Ep.2 Everything you need to know - AoE Edition - 10.2 Assassination Rogue PTR

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  • Опубликовано: 11 сен 2024

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  • @BuboStabbins
    @BuboStabbins 10 месяцев назад +47

    We appreciate you making the videos. Rogue youtube is a lifeless desert.

    • @whispyr5793
      @whispyr5793  10 месяцев назад +7

      we out here tryin

    • @maxw565
      @maxw565 10 месяцев назад

      Not while whispyr is in here!

    • @ds8867
      @ds8867 10 месяцев назад +1

      Some might say,
      They are invisible!
      OK sry

  • @FAMIB
    @FAMIB 10 месяцев назад +5

    Things just look so much smoother now, I love it. And I'm so happy that Kingsbane is back in a big way.

  • @berserked6280
    @berserked6280 10 месяцев назад +2

    Awesome content, once again man. Really appreciate the effort you put into these vids. Best of luck with the guide writing o7. Cheers!

  • @VividVoid
    @VividVoid 10 месяцев назад +1

    I have officially decided on rogue over Enh as of a week ago as my new main. WIth Sin being my primary interest. I'm all in on Whispyr content now.

    • @cyrilpeyer5584
      @cyrilpeyer5584 10 месяцев назад

      Haha did the same choice yesterday

    • @cwhit2575
      @cwhit2575 10 месяцев назад +1

      447 enhancement. CE and KSH
      Trading all that for my 427 sin rogue baby

    • @VividVoid
      @VividVoid 10 месяцев назад

      @@cwhit2575 Same story of swapping off my 446 CE Lock. Respect.

  • @kairukus
    @kairukus 10 месяцев назад +1

    have been considering switching from outlaw to sin and i think this sold me! thanks !

  • @jaykooz
    @jaykooz 9 месяцев назад

    Started rogue in 10.2 (different character every patch) your vids are 🤌🤌

  • @Yamster3
    @Yamster3 10 месяцев назад +1

    Enjoy the work you're doing, take your time :D

    • @whispyr5793
      @whispyr5793  10 месяцев назад

      thank you :) I hope you guys enjoy the written guides just as much

  • @MegaSlacker123
    @MegaSlacker123 10 месяцев назад

    Great content again , much appreciated , enjoy your break 😊

  • @Arstik
    @Arstik 10 месяцев назад

    aww yiss! a new Whíspyr video, very informative!

  • @steve-davies
    @steve-davies 9 месяцев назад

    Thanks so much for this guide, helped fill the gaps Discord and written guides couldn't fill. I have your plater profile from Discord, what package is the WA group under your energy bar that is track splatter and scent etc. I need it when I get home from work!

    • @whispyr5793
      @whispyr5793  9 месяцев назад

      that's all in my afenar edit, wago.io/p/whispyr

  • @SkullCrusherrrrr
    @SkullCrusherrrrr 10 месяцев назад

    Appreciate this video again! Great content.
    Two questions though:
    1. My packs in +20s die so quickly that it is usually not worth it to refresh bleeds. Would you recommend going for caustic splatter damage near the end of the pack?
    2. Would it not be handy to have a weakaura that counts the amount of garrote and ruptures out?

    • @whispyr5793
      @whispyr5793  10 месяцев назад

      1. sure why not as long as you have the energy
      2. probably not

  • @Sapzilla
    @Sapzilla 10 месяцев назад

    Absolutely love this!! 😎

  • @tm_gazoul1047
    @tm_gazoul1047 10 месяцев назад +1

    Hi very nice video.
    I have a question, how do you get the yellow square around the bleeds that are going to fade, on the ennemies healthbars?

    • @whispyr5793
      @whispyr5793  10 месяцев назад

      that would be a plater mod for pandemic glow

  • @Dark_Tesla
    @Dark_Tesla 10 месяцев назад

    YASS KING MORE CONTENT

  • @Chireiya
    @Chireiya 8 месяцев назад

    I feel like you mentioned it somewhere but I can't find it. How did you set it up in plater so that your bleeds get that yellow border when they enter pandemic range?

    • @whispyr5793
      @whispyr5793  8 месяцев назад

      it's a script for pandemic, can find it on wago

  • @woodin2007
    @woodin2007 10 месяцев назад +1

    What’s your addons that help you maintain the buffs above the target dummies?

