I love your videos. Back in 2019 I stayed in a hotel in Florence which was just around the Santa Maria Novella railway station and I used to love seeing all types of trains from my hotel balcony. Now since i am down with corona watching this Italo video from my bed makes me nostalgic and also cherish the pre pandemic travel scenes
Glad you're enjoying the videos! I too have stayed in a hotel right next to Santa Maria Novella church and had a great time. Hopefully you can get travelling again soon! 😁
Starting from the fact that I used to be a frequent "rider" before the pandemic, I do prefer Frecciarossa services for the variety of food they offer on board. In the restaurant/bistrot coach you can find a fresher offer compared to Italo vending machines, which I personally don't like so much. Obviously, Executive service cannot be compared to Italo's Club service since they offer a complete meal, where Italo offer at most a carton of packed panini and sweets (excluding Trenitalia's armchairs...). The only relevant comparison is between Business/Prima classes for the snack they do provide (equivalent in my opinion) and the seats. This said, Italo seats are generally more comfortable than Frecciarossa 1000 seats, they are softer and more reclinable so Italo can be a better choice when it comes to a long ride. It is really up to people (and prices) which best choice is. Both services are generally great compared to other European experiences I had so far, maybe only Spanish trains offer high level services as the Italians but still I like the design of Italian trains' interiors.
Yep, I agree with everything you've said. For longer journeys I would pick Frecciarossa, but both are comparable upto 1-2 hours or so. 🇮🇹 And an AVE in Preferente 😍🇪🇦
@@jet9465 Ti rimborsano dopo un'ora di ritardo invece che 30 minuti. Magari è più comodo il sedile sui lunghi viaggi però credo che non sia meglio o peggio, sono due servizi con pregi e difetti.
@@NonstopEurotrip Random fact, Renfe will no longer offer ‘Turista’ and ‘Preferente’ seats, they will change the names this summer and call them ‘Standard’ and ‘Comfort’ instead.
Lovely video!! I enjoyed this a lot and it’s most relaxing. Italian trains, in particular the Frecciarossa, are of a great standard. Thanks for the trip!! ☺️👍
That is even a High Speed Nigh Train But only the National Carrier (Trenitalia) serves it. it's called "Frecciarossa Notte" from Turin to Reggio Calabria with some connection to Sicily.
Ah yes..this is what I remember. We did Rome to Venice. Could have flown but I wanted the kids to experience high speed rail travel. They loved it and talk non stop about how we are missing out here in the USA with no rail service the likes of Europe. We also took a regular trenitalia train from Spoleto to Rome. Love the italo livery.
Excellent!!! Maybe more Americans like you who've experienced European highspeed rail, would push for it more in the USA... It's a shame, they probably think it's slow and infrequent like Amtrak... Glad you liked the video! 😎👍🏻
@@NonstopEurotrip unfortunately, most Americans are not well travelled and don't appreciate travel beyond our boarder....don't get me wrong, there are some spectacular things to see here.... however, I would much rather spend $10k on a trip to Italy/France/Croatia/whatever...then spend the same on a trip to Disney (done that too....but....come on!). Travel has been something we have shared with our kids and the benefit they have gotten from meeting new people from different cultures, seeing new things and experiencing different foods have made them both unique individuals. Also, one does not need to be wealthy to travel well ...just smart and be able to to make sacrifices to make it work. I, personally, would rather have a smaller house and a cheaper car but be able to to take trips here in America or throughout the world...If more people understood other people, maybe we would not have no much chaos in the world.
@@jeadie2273 The funny thing is that NTV Italo is 72% owned by the American fund "Global Infrastructure Partners" in New York, which bought the company from the Italian founding partners a few years ago. This shows that investing in trains is good business, but the oil lobbies does not allow it in America. Americans have to burn oil driving and flying
I've already used Italo between Rome - Firenze - Rome and there Italo reach 280km/h. I've travelled Prima class wich is real nice in my opinion with really good prices if booked in advance. In the return trip back to Rome, Italo had a delay of almost 30m due to infrastructure issues, they said.
We rided Italo Treno from Rome to Florence and back to Rome, also Rome to Venice . The Flecharosa from Venice to Milano Centrale. All of them great trips. Thanks from Buenos Aires.
I travelled in Frecciarossa ETR 500 and Italo AGV, and from the passenger point of view, I prefer Frecciarossa, though AGV technically wins hands down, of course. But there is still the FR 1000 to try out, for me the best and most beautiful of all highspeed trains, not only in Europe. I was in Italo EVO when it was first presented on Expoferroviaria in Milan. Had the opportunity to sit and take pictures behind the driver's controls, too :)
In October 2019 I traveled from Naples to Venice on Frecciarossa. It was a very pleasant trip of 5 hours and 5 minutes. I have not taken Italo, but will consider it for my next Italian train trip,.
