I really love watching these discussions. As an Australian archaeology student, with a very deep rooted passion for origin stories, it's frustrating knowing how much is being withheld from us at university. They're still teaching the pyramids are tombs, we don't hear about any of this amazing research. And when we ask questions we are reminded to remain within the appropriate boundaries, and outside of that, it's pseudoarchaeology, and it's unwelcome. The work of Ben and Robert, and many others, is as valuable to me as my degree, and I CAN NOT WAIT to be a part of this new wave of Knowledge Keepers 🙏 Thank you.
How are you a student at university for archeology and you believe Ben??? I’ll link you a team of ACTUAL archeologists in Russia who make these vases regularly with Stone Age and Bronze Age tools ….surely if you are studying archeology you’ve come studies that Petrie just lied about what Ben is referencing…it’s well known among archeologists how those vases were made…granted we don’t have a perfect history …but I feel really sorry for you if you are studying and think Ben is anything but a grifter…I can back up everything I’m saying..but I’m sure I’ll get censored or blocked before they let me do that
@@maguslor3290 Clearly you havent looked into any of Ben's videos. if you measure those handmade vases they will not have the same precision of a few microns and they will not follow a radial traversal pattern. Another mainstream sheep.
Are they on you tube?@maguslor3290 Just drop a link that leaves out the www and also do 2 spaces between the long address. We can copy and paste and move the address back together. Tia
Will someone PLEASE tell REG he sucks all of the air out of the room, talks over his guests and always manages to turn the conversation into a monologue about HIM and HIS STUFF?!
Love this mans work, I’m a geologist from UConn myself, this I what I envision myself doing for humanity professionally. The rewriting of history is approaching
Love to see you talk with Library of the Untold someday. love to see you guys do a podcast episode. Love the work Robert and Ben. We are all cooking something good.
Please do an episode on the Barabar Caves out in India. Your mathematical mind and ability to clearly convey the information would make for a great talk.
Following up on comments about Barbara Caven, I'm interested in the geometry, therefore sound resonance of the 9 SRI YANTRA triangles. A musical chime to enlighten ones mind∆∆∆
I bet Ben cannot calculate how far the Great Pyramid was visible when completed. I can tell the answer, but he cannot do anything with it. It's 26.8 american units. Edit: fixed typo on the number
Seeing people I’ve followed for a few years converging, sharing their wisdom and findings with each other is just…amazing. Thanks to guys like these, and the collaboration that continues to happen, we get closer and closer to discovering some truths of our past.
Yeah they are not discovering anything new, this hoax is from early last century getting recycled, when actual archeologist are siffing sand on Egypt. Go figure. Maybe take a look on how science is done, and not take their word for it. If you are an enthusiast, get both sides.
Sadly, when trying to link people involved in this work by suggesting RUclips videos made by other researchers, the posts tend to get blocked. I don't know if RUclips is doing the blocking or the researchers themselves, while trying to hold on to fans. The research would progress much faster if RUclips links were in place!
@lynnehaywood5305 I think it's the hosts of the channels who are deleting these information links because they want us to stay on their channel as long as possible. I notice sometimes if I remove the link and reword the reference to be very indirect, it does not get deleted.
@@GriftPolice I see nothing wrong with entertaining the thoughts and ideas of people who dive into these subjects. I’m not simply taking everything at face value; listening and seeing things at any angle I can allows me to form my own perspective. A humble man wouldn’t assume someone they do not know needs to learn a lesson based on a comment out of appreciation, nor look down upon the stranger as if they were ignorant. But thanks for your input.
This was absolutely beautiful!! The best one so far with the depth that the conversation went. Two expanded awareness's collaborating, discovering and sharing.
You guys are 100 percent on track with the vases having function. They most definitely had to have had a very important function for them to be so precise
that was noble of you Ben. could only make it a short way through but from what i saw you showed this guy patience and humility. think he just has a different 'aproach' to these topics then your supporters out here who know how much you are trying to bring attention to these legitimate anomalies and basically force the Orthodoxy to use the most cutting edge analytical tools on their own collections....keep up the good fight, cheers!
So pleased to hear you use the true 24,000 year cycle Robert - unlike most other people who are still saying the cycle is 26,000 years because they don't take into consideration the speeding up of the cycle. I was hoping to discuss this with Ben when I met him in London but the pub we were in was too noisy to discuss anything of importance. Good to meet him though. Not so sure about your discovery of petroglyphs Robert. Staring at those pyramid walls, looking for shapes is rather like the game of looking at cloud formations. I could see other designs and words while you were pointing out what you could see, so I want further evidence that the zodiac is depicted on the Kings Chamber walls. It would be excellent if true. However, I see people on the walls near the shaft that the robot wandered through but as no one else ever comments on that, I decided it must be my brain playing tricks. Regarding the walls where you are seeing petroglyphs. It is thought that most pyramid walls were coated with a substance to protect them. That substance is now very patchy and therefore it creates shapes that our brains can’t help but piece into animal shapes. The coating on the Great Pyramid walls is Calcium Sulphate. The coating on the Red Pyramid consists of Sulfur Trioxide, Silicon Dioxide and Aluminium Trioxide. Both the Great Pyramid and the Red Pyramid were coated with compounds that were self-repairing during the original use of the pyramids, which in all likelihood, was the manufacture of chemicals.
Robert, again this was LEGENDARY!! Fellow Aussie, so also thrilled to see him on your show! Absolute truth…we all have pieces of the truth that can essentially put the whole story together. I just loved the conversation and I will be saving this one for a re listen!
I`ll be honest here, a lot of the markings etc on the walls in The Kings Chamber could be Pareidolia, usually visual, so that one detects an object, pattern, or meaning where there is none. Having said that i do recall a tale from years ago where some one who visited the pyramid hundreds of years ago claiming to have seen paintings, inscriptions or some other kind of decoration on the walls that over time became faded either due to salt or moisture build up. You could just be seeing what you want to see here, but then again if certain zodiac symbols appear on their respective walls, IE, North, South, East or West then i find that very interesting. I certainly believe the great pyramid is thousands if not tens of thousands of years older than we are led to believe, as is the Sphinx and especially all those jars found at Saqqara that Ben and Chris Dunn are in the process of examining, huge fan of Ben`s channel and i`ve followed Christopher Dunn`s work since he published The Giza Power Plant book.
Entraining the water (in the sounding chambers) for particular healing or activation is very intriguing. As the human body is made up of about 60-75% water. Apprecaite this ThinkTank conversation and where it is leading.
Yes, seems like there are lots of healing modalities coming back to light. Entraining in a chamber out of the way of outside interference seems extra useful. Living away from interference seems like a good idea, as our bodies are made up of mostly water, as well, like living up on a mountain...
People have been trying to get Ben to look into Geoffry's work and the ISIDA project for a while and its weird he never mentions it. www.youtube.com/@thelandofchem/videos
i started watching land of chem in the beginning and was amazed by his fresh take on things but after a few episodes he called Ben and others Charlatans in the comments ,and that was conformation for me for the narcisistic tendencies i noticed in his first episodes so couldnt bare to watch it anymore
This is profoundly interesting !! Quite a bit above my educational nuance, however if I listen repeatedly more becomes understandable. Thank you for this.
I would love to hear Robert and Jason (ARCHAIX) discuss the great pyramid on a mathematical level because Jason's research and charts are off the scale brilliant.
GREAT PYRAMID BUILT BY GOD'S GOOD ANGELS. EMPTY TOMB PREPARES US FOR EMPTY TOMB OF JESUS. ISAIAH 19:19 "There be an Altar to Jehovah in the midst of the land of Egypt, and a Pillar at the border." THE GREAT PYRAMID IS IN THE MIDDLE OF EGYPT AND AT THE BORDER OF 'UPPER AND LOWER EGYPT."
It is a bit depressing when you see all this stuff and most of people in the world have no clue, they cant even imagine what happened, because it is totally surpressed. There was something really big going on here on earth. ❤
Scary at the same time. As if those who held the secrets now know they cannot suppress it anymore but by a nuclear holocaust. Now I'm sorry I left Australia for Europe, cause Aussies will be ok.