  • @coreyrus-vid2863
    @coreyrus-vid2863 10 месяцев назад +1

    I know the ironwire bit was mentioned but what about MA? Is it super necessary to play or could that be swapped to like flying dagger for extra fok damage?

    • @whispyr5793
      @whispyr5793  10 месяцев назад

      the damage on MA, especially during shadow dance windows, is pretty good. But you can drop it for a minor dps loss if you want to for the utility of flying daggers or something, yes

    • @whispyr5793
      @whispyr5793  10 месяцев назад

      great question btw

    • @Handcannon77
      @Handcannon77 10 месяцев назад

      if you dont care about losing a bit of ST/boss damage, and you find yourself using vanish a lot for reapplying bleeds anyway(instead of using it for the last 3-4 sec of KB), its not really a big deal. The main value in MA comes from using it to juice the end of KB(when KB is at its strongest) to do big prio dmg and big splatter cleave, but it is a bit more of a min-max/advanced thing to worry about.

    • @coreyrus-vid2863
      @coreyrus-vid2863 10 месяцев назад

      @@whispyr5793 thanks whisp for your videos!!

    • @coreyrus-vid2863
      @coreyrus-vid2863 10 месяцев назад

      @@Handcannon77 Yea that was exactly my thought process. I assumed I would be using my vanish in M+ mostly for bleed reappy situations if I can’t Restealth instead of to juice KB and so I figured I could maybe swap MA for something else if I’m not going to be using it for it’s main purpose in juicing KB like in ST build. Thanks for the reply!

  • @dylanwright6632
    @dylanwright6632 10 месяцев назад

    Question, would you say it's important to track amp/deadly poison on nameplates? I'm trying to help my boomer brain out a bit and reduce nameplate clutter and I'm curious how much you really track and play around those.

    • @whispyr5793
      @whispyr5793  10 месяцев назад

      should be okay to drop for the most part. Some niche situations but nothing crazy

  • @johannesdatblue4164
    @johannesdatblue4164 10 месяцев назад +1

    If i drop tea to get range and really want to keep the 10%leech, how much dämäge do i lose? In theory, range can increase dmg every now and then... so...
    How expensive is tea withput getting echo?

    • @whispyr5793
      @whispyr5793  10 месяцев назад

      getting leeching AND acro is probably like 3-5% loss

    • @johannesdatblue4164
      @johannesdatblue4164 10 месяцев назад

      @@whispyr5793 how can tea be so strong... sigh....
      Think i take the loss.
      Wsit shadowmelt does it work to proc ic?

    • @dirtymightmusic5239
      @dirtymightmusic5239 10 месяцев назад

      I was wondering the same and checked in one of the sims that whispyr shared in one of his previous videos and dropping just tea for acro was around a 17k dps los IIRC.
      I really want that increased aoe since it plays so smooth with it but god damn the dps loss hurts if you wanna get it ^^

    • @whispyr5793
      @whispyr5793  10 месяцев назад

      turns out having more energy and some mastery is pretty good damage, and leeching is uh... not damage :P

  • @kevingraham4736
    @kevingraham4736 10 месяцев назад

    personally i wish they had changed crimson tempest to just a AOE application of rupture., and just replaced carnage with something else. allowing us to just do other things spatter, envenoms etc.

    • @whispyr5793
      @whispyr5793  10 месяцев назад

      that would super take away from the multi-dotting aspect of the rotation, can't say I agree I'm afraid, but it's a neat idea

  • @UndJoah
    @UndJoah 10 месяцев назад

    I see you have a Mutilate/Ambush Macro and Mutilate on an extra bind. Is there a scenario where you need an extra binding for mutilate or ambush or can I go with only the macro?

    • @whispyr5793
      @whispyr5793  9 месяцев назад

      not a macro, that's blindside

  • @MarieBuns
    @MarieBuns 10 месяцев назад

    What's the addon that shows in the health plates when garrote/rupture/crimson tempest are falling off? the frames that become yellow (sorry for bad explanation)

  • @dominikdostal8561
    @dominikdostal8561 9 месяцев назад

    Where can i get ur UI? Specifically those nameplates with poison duration. Thanks

  • @julianoazzolinposser5578
    @julianoazzolinposser5578 9 месяцев назад

    Can someone pls tell me how to make Rupture on plater have yellow borders only after 10seconds? Would make my day ❤
    Thx again whíspyr, i've been able to manage 70+ assassination parses, just by watching only your videos and guides!