I thoroughly enjoyed your review. The Italo Evo is certainly a wonderful train, though I have yet to ride a Frecciarossa service. The fare seemed excellent value also !
Really enjoyed the trip sitting in the suburb village in india! Our village is really scenic with mountains on all three sides like the suburbs of napples. Thanks for the beautiful picturisation
A lot of trains have onboard cleaners who come through while on the move and clear trash and wipe touchpoints. Then they're cleaned more thoroughly at the end of the route.
Great video! This train looks very nice and comfortable. Otherwise, the Prima class looks much better than the Club Executive class, especially the legroom between the facing seats seems like a joke to me :-D
Thank you, nonstop eurotrip! Decent, classic and well-made video. You are very attracted to active volcanoes. Also, for the third time, I allow myself to ask you the question: would you like to live near an active volcano? Maybe I could convince you. Thanks for submitting to a video of Dylan. Thanks to you !!! (Google Translate)
I’ve just been on this train for the first time ever as I was really curious … it was such a rough ride not gonna lie … people even said “Omg!” At times , I had the impression the train was going off course … it was traveling maximum speed and it felt similar to a plane when there’s turbulence . It also feels smooth but .. it was definitely shaking a lot and it feels like you’re pushed back into the seat . The other Italo train the AGV is the smoothest ride ever . Definitely my favorite train from a passenger perspective . It’s as if it’s gliding on the rails . Frecciarossa 1000 remains my favorite train overall , from and aesthetic point of view as well as the seats ecc . The only train I need to ride now it’s the Fyra from Trenitalia . I’ve been on all of them
What type of camera do you use, and how discreet do you have to be while filming on the trains? Also, do you get many objections from people not wanting to be seen on your videos?
I've travelled on both on the route you described. I can't say there is no big difference except that Italotreno often beats Trenitalia by up to 10 euros on the price. They've both gotten a bit pricy in the last few months. Trenitalia has a few more daily trains. And if you have to transfer and miss a connection onto the national Trenitalia system Italo can't help you with a free new ticket. I missed the regional to Spoleto as Trenitalia was late out of Naples and they happily rewrote the ticket at Rome. Italo Marchini
8:33 what train type is the “devil”? Frecciargento ETR 485? 14:04 so far I have traveled only on the Frecciarossa (ETR500), but Italo is definitely on my bucket list! And I really hope we get a high speed competitor here in Germany too!
@@mma_zaa Various types of trains are used for Frecciargento. So I guess it’s the ETR485, right? Are they really that bad? I for example actually like the SuperCity Pendolino trains in the Czech Republic, which are based on the italian ETR470/485 (they are all from the 3rd generation of Pendolinos). I haven’t traveled on the italian one yet.
@@sxflyer5410 the pendolino's type on the video is not so good, with or without high speed tracks, it's very noisy. Often there is a noise like something such as traytable that isn't attached so well and make horrible sounds.
I have only been on the Frecciarossa ETR500 and the Frecciargento ETR 600. I found both to be very good although I did prefer the ETR 500 as the ride quality was better. Paid €19 for the non stop trip between Rome and Milan as an advanced fare for standard class and thought this was excellent value for money for the comfort, speed and distance covered. I would like to try out Italo at some point in the future.
@@NonstopEurotrip yes I agree. I also found it a bit more cramped. Don't get me wrong it was still a step up to most the trains we had in England at the time though 🤣 I find the 4x4 seating on the etr 500 also gives it a more spacious feel. And I like the fact that it means the seats actually line up with the windows which is again an issue for quite a lot of trains.
@@NonstopEurotrip I would think the cost of putting on a buffet service is more than €4 a seat by the time you add up the seats forgone and wages etc. In which case Italo has charged you more for the seat than Trenitalia does. The problem with the competition model is that often people can’t truely compare products and make decisions based solely on price. In which case you can end up in a race to the bottom.
Considering the infrastructure in Italy, I don't quite understand the choice of this type of trainset: they are to slow to to make the full use of 300km/h lines and being non tilting Pendolinos (so technically no longer even Pendolinos, since the word Pendolino roots in latin "pendulum"), they can not shave off travel time on traditional lines. They can only develop their full potential on Florence-Rome where the speed limit is 250. Or did Italo buy them only to save some money? Nice trains otherwise.
These trains run mainly on Venice routes, as to reach this famous city, train has to run mainly on conventional lines. For the main TAV network between Turin - Milan - Rome - Naples, Italo has AGVs.
@@markoobid2005 Exactly that's the reason for asking why they opted for the non tilting version. I remember travelling between Venice and Bologna on both, Frecciargento and Frecciarossa and Frecciargento was actually faster because of its tilting ability (though there are only a few sections with pronounced curves on that line, but imagine if they extend their service to Bolzano, Ancona, Bari etc.).