The amount of interesting and neat topics and such awesome things I learn while watching and listening to these discussions/podcasts of these amazingly smart scientists, is astronomical and far more than I've ever and could ever have learned in all 12 grades of schooling
„It is the cycle of cataclysm“ -„Yes“ (1:33:40) is when I paused and thought I tell you, how cool you are, besides of course I was very impressed by youre other great contributions. Thanks for your work and dedication!
While watching this podcast, A thought occurred to me. so we are aware of the orientation of the great pyramid being ever so slightly off from true North could it be possible that during its construction it was indeed set to absolute true north, but due to its advanced alleged age That Continental drift caused it to get out of absolute true north orientation. Just a crazy thought
A great deal of strange events have happened to Planet Earth since the Great Pyramid was built, so it was most likely set to the true north of its time.
I can assure you it was pointing exactly where they wanted it to be pointed at the time of its construction. Whether that was exactly true north or slightly off we will never know
A pyramid does not "point" to anything, it is not an arrow. It has 4 sides and most probably the Egyptians aligned one of the sides based on the Sun, whose trajectory they could observe in the sky everyday. So basically one of the sides was "aligned" with either west or east and since the pyramid base is a square, it follows that one the sides was necessarily "aligned" with north... This is not rocket science Now the sides are not exactly equal in length with the biggest difference being some 4 cm or a couple of inches (so those laser pointers or other high tech stuff that Ben and his ilk claims they had were not that precise)
I really loved this think tank! What incredible research from Ben Van Kerwykk! I loved your idea Robert, that the vessels could be used for healing through the vibration and frequency that they have transmitted to the water that they could hold. Yes! I had a fun vision that many many vessels of all shapes and materials that have been made were placed in all of the nooks and crannies of the pyramid, filled with water at different levels, and the master musician would play them through emitting their own vibrations and directing certain qualities of their vibration to the different vessels, like a conductor of a symphony- and it could instantly transform the space into other dimensions and timelines. It could be a symphony of sound that could heal people in its presence, but even later when the water from the vessels were consumed, just as you said. Imagine all of the possibilities of sound and variation depending on where the vessels were placed in combination with the architecture of the pyramid and even how much water was in each one. This master musician/conductor reminded me of how alligators perform their water dance through their vibration and frequency emitting capabilities.
The rooms of Barabara in India have precision similar to these vases. These rooms are huge there is seven of them I believe and they're literally cut out or I should say hollowed out in granite. Wonder if it's the same people that made these vases
@@RealKlausSchwab Would have to agree. Thinking about it is absolutely insane. I would love to know how in the hell they were able to create those rooms with such precision and why.
The same people, of course... they made vases... then they rested for a couple of thousand years, moved to India for a change of scenery and decided for their next challenge to make caves...
True Egyptology-wise - The Lecture of the Year!!!!! and a Rare one - Ben in the Corner ..... a half-hearted YES(so it sounded to me on top of not even a mumbled Yes on several occasions) - FUN-tastic - Thanks to both of you!!!! I have seen all Ben s videos - now I have to see Robert have done!!!!!!!!!!! I saw a number of them now - PRECIOUS!!!!!
The thing about this rock texture is that the eye can sometimes see what it wants to see. You could see several images in that rock if you shifted your focus. The alpha/omega carved out is amazing!
This was an extremely good watch, and I find it quite fascinating you chose the upload it on the new years eve (not the gregorian one ^^). Thank you for this delightful conversation, I've followed both you and Ben for some while now so to see you both come together and talk and connect a lots of bits of info together was fantastic and informative in the ways I enjoy. I look forward to future collaborations between you two. This might be the most open and direct I have witnessed either of you in conversation, it felt like you both found opportunity to communicate at your highest levels on subjects you are passionate about, and it really worked well. Having saw your discovery of etchings before, it's still befuddling that we've completely overlooked them, and that to hear you've the ability to experience walking through the scans is fantastic. This is my first time hearing of the decans of the zodiac, that will be fun looking into further
The reason car companies can produce the elaborate surfaces we see on cars and vehicles of all kinds is the ability to divide a second into a billion parts . Data sets containing many millions of points in 3d space makes analyzing these items possible. Then the frequency aspect adds another dimension to this amazing topic
Vases as sound frequency amplifiers brilliant sir....dont forget most of the 1st instruments ever made came from Egypt ...maybe theres a connection? Keep up the great work......the puzzle is being put together and the out come will be one of the greatest discoveries in humankind history.....thank u.
Awesome conversation! I hope you’ll be able to speak with Bob Greenyer at some point 😊 He’s been researching the Fractal Toroidal Moment and its function in Fusion/Stellar Synthesis. He’s connected so much sacred geometry across many cultures that all are describing this Toroidal Moment. He’s got a very interesting hypothesis for the function of the great pyramid. And had also proposed that an additional chamber would be found above the gallery.
And I am watching at 3:33 pm🥰❣️Am always fascinated with all things Egyptian. Am connected with THOTH, Hathor, Isis, Ra, And have had many Waking Visions connected with Egypt…Have been to the Archeological museum in Istanbul, Turkey. There is a Giant Black sarcophagus there as well as a large section of the Wall of Babylon. It is a beautiful blue tiled wall with Lions on it🙏🏼💙.
Robert...there are xrays..imprints..etched...pictures everywhere. I have found such precise etchings of figures in rocks, on trees, leaves, etc.I call it the travelling universal laser or camera that records everything. Newspapers if looked at closely with the right light/lens has imprint upon imprint of past civilizations. It's remarkable. So glad you are seeing this.
13:44 absolutely, when Ben says "at this level you don't know if you're dealing with imprecision of scan" or surface damage - I chip in and say that even the remnants of fatty deposits made by humans touching the surface must play a role in these imperfections.
While Chris Dunn is brilliant & a trailblazer, once you see The Land Of Chem’s channel, you can’t unsee it. With all due respect to Dunn, the pyramid operates in an opposite manner than he suggests. Quite literally an inverse-piezoelectric effect, not a piezoelectric effect. The energy input was lightning strikes, not earthquake machine. The pyramids are built into the bedrock ON an iron vein that disperses the energy. The iron vein runs beneath ALL the structures on the plateau, connecting them. This is a giant sonochemical processing plant. There are also healing chambers in his theory. I could type 5 more paragraphs. I found his channel about a month ago and still haven’t gotten through all his content. Hundreds of hours of absolutely compelling content.
Quite! I have seen all the 'Land of Chem' videos. Geoffrey Drumm doesn't get the followers he deserves but his work is the most compelling answer to why the pyramids were built. The entire site was a vast Chemical Plant. However, Geofrey is still of the opinion that ancient Egyptian technology was capable of creating the site and I don't accept that to be possible.
The picture of the East wall of the kings chamber (1:11:23) has a striking resemblance, in my opinion, to pillar 43 at Gobekli Tepe. Anyone else notice this??
That was fascinating! I love listening to Robert talk about the pyramids and his discoveries. Robert has an enthusiasm that is wonderful to hear. Ancient history is so interesting. I have seen Robert present the pictures on the walls of the pyramids on Next Level Soul also. It was fascinating then and still fascinating to see what is there. Thanks for the interview and the sharing of the knowledge.
Hi Robert, Have you heard about the guys destroying Cancer cells with frequencies? It turns out that for it work the frequencies need to 1:11, dual freq., specific to the cancers' vibration. Your work with ratios 9:1 - 528:432 might also have an effect if broadcast together ... also, are they not also resonant chakra frequencies?
Machining tolerances between 0.02 and 0.005 are concidered achievable using hand tools in metal. It requires super precise measuring instruments that are made within 0.001 inches though... Below 0.005 inches you need somekind of precision powertool such as lathes and milling machines. You still need the precision measuring instruments (calipers, micro meters, machiner's block, height gauge, ect) to know where you are at during the process. I have done manual maching and automated/manual precision machining and hmm... I'd be very curious to measure these vases myself, but from what i've seen, i cant imagine how they would make these without what we have today. What about the non precises vases? Are there any? What are the tolerances? How many precise vases over messed vases?
