Dmitri Shostakovich - Symphony No. 12: The Year 1917

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  • Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024

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  • @adorno_gang37
    @adorno_gang37 8 лет назад +502

    anxiously awaiting the sequel "The Year 2017"

    • @MajinOthinus
      @MajinOthinus 7 лет назад

      I know, that's how I found my way here, I remembered Schostakowitschhad a Symphony about it :D

    • @DanielSantos-qv3zv
      @DanielSantos-qv3zv 7 лет назад +2

      about 1917 not from 1917 guys but you know this right?

    • @aidapaiva9759
      @aidapaiva9759 7 лет назад +1

      2017, 100 anos de revolução russa. Eu acho que foi isso que Johan Delvare quis dizer.

    • @aidapaiva9759
      @aidapaiva9759 7 лет назад +1

      Qual músico vai compor "The Year 2017"?

    • @harryandruschak2843
      @harryandruschak2843 7 лет назад

      More like 1956. And Crimea/Ukraine today.

  • @mikeygmm
    @mikeygmm 7 месяцев назад

    Dimitri Shostakovich, memory eternal!

  • @martin1024
    @martin1024 7 лет назад +7

    Wagner said the symphonies are dead. Then Bruckner and this dude appeared

    • @daph0307
      @daph0307 5 лет назад +3

      Don't forget Mahler. He influenced Shostakovich.

  • @roberto8650
    @roberto8650 Год назад

    07:13 Harry Potter?

  • @jellosapiens7261
    @jellosapiens7261 8 лет назад +300

    A criminally underrated masterpiece.

    • @gogotrololo
      @gogotrololo 2 года назад +2

      just wait until it's in public domain, it'll be huge heh

    • @user-he4em5zx8s
      @user-he4em5zx8s Год назад +1

      I can't understand why this is poorly rated

    • @DynastieArtistique
      @DynastieArtistique Год назад

      Its not underrated, just good

    • @Arwen328
      @Arwen328 10 месяцев назад

      It is highly rated! It is first time I hear it is underestimated. Maybe among people why doesn't love anyting that demands high attention.

  • @drewdumchus727
    @drewdumchus727 10 лет назад +487

    It's very sad to know the majority of people only know Mozart and Beethoven; no other composers.

    • @bhtas3006
      @bhtas3006 10 лет назад +76

      It's worse to know that the majority of people haven't even heard much of what they've written.

    • @jvdesuit1
      @jvdesuit1 10 лет назад +32

      You know why? Just because 1/ concerts organizers aim first to fill up the concert halls! 2/ Because of lack of curiosity of a majority of attendees at concerts. With Beethoven, Mozart, Tchaikovsky you're sure to fill up your hall with Shostakovitch you wont. Recently in Paris we were fortunate to have a full cycle of all symphonies and concertos of this immense composers. I was able to catch first category seats the very day before the concert and make my choice among several seats ! The performers were no less than the Mariinsky orchestra conducted by Valery Gergiev; the soloists were among other Gauthier Capuçon who made a incredible performance of the Cello concerto N°1, also Vadim Repin, Denis Matsuev!

    • @jvdesuit1
      @jvdesuit1 9 лет назад +8

      Ben Hall Ben I was referring to people who pretend knowing classical music. In Paris as soon as you program a work which is not a hit, concert halls will be half full! I remember a concert with the Vienna philharmonic where the first part of the concert was a work by Busoni for piano and orchestra (some variations on Norma's Bellini if I'm not mistaken) the 2000 seats of the Theater des Champs Elysées were half occupied. It's a lack of curiosity. There's a great channel on youtube by KuhlauDilfeng2 or4; check it out there are fantastic unknown or rarely performed works spanning from Baroque to contemporary musicians.

    • @heatherferreira4225
      @heatherferreira4225 9 лет назад +18

      Equally criminal Mozart and the three B's being 95% of all that's played on classical radio. The coffee and elbow pads version of playing only The Beatles and The Eagles if ever there were. If they played more flavorful composers like Shostakovich, concert halls and public radio would have more listeners and better funding: period. This music is not bland and that's its power. Who truly wants to hear Eine Kleine Nachtmusik for the 48,000th time? Enough! Play THIS!

    • @benpowell5007
      @benpowell5007 8 лет назад +11

      +Heather Ferreira WELL SAID! One work they should definitely play in a concert hall is Goreki's "Symphony of Sorrowful Songs", and underrated/overlooked composers such as C.P.E Bach and even Salieri (whose music is nowhere near as boring as one would think (and we have Amadeus to thank for that- even though it was well-made, the historical inaccuracies and American accents made me cringe). I'd love to see orchestras try and do this. I'm an avid concert goer, and all I see is Mozart, Beethoven, Bach (yuck!) and Handel. The most "unknown" work I've ever seen played in a concert is "Threnody to the victims of Hiroshima". Very powerful piece, but I could hear people muttering "That was not music" during the interval. People need to be more open-minded. The moonlight sonata is another example- if I were to play the third movement, a lot of people would probably ask "Who composed that piece?" Sorry for the rant, just agreeing with your opinion! :)

  • @PrivateAckbar
    @PrivateAckbar 8 лет назад +108

    He influenced a lot of contemporary film compositions.

