, for making an aggressive attack on the fire, and for ringing in
more alarms.
It also means that an interior attack before extinguishing all Visible Burning Material from the exterior, has failed once again.
Pin a medal on that guy who followed procedure and put a ladder up to that second story window right at the beginning. He may have saved three lives.
You think a jump from that window would have killed them?
@@reinerampen
Probably not , but it could have caused serious injury.
Nobody put a ladder at that window in the beginning . That ladder was only there for because a guy was venting those windows . Right place at the right time I would say . But they just didn’t have the man power to do everything they needed to do . But with what they had they did a decent job
For what they had, it could have been way worse for sure, glad no one was hurt.
Nicely done BOYZ whole lotta fire, limited water, limited manpower You guys did a pretty damn nice job! 😊🤙🏻 thanks to the puppy saving dude 🐾 🐾 🐾🐾🐾🤙🏻 Peace everyone goes home ❤️
And how would you know that? You saw no effective fire suppression until the end when they turned into Fountain Statues.
Excellent work, Jason. And of course to the firefighters!
@Cessna Driver Of course, "excellent work" to the firefighters as well is what I meant. :)
The thermal imaging shot was crazy! Very cool to see how it shows the heat and flames.
Great work by the firefighters in terrible weather conditions. I really like your videography and the accompanying incidental piano music.
It looked like a calm day. The drone was not impacted by any winds that I saw.
This video was simply amazing! Wow great job Sir
I still get emotionally conflicted creating this type of content. It is a recording of someone’s worse day, and I’m sensitive to this.
But I also feel it is newsworthy and most of the greatest journalism involves tragedy.
When there is a go fund me, I always include a link in description. This has helped others generate many more donations than they would otherwise.
Wow, this was professionally done, sounds, music, all views. Very impressed. Also including thermal, how bad it really is inside. I am surprised they were using the water canon with men inside, good way to collapse the roof onto them. Most I hear is 3 blasts, maybe that’s for everyone out, and mayday was that sound which is incredibly sobering to hear.
So sorry for the home owner, glad they were safe and their fur babies. Just really love your editing, filming etc. you can tell you spent sometime in it. Well done.
And most of all, thank you for the people that put their lives on the line to help friends and strangers alike. Being their on one of the worse days of their lives. Thank you for your service.
Thanks for posting this. I got into SDR last year and was listening to dispatch when this happened. It was tense. I had another RTL-SDR listening/recording the Road Commission and they were called to put salt down in the area, in particular around the water tower they were filling up at. Glad nobody was hurt, including the dogs.
Software defined radio is awesome. I play just a little bit.
nice video and ya I was a little shocked they opened that pipe with members inside.
I especially loved the soothing music as we watched someone's house and dreams burn down. I almost wanted them to stop putting water on it,,,like watching a peaceful fire in the fireplace.
Very nicely done! Fires are devastating.
Hmmm, hand lines from the exterior and a ladder pipe flowing while crews are on the interior, gee, Iwonder why things suddenly changed and they had to bail out.
I appreciate the drone coverage and the thermography at the end. Great work!
Thanks for the kind words.
It’s very difficult to be in a position to film these as it is obviously a non scheduled event.
It is also tricky to make certain before the flight that operating a drone during the emergency will not interfere with their operation and I do this 100% of the time.
I currently have permission to operate from most of the local fire departments.
Occasionally I head to a big fire further away, and it’s a bit tricky to secure this verification but I actually have really good luck just asking for the incident commander and explaining what I’m looking for.
This works because after the first 30 mins the IC is generally much less task saturated than in the very beginning and if it’s far away it likely takes me at least this long to arrive.
They also like to utilize my thermal imaging in real time on occasion.
Thank goodness none of the impaired occupants were at home. Also, great response by multiple departments. There was great communication between departments - everyone seemed on the ball, alert, and well-coordinated. Is the part of the house with the bay window originally a mobile home?
Great drone video coverage!
That was a really nice house. Good aerial video.