Using modern machines like a precision lathe, we can only replicate a vase's exterior or interior, but not both. That is, only if we used the same material as the original vases (granite or any stone in general). The reason is that the walls of these vases are so thin and if we attempted to replicate them, the centrifugal force would destroy the work if you turn it at the speed required to cut this material. There are examples of these vases that are as thin as a credit card. No machine or technique today would allow us to replicate them in the same material. Not to mention the problem of how you would even hold the fragile work in a lathe without crushing it.
@@vadimbellous8313 of course the interior is possible to machine with a lathe.... Have you ever used one? I know some of these vase are very thin... You have to increase the rotation speed and put minimal force on the cutting tool... Very fragile, but not impossible. You seem like you speak through your hat sir. Have a good one.
go to Ben's RUclips Channel UnchartedX. He has great break downs of the vases that you can look at, and listen to explanations of details. The non precise vases are made from alabasta which is a much softer stone for carving than the granite and other materials used for percision vases, which are very hard stones. Even still with the softer stone many of the vases are easily visibly impercise, and often painted to imitate the granite vases, and even the most beautiful perfect examples are not close to the percision of these vases. They're made from the hardest materials, made the most precise, and are the oldest vases. There were over 16000 of these percision vases under the bent pyramid alone, but due to their historical significance are not readily available for study. (as in being controlled and kept away from research) I don't know any numbers for impercise vases, but the point being made is that these percision vases are not overly rare, were actually kinda abundant, were prized and collected going back at least as far as the predynastic eygptians. The later eygptians prized and Immitated them with the alabasta vases, going as far as to paint them to look similar. Clearly these vases were known by the eygptians to be amazing, and we are studying them here today and seeing insane percision, encoded ratio/math/understanding. What we are seeing is that our ancestors were far greater in the past than we ever realized, that we had amazing technical ability and understanding, seemingly beyond our own understanding. modern man can be arrogant assuming himself to be the pinnacle, most advanced ever, but we are literally only now becoming advanced enough to understand how deeply and profoundly our ancestors understood reality. we constantly learn new things, only to realize ancient symbolisms already were showing or telling us that. Yet only by learning advanced things, and then seeing it in the ruins of the past, are we called to realize how advanced and sophisticated the past was/is.
So the vase is basically concentric circles made out of a rock that amplifies energy… maybe if a certain tone is played it would resinate in the vase which would amplify its energy opening a doorway. Or maybe it’s for multiple uses and liquid poured inside would be energetically transformed for healing. Just the first things to pop into my head after learning about the patterns. Very interesting 🤔. Upon listening further looks like i was pretty accurate. Kinda blew my mind. The see through ones are probably batteries. Water in contact with a hydrophilic surface creates a negatively charged zone and quartz is hydrophilic. Water past the exclusion zone is positively charged. That means a quartz vessel with water would have both negative and positive charge. if electrodes were placed inside it would produce unlimited energy when in sunlight.
Yaaa just coming into this podcast, I have a feeling it’s going to be amazing, Ben archiving and recording the ancient artifacts and Robert with a very keen understanding about math and sacred geometry
This awakening is refreshing but it's just revealing more remnants of a golden age. We're just now getting a chance to marvel at all the lost knowledge
I love your readings Jimmy and watch them all the time. This is very true for me, and yes, I am very grateful for all I have and do my best to raise the vibration of others at every opportunity. I have been noticing how this raises mine and gives back what I give out. It’s beautiful ❤️
That artwork actually resembles the art at gobekli tepe almost right on, that is very strange, perhaps theres a link to the sphynx given it dates to almost the exact same time frame. I think one big thing everyone is missing on the jars is that it is clearly machined, precision machined, which implies a lot of things, tools, concepts, techniques etc. For example the fact that with a lathe can create another lathe, which leads into the concepts of mass production, standardization, scaling, gears, automation, material sciences, etc. Something ill add is that to make such a machine it would be robust, its a working tool, it needs to handle many cycles, you would not build such a device out of brass, nor would you be able to machine stones using brass, interestingly enough they have found an iron dagger made of a meteor, I think there is clearly a link to iron and steel, diamond carbide even tooling. This can be tested because on the smallest vases the tool holder would need to be able to fit inside and still function which dictates properties and measurements which can be testing in the real world. Thats eye opening for sure that art work is nothing like the egyptian artwork definitely from a different people in my opinion.
There is evidence that ancient Egyptians used arsenic copper which is a very strong metal BUT the so called vases, found in their thousands, were manufactured by a method as yet unknown to us in 2024.
Your process of deduction is very clear to me.I went to Cairo 5 years ago,just before covid,it wasn't far after there Arab Spring.Not hardly any tourist,a family took me in.He was friends with the people at the pyramids who have the animals horses camel donkeys,or whatever.I didn't study what all that was in the barns but the people were very kind to me and we sat on the floor and had a good meal and exchange.Back to the bowls,ive done a lot of turning on various lathes,pottery welding.anyhow just looking at those things I could see they were machined very preside.And the mummies,think about it.To have the knowledge of chemistry to even preserve anything for some time must include quiet a wide range of knowhow.I went to Gobekli Tepi.,going to look for myself just clarified an understanding about the human timeliness.Hard too use the words that suit the situation.For the bit of money and time,the returns are immeasurable. Take care good luck with your endevour
Of course. Makes complete sense... They had a super advanced tech and used it to make..... vases... Once they were done with their vases they used their disintegrating tech to destroy all the tools and machines, just to confuse us.. Then they destroyed all the records.. And then they disintegrated themselves... which is why we cannot find anything to support these kinds of theories... These practical jokers were very clever
Please do a presentation regarding Barabar in India. The precision of the vases reminds me of the precision of the hollowed out granite rooms of Barabar.
Wow what a concept... The stone vases can release information by having the correct fluid levels and vibrational frequencies played thru them, maybe a video plays or sound is released when the crystals are activated in the proper manor... There were studies about the Sabu disk & sound waves...
The hidden art is a real thing, a thing one has to be attuned to. Once you've seen it, you'll be looking for it. If you have not seen it, it will be hard to imagine that there is a need to search for it. I see it. Somebody in the ancient past knew it too, and tried to eliminate most all of it. When they defaced Karnak they missed some (tiny stars) and it goes largely unnoticed still to this day. They are original and survived, but so small as not to be noticed. What makes them important? is that the tool that made them, never dulled. How long does your special knife hold it's edge against granite? mine dulls immediately. The tools they had make fools of our tools and some of the best researchers in the world. So do diamonds lose the the tip when used on granite ? I think they do, but I can't afford diamonds to do the tests
Ben, your a smart guy, dont falll for everything. this guys wacked. I read Winchester's book too, and a geologist, and a metal sculptor. get in touch! I have a few solid ideas.
40 minutes in and listening to you both chatting about the ratios and resonances, and the mention of 216, which happens to be half of 432 (Hz. sonic geometry), it made me think of another of my favourite videos, Carl Munck - The Code, the 5-hour version.. Not sure if you've seen it, but i find that video fascinating, and i've lost count how many times i've watched it.. He seemed to have found a mathematical formula that links a lot of these structures. He shows a relation between the dimensions of the structures and their grid location on a globe using the Great Pyramid as the base meridian, not the Greenwich one that is used in more modern times.. He called this geomathematics.. He shows how the structures are apparently built as mathematical equations... Now i've just heard you chatting about the structures maybe having resonant frequencies also, i'm wondering if the frequencies of the structures and the artefacts themselves have any kind of relation to the part of the planet in which they are located... I mean, could there be a reason why a particular structure or artefact could have a more meaningful resonance at a certain location on the planet? It's hard to put in to words what i am trying to convey.. But i think i've waffled enough for one comment.... Great video by the way...
My general problem with the 432Hz thing is that it doesn’t make sense musically. Whenever someone talks about this it is NOT a mathematical scale, simply pitchning down the 440Hz scale with 8Hz. So going up an octave is still just 880 minus 8 and not 432x2, it’s a huge difference. When you use 432 and you use it as a mathetamtical base (so one octave up will be 864Hz) then the whole thing completely falls apart, there is no more harmony, no more musicality so it simply does not work, it becomes a non-musical chaos that hurts your ears like hell.