    • @GentleGiantAudio
      @GentleGiantAudio 3 года назад +14

      John Williams and the world of film music owes a lot to Dmitri Shostakovich.

    • @anonhippomermaid7477
      @anonhippomermaid7477 3 года назад +9

      @@GentleGiantAudio yeah, when I first heard it I was like "okay, that was Star Wars, that was Indiana Jones, that was Harry Potter"

    • @benjaminmenken5693
      @benjaminmenken5693 3 года назад +6

      You can totally here the inspiration in John Williams, also every Stanley Kubrick films soundtrack is heavily inspired by shostakovich, which makes sense because Kubrick was a huge shostakovich fan.

  • @LuisHumanoide
    @LuisHumanoide 4 года назад +32

    6:54 Shostakovich had written a score for Indiana Jones movie before J. Williams

  • @christhorton6512
    @christhorton6512 10 лет назад +90

    I would say something but I can't right now because Shosty just knocked the wind out of me!

    • @محمدحاتم-ل7ص
      @محمدحاتم-ل7ص 10 лет назад +1

      اقول الخلا بس

    • @kungfukenny592
      @kungfukenny592 10 лет назад +2

      محمد حاتم شعب منتشر اعوذ بالله ههههههههههههههههههههه

  • @beowulfschefing7697
    @beowulfschefing7697 7 лет назад +85

    I have listened to this work for nearly 40 years now and I still love it. It may not be like the 5, 7, 10 or 11th but to me it still stands as a great Soviet era Symphony. Who cares it is still brilliant.

    • @Altonahh10
      @Altonahh10 3 года назад +1

      "great Soviet era"? What was great about it? The fact that millions of people had to die because they had a different belief?

    • @dominicfiacco
      @dominicfiacco 3 года назад +21

      @@Altonahh10 He meant the symphony was great, not the era.

    • @jijanew64
      @jijanew64 2 года назад +1

      @@Altonahh10 The Soviet era was a future that never came. That is what makes it great.

    • @РатиборРодин
      @РатиборРодин Год назад

      @@Altonahh10 Ну для тебя то понятно чем она не великая эпоха,ни как не можешь забыть....

    • @РатиборРодин
      @РатиборРодин Год назад

      @@dominicfiacco И эпоха тоже.

  • @Panzersoldaten
    @Panzersoldaten Месяц назад +8

    Anyone here from hearts of iron 4 Great War redux?

  • @tanmaytikle8521
    @tanmaytikle8521 4 года назад +46

    Thank so much two set violin for mentioning this piece in one of your videos
    You're really helping non music folks like me experience the world of classical music to the fullest ❤️

  • @mateuszczarnowski531
    @mateuszczarnowski531 8 лет назад +143

    0:38 is blowing my mind! simple and beautifull.

    • @josephfernando4867
      @josephfernando4867 7 лет назад +3

      yes...i see what you mean...is it the transition ....

    • @Nina-no8qj
      @Nina-no8qj 4 года назад +6

      Mateusz Czarnowski I just got there and I almost gapped at the gorgeous transition

    • @annalena6625
      @annalena6625 3 года назад +6

      this part is the reason I listen to this

    • @Panzersoldaten
      @Panzersoldaten Месяц назад +1

      Anyone here from the Great War redux?

    • @shashwatsingh6319
      @shashwatsingh6319 24 дня назад +1

      Here ​@@Panzersoldaten

  • @qEagleStrikerp
    @qEagleStrikerp 7 лет назад +43

    No matter how often I listen to this, I can't help but get the feeling that more than only one or two Star Wars Soundtracks were greatly influenced by this ^^ I love this piece :3

  • @unnamed_boi
    @unnamed_boi 3 года назад +65

    00:00 - I. Revolutionary Petrograd
    12:28 - II. Razliv
    25:12 - III. Aurora
    29:50 - IV. The Dawn of Humanity
    Performers: Neeme Järvi, Gothenburg Symphony Orchestra

  • @Panzersoldaten
    @Panzersoldaten 4 месяца назад +3

    When I play hearts of iron 4 on Great War redux this is my favorite track in the game

  • @bod9317
    @bod9317 6 лет назад +19

    i think John williams was inspired by this masterpiece, damn this is so good

  • @blindinglight7839
    @blindinglight7839 9 лет назад +119

    This is real music. I swear.

    • @iCubaZ
      @iCubaZ 7 лет назад +3

      Bach Beethoven Brahms listen to rage against the machine:D

    • @zartsekel
      @zartsekel 6 лет назад +2

      iCubaZ
      What?