    • @whispyr5793
      @whispyr5793  9 месяцев назад

      it's a script you can add, can see it in my plater profile under wago.io/p/whispyr

  • @madisonbrackett2900
    @madisonbrackett2900 10 месяцев назад

    I noticed that you don't end up using Shiv during the "General" rotation (i.e. w/o Cooldowns). Was that intentional as it's not worth, or would you ideally want to use that on Cooldown?

  • @carsonkitt7651
    @carsonkitt7651 10 месяцев назад

    really debating on coming back for m+ the spec looks alot more playable now. Glad it got more aoe besides the bleeds

    • @whispyr5793
      @whispyr5793  10 месяцев назад

      It’s pretty good honestly caustic is crazy

    • @carsonkitt7651
      @carsonkitt7651 9 месяцев назад

      @whispyr5793 yea, glad I came back it's a lot better now. I sure do miss long arms though. I'm sorry healers I don't mean to stand in the aoe

  • @suleszilard
    @suleszilard 10 месяцев назад

    Thank you

  • @TheDarkfrequence
    @TheDarkfrequence 9 месяцев назад

    i have a question im rly struglin with my energy, i do the same rotation but energy is gone

  • @CallemanYO
    @CallemanYO 10 месяцев назад

    What do you think about lovering the number of target Indiscriminate applies to ?

    • @whispyr5793
      @whispyr5793  10 месяцев назад

      I think it's fine at 2 additional honestly. Would be a bit smoother if we weren't trying to also cram Kingsbane into Shadow Dance, but I think overall it's perfectly fine as is

  • @PinealPro
    @PinealPro 10 месяцев назад

    Do you think it’s worth to track deadly and amp poison with all the buffs to track on nameplates?

    • @whispyr5793
      @whispyr5793  10 месяцев назад

      I track deadly just to make sure I have poisons on everything but realistically you probably don’t need to track it, no

  • @mariolungolov4213
    @mariolungolov4213 10 месяцев назад

    Do you mouse over to spread the bleeds or you rely on the smart spread?

    • @whispyr5793
      @whispyr5793  10 месяцев назад

      I don't use mouse-over's, I just tab target everything but I guess you could

  • @kiwi5891
    @kiwi5891 10 месяцев назад

    may i ask how much haste you have with the gearsetup shown in the video?

    • @whispyr5793
      @whispyr5793  10 месяцев назад

      no clue, I don't really look at my stats ever and my gear on ptr is just thrown together new tier bonus + new trinkets

  • @VividVoid
    @VividVoid 10 месяцев назад

    Do you share things like your weakauras or plater profile?

    • @whispyr5793
      @whispyr5793  10 месяцев назад +1

      wago.io/p/Whispyr all here

    • @VividVoid
      @VividVoid 10 месяцев назад

      @@whispyr5793 Ty kind soul

  • @OnionRingsM
    @OnionRingsM 10 месяцев назад

    The rotation looks so fun but the dmg is just so low on 5 targets compared to other classes even in 10.1.7. How does it scale into 8-12 targets?

    • @whispyr5793
      @whispyr5793  10 месяцев назад

      idk damage seems good to me, I was dunking warlocks in keys.
      Assa is reduced after 5 targets on everything so I guess it scales just as well into 8 target as any other 5-target-reduced spec, it's all square root scaling

    • @dirtymightmusic5239
      @dirtymightmusic5239 10 месяцев назад

      I have not tested it in actual keys on ptr since the performance over there is pretty bad for me.
      However doing some tests on the training dummy I am almost doing the same damage on 5target dummies now as I do on live servers on my sub rogue. I only pushed to 22s this season on my sub but I am top damage in my keys over 90% of the time. So if assa can come close to this damage I wont be complaining especially after what abomination assa was up until 10.1.7.
      Yes 5target dummy cleave is not directly comparable to what you will actually be doing in keys but even being able to somewhat compete to sub is a godsent.
      On live my peak assa burst dps is lower than my regular sub rogue dps without cooldowns. So even being able to be compared to other classes is a big W for assa :D

  • @chrismassey4950
    @chrismassey4950 10 месяцев назад

    Whispyr can you post your weakarua for sin?