You've got a point.... Personally, i'm not that musical so i only know what i've seen and not heard... I mention it because it does make sense when demonstrating cymatics, 440 is messy... I'm just going by the fact that we're approx 70% water, so i can sorta see how that could be useful.... Also, i first saw 432 mentioned on the Sonic Geometry video... It was one of many frequencies on what was called the factor 9 grid... It's a great video, i highly recommend it... Then there's the fact it was what was used originally... It was used for a very long time also... The more i think about it, the more reasons i can see why it was used. But as you said, mathematically, maybe it doesn't make sense, i'm certainly no one to judge. I just find it all very interesting. Because 432 appears a lot in my quest for knowledge.. Another fact mentioned in that Sonic Geometry video i mentioned, it also relates to the Sun and Moon... It's a number that makes remembering the diameter of both very easy.. Thank you for your comment, it's given me something else to think about. Ta...
Has anyone else come across the man with the youtube channel exploring his theory that the pyramids and the whole culture surrounded chemistry? That the pyramids were made to create chemicals? It’s actually unbelievably well vetted already and is really quite compelling. There’s innumerable and vast amounts of evidence.
@@PAUL1sLOVE just wanted to say thanks for the reply, i was on a trip so it came late. But yep thats the guy and its a sincerely fantastic theory. I honestly believe hes got it. Or at least pushed us way closer to knowing. I would love to get bens take on it. They definitely need to address it.
@@JimmyKlef Those 'unsolvable mysteries of the pyramids' guys can ignore it all they want, and I am 100%sure Graham Hancock knows about the ISIDA project and never mentions it, when he's on Joe the Toe Rogan. In the end the truth reveals itself.
Just a thought that popped into my head. The vessels with handles i'm sure had some sorta rod going through these 'handles' which were then hooked up to some machine that vibrated the vessels, and its contents.
I disagree, mostly because the holes are much less precise than the rest of the vase, which implies that it was done by a different person with a much less sophisticated manufacturing process and abilities. Alot of the vases don't even have holes in the lug handles as well.
Need to get " Land of Chem" RUclipsr on here, he has a chemical production hypothesis for egypt pyramids with very compelling evidence, my new favorite hypothesis, Chris Dunn is #2 for me 🤪
Is there a scrubbing them walls inside the chamber with super acid or some sort of abrasive material... that would lead one to believe that they're trying to deface the surface of the chamber...... remove what is on the walls...... so no one has any idea of what is there.. then my question becomes who was the one that started scrubbing the walls??? Why is it so important to someone?? To remove everything it is there??? Thank you for all the work you're doing thank you for bringing the info to the world...❤
It's a variety of reasons that are used for scrubbing the pyramid walls. Egyptian authorities want them clear of the salts that formed on them, plus the bat droppings etc could be a health hazard. Many tourists pass through the pyramids every day and health has to be considered. The fact that cleaning the pyramids damages them doesn't seem to concern those in charge who for the most part want to preserve the idea that the pyramids were tombs, because it is good for tourism. I believe Egypt would have even more tourists if the alternative information was more widely known but I also believe Egypt is wasted on the Egyptians.
Through some research I've learned that in Egypt people considered South to be the head and North at the feet (which actually electro-magnetically makes sense as we are using convention and not the experimentally measured direction). And left hand being East and right hand being West. So they considered looking downward towards Earth from Heavens above.
wonder id the air pressure was different way back then, the earth teluric currents more tangible, so the vases functionality may have to factor in that to discover use. Having 30000 vases in one place may suggest they were used only once for specific " healing" of specific condition...just a few thoughts to add to the mix. Great chat guys.
More likely the vases were stored underground with many other items to save them from one of Earth's cataclysms. Only granite would survive for the thousands of years that have since passed.
What I find really Interesting is the exact same harmonic mathematical formula used in these Documented predynastic vases as the pyramids, which would mean the pyramids are far older!!
I’m very curious if Robert and @unchartedX are familiar with the comprehensive work of Geoffrey Drumm @Thelandofchem regarding the functions of all of the pyramids as well as the serapheum of ancient Egypt? If not please take a deep dive he presents the most convincing theory of their multifaceted functions that I’ve seen
I did raise the subject of Geoffrey's 'Land of Chem' work with Ben when I met him in London. It was very noisy in the pub where I was hoping to have a proper conversation with Ben but I got the impression that Geoffrey and his Chemical Plant theory were to be dismissed. For me, the work of Geoffrey Drumm throws light on why the pyramids were built and his chemical analysis is the icing on the cake. Giza was a vast Chemical Plant.
I really love watching these discussions. As an Australian archaeology student, with a very deep rooted passion for origin stories, it's frustrating knowing how much is being withheld from us at university. They're still teaching the pyramids are tombs, we don't hear about any of this amazing research. And when we ask questions we are reminded to remain within the appropriate boundaries, and outside of that, it's pseudoarchaeology, and it's unwelcome. The work of Ben and Robert, and many others, is as valuable to me as my degree, and I CAN NOT WAIT to be a part of this new wave of Knowledge Keepers 🙏 Thank you.
I support you my friend
How are you a student at university for archeology and you believe Ben??? I’ll link you a team of ACTUAL archeologists in Russia who make these vases regularly with Stone Age and Bronze Age tools ….surely if you are studying archeology you’ve come studies that Petrie just lied about what Ben is referencing…it’s well known among archeologists how those vases were made…granted we don’t have a perfect history …but I feel really sorry for you if you are studying and think Ben is anything but a grifter…I can back up everything I’m saying..but I’m sure I’ll get censored or blocked before they let me do that
@@maguslor3290 Clearly you havent looked into any of Ben's videos. if you measure those handmade vases they will not have the same precision of a few microns and they will not follow a radial traversal pattern. Another mainstream sheep.
Are they on you tube?@maguslor3290
Just drop a link that leaves out the www and also do 2 spaces between the long address. We can copy and paste and move the address back together. Tia
@maguslor3290 you funny
Ben Kerkwyk is so polite. What a master of his emotions. Stellar interview.
yes because you know he was thinking mate you have lost the plot lol
yes. the deep breaths.
A proper host allows their guest to finish his own thoughts, without interrupting.
Will someone PLEASE tell REG he sucks all of the air out of the room, talks over his guests and always manages to turn the conversation into a monologue about HIM and HIS STUFF?!
Love this mans work, I’m a geologist from UConn myself, this I what I envision myself doing for humanity professionally. The rewriting of history is approaching
We need much more cross disciplinary research. Cooperation!
He's a con man and full of shit.
Are you any good? Sounds like you missed most of your classes.
@@birushinobi did you even go to college? Considering you make low ball insults towards people you don’t know? Fucking pathetic troll
You mean the University of Conmen? This whole show is a con
Love to see you talk with Library of the Untold someday. love to see you guys do a podcast episode. Love the work Robert and Ben. We are all cooking something good.
Fr I love his videos
YES
Robert please make this a possibility
I am all for this. You guys could have some great discussions!
Been stop Che Chenitza
Please do an episode on the Barabar Caves out in India.
Your mathematical mind and ability to clearly convey the information would make for a great talk.
The B.A.M. project has a video on the Barabar, also ben promotes the video on his uncharted x podcast on RUclips.
@@barrykotek2257 right, seen in 3 times. Don't you think it'd be interesting to have Robert break it down a bit?
@@ImEnemy608 With his knowledge of music I think it'd be a good match. I'm sure he's seen this though
Following up on comments about Barbara Caven, I'm interested in the geometry, therefore sound resonance of the 9 SRI YANTRA triangles. A musical chime to enlighten ones mind∆∆∆
I bet Ben cannot calculate how far the Great Pyramid was visible when completed.
I can tell the answer, but he cannot do anything with it. It's 26.8 american units.
Edit: fixed typo on the number
Seeing people I’ve followed for a few years converging, sharing their wisdom and findings with each other is just…amazing. Thanks to guys like these, and the collaboration that continues to happen, we get closer and closer to discovering some truths of our past.