    • @SuperLumpyPumpkin
      @SuperLumpyPumpkin 4 года назад +7

      last time i checked, Shostakovitch wasn't responsible for blessing us with the Fortnite burger, something that Travis Scott did single-handedly

    • @baddestpro9879
      @baddestpro9879 4 года назад

      Ja wohl mein Herr

  • @Offlinifly
    @Offlinifly 10 лет назад +54

    0:0
    12:35
    17:53
    18:07
    18:12

  • @Nina-no8qj
    @Nina-no8qj 4 года назад +36

    Wow, *quite relaxing*
    Classical music is *soooo boring*
    Aveeee Mariiiiia **screams in Ling Ling**

    • @SoBeIt9033
      @SoBeIt9033 2 года назад

      Sorry, I didn't get the reference. Could you please link that video down below? Thanks! 🙏

    • @DK-tv6rk
      @DK-tv6rk 2 года назад

      Ah, a fellow Twosetter I see.

    • @Nina-no8qj
      @Nina-no8qj 2 года назад

      It’s TwoSetViolin

    • @Nina-no8qj
      @Nina-no8qj 2 года назад

      Indeed

    • @SoBeIt9033
      @SoBeIt9033 2 года назад

      @@Nina-no8qj Yes, I know them, but in which particular video(s) had they mentioned this symphony?

  • @baddestpro9879
    @baddestpro9879 4 года назад +11

    The dawn of mankind is really beautiful

  • @heatherferreira4225
    @heatherferreira4225 9 лет назад +82

    Critics found this "unsatisfying"? "Unmoving"...? Then did they all walk out to the concert hall bar table just before 30:58?

    • @shrillbert
      @shrillbert 8 лет назад +10

      +Heather Ferreira
      To be fair, it is a fairly repetitive piece compared to some of his other work.

    • @LoydAvenheart
      @LoydAvenheart 7 лет назад +7

      It reflects the man it was dedicated to. "Unsatisfying and unmoving" so it fits.

    • @noddypeak
      @noddypeak 6 лет назад +11

      I think it had more to do with politics than anything.

  • @Nina-no8qj
    @Nina-no8qj 4 года назад +13

    2:55 BEST PART GUYS

  • @j.vonhettlingen7112
    @j.vonhettlingen7112 9 лет назад +91

    It's a challenge to listen to Shostakovich's "Symphony No. 12: The year 1917"!
    He wrote this piece only in 1961, 44 years after the Russian Revolution and 14 years before he died.
    Dedicated to the memory of Lenin, the music is loaded with energy, unleashed by the Revolution. Yet Shostakovich hadn't failed to pay tribute to the victims with funeral music, which also expressed the frustration and desperation of ordinary citizens after the Revolution.

    • @Altonahh10
      @Altonahh10 3 года назад +7

      Basically I don´t see Sh. as a political composer. He was a rather sensitive being and the reason why some parts of his compositions are so brusque and fast lies more in the fact that he felt hunted by the Stalin system and got under a lot of pressure by censorship and the question if and how he would survive a totalitarian system. His relief that Stalin was finally dead can be heard in his 10th symphony, probably one of the masterpieces of 20th century music.

    • @dylanschmeichel2008
      @dylanschmeichel2008 2 года назад +1

      @@Altonahh10 right, not to mention post Stalin Khrushchev allowed for much less cultural censorship as part of his de stalinization policy. Essentially he was much more lenient on constricting artists and whatnot.

    • @РатиборРодин
      @РатиборРодин Год назад +5

      @@Altonahh10 При советской цензуре создавались шедевры,а с 90х при колониальном капитализме деградация.

    • @РатиборРодин
      @РатиборРодин Год назад

      Простые граждане и делали её, а сейчас нами руководят ставленники запада.

    • @Altonahh10
      @Altonahh10 Год назад

      @@РатиборРодин What´s your point - that Stalin was good for the arts?

  • @osiantownsendjones2833
    @osiantownsendjones2833 5 лет назад +11

    Wow... the first movement was so much like the 2nd of the 10th symphony; constantly driving forwards, furious.

  • @marcmuch3934
    @marcmuch3934 3 года назад +11

    The little bombastic passage that occurs at 8:43 is unbelievable power. Every detail thought of. Bravo Maestro Shostakovich!!

  • @j.e.8442
    @j.e.8442 7 лет назад +11

    Cada sinfonía de Shostakovich es épica. La 7, 8, 10 y 12 son sus obras maestras (para mí). Brutal genio a la altura de su contemporáneo y compatriota Prokofiev.

  • @KazeSenshi2929
    @KazeSenshi2929 9 лет назад +18

    8:30 omg this is awesome

  • @johnellard6015
    @johnellard6015 6 лет назад +36

    Moving, epic, and deeply evocative of the events in Petrograd in 1917. Full of heroism, hope and energy. An historical epic and truly beautiful.

    • @GlenMcGlone
      @GlenMcGlone 2 года назад

      Imagine thinking the murderous coup of 1917 was anything other than a tawdry bloodbath led by some of the most, venal, spineless and evil scumbags ever to draw breath. Heroism my arse. Spit.