  • @executebot
    @executebot 10 месяцев назад

    Hey Whispyr can you make a guide on what macros you use or have on your bars

    • @whispyr5793
      @whispyr5793  10 месяцев назад

      uh, I could, but it's going to be very very short I'm going to be honest. My deathmark has potion macro'd to it, and I have a mouseover macro for my tricks of the trade, and that's really it, the rest is just PTR testing nonsense

  • @bellous1
    @bellous1 10 месяцев назад

    are you able to provide a link to addon/skin you use for your plates?

    • @whispyr5793
      @whispyr5793  10 месяцев назад

      wago.io/p/Whispyr

    • @whispyr5793
      @whispyr5793  10 месяцев назад

      my entire ui is public on wago

  • @hunternewberry5860
    @hunternewberry5860 10 месяцев назад

    do we really have to lose the melee range talent for assassin in M+?

    • @whispyr5793
      @whispyr5793  10 месяцев назад

      I mean you can take it at a dps loss if you'd like. Acrobatic Strikes is a very powerful utility point that often gives dps, so the trade off is there

    • @hunternewberry5860
      @hunternewberry5860 10 месяцев назад

      @@whispyr5793 yea lot of bladestorming mobs like in bracken can only be safely hit with that range.
      I wonder how much of that is in the new M+ dungeons. Im not familiar with them

  • @xpflutebox
    @xpflutebox 10 месяцев назад

    how worth is maintaining caustic outside of cds?

    • @whispyr5793
      @whispyr5793  10 месяцев назад +1

      very worth it, it's a large part of your damage. When you're target swapping all over the place to cast bleeds it's a little tricky, but if you aren't swapping every 3 seconds, caustic is prio #1

  • @cyrilpeyer5584
    @cyrilpeyer5584 10 месяцев назад

    Got 0 haste on PTR, Single Target is a pain than. Will it get better with around 1000 or 2000 haste? 😅

    • @whispyr5793
      @whispyr5793  10 месяцев назад

      haste does not significantly impact the speed of the rotation

    • @cyrilpeyer5584
      @cyrilpeyer5584 10 месяцев назад

      But the energy management. no chance to keep up envenom and set bonus...@@whispyr5793

  • @izuya.
    @izuya. 10 месяцев назад

    why drop iron wire D:: its so good and fun to see when we gorrote out of stealth and simply silence the target

    • @whispyr5793
      @whispyr5793  10 месяцев назад

      people fiend for damage a lot, I don't agree with it much

  • @vmmramos
    @vmmramos 9 месяцев назад

    Can you share your plater settings ?

  • @Julesy-zw4bq
    @Julesy-zw4bq 10 месяцев назад

    i cant believe you think this new play style is "Fine" its horrible compare to live. Its way more busy work compared to pre dragonfight without IC

    • @whispyr5793
      @whispyr5793  10 месяцев назад +2

      sorry you feel like that. I don't quite understand how it's more busy work when carnage exists and caustic enables all your single target cooldowns to cleave, but I'm personally a big fan

  • @HumorOfANerd
    @HumorOfANerd 9 месяцев назад

    im finding keeping my dots up very difficult.

  • @VryCAFN8D
    @VryCAFN8D 10 месяцев назад

    is there new embellishments for sin?

    • @whispyr5793
      @whispyr5793  10 месяцев назад

      sporecloak is new, but we're probably still running boots

  • @alucard7615
    @alucard7615 10 месяцев назад

    The dps is low my 445 ilvl sub doing more dps kinda sad to see this

  • @kiracite
    @kiracite 10 месяцев назад

    HIYA!

  • @JimsleGend
    @JimsleGend 9 месяцев назад

    bro I want ur weak aura or addon show garrote tea I want sorry my english bad :D

  • @Niztheundead
    @Niztheundead 10 месяцев назад

    Where loaf

  • @hazztalent
    @hazztalent 10 месяцев назад

    Looks great! Do you have a link to your weakauras and plater ? Thanks heaps

    • @whispyr5793
      @whispyr5793  10 месяцев назад +1

      all up on my wago
      wago.io/p/Whispyr
      might be missing some stuff as I fiddle with it, but will all be up to date for 10.2 when it comes around