It sounds like the dispatcher is confusing a second alarm with a second page. After the IC called for the second alarm she called for the second page. Two total different things.
11:25 This is incredably dangeroius. If the nozzle persons feet slipped, that stream could knock those firefighters off that roof.
11:50 This is where they should have been from the beginning. Outside, upwind and at the venting location. They could have inserted and nozzle adjusted to a medium cone of water and fogged the interior and the wind would have driven that fog through the second floor. The moment the flames died down, vent windows on both sides to increase the cross flow ventilation and to further spread the fog of water. Then, you go into a much safer and clear environment to mop up.
The Fountain Statue Water Squirting at the end is a far cry from real and effective firefighting directed by a Thinker.
Not trying to be critical, as I was a volunteer for 7 years (certified FF1, FF2, MFR), in a rural community where mutual aid and water shuttling was part of every structure fire, but I saw a lot of (safety and procedural) things that really bothered me, such as one person not wearing a helmet, on a ladder, serving as a backup to the red-hat entry guy (officer?) ! You go in as a pair and don't just wait outside while your partner goes into the abyss. And then a long, un-manned charged line was just sitting there, eventually picked up by someone not wearing turnout gear. Was this person a Firefighter or neighbor? That person was getting bounced around by the recoil, just shooting water onto the roof, without guidance as to what to do. We usually coiled lines to minimize 'recoil'. Was that person properly trained? I saw a lot of firefighters casually walking around the structure, while charged lines were unmanned. I also didn't see efforts at controlling the fire - which is very critical. Random window-breaking is not controlling the burn. I realize I'm going to get blasted for being critical, but if you sign up for the job, it is a tremendous responsibility that requires continuous training.
Understand your points, but many rural towns don't have the equipment, manpower or money for proper training they do the very best with what little they have. I am retired FF EMT got out in mid 90s. I live in upstate NY and have vol depts with million dollars rigs and multi million dollar stations and see some of the very same things you mentioned. Instead of wasting money trying to have the biggest stations and rigs , that money should be used to have 1,2 or even 3 members become state certified trainers and then training can be done in house which would increase retention and gain trust among your members that you enter these buildings with. I have seen things that would make your head spin . It's fine that you seen these things but just keep in mind that other then a couple , most of those trucks looked very old. And the same stuff happens in highly funded depts also
@@61639093 These guys have nice equipment, there's ZERO excuse for not training.
Thank you for replacing the important radio traffic with funeral music
I utilized 100% of the available radio traffic. They switched to an encrypted radio channel.
I did have an audio recorder running on scene but an errant Airpack was alarming in close proximity and nobody wants to listen to that.
Hope all personnel are safe!!!!
What in the world was any firefighter doing on the second floor of this structure?
They had all of 15 FFs on scene and attempting an interior attack?
I get the effort but wasn't the structure well past the point of offensive attack with limited water?
The truck sat at the front of the structure for a long time and assume the lack of water is why it wasn't put in service?
Took me a moment to realize that the reason they quit was because the water had run out. Sadly rural residents cannot count on fire hydrants that urban residents do. Total loss by 3 minutes in on video. Good job FD. 8 minutes in evacuate! Heartbreaking
That's why it is imperative to Surgically apply water to the burning material instead of just squirting it in the general direction of the structure and not moving.
Thanks for posting this video. I do some RUclips and some in-person training for fire departments. I don't monetize my YT but do give full credit. Wondering if you have the full video in thermal imaging? There are a couple of clips I would like to use. With your permission of course. I teach a class called The Art of Reading Smoke: The Next Generation. Anyway, thanks for considering it.
I am sure the firefighters appreciated the piano music while they fought the fire :)
Hi, I am really impressed by your drone, the resolution is excellent and the ability to switch to thermal in real time is really cool. What is the make and model, and where did you get it? What does this model cost, if I may ask? Thanks much from Georgia, Scott
I flew two different drones in this video.
MAVIC 3, which has amazingly clear picture. It is the top prosumer drone made my dji.
For thermal, I use a MAVIC 2 enterprise advanced.