Yeah they are not discovering anything new, this hoax is from early last century getting recycled, when actual archeologist are siffing sand on Egypt. Go figure. Maybe take a look on how science is done, and not take their word for it. If you are an enthusiast, get both sides.
Sadly, when trying to link people involved in this work by suggesting RUclips videos made by other researchers, the posts tend to get blocked. I don't know if RUclips is doing the blocking or the researchers themselves, while trying to hold on to fans. The research would progress much faster if RUclips links were in place!
@@lynnehaywood5305 You think they are doing research? They are traveling around the world with yall's money pointing stones.
@lynnehaywood5305
I think it's the hosts of the channels who are deleting these information links because they want us to stay on their channel as long as possible. I notice sometimes if I remove the link and reword the reference to be very indirect, it does not get deleted.
@@GriftPolice I see nothing wrong with entertaining the thoughts and ideas of people who dive into these subjects. I’m not simply taking everything at face value; listening and seeing things at any angle I can allows me to form my own perspective. A humble man wouldn’t assume someone they do not know needs to learn a lesson based on a comment out of appreciation, nor look down upon the stranger as if they were ignorant. But thanks for your input.
This was absolutely beautiful!! The best one so far with the depth that the conversation went. Two expanded awareness's collaborating, discovering and sharing.
You guys are 100 percent on track with the vases having function. They most definitely had to have had a very important function for them to be so precise
Are you not aware of what vases are used for ?
@@thomasxxxxxx2345 no idea
That was tough for me to take. That guy is long winded and see things that i dont see in his pics.
I feel for ya Ben!
seeing what he wants to see, no science
Agreed
😂
Maybe REG doesn’t understand the definition of interview or dialogue. That was definitely painful. I jumped ship halfway through. 🤷🏼♀️
that was noble of you Ben. could only make it a short way through but from what i saw you showed this guy patience and humility. think he just has a different 'aproach' to these topics then your supporters out here who know how much you are trying to bring attention to these legitimate anomalies and basically force the Orthodoxy to use the most cutting edge analytical tools on their own collections....keep up the good fight, cheers!
Yes his approach is intellectual
Ben was a trooper. That was straight up painful. Oophf.
Ben and Robert, just sit back and enjoy! from the Netherlands with
I love you both guys sharing with us all this huge amount of knowledge and information. Thank you.
Ben Kerkwyk’ s work is AWESOME.😊
Wonderful talk lads two of my favourites. I would love to see Bob Greenyer or Malcolm Bendall next
Sweet mother of pearl!!!!
Have been waiting for this one
Going to pe-emt. THANK YOU GENTLEMAN!
So pleased to hear you use the true 24,000 year cycle Robert - unlike most other people who are still saying the cycle is 26,000 years because they don't take into consideration the speeding up of the cycle. I was hoping to discuss this with Ben when I met him in London but the pub we were in was too noisy to discuss anything of importance. Good to meet him though.
Not so sure about your discovery of petroglyphs Robert. Staring at those pyramid walls, looking for shapes is rather like the game of looking at cloud formations. I could see other designs and words while you were pointing out what you could see, so I want further evidence that the zodiac is depicted on the Kings Chamber walls. It would be excellent if true. However, I see people on the walls near the shaft that the robot wandered through but as no one else ever comments on that, I decided it must be my brain playing tricks.
Regarding the walls where you are seeing petroglyphs. It is thought that most pyramid walls were coated with a substance to protect them. That substance is now very patchy and therefore it creates shapes that our brains can’t help but piece into animal shapes. The coating on the Great Pyramid walls is Calcium Sulphate. The coating on the Red Pyramid consists of Sulfur Trioxide, Silicon Dioxide and Aluminium Trioxide. Both the Great Pyramid and the Red Pyramid were coated with compounds that were self-repairing during the original use of the pyramids, which in all likelihood, was the manufacture of chemicals.
A different podcast has used some type of lighting to actually bring out the pictures on the wall.
This is definitely one of many Podcasts I've had the pleasure too have watched. I've hung on too every word I've heard ❤
Robert, again this was LEGENDARY!! Fellow Aussie, so also thrilled to see him on your show! Absolute truth…we all have pieces of the truth that can essentially put the whole story together. I just loved the conversation and I will be saving this one for a re listen!
I`ll be honest here, a lot of the markings etc on the walls in The Kings Chamber could be Pareidolia, usually visual, so that one detects an object, pattern, or meaning where there is none. Having said that i do recall a tale from years ago where some one who visited the pyramid hundreds of years ago claiming to have seen paintings, inscriptions or some other kind of decoration on the walls that over time became faded either due to salt or moisture build up. You could just be seeing what you want to see here, but then again if certain zodiac symbols appear on their respective walls, IE, North, South, East or West then i find that very interesting. I certainly believe the great pyramid is thousands if not tens of thousands of years older than we are led to believe, as is the Sphinx and especially all those jars found at Saqqara that Ben and Chris Dunn are in the process of examining, huge fan of Ben`s channel and i`ve followed Christopher Dunn`s work since he published The Giza Power Plant book.
Randall Carlson has been touching on that because the center of the North Pole's ice sheet was more towards the Hudson Bay.
Entraining the water (in the sounding chambers) for particular healing or activation is very intriguing. As the human body is made up of about 60-75% water. Apprecaite this ThinkTank conversation and where it is leading.
Yes, seems like there are lots of healing modalities coming back to light. Entraining in a chamber out of the way of outside interference seems extra useful. Living away from interference seems like a good idea, as our bodies are made up of mostly water, as well, like living up on a mountain...
I need that shit for my l5-s1 calcified disc
Land of Chem goes over their functions and some purposes. Worth a deep dive.
People have been trying to get Ben to look into Geoffry's work and the ISIDA project for a while and its weird he never mentions it.
www.youtube.com/@thelandofchem/videos
Yes and the chemical analysis is there too!
i started watching land of chem in the beginning and was amazed by his fresh take on things but after a few episodes he called Ben and others Charlatans in the comments ,and that was conformation for me for the narcisistic tendencies i noticed in his first episodes so couldnt bare to watch it anymore
@@gamemail5385 no one will miss you
@@PAUL1sLOVE looking at the numbers on your channel that must feel sooo familiar 😂😂
This is profoundly interesting !! Quite a bit above my educational nuance, however if I listen repeatedly more becomes understandable. Thank you for this.
I would love to hear Robert and Jason (ARCHAIX) discuss the great pyramid on a mathematical level because Jason's research and charts are off the scale brilliant.
over here thinking the same thing
Yes!
GREAT PYRAMID BUILT BY GOD'S GOOD ANGELS.
EMPTY TOMB PREPARES US FOR EMPTY TOMB OF JESUS.
ISAIAH 19:19
"There be an Altar to Jehovah in the midst of the land of Egypt, and a Pillar at the border."
THE GREAT PYRAMID IS IN THE MIDDLE OF EGYPT
AND AT THE BORDER OF 'UPPER AND LOWER EGYPT."
@@ABCXYZ-jk8meSippar
It is a bit depressing when you see all this stuff and most of people in the world have no clue, they cant even imagine what happened, because it is totally surpressed.
There was something really big going on here on earth. ❤
Scary at the same time. As if those who held the secrets now know they cannot suppress it anymore but by a nuclear holocaust. Now I'm sorry I left Australia for Europe, cause Aussies will be ok.
The amount of interesting and neat topics and such awesome things I learn while watching and listening to these discussions/podcasts of these amazingly smart scientists, is astronomical and far more than I've ever and could ever have learned in all 12 grades of schooling
Really, and what have you learned ? Aside from the well known "No one ever lost money underestimating the intelligence of the American public."
Robert, your explanation of how the vibration shifts from judgement to love was truly gold, thanks!! 🙏💫
„It is the cycle of cataclysm“ -„Yes“ (1:33:40) is when I paused and thought I tell you, how cool you are, besides of course I was very impressed by youre other great contributions. Thanks for your work and dedication!
So glad the legendary John Anthony West was name-dropped just after 4 minutes.
While watching this podcast, A thought occurred to me. so we are aware of the orientation of the great pyramid being ever so slightly off from true North could it be possible that during its construction it was indeed set to absolute true north, but due to its advanced alleged age That Continental drift caused it to get out of absolute true north orientation. Just a crazy thought
And pole shift, where was it geograpicly 32,000 years ago? Also in relation to constellations.