  • @evanwhite5704
    @evanwhite5704 5 лет назад +8

    there seems to be a lot of different opinions on this but like just listening to it it's a cool piece

  • @juliodiaz1263
    @juliodiaz1263 9 лет назад +5

    Si los mejores comentarios de esta genial pieza han de contener todo el odio y la ignorancia que expresa el odio anticomunista es para pensárselo. 1917 cambio la Historia y Shostakovich y su música son expresión de todo aquello que rompe con los cánones burgueses

  • @tikn2029
    @tikn2029 7 лет назад +17

    9:59 so heavy

  • @hjposso
    @hjposso 8 лет назад +13

    Mahler's influence is impressive!!! Beautiful Symphony!!!!

  • @steventiger880
    @steventiger880 8 лет назад +10

    I have always thought that the main problem with this symphony is that it follows the 11th, a work of staggering brilliance and overpowering drama. On its own terms, the 12th is a fine work (save perhaps for the overblown final moments), but it shares the same historical theme--a struggle against tyranny--as the 11th, which is simply a greater work.

    • @aguador67
      @aguador67 6 лет назад

      I think also that was a Party "demand", because after "1905" it was necessary to compose a work to "explain the Revolution's triumph". Live under Communism is well "explained" by the following symphony, the 13th.

    • @РатиборРодин
      @РатиборРодин Год назад

      @@aguador67 Лучше, с 90х мы живём хуже.

  • @ПавелПодъячев-т2х
    @ПавелПодъячев-т2х 10 лет назад +11

    Я встречал критический отзыв об этой симфонии, будто она написана без какого-либо вдохновения. Эта - моя любимая наряду с 7-й. Если такая музыка могла быть написана без вдохновения, то какова цена вдохновению большинства современных авторов?

    • @Barutika
      @Barutika 10 лет назад +1

      А как же музыка к фильму "Падение Берлина"?

    • @ПавелПодъячев-т2х
      @ПавелПодъячев-т2х 10 лет назад

      Василий Пантюшенко Немного не понял. Да я и не знаю, что за там музыка. Сегодня есть несколько гениев, включая Джона Виллиамса. Разве я против всех современных авторов?

    • @zartsekel
      @zartsekel 6 лет назад

      Этот "критический отзыв" был случайно не от Чубайса?

  • @infinitesorrows21
    @infinitesorrows21 11 лет назад +15

    Obviously this piece is referring to the 1917 revolution of the Bolsheviks
    Such a fitting piece

  • @ECG3485
    @ECG3485 7 лет назад +6

    This symphony was used as a soundtrack for Sergei Eisenstein's film "October: Ten Days That Shook The World" (1928).

  • @lionelmercier1
    @lionelmercier1 10 лет назад +14

    Überwältigendes Werk!!!

  • @MatthiasHRO
    @MatthiasHRO 9 лет назад +21

    This is a DG - recording, Neeme Järvi (conductor) & The Gothenburg Symphonic Orchestra (Sweden) ....... By far the best recording of these fantastic symphony..... THANK YOU FOR POSTING!!!!

    • @christhorton6512
      @christhorton6512 9 лет назад

      Thanks for the info!

    • @Jpicsbass
      @Jpicsbass 9 лет назад

      MatthiasHRO Hello, are you entirely sure? I'm not questioning your integrity, I just noticed a few people below saying that this is the Berliner Philharmoniker playing. I like this recording and would like to make sure I buy the right one!

    • @matthiaslorenz-binondo6060
      @matthiaslorenz-binondo6060 9 лет назад +2

      ***** Hello Jonathon, I insistently exclude all possibilities of doubt. I was grewing up with these recording, it is exactly the Järvi - recording. Recently I found this site: www.allmusic.com/album/shostakovich-symphony-no-12-the-year-1917-the-age-of-gold-hamlet-mw0001841613
      You can check the sample tracks there. As I know, there is just a live - version here in RUclips with Dudamel and the Berliner Philharmoniker, but I think there is no professional recording of his 12th symphony with the Berliner.

    • @garydavis9361
      @garydavis9361 4 года назад

      It does say that in the description but sometimes that can't be trusted.

  • @wesleyfilms
    @wesleyfilms 11 лет назад +20

    I've been using this as background music while doing my work.

  • @rbeckett791
    @rbeckett791 10 лет назад +44

    Epic, why haven't I heard of this composer until now?!

    • @accaliamurraymusic
      @accaliamurraymusic 10 лет назад +63

      Cuz he doesn't play obnoxious teenage pop music LMAO

    • @heatherferreira4225
      @heatherferreira4225 7 лет назад +12

      Let me give you some more: immediately: listen also to Prokofiev (possibly Shostokovich's only match). Then Hohvaness. Then ALL of Ravel. Then Richard Strauss. Then go harder: Penderecki, Ligeti, Zimmermann. God there's so many... welcome aboard the Shostakovich Train! Let Dmitri lead you the rest of the way!

    • @seppseppel4716
      @seppseppel4716 6 лет назад +3

      penderecki and ligeti is a festering cancer growing in what people call music

    • @temporality_
      @temporality_ 6 лет назад +9

      @@heatherferreira4225 Rachmaninoff, listen to Rachmaninoff.