It has a high end thermal sensor but a pretty boring vision camera. If you look hard enough you can see the footage from this drone is not nearly as high quality as the M3.
What was the mayday? Saw guys coming out the second floor window. Did conditions just rapidly deteriorate on them?
I am sure it did when they put that ladder pipe in service.
A mayday call usually indicates structural collapse, and to pull back
And dats dat...Dere was nuttin else we could do...
Incredible video drone capture! If firefighters would have utilized drone thermal they would have known better where hoselines should have been placed! There was a lot of wasted water being placed on this structure! Otherwise great video work!
All they had to do was vent the roof, the house was pretty well involved so it wouldn't have been difficult to find the fire.
@@speedball10169I don’t know anything about firefighting besides what I’ve learned from RUclips. @transmitthe1075 has a recent video where he discusses roof venting and makes the case for not putting firefighters on peaked roofs. Video is at ruclips.net/video/6hM-xMd2xpc/видео.html. I found his take interesting.
@@GarciaFan37 Everyone has their own opinion and every department has their own sog/sop on it. Imo it depends on the pitch of the roof. You also have a ladder truck there, you can vent off the stick without having stepped foot onto the roof
@@speedball10169 yeah. I just thought it was an interesting perspective that FDNY has.
Love the thermal imaging. Are you able to share the info in real time?
Yes I can view thermal in real time.
@@jacuzzibusguy Were you able to share it with the firefighters as they struggled to get control of the fire?
@@jacuzzibusguydid you share it with the fire chief so he could see what he was dealing with? I assume that would be really helpful.
...Looks like a house with different sections built at different times... The original at the front left side, and what looks like two or three different add-ons at the right and back... Hope everyone got out all right...
I think your assessment is spot on. I imagine this only complicates firefighting efforts.
@@jacuzzibusguy - Thank you... Thats why I brought it up... The inside of some houses with different add-ons can be something of a maze for firemen to advance through, especially when looking for those that might be trapped, amidst the added heat and smoke... There is also the matter of different sized attic spaces, crawl spaces, closet, HVAC, and inaccessable space all via the imperfect construction for smoke, heat, and fire to easily travel through to get to that gulp of fresh air to explode into a flashover...
1st in crews deployed attack lines,just needed water which most rural departments are lacking.
Asian power.
💪no fear to the guys that were inside of this red hot structure
No common sense or training either...
Timing was a bit off for the tower to open as FF were still evacuating , aside from that safety issue sad to see , hear that a family with disabled member are homeless. Chimney fire maybe , by the look of damage around the center
hope everything is alright.
Was this in Michigan
Yes. Lapeer County.
Music sounded eerie,made me think of the titanic going down into the atlantic.
I ran out of radio traffic to use…
I had audio from the scene, but there was an Airpack alarm sounding that made it no fun to listen to.
MADAY: 7:38
Why are you flowing a ladder pipe with crews inside…. Pick an attack, interior, or exterior. Especially when you KNOW NO ONE IS INSIDE,,,,MY GOD
Are the firefighters from the mayday call okay?
Yes. All acounted for
No one inside per the homeowner.
5th alarm
I know it's super sissified, and makes you a wimp, but you know, when you are standing on a roof working on a fire, y'all might think about wearing your BA. If for nothing else other than eyepro. @12:10
Never heard a mayday, was this cast over a tactical channel? For limited amount of people and resources seems to be an aggressive style department. I applaud you for this, there are always things we can do better or different, but with the dying breed of Volunteering I think you did well.
Yes, they had switched to an encrypted channel. I did later obtain a copy of the actual mayday...but long after this video was published.
@@jacuzzibusguy That's not good. The maydays should've been broadcast on all the channels.
If there is ONE thing I wish all of you scanner hounds would do is, in the text of the title or info, PLEASE POST THE CITY, COUNTY and STATE. Where in the wild wild world of Sports Metamore Township???????
