Aesthetically this is my favourite trainset, the front remembers my car (Fiat Grande Punto)... indeed the designer is the same, Italdesign Giugiaro. Excellent job in my opinion!
Eccellent trip report! In my opinion The Frecciargento ETR600 is one of the most beautiful trains in Italy, but it is a bit noise when it runs at 250 km/h!
Just my two cents: the rattling is probably rather caused by the line than by the train. I recently travelled on the same line on Freccia 1000 and it was rattling too. Florence - Rome is the oldest high speed line in Italy (and one of the oldest in Europe, I guess it was opened in 1977 between Chiusi and Rome) and it's also shared with non high speed trains. And I read somewhere that the 3000V system doesn't allow increasing of the speed beyond 250 (not sure whether it's true but anyway).
@@NonstopEurotripsorry for the HUGE delay in this explanation. My brother is a driver on these train sets. He explained me that, due to the tilting mechanism occupying a lot of space on the bogies, the suspensions are smaller and, generally speaking, a little more harder compared to the rest of the ones mounted on the others high speed train sets that we have in Italy
Thank you for your trip report, Nonstop eurotrip !!! We travel and we love it. However, excuse me for making you a small remark, but this is only my opinion, indeed I find that the subtitles that you put in blue are painful to read. You do a great job, your channel is very beautiful, beautiful train plans and all, it's just a question of legibility of your writing. This only binds me. Thanks to you !
Excellent review. I travel extensively by train in Italy and like other commentators, I find the ride on the Frecciargento trains very uncomfortable at high speeds. Unfortunately this is unavoidable on tilting trains with active suspension systems. Also I find the second class seats very narrow and uncomfortable, so I always prefer to travel on a Frecciarossa (ETR 500) or Italo train if possible.
A nice video. Although etr600 looks great, it's suspension is in my view below par. It shakes a lot at high speed... Not really providing one with a smooth ride. The design is however very nice.
I took one of these from Florence to Bologna via high speed rail. My sit was by the window next to the opposite track. When we met a Frecciarossa in a tunnel at the total speed of 550 kph (250 Frecciargento + 300 Frecciarossa) my eardrums were about to blow up. I admit that my ears are very sensitive to quick pressure changes but i don't have the same problem on other trains. Not to mantion an annoying noise coming from the bogie. The old good etr 485 is way more silent and better isolated from external air preassure.
Oh I don't know the 485s are not a great ride either and the pressure change was probably compounded by the tunnel and passing the Frecciarossa. Thanks for the comment 😁🇮🇹
@@NonstopEurotrip I experienced the same situation on in a tunnel of the Rome-Naples hsr and i had no problems at all. So i think it depends on the 600. Anyway interiors are way more spacious and ergonomic on the 600.
The Pendolino that exists in Poland (ETR600) is Italian like the Pendolino that in Italy is called: "Frecciargento". The Frecciargento is the cheapest high-speed train, and does not exceed 250 km per hour. The Frecciarossa 1000, can reach the speed of 400 km per hour, and as a comfort it is the best in Europe, Italo Train, new Frecciargento (ETR700), and Frecciabianca (ETR 460) speed max 200 km per hour.
@@Maloenton-Agency superb! are u happy now? u have to know that Poland is still a developing country. Polish national rail company opened a tender for a new high speed trains. Finally maybe from a polish company with a new project. We should work together, not fight, please💁♂️ Because now it looks like a who has a longer dick
@@anthonycubadugosz109 look you're wrong ... i love poland. I just said that the Italian and the Polish pendolino are the same thing. the fact that in Italy there is also the frecciarossa and italo, it was to say that the best trains, in Italy are these ... poland is not a developing country ... it is like all other countries in Europe . peace & love!
Ah theese trains are so uncomfortable when they reach higher speeds, but they are very much reliable and they do well what they were bought to. Italian train drivers call them “ducks” because of the long nose. Even chinese railways owns them,check them out.
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These trains are the workhorses for high-speed lines in Italy and are fantastic.
They are good, but could do with better legroom and less rattles 😂
Nice trip report! I love express Italian trains!
Me too!
Thank you for sharing this awesome trip report. This is such a beautiful train on the interior as wel as the exterior!!!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Aesthetically this is my favourite trainset, the front remembers my car (Fiat Grande Punto)... indeed the designer is the same, Italdesign Giugiaro. Excellent job in my opinion!
Haha I can see the resemblance 😂
Very nice Rewiew of an Italian high speed train
Thanks!
Eccellent trip report! In my opinion The Frecciargento ETR600 is one of the most beautiful trains in Italy, but it is a bit noise when it runs at 250 km/h!
And a bit rattly 😂
@@NonstopEurotrip 😂😂! Anyway non I’m going to watch other videoes!
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Nice report! I hope to take this exact trip once we can travel again so I greatly appreciate seeing it. Stay safe!
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it 🙂
Io adoro questo modello del frecciargento! Se non erro e l'etr 600. Fantastico😍😍
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Thanks one more time !!!
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Excellent video 😊😁
Thanks 🙏🏻
Just my two cents: the rattling is probably rather caused by the line than by the train. I recently travelled on the same line on Freccia 1000 and it was rattling too. Florence - Rome is the oldest high speed line in Italy (and one of the oldest in Europe, I guess it was opened in 1977 between Chiusi and Rome) and it's also shared with non high speed trains. And I read somewhere that the 3000V system doesn't allow increasing of the speed beyond 250 (not sure whether it's true but anyway).