    • @viperswhip
      @viperswhip 5 лет назад +2

      @@heatherferreira4225 Saint-Saens, but pretty much for Danse Bacchanales but he's pretty good as well.

  • @maxmustermann-hx3fx
    @maxmustermann-hx3fx 3 года назад +4

    36:24 I love this part when it goes back to the beginning and then the 2 minutes of only 5 1 cadence when you think oh now its over ... oh nvm ... oh now its over ... oh

  • @antoniocarlosantunesantune3217
    @antoniocarlosantunesantune3217 3 года назад +7

    The best composer of century XX !

  • @josepmariarecasensgilabert8238
    @josepmariarecasensgilabert8238 4 года назад +5

    Dmitri Schostakovich da un protagonismo a los instrumentos de viento y a la percusiôn. Sus sinfonîas son plàsticas y son verdaderamente como poemas sinfônicos

    • @didierleroy6348
      @didierleroy6348 2 года назад

      Remarquable par la reproduction révolutionnaire et la représentation de l'âme du peuple de l'époque.

  • @cicakbg
    @cicakbg 12 лет назад +6

    His music best describes life in 20th century in
    Russia (CCCP)

  • @백낙현-c9l
    @백낙현-c9l 5 лет назад +4

    It might have been being underestemated in capitalized nations due to its title. The best ever I think..

  • @TheKANONS
    @TheKANONS 7 лет назад +3

    ..Αυτήν την εποχή δουλεύω τη Δωδέκατη Συμφωνία μου. Μερικοί από σας ίσως ξέρετε ότι το 1957 έγραψα την Ενδέκατη Συμφωνία μου με θέμα την πρώτη ρώσικη επανάσταση. Πριν ακόμα την τελειώσω, άρχισα να σκέφτομαι τη συνέχειά της, και έτσι συνέλαβα τη Δωδέκατη Συμφωνία μου, αφιερωμένη στη Μεγάλη Οχτωβριανή Σοσιαλιστική Επανάσταση. Έχω ήδη γράψει τα δυο από τα τέσσερα μέρη και σε δυο τρείς μήνες ελπίζω να είναι έτοιμο ολόκληρο το έργο.
    Μια και το πλάνο μου για τη συμφωνία είναι αρκετά διασαφηνισμένο, μου επιτρέπετε να πω δυο λόγια για το περιεχόμενο του έργου και για τις σκέψεις που με κατείχαν όσο το δούλευα.
    Να γράψει κανείς μια συμφωνία για την Οχτωβριανή Επανάσταση είναι, φυσικά, μεγάλη υπόθεση. Θα χρειαστεί να επιστρατεύσω όλη μου τη δύναμη και όλες μου τις δυνατότητες αν θέλω να ανταποκριθώ έστω και λίγο στο μέγεθος και τη σημασία του θέματος. Φυσικά, όταν γράφεις μία συμφωνία για την Οχτωβριανή Επανάσταση, η εικόνα που ξεχωρίζει είναι αυτή του μεγάλου ηγέτη της εργατικής τάξης, του Βλαντίμιρ Λένιν. Επομένως, η συμφωνία θα είναι αφιερωμένη στη Μεγάλη Οχτωβριανή Επανάσταση και στη μνήμη του Λένιν.
    Όπως είπα, η συμφωνία θάχει τέσσερα μέρη. Το πρώτο το αντιλαμβάνομαι σαν μια μουσική αφήγηση με θέμα την άφιξη του Λένιν στην Πετρούπολη τον Απρίλη του 1917 και τις συναντήσεις του με τον εργαζόμενο λαό της πόλης. Το δεύτερο θα περιγράφει τα ιστορικά γεγονότα της 7ης του Νοέμβρη. Το τρίτο θα μιλάει για τον Εμφύλιο Πόλεμο και το φινάλε για την τελική νίκη της Μεγάλης Οχτωβριανής Επανάστασης….
    Είναι δύσκολο να μιλάς για τα δικά σου έργα, όμως το θέμα της νέας συμφωνίας με συγκινεί ιδιαίτερα, και μου φαίνεται ότι αυτό το έργο θα είναι σπουδαίο ορόσημο στην εργογραφία μου. Του δίνω μεγάλη σημασία.
    Από πού αντλώ την έμπνευσή μου γι`αυτό το υπεύθυνο καθήκον;
    Παραβρέθηκα στα γεγονότα της επανάστασης, ήμουνα ανάμεσα στο πλήθος που άκουσε τον Λένιν να μιλάει μπροστά στο σταθμό της Φιλανδίας τη μέρα που έφτασε στην Πετρούπολη. Και παρόλο που τότε ήμουν πολύ νέος, αυτό χαράχτηκε για πάντα στη μνήμη μου. Και βέβαια, οι αναμνήσεις μου απ` αυτές τις αξέχαστες μέρες με βοηθούν στη δουλειά μου πάνω στη συμφωνία.9
    Μουζικάλναγια Ζιζν, Νο 21, 1960 --- ΝΤΜΙΤΡΙ ΣΟΣΤΑΚΟΒΙΤΣ για τον ίδιο και την εποχή του σελ. 265-266 εκδ. ΣΥΓΧΡΟΝΗ ΕΠΟΧΗ---