A great deal of strange events have happened to Planet Earth since the Great Pyramid was built, so it was most likely set to the true north of its time.
Not crazy at all... in fact, I thought this was generally accepted to be true - It's absolutely what I believe!
I can assure you it was pointing exactly where they wanted it to be pointed at the time of its construction. Whether that was exactly true north or slightly off we will never know
A pyramid does not "point" to anything, it is not an arrow.
It has 4 sides and most probably the Egyptians aligned one of the sides based on the Sun, whose trajectory they could observe in the sky everyday. So basically one of the sides was "aligned" with either west or east and since the pyramid base is a square, it follows that one the sides was necessarily "aligned" with north... This is not rocket science
Now the sides are not exactly equal in length with the biggest difference being some 4 cm or a couple of inches (so those laser pointers or other high tech stuff that Ben and his ilk claims they had were not that precise)
so glad to see you guys merging audiences and together, I love hearing both your perspectives and angles looking into ancient egypt
I really loved this think tank! What incredible research from Ben Van Kerwykk! I loved your idea Robert, that the vessels could be used for healing through the vibration and frequency that they have transmitted to the water that they could hold. Yes! I had a fun vision that many many vessels of all shapes and materials that have been made were placed in all of the nooks and crannies of the pyramid, filled with water at different levels, and the master musician would play them through emitting their own vibrations and directing certain qualities of their vibration to the different vessels, like a conductor of a symphony- and it could instantly transform the space into other dimensions and timelines. It could be a symphony of sound that could heal people in its presence, but even later when the water from the vessels were consumed, just as you said. Imagine all of the possibilities of sound and variation depending on where the vessels were placed in combination with the architecture of the pyramid and even how much water was in each one. This master musician/conductor reminded me of how alligators perform their water dance through their vibration and frequency emitting capabilities.
The word "incredible" indeed comes to mind
The rooms of Barabara in India have precision similar to these vases. These rooms are huge there is seven of them I believe and they're literally cut out or I should say hollowed out in granite. Wonder if it's the same people that made these vases
They are very similar. I think some features of the Barabar caves are even MORE precise than the vases as well.
@@RealKlausSchwab Would have to agree. Thinking about it is absolutely insane. I would love to know how in the hell they were able to create those rooms with such precision and why.
The same people, of course... they made vases... then they rested for a couple of thousand years, moved to India for a change of scenery and decided for their next challenge to make caves...
Everyone is on the right track with the research from many perceptions.keep up the wonderful research.
Wow! Just amazing information. Than, you both so much ❤❤
What better mystery and greater joy for our minds to investigate and interact with than the Mystery of Beauty!
🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽 🌳🕊💚
Amazing information. Thanks both. Excellent.❤
True Egyptology-wise - The Lecture of the Year!!!!! and a Rare one - Ben in the Corner ..... a half-hearted YES(so it sounded to me on top of not even a mumbled Yes on several occasions) - FUN-tastic - Thanks to both of you!!!! I have seen all Ben s videos - now I have to see Robert have done!!!!!!!!!!! I saw a number of them now - PRECIOUS!!!!!
The thing about this rock texture is that the eye can sometimes see what it wants to see. You could see several images in that rock if you shifted your focus. The alpha/omega carved out is amazing!
This was an extremely good watch, and I find it quite fascinating you chose the upload it on the new years eve (not the gregorian one ^^). Thank you for this delightful conversation, I've followed both you and Ben for some while now so to see you both come together and talk and connect a lots of bits of info together was fantastic and informative in the ways I enjoy. I look forward to future collaborations between you two. This might be the most open and direct I have witnessed either of you in conversation, it felt like you both found opportunity to communicate at your highest levels on subjects you are passionate about, and it really worked well.
Having saw your discovery of etchings before, it's still befuddling that we've completely overlooked them, and that to hear you've the ability to experience walking through the scans is fantastic.
This is my first time hearing of the decans of the zodiac, that will be fun looking into further
The reason car companies can produce the elaborate surfaces we see on cars and vehicles of all kinds is the ability to divide a second into a billion parts . Data sets containing many millions of points in 3d space makes analyzing these items possible. Then the frequency aspect adds another dimension to this amazing topic
Vases as sound frequency amplifiers brilliant sir....dont forget most of the 1st instruments ever made came from Egypt ...maybe theres a connection? Keep up the great work......the puzzle is being put together and the out come will be one of the greatest discoveries in humankind history.....thank u.
Awesome conversation!
I hope you’ll be able to speak with Bob Greenyer at some point 😊
He’s been researching the Fractal Toroidal Moment and its function in Fusion/Stellar Synthesis. He’s connected so much sacred geometry across many cultures that all are describing this Toroidal Moment.
He’s got a very interesting hypothesis for the function of the great pyramid. And had also proposed that an additional chamber would be found above the gallery.
Yes please get Bob he'll have somethings to discuss with you for sure! If you're not familiar with the thunderstorm generator you're in for a treat 😊
They certainly met, at least at the last Cosmic summit 2024. Glad about it.
And I am watching at 3:33 pm🥰❣️Am always fascinated with all things Egyptian. Am connected with THOTH, Hathor, Isis, Ra, And have had many Waking Visions connected with Egypt…Have been to the Archeological museum in Istanbul, Turkey. There is a Giant Black sarcophagus there as well as a large section of the Wall of Babylon. It is a beautiful blue tiled wall with Lions on it🙏🏼💙.
I'm glad you talked with this guy!
Robert...there are xrays..imprints..etched...pictures everywhere. I have found such precise etchings of figures in rocks, on trees, leaves, etc.I call it the travelling universal laser or camera that records everything. Newspapers if looked at closely with the right light/lens has imprint upon imprint of past civilizations. It's remarkable. So glad you are seeing this.
youve just described Paradolia lol
@@rdl3290 Hi There...I do not perceive images. I have photographed these images and I assure you they are there. But thanks for your input.
@@angelaimbrenda4506 oh so you take the image and you see the hidden pictures in the photo rather than the bare wall ?
🤩A Mind Blowing Must See Video! 👏👏👏
Fantastic Conversation.
Thanks guys.
Ash from down under
Ben's reaction to Kings Chamber star sign great year
That's gold
Ben is AWESOME good work
13:44 absolutely, when Ben says "at this level you don't know if you're dealing with imprecision of scan" or surface damage - I chip in and say that even the remnants of fatty deposits made by humans touching the surface must play a role in these imperfections.
CPAK was Amazing learnt so much, thanks both for all your work 🎉
What CPAK? I only knew about the Cosmic Summit.
While Chris Dunn is brilliant & a trailblazer, once you see The Land Of Chem’s channel, you can’t unsee it. With all due respect to Dunn, the pyramid operates in an opposite manner than he suggests. Quite literally an inverse-piezoelectric effect, not a piezoelectric effect. The energy input was lightning strikes, not earthquake machine. The pyramids are built into the bedrock ON an iron vein that disperses the energy. The iron vein runs beneath ALL the structures on the plateau, connecting them. This is a giant sonochemical processing plant. There are also healing chambers in his theory.
I could type 5 more paragraphs. I found his channel about a month ago and still haven’t gotten through all his content. Hundreds of hours of absolutely compelling content.
Geoffry Drumm and also the ISIDA project. Its strange Ben never mentions it. Enough people have tried to tell him.
Quite! I have seen all the 'Land of Chem' videos. Geoffrey Drumm doesn't get the followers he deserves but his work is the most compelling answer to why the pyramids were built. The entire site was a vast Chemical Plant. However, Geofrey is still of the opinion that ancient Egyptian technology was capable of creating the site and I don't accept that to be possible.
The picture of the East wall of the kings chamber (1:11:23) has a striking resemblance, in my opinion, to pillar 43 at Gobekli Tepe. Anyone else notice this??
That was fascinating! I love listening to Robert talk about the pyramids and his discoveries. Robert has an enthusiasm that is wonderful to hear. Ancient history is so interesting. I have seen Robert present the pictures on the walls of the pyramids on Next Level Soul also. It was fascinating then and still fascinating to see what is there. Thanks for the interview and the sharing of the knowledge.