Google is your friend
@@makaye3259 No it is NOT. It is Basic Journalism. "Who, What, WHERE, When and How...." Just include the state in the title. Simple. A two letter postal abbreviation. Lazy .
@@jsimpson8018 Calm down! You’re gonna pop a vein! 😆
@@jsimpson8018 kinda like the guys who post a for sale ad- car for sale .. .green. no other info needed! ..so freekin irritating
There are too few Men in adequate water supply Fire has too much headway mention never be in that structure. Men should never be in that structure.
Where the f is the water?
They might have been a good distance from a hydrant. Rural counties like that, hydrants aren't close by
Why did this need music?
I ran out of suitable audio. They switched to encrypted channel so there was no further radio traffic. I had an audio recorder running on the fireground but someone left an Airpack alarm going off near the recorder thus ruining the audio.
@@jacuzzibusguy Can't argue with that! You did the best with what ya had!
2nd floor mayday called and the tower is spraying down into the 2nd floor, initially with a fog pattern ( could help cool it for the mayday FF), then goes to straight stream..........very dumb thing to do, good way to knock guys off their feet or knock their SCBA mask off if hit. 🤦♂️
Why they have to add this crap music for wow
They switched over to encrypted channel so there was no more radio traffic available. Also, the audio from scene was ruined by an Airpack that was alarming. Used music to fill the gap.
@@jacuzzibusguy oh ok thanks
I thought this was a practice Burn at first . Hope they had good Insurance . Firemen exit the second floor onto the ladder with NO HANDLINE . How are they knocking fire down ??? .
I’m not sure if I would have put any guys in this house . This fire was well off on arrival . It’s also a really old house with the potential to go up like a pack of matches . As it began to . Also , not having the manpower to form a RIT team incase of a mayday makes me nervous. Those guys got pretty lucky thank god . I would have went completely defensive here . And that’s not taking a shot at this department or these guys . It’s just a manpower thing . They did a great job with what they had . It’s just tough in rural areas like this . Stay safe
We damn sure wouldn't have put anyone interior, WAY too much extension, and not nearly enough manpower. That's why they ended up with a Mayday...
The second thing you do at just about all fires is put bodies inside a burning structure. The first thing you do is extinguish all Visible Burning Material from the exterior combined with horizontal venting.
who are you getting permission from to fly?
One doesn’t need permission to fly per se.
Rather, it is important to verify with the incident commander that drone flight will NOT interfere with emergency operations.
The illegality is not in flying a drone but in interfering or operating carelessly or recklessly.
I have made prior arrangements with some of the local departments, including this one, to launch a drone first, then making the IC aware when practical.
That guy is often task saturated early in an incident and doesn’t necessarily have time to be discussing such matters.
When I venture further from
Home, I often miss out on filming the first several minutes as I wait patiently to inquire with a fire officer when it appears they have a minute to chat.
I’ve been doing this for about 3 years now and only been denied once.
For the most part, firefighters seem to really appreciate my efforts, or at the very least tolerate my shenanigans.
My approach is as a journalist gathering content for a story.
I’m quite well known as the drone guy within the county where I live.
I also make sure to be polite and respectful and I’m
A big rule follower.
I go through the checklist, verifying airspace is clear, visibility is above minimum, that I’m using a beacon after sunset, not fly directly over persons or moving vehicles etc.
America...
@@jacuzzibusguy ok, well good luck to you with all that then. The FAA isn't fucking around. If you want to fly for recreation, drones...fixed wing....you have to register with the FAA and sport their number on the outside of all your airframes.
If you want to fly commercially, Part 107....holyshit, you gotta jump thru all kinda hoops.
Fines can be in the 5 figure range.
Good luck.
@@semperfidelis8386 I’ve been a part 107 pilot for years. I fly drones professionally and teach unmanned aircraft courses to other professionals.
I also work with a prominent aviation attorney that has helped tremendously along the way.
I’m confident that I’m doing everything according to the regulations.
4 alarm...not 4th alarm
What’s the difference?
NYC labels everything Nth alarm. It does sound weird to say, but it's not chili.