  • @afrofinka
    @afrofinka 10 лет назад +13

    About the performers, I guess the Berliner Philharmoniker is playing (>the sound of the stuff used for the cymbals and triangles...).
    But, sorry for the admirers of that piece, I will always have a problem with this symphony, because it's obvious that Shostakovich didn't put his whole soul into the piece. As Mstislav Rostropovich said, "when you play the dynamics exactly, it will sound ridiculous, because the same material is repeated, repeated, sometimes six times in a row (NB : especially the last 3 minutes of the score). It's like inflating a big bubble over and over again."
    I have to say that I agree with him, although I appreciate some very interesting moments (movements I and III), BUT the main problem is, because of the underlying political references (the October Revolution), this 12th Symphony suffers from a great lack of inspiration and "organic" balance. Other works (commissioned for the Party) like the "Song of the Forests", the "Overture on Kirghiz themes" or even the "Festive Overture" suffer from the same problem.
    Some people worship that piece, sometimes pretending this symphony as the best Shostakovich has ever written, but I would like to tell them : "What about the other symphonies ? Listen for example to Nos. 1, 4, 6, 13, 14 and 15 (I avoid on purpose Nos.5, 7 to 11 because they're really famous !!) and you will probably have a different opinion."

    • @NotBroihon
      @NotBroihon 10 лет назад +3

      Listened to all of his symphonies and played 5,9 and 12 myself (trumpet).
      Repeating the same material a few times is nothing bad in my opinion. Look at the 7th symphony, 1st movement.
      About 7 minutes are based on the exact same motif. You can find similar stuff in any of his symphonies.
      It might be true that he didn't put his whole soul into this piece but it's still quite good. It's still my favourite. Maybe because I'm an ignorant asshole who doesn't care too much about the political background of this piece.
      And yes it's played by the Berliner Philharmoniker.
      Just another tip: You probably listened to Dvorak's 9th symphonie? Go listen 1-8. It's worth the time.

    • @afrofinka
      @afrofinka 10 лет назад +3

      About Shostakovich's 7th Symphony, I guess you're talking about the famous 'invasion theme' in the 1st movement. But, if it is, the difference is that Shostakovich uses a different orchestration for each repeat of the theme, involved into a long crescendo. In the 12th, he never changes the dynamic or the instrumentation (except the the 3rd movement 'Aurora' where the orchestration gets bigger and bigger into a crescendo)...
      About Dvorak, I know all his symphonies, and I know some of them very well (in particular nos. 4, 6, 7 and 8)

    • @filipealexandresousa2087
      @filipealexandresousa2087 9 лет назад

      Repeation is not bad.....Depends on how the way it's done, if it has a point or not....He does it brilliantly....

    • @kevinbyrne4538
      @kevinbyrne4538 9 лет назад +3

      Ken Ubukata I would agree that one could omit several of the repetitions at the finale, and that movements I and III are the best. Someone said of Shostakovich's 12th that it was a film score without a film, which is how I listen to it.

    • @ergjoule
      @ergjoule 9 лет назад +1

      Now, that's a really interesting comment, because, listening to this symphony for the first time, reading this I naturally had to skip to the last three minutes, and... even completely out of context, sounded out of this world. Pure continuous invention is simply white noise. This is not white noise: I can't wait to hear the rest of the story.

  • @Karpple
    @Karpple 6 лет назад +6

    Pieza maestra que recoge el espíritu de 1917! -Masterpiece that collects the spirit of 1917!

  • @raya2079
    @raya2079 10 лет назад +6

    A brilliant work of course, Shostakovich was incapable of writing anything less than brilliant, but it suffers from a major defect: He couldn't put his heart into it, this is also why he never produced a finished Lenin symphony. With the horrors of Stalinism surrounding him and the ideas of Lenin long buried, Shostakovich- a committed socialist- proved unable to overcome his dismal surroundings. Which is why his 11th symphony is so much better- Shostakovich was entirely in sympathy with the 1905 revolution and with the Hungarian socialists who rebelled against Stalinism.

    • @davidluck7285
      @davidluck7285 9 лет назад +6

      Hungarian "socialists"? Thanks for the LOL

    • @alejandroperezortiz7553
      @alejandroperezortiz7553 4 года назад

      I agree with you, shoshtakovich in this piece try to capture the fight betwween the old Zarist government and the revolustionary struggle, but in mi opinion, tne bilchevist part does not completes enough the piece, i say, the clearly this is not an epica victory, or contundent march, is like a dance betwween the old and the new governments, both equal in violence, i think that sadly he couldnt capture the "Lenin" spirit in thhe october revolution of 1917, but he catches te fight, maybe personal, stalins russia and the popular spirit of first year of bolcheviq government. The point of making a better symphny about the reovlution of 1905 is a very important point, he is taking in counta an antedecent that can easily captures what he cannot do in the 1917 revolution, What a topic.