Yeah you're probably right! These trains do seem to rattle slightly more than others though, I've noticed it with the SBB version too 🤷🏻♂️
@@NonstopEurotripsorry for the HUGE delay in this explanation. My brother is a driver on these train sets. He explained me that, due to the tilting mechanism occupying a lot of space on the bogies, the suspensions are smaller and, generally speaking, a little more harder compared to the rest of the ones mounted on the others high speed train sets that we have in Italy
Thank you for your trip report, Nonstop eurotrip !!! We travel and we love it. However, excuse me for making you a small remark, but this is only my opinion, indeed I find that the subtitles that you put in blue are painful to read. You do a great job, your channel is very beautiful, beautiful train plans and all, it's just a question of legibility of your writing. This only binds me. Thanks to you !
Thanks for the comment... I honestly don't see the problem with the subtitle colour and neither do lots of my friends that I've asked... strange!
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Hi, maybe it's due to my computer settings.
Excellent review. I travel extensively by train in Italy and like other commentators, I find the ride on the Frecciargento trains very uncomfortable at high speeds. Unfortunately this is unavoidable on tilting trains with active suspension systems. Also I find the second class seats very narrow and uncomfortable, so I always prefer to travel on a Frecciarossa (ETR 500) or Italo train if possible.
I couldn't agree more... I've got both Frecciarossa and Italo new reviews coming up soon 👌🏻🙂
I have lived in Italy for years and I have never been to the capital .. and it is something unforgivable
Wow! Make that your plan this year 🙂🇮🇹
I've been on both Frecciargento and the ETR 485 is definitely more comfortable. It's a lot smoother at high speed.
amazing video btw
Thanks, I prefer the ETR600 😍
I tried to sleep in one of those seats but I kept slipping off the headrest.
Sad times 😔
Nice Italian pendolino train nice interior and toilet and would you try this service again when the catering resumes again
There was limited catering on some other Italian Highspeed trains I've filmed so it's coming back slowly!
@@NonstopEurotrip that's good
Nice grees train report Italian vonderfull
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Nice!
Found out your Interesting Channel thru Dylan's Channel 😍😍
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it!
I do like the Italo AGV train that arrived on the other platform, quite a beast! 🇬🇧 Then your train arrived 😆
I agree with you there 😃🇮🇹
I find that your videos quality is a lot better in all aspects than your direct competition “Simply Railway”
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Wow this is a real cool video. Nice job .Well done ;) Subbed to your channel.Greetings 😉😉👍👍👍👍
Thanks. Glad you enjoyed it!
Nice, thank you
Thanks for watching! 😊
A nice video. Although etr600 looks great, it's suspension is in my view below par. It shakes a lot at high speed... Not really providing one with a smooth ride. The design is however very nice.
I agree!
I took one of these from Florence to Bologna via high speed rail. My sit was by the window next to the opposite track. When we met a Frecciarossa in a tunnel at the total speed of 550 kph (250 Frecciargento + 300 Frecciarossa) my eardrums were about to blow up. I admit that my ears are very sensitive to quick pressure changes but i don't have the same problem on other trains. Not to mantion an annoying noise coming from the bogie. The old good etr 485 is way more silent and better isolated from external air preassure.
Oh I don't know the 485s are not a great ride either and the pressure change was probably compounded by the tunnel and passing the Frecciarossa. Thanks for the comment 😁🇮🇹
@@NonstopEurotrip I experienced the same situation on in a tunnel of the Rome-Naples hsr and i had no problems at all. So i think it depends on the 600.
Anyway interiors are way more spacious and ergonomic on the 600.
@@fecciargento5102 yeah I agree with that 😃👍🏻
This is our last tilting train
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Thank you for the beautiful image. Once Corona has settled down, I would like to travel to Italy and board the high-speed train.
You definitely should, it's amazing 😁
It's curious that the Frecciargento ETR 700 hasn't yet 1st and 2nd class. Now it has Standard class, Bussiness class and Premium class.
Maybe they're bringing it in line with Frecciarossa sets
@@NonstopEurotrip Perhaps!
I didn't see the phone jack...
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you should check also polish pendolino, in my opinion it’s a lot better than italian
I've been on them all except the polish one... This this hopefully! 🇵🇱
The Pendolino that exists in Poland (ETR600) is Italian like the Pendolino that in Italy is called: "Frecciargento". The Frecciargento is the cheapest high-speed train, and does not exceed 250 km per hour. The Frecciarossa 1000, can reach the speed of 400 km per hour, and as a comfort it is the best in Europe, Italo Train, new Frecciargento (ETR700), and Frecciabianca (ETR 460) speed max 200 km per hour.
@@Maloenton-Agency superb! are u happy now? u have to know that Poland is still a developing country. Polish national rail company opened a tender for a new high speed trains. Finally maybe from a polish company with a new project. We should work together, not fight, please💁♂️ Because now it looks like a who has a longer dick
@@anthonycubadugosz109 look you're wrong ... i love poland. I just said that the Italian and the Polish pendolino are the same thing. the fact that in Italy there is also the frecciarossa and italo, it was to say that the best trains, in Italy are these ... poland is not a developing country ... it is like all other countries in Europe . peace & love!
There's the same train in Poland.
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Italy have a great trains I would say better than Amtrack and Via rail.
Definitely 🤣
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Ah theese trains are so uncomfortable when they reach higher speeds, but they are very much reliable and they do well what they were bought to. Italian train drivers call them “ducks” because of the long nose. Even chinese railways owns them,check them out.
It seems if the train has a long nose then it's called a duck 🦆 like the AVE112 too 🇪🇸😅
This is because the Pendolinos are tilting trains and therefore have no air suspension.
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NOTICED EVERYONE everyone WITH MASKS ON.
This was Summer 2020 too...
Stazione di Firenze S.M.N, costruita nel 1934 da Mussolini, in meno di due anni, per quel periodo venne considerata una stazione avveniristica, aveva e ce l'ha tuttora, il primo orologio digitale del mondo.