I had Ben on my podcast and talked at him for like 2 hours, it was great
Hi Robert, Have you heard about the guys destroying Cancer cells with frequencies? It turns out that for it work the frequencies need to 1:11, dual freq., specific to the cancers' vibration. Your work with ratios 9:1 - 528:432 might also have an effect if broadcast together ... also, are they not also resonant chakra frequencies?
Machining tolerances between 0.02 and 0.005 are concidered achievable using hand tools in metal. It requires super precise measuring instruments that are made within 0.001 inches though... Below 0.005 inches you need somekind of precision powertool such as lathes and milling machines. You still need the precision measuring instruments (calipers, micro meters, machiner's block, height gauge, ect) to know where you are at during the process. I have done manual maching and automated/manual precision machining and hmm... I'd be very curious to measure these vases myself, but from what i've seen, i cant imagine how they would make these without what we have today. What about the non precises vases? Are there any? What are the tolerances? How many precise vases over messed vases?
Using modern machines like a precision lathe, we can only replicate a vase's exterior or interior, but not both. That is, only if we used the same material as the original vases (granite or any stone in general). The reason is that the walls of these vases are so thin and if we attempted to replicate them, the centrifugal force would destroy the work if you turn it at the speed required to cut this material. There are examples of these vases that are as thin as a credit card. No machine or technique today would allow us to replicate them in the same material. Not to mention the problem of how you would even hold the fragile work in a lathe without crushing it.
@@vadimbellous8313 of course the interior is possible to machine with a lathe.... Have you ever used one? I know some of these vase are very thin... You have to increase the rotation speed and put minimal force on the cutting tool... Very fragile, but not impossible. You seem like you speak through your hat sir. Have a good one.
You just don't get it. But, if understanding was easy, there might not be wars and hatred in this world...
go to Ben's RUclips Channel UnchartedX. He has great break downs of the vases that you can look at, and listen to explanations of details. The non precise vases are made from alabasta which is a much softer stone for carving than the granite and other materials used for percision vases, which are very hard stones. Even still with the softer stone many of the vases are easily visibly impercise, and often painted to imitate the granite vases, and even the most beautiful perfect examples are not close to the percision of these vases. They're made from the hardest materials, made the most precise, and are the oldest vases. There were over 16000 of these percision vases under the bent pyramid alone, but due to their historical significance are not readily available for study. (as in being controlled and kept away from research) I don't know any numbers for impercise vases, but the point being made is that these percision vases are not overly rare, were actually kinda abundant, were prized and collected going back at least as far as the predynastic eygptians. The later eygptians prized and Immitated them with the alabasta vases, going as far as to paint them to look similar. Clearly these vases were known by the eygptians to be amazing, and we are studying them here today and seeing insane percision, encoded ratio/math/understanding. What we are seeing is that our ancestors were far greater in the past than we ever realized, that we had amazing technical ability and understanding, seemingly beyond our own understanding. modern man can be arrogant assuming himself to be the pinnacle, most advanced ever, but we are literally only now becoming advanced enough to understand how deeply and profoundly our ancestors understood reality. we constantly learn new things, only to realize ancient symbolisms already were showing or telling us that. Yet only by learning advanced things, and then seeing it in the ruins of the past, are we called to realize how advanced and sophisticated the past was/is.
If you're working a piece of steel that had random inclusions of denser material on a 3 axis lathe, how precise would it be after 6000 years?
How on earth did they even manage to measure out the extreme dimensions of these vases back then...
Congrats mate! This channel is Bloomin Bonkers!
Ben is the man! So interesting and great at explaining stuff. ❤
AWESOME! Cant wait 🎉
Great episode with Ben!!
Love the thought on speed of light is also possibly just the speed of our perception capabilities
This Guy thoth my indeed be the architect of civilization
Wow! I have to watch this again!
So the vase is basically concentric circles made out of a rock that amplifies energy… maybe if a certain tone is played it would resinate in the vase which would amplify its energy opening a doorway. Or maybe it’s for multiple uses and liquid poured inside would be energetically transformed for healing. Just the first things to pop into my head after learning about the patterns. Very interesting 🤔. Upon listening further looks like i was pretty accurate. Kinda blew my mind. The see through ones are probably batteries. Water in contact with a hydrophilic surface creates a negatively charged zone and quartz is hydrophilic. Water past the exclusion zone is positively charged. That means a quartz vessel with water would have both negative and positive charge. if electrodes were placed inside it would produce unlimited energy when in sunlight.
Amaging how more and more information are being revealed
Yaaa just coming into this podcast, I have a feeling it’s going to be amazing, Ben archiving and recording the ancient artifacts and Robert with a very keen understanding about math and sacred geometry
Thankyou gentleman This was facinating .
Well done Ben ,'nuff said
The shisc disc looks really musical and worthy of major study.
lol Flint Dibble would shit his pants
Always nice to see Top Cat given a call out - unexpected , nice……
I'd like to hear more discussion on the theories put forward by The Land of Chem. Seems to me that he is indeed correct.
So exciting
Robert. You inspire and teach and aid my ascendancy frequently
I’m very grateful
This awakening is refreshing but it's just revealing more remnants of a golden age. We're just now getting a chance to marvel at all the lost knowledge
I love your readings Jimmy and watch them all the time. This is very true for me, and yes, I am very grateful for all I have and do my best to raise the vibration of others at every opportunity. I have been noticing how this raises mine and gives back what I give out. It’s beautiful ❤️
That artwork actually resembles the art at gobekli tepe almost right on, that is very strange, perhaps theres a link to the sphynx given it dates to almost the exact same time frame. I think one big thing everyone is missing on the jars is that it is clearly machined, precision machined, which implies a lot of things, tools, concepts, techniques etc. For example the fact that with a lathe can create another lathe, which leads into the concepts of mass production, standardization, scaling, gears, automation, material sciences, etc. Something ill add is that to make such a machine it would be robust, its a working tool, it needs to handle many cycles, you would not build such a device out of brass, nor would you be able to machine stones using brass, interestingly enough they have found an iron dagger made of a meteor, I think there is clearly a link to iron and steel, diamond carbide even tooling. This can be tested because on the smallest vases the tool holder would need to be able to fit inside and still function which dictates properties and measurements which can be testing in the real world. Thats eye opening for sure that art work is nothing like the egyptian artwork definitely from a different people in my opinion.
There is evidence that ancient Egyptians used arsenic copper which is a very strong metal BUT the so called vases, found in their thousands, were manufactured by a method as yet unknown to us in 2024.
Your process of deduction is very clear to me.I went to Cairo 5 years ago,just before covid,it wasn't far after there Arab Spring.Not hardly any tourist,a family took me in.He was friends with the people at the pyramids who have the animals horses camel donkeys,or whatever.I didn't study what all that was in the barns but the people were very kind to me and we sat on the floor and had a good meal and exchange.Back to the bowls,ive done a lot of turning on various lathes,pottery welding.anyhow just looking at those things I could see they were machined very preside.And the mummies,think about it.To have the knowledge of chemistry to even preserve anything for some time must include quiet a wide range of knowhow.I went to Gobekli Tepi.,going to look for myself just clarified an understanding about the human timeliness.Hard too use the words that suit the situation.For the bit of money and time,the returns are immeasurable. Take care good luck with your endevour
Of course. Makes complete sense... They had a super advanced tech and used it to make..... vases... Once they were done with their vases they used their disintegrating tech to destroy all the tools and machines, just to confuse us.. Then they destroyed all the records.. And then they disintegrated themselves... which is why we cannot find anything to support these kinds of theories... These practical jokers were very clever
Please do a presentation regarding Barabar in India. The precision of the vases reminds me of the precision of the hollowed out granite rooms of Barabar.
Excellent👍 Billy Carson has also talked about similar issues. Hugely interesting thanks, btw here in Scotland we call a church a Kirk 😊
Billy Carson has been exposed as a liar and a grifter by Professor Dave
Wow what a concept...