  • @rodrirom305
    @rodrirom305 10 лет назад +3

    Dmitri Dmítrievich Shostakóvich (1906 - 1975)
    Sinfonía nº 12, Op. 112 "El año de 1917", En recuerdo a Vladímir Ilich Lenin. 1961 (Esta controvertida dedicatoria aún es estudiada por musicólogos y politólogos, pues no se sabe con certeza si fue impuesta o no al compositor por parte del ese entonces régimén soviético)
    I. La revolucionaria ciudad de Petrogrado (Moderato - Allegro).
    II. Razliv (Adagio).
    III. Aurora (Allegro - scherzo).
    IV. El amanecer de la Humanidad (Allegro - L'istesso tempo).

  • @6G9S06
    @6G9S06 12 лет назад +5

    So I was looking to kind of like March Slav Tchaikovsky symphony or a symphony of mozart and FINALLY I discovered another gem!

  • @technik-lexikon
    @technik-lexikon 2 года назад +5

    28:53 this rhythm

  • @cjparker25
    @cjparker25 7 лет назад +10

    PHANTOM 2017

  • @nicolascoxon8564
    @nicolascoxon8564 3 года назад +2

    Along with Symphony No 15, my two favourite of DSCH's symphonies. Whether or not one agrees with the historical dedication behind it, it is in my view a fabulous symphony. Of course, the composer himself didn't agree. He wrote: 'It is terrible....."

  • @AfroPoli
    @AfroPoli 5 лет назад +2

    The 2017 sequel is Justin Bieber.

  • @supernova1969
    @supernova1969 2 года назад +3

    To me, since I heard it first time in 1973, it was the best

  • @parislovesrachmaninoff
    @parislovesrachmaninoff 11 месяцев назад +1

    GOD DAMN. This symphony is chaotic. Shostakovich really gave his all with this one

  • @tragic6162
    @tragic6162 Год назад +1

    Shostakovich looks like Harry when he didnt got accepted to hogwarts

    • @sofiaspiano7892
      @sofiaspiano7892 Год назад

      He started composing at 11. If Harry hadn't been accepted he would have composed like this as well

  • @jesuspardo6262
    @jesuspardo6262 Год назад +1

    Grandiosamente hermosa!!!
    No es para menos, compuesta por un Soviético.

  • @grahamplace2553
    @grahamplace2553 7 лет назад +5

    Here come the phans

  • @josepmir4530
    @josepmir4530 6 лет назад +3

    Today is the day you should listen to this

  • @marcosuluaga8358
    @marcosuluaga8358 4 года назад +3

    Schostakovic definitivamente es el compositor de la epicidad. Grande!

  • @thundermaker313
    @thundermaker313 3 года назад +1

    Hey, RUclips, the Geico and Hero Wars commercials you stuck in at 13:28 totally paired well with music and didn't at all detract from the experience. Seriously though, I know you're using every available chance to blackmail/annoy everybody into buying RUclips Premium, but it's okay to give the algorithm a break once in a while and not be heartless chodes.

    • @GuyKev
      @GuyKev Месяц назад

      the fact that they even allow those hero war ads make me always use an ad blocker

  • @joseletche8989
    @joseletche8989 7 лет назад +1

    uno de los mas grandes genios musicales de todos los tiempos .Gran narrador de la gesta revolucionaria del socialismo , lastima despues traicionado por uno de los gestores de la revolucion rusa., llamese Stalin y sus acolitos.grandes sinfonias de Shostakocich: las numedros 12, 11, 10, 9 , 8 y 5. las demas ,en toal 15 todas excelentes un parrafo aparte merece la n° 14 donde es muy posible que el autor se encontraba mjuy deprimido y compuso una obra teniendo en cuenta su estado de salud.

  • @uToobeD
    @uToobeD Месяц назад

    One thing I find interesting is that this piece would have been began to be played around the time of the Cuban Missile Crisis

  • @Lunilovegood
    @Lunilovegood 7 лет назад +3

    holy shit. this is just glorious

  • @peterluth
    @peterluth 9 лет назад +2

    La 12a è la più complessa di tutte le sinfonie di S e la più fantasiosa.

  • @BillieDavies
    @BillieDavies 9 лет назад +4

    Listen..... it all makes sense ... :)

  • @rybakostis
    @rybakostis 5 месяцев назад

    I'm curious, who's the conductor and the orchestra? this is trully the best rendition of this masterpiece

  • @cdb1275
    @cdb1275 12 лет назад +1

    Blimey, them Ruskies can turn out a good tune. He looks a bit scary in that photo. Anyway, sshhhh, I'm trying to listen

  • @ogredad55
    @ogredad55 10 лет назад +2

    Thanks so much for posting. God bless you!
    Bob

  • @lionelagarde
    @lionelagarde 12 лет назад +2

    Amazing version but who is the conductor ? the orchestra ?

  • @solaci0
    @solaci0 4 года назад +3

    isso é muito bom

  • @suelaker7618
    @suelaker7618 7 лет назад +1

    Really enjoying rehearsing this epic symphony with the Southampton Concert Orchestra for 10th June at Romsey Abbey. We're not as good as this lot, but I'm loving getting to know the piece so much better by playing it!

  • @YangBalanceYin
    @YangBalanceYin 20 дней назад

    The beginning of this is wild...

  • @bobsutton4320
    @bobsutton4320 7 лет назад +1

    This symphony may sound nice, but when compared to the symphonies before and after, it's just a piece of inglorious schlock. I do not think Shostakovich was particularly inspired while writing it.

    • @garydavis9361
      @garydavis9361 4 года назад

      If he were as self critical as Brahms, this would never had seen the light of day. But it's not exactly schlock either.

  • @klematiszszimonettarose1797
    @klematiszszimonettarose1797 5 лет назад +1

    I heard the first 3 minutes somewhere already, but don't remember where...

  • @ren_popp
    @ren_popp 5 лет назад +2

    The cymbals at 28:33 scared me so bad I screamed and fell out of my chair.

    • @RaySpartan315
      @RaySpartan315 5 лет назад

      I know right? Gave me a good scare.

  • @aju1912
    @aju1912 7 лет назад +3

    It's just amazing

  • @sxhmeatyclaws
    @sxhmeatyclaws 7 лет назад +3

    PHANTOM 2017

  • @Historiarct
    @Historiarct 12 лет назад +2

    Remarkable, Breathtaking..

  • @drumdilly
    @drumdilly 7 лет назад +3

    Get it Phantom

  • @Audrey-po7fu
    @Audrey-po7fu Год назад +1

    10:55

  • @Steverogers-s8k
    @Steverogers-s8k 5 лет назад +1

    Medal of honor european assault and vanguard and heroes. Oh the classics operas. 😭💖

  • @echoenigma145
    @echoenigma145 9 лет назад +4

    love this piece!

  • @stradfenrir
    @stradfenrir 9 лет назад +1

    人類の夜明け~戦艦アウロラの砲撃シーンが、やや大人しいかも知れないが、
    フィナーレに至って、重厚さよりも躍動感を感じさせる内容になってると思う。

  • @gcvisse
    @gcvisse 7 лет назад +2

    un immense chef d'œuvre

  • @joseletche8989
    @joseletche8989 7 лет назад +1

    olvide nombrar la sinfonia n° 7 , llamada Leningrado, otra genialidad

  • @HorrorrificFun
    @HorrorrificFun 4 года назад +1

    I keep hearing these folk talking about how sad it is that not more people listen to classical music but in reality that is very elitist and kind of hurts the image of classical music. In reality many symphonies are just dragging on for way too long for most people to enjoy on top of the fact that many movies and video games use music simular to it backed with stunning visuals , its no wonder most people simply dont listen to this stuff. If you like it , good on you. But flexing your classical music interests just makes you seem insecure and pretentious. Just enjoy the music and stay in your lane.

    • @georgepark2138
      @georgepark2138 4 года назад +2

      This symphony, and for that matter, most of Shostakovitch's symphonies are for the more serious classical music devotee. I've listened to Classical since I was 8 years old (now 76). For a beginner, they need lots of tunes (Tchaikovsky, Strauss, jr, etc). For more advanced - Mozart, Haydn, R. Strauss, Beethoven. For the REAL lover - Shostakovitch, Mahler, Wagner.

    • @ultimapower6950
      @ultimapower6950 26 дней назад

      Well funnily enough I’m both a Video Game Music Enjoyer and a Classical Music Enjoyer, make of that what you will.

  • @FernandoGuilhermeLopesdaSilva
    @FernandoGuilhermeLopesdaSilva 8 лет назад +3

    Um Génio!

  • @TankTaur
    @TankTaur 12 лет назад +2

    Yes! Fantastic!
    More one-video symphonies, please!

  • @sydneyvaughan3527
    @sydneyvaughan3527 8 месяцев назад

    Shostakovich is like if a “slave ship” from earlier movies met Star Wars. At any moment someone could be jumping overboard or engaging in a light saber battle.

  • @JavierJulianAyarzaCa
    @JavierJulianAyarzaCa 11 лет назад +2

    sencillamente maravilloso

  • @Hyalthin
    @Hyalthin 7 лет назад +1

    Amazing! But is it just me who finds similarities with starwars music around 3:00-6:00 ?

    • @MohamadAmerulZufar
      @MohamadAmerulZufar 2 года назад

      Clearly the composer for Star Wars was inspired by Shostakovich.

  • @hedienghelberg3828
    @hedienghelberg3828 5 лет назад +4

    The finales is a "recycle" of his major 7th Symphony, Leningrad....1942....

  • @crazyelliexxxx23
    @crazyelliexxxx23 11 лет назад +2

    INCREDIBLE!!

  • @igornevesgumaraes3782
    @igornevesgumaraes3782 10 лет назад +2

    Muito bom mesmo! Amei!

  • @wimbly2115
    @wimbly2115 2 года назад +1

    Why shostakovich kinda

  • @poirrot2011
    @poirrot2011 10 лет назад +1

    fear of death and listening to the sea