The stone vases can release information by having the correct fluid levels and vibrational frequencies played thru them, maybe a video plays or sound is released when the crystals are activated in the proper manor...
There were studies about the Sabu disk & sound waves...
Keep up the good work.
We need more conversations like this
Starting to think the hall of records is the great pyramid itself seems to have an awful lot of information encoded into the building itself
Differential measurements are important. Disharmonics were thought to disturb the atom glue, in the cutting process. These ratios could be important
The guy on the left has a striking resemblance to Chumley on Pawn Stars.
The hidden art is a real thing, a thing one has to be attuned to. Once you've seen it, you'll be looking for it. If you have not seen it, it will be hard to imagine that there is a need to search for it. I see it.
Somebody in the ancient past knew it too, and tried to eliminate most all of it.
When they defaced Karnak they missed some (tiny stars) and it goes largely unnoticed still to this day. They are original and survived, but so small as not to be noticed.
What makes them important? is that the tool that made them, never dulled.
How long does your special knife hold it's edge against granite? mine dulls immediately.
The tools they had make fools of our tools and some of the best researchers in the world.
So do diamonds lose the the tip when used on granite ? I think they do, but
I can't afford diamonds to do the tests
Ben, your a smart guy, dont falll for everything. this guys wacked. I read Winchester's book too, and a geologist, and a metal sculptor. get in touch! I have a few solid ideas.
Really enjoyed this interview
Beautiful and informative. Us all working together is what will bring out the clues and likewise answers. Those, like you two,
40 minutes in and listening to you both chatting about the ratios and resonances, and the mention of 216, which happens to be half of 432 (Hz. sonic geometry), it made me think of another of my favourite videos, Carl Munck - The Code, the 5-hour version.. Not sure if you've seen it, but i find that video fascinating, and i've lost count how many times i've watched it.. He seemed to have found a mathematical formula that links a lot of these structures. He shows a relation between the dimensions of the structures and their grid location on a globe using the Great Pyramid as the base meridian, not the Greenwich one that is used in more modern times.. He called this geomathematics.. He shows how the structures are apparently built as mathematical equations... Now i've just heard you chatting about the structures maybe having resonant frequencies also, i'm wondering if the frequencies of the structures and the artefacts themselves have any kind of relation to the part of the planet in which they are located... I mean, could there be a reason why a particular structure or artefact could have a more meaningful resonance at a certain location on the planet? It's hard to put in to words what i am trying to convey.. But i think i've waffled enough for one comment.... Great video by the way...
My general problem with the 432Hz thing is that it doesn’t make sense musically. Whenever someone talks about this it is NOT a mathematical scale, simply pitchning down the 440Hz scale with 8Hz. So going up an octave is still just 880 minus 8 and not 432x2, it’s a huge difference. When you use 432 and you use it as a mathetamtical base (so one octave up will be 864Hz) then the whole thing completely falls apart, there is no more harmony, no more musicality so it simply does not work, it becomes a non-musical chaos that hurts your ears like hell.
You've got a point.... Personally, i'm not that musical so i only know what i've seen and not heard... I mention it because it does make sense when demonstrating cymatics, 440 is messy... I'm just going by the fact that we're approx 70% water, so i can sorta see how that could be useful.... Also, i first saw 432 mentioned on the Sonic Geometry video... It was one of many frequencies on what was called the factor 9 grid... It's a great video, i highly recommend it... Then there's the fact it was what was used originally... It was used for a very long time also... The more i think about it, the more reasons i can see why it was used. But as you said, mathematically, maybe it doesn't make sense, i'm certainly no one to judge. I just find it all very interesting. Because 432 appears a lot in my quest for knowledge.. Another fact mentioned in that Sonic Geometry video i mentioned, it also relates to the Sun and Moon... It's a number that makes remembering the diameter of both very easy.. Thank you for your comment, it's given me something else to think about. Ta...
you can visibly see Ben checking out around the 1:30:00 mark
Thorn borough henge north Yorkshire, Orion's belt.
Amazing discussion
Has anyone else come across the man with the youtube channel exploring his theory that the pyramids and the whole culture surrounded chemistry? That the pyramids were made to create chemicals? It’s actually unbelievably well vetted already and is really quite compelling. There’s innumerable and vast amounts of evidence.
Land of Chem channel. Geoffry Drumm and also the ISIDA project. Its strange Ben never mentions it. Enough people have told him.
www.youtube.com/@thelandofchem/videos
@@PAUL1sLOVE just wanted to say thanks for the reply, i was on a trip so it came late. But yep thats the guy and its a sincerely fantastic theory. I honestly believe hes got it. Or at least pushed us way closer to knowing. I would love to get bens take on it. They definitely need to address it.
@@JimmyKlef Those 'unsolvable mysteries of the pyramids' guys can ignore it all they want, and I am 100%sure Graham Hancock knows about the ISIDA project and never mentions it, when he's on Joe the Toe Rogan. In the end the truth reveals itself.
Just a thought that popped into my head. The vessels with handles i'm sure had some sorta rod going through these 'handles' which were then hooked up to some machine that vibrated the vessels, and its contents.
I disagree, mostly because the holes are much less precise than the rest of the vase, which implies that it was done by a different person with a much less sophisticated manufacturing process and abilities. Alot of the vases don't even have holes in the lug handles as well.
I do believe the vases WERE functional though.
Need to get " Land of Chem" RUclipsr on here, he has a chemical production hypothesis for egypt pyramids with very compelling evidence, my new favorite hypothesis, Chris Dunn is #2 for me 🤪
Land of Chem channel. Geoffry Drumm, weird that Ben never mentions it.
@@PAUL1sLOVE im sure Ben will mention Land of Chem eventually, he too busy studying vases 🤪
Is there a scrubbing them walls inside the chamber with super acid or some sort of abrasive material... that would lead one to believe that they're trying to deface the surface of the chamber...... remove what is on the walls...... so no one has any idea of what is there.. then my question becomes who was the one that started scrubbing the walls??? Why is it so important to someone?? To remove everything it is there??? Thank you for all the work you're doing thank you for bringing the info to the world...❤
It's a variety of reasons that are used for scrubbing the pyramid walls. Egyptian authorities want them clear of the salts that formed on them, plus the bat droppings etc could be a health hazard. Many tourists pass through the pyramids every day and health has to be considered. The fact that cleaning the pyramids damages them doesn't seem to concern those in charge who for the most part want to preserve the idea that the pyramids were tombs, because it is good for tourism.
I believe Egypt would have even more tourists if the alternative information was more widely known but I also believe Egypt is wasted on the Egyptians.
Through some research I've learned that in Egypt people considered South to be the head and North at the feet (which actually electro-magnetically makes sense as we are using convention and not the experimentally measured direction). And left hand being East and right hand being West. So they considered looking downward towards Earth from Heavens above.
wonder id the air pressure was different way back then, the earth teluric currents more tangible, so the vases functionality may have to factor in that to discover use. Having 30000 vases in one place may suggest they were used only once for specific " healing" of specific condition...just a few thoughts to add to the mix. Great chat guys.
More likely the vases were stored underground with many other items to save them from one of Earth's cataclysms. Only granite would survive for the thousands of years that have since passed.
Analogy of the whiskey bottle hit the nail on the head. Sound=energy/power energy/power=Sound
What I find really Interesting is the exact same harmonic mathematical formula used in these Documented predynastic vases as the pyramids, which would mean the pyramids are far older!!
I’m very curious if Robert and @unchartedX are familiar with the comprehensive work of Geoffrey Drumm @Thelandofchem regarding the functions of all of the pyramids as well as the serapheum of ancient Egypt?
If not please take a deep dive he presents the most convincing theory of their multifaceted functions that I’ve seen
Its weird that Ben never mentions it.
Enough people have tryed to tell him.
I did raise the subject of Geoffrey's 'Land of Chem' work with Ben when I met him in London. It was very noisy in the pub where I was hoping to have a proper conversation with Ben but I got the impression that Geoffrey and his Chemical Plant theory were to be dismissed. For me, the work of Geoffrey Drumm throws light on why the pyramids were built and his chemical analysis is the icing on the cake. Giza was a vast Chemical Plant.