As well as I remember you are right. Yes, Frecciarossa bought those trainsets to save money. They were in big financial trouble and AGV were too expensive for them. But they needed new trainsets. That is the reason of those Alstom trains.
Every trains without proper maintenance won't offer a quality ride...right now here in Italy seems to exists only the Frecciarossa 1000...other trains are literally broken down with less and less maintenance. It's a shame the 485's are not well maintaned anymore, i always loved the Pendolino's train.
@@NonstopEurotrip Externally. But lot of vibrations and noises are coming from the bogeys and the wheels that's are not receiving a good maintenance anymore. And that's ruining the travel comfort. Add the fact that the internal are the same from the last big renovation (10-15 years ago more or less) and voila', this is the situation of those trains. They won't enter Frecciarossa segment, so i think their destiny is Greece, like the 470's. The 460's...well, it seems their destiny is the demolition.
Today I watched a technical report on German TV about this train based on a journey from Milan to Rome at 300 km / h. A disaster occurred during a scheduled stop, at least when it happened in Germany was perceived as a medium disaster: "Cars are in reverse order" (Wagen in umgekehrter Reihenfolge). The Italians pushed through each other just as headlessly, so the train started its onward journey with a 2-minute delay. As a German, I had a lot of fun. - Greetings to all fans of high speed trains, Heinz
These trains don't run from Milan to Rome or do 300kmh. That would be the AGV. Italy has its fair share of late trains, I've seen some that have been 180-240+ late, although I know Germany is known for similar problems 😂
every single country should have these special trains, but the seats should face opposite each passenger to give privacy. there are special very nice buses sleeper in Brazil, also there was a very nice train o Prata, but disappear, what a shame. how about the trans siberia train so nice the private cabines including shower and the dinning $18,000 this transsiberia train
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Hi nonstop Eurotrip. I was just going to say your videos are great cool and relaxing
That's nice to hear, thank you! 😁
I love your videos. Back in 2019 I stayed in a hotel in Florence which was just around the Santa Maria Novella railway station and I used to love seeing all types of trains from my hotel balcony. Now since i am down with corona watching this Italo video from my bed makes me nostalgic and also cherish the pre pandemic travel scenes
Glad you're enjoying the videos! I too have stayed in a hotel right next to Santa Maria Novella church and had a great time. Hopefully you can get travelling again soon! 😁
Love the smart red color of these trains!! Thank you for sharing.😀😀
I've got a review on this trains bigger brother coming soon 😄
@@NonstopEurotrip looking forward to your review
Amazing video as always... and the trainset looks gorgeous. Thanks!
Thanks so much 😁
Thanks for showing Italian landscape.
Glad you enjoyed it 🙂
Starting from the fact that I used to be a frequent "rider" before the pandemic, I do prefer Frecciarossa services for the variety of food they offer on board. In the restaurant/bistrot coach you can find a fresher offer compared to Italo vending machines, which I personally don't like so much. Obviously, Executive service cannot be compared to Italo's Club service since they offer a complete meal, where Italo offer at most a carton of packed panini and sweets (excluding Trenitalia's armchairs...). The only relevant comparison is between Business/Prima classes for the snack they do provide (equivalent in my opinion) and the seats. This said, Italo seats are generally more comfortable than Frecciarossa 1000 seats, they are softer and more reclinable so Italo can be a better choice when it comes to a long ride. It is really up to people (and prices) which best choice is. Both services are generally great compared to other European experiences I had so far, maybe only Spanish trains offer high level services as the Italians but still I like the design of Italian trains' interiors.
Yep, I agree with everything you've said. For longer journeys I would pick Frecciarossa, but both are comparable upto 1-2 hours or so. 🇮🇹 And an AVE in Preferente 😍🇪🇦
Italo è meglio della freccia
@@jet9465 Ti rimborsano dopo un'ora di ritardo invece che 30 minuti. Magari è più comodo il sedile sui lunghi viaggi però credo che non sia meglio o peggio, sono due servizi con pregi e difetti.
@@NonstopEurotrip Random fact, Renfe will no longer offer ‘Turista’ and ‘Preferente’ seats, they will change the names this summer and call them ‘Standard’ and ‘Comfort’ instead.
I know I am kind of off topic but do anyone know of a good site to stream newly released movies online ?
Lovely video!! I enjoyed this a lot and it’s most relaxing. Italian trains, in particular the Frecciarossa, are of a great standard. Thanks for the trip!! ☺️👍
Thank you very much!
@@NonstopEurotrip You’re welcome 😉
Amazing review of the italo novo very luxurious train
Thanks Dan, but I think I still prefer the Frecciarossa 1000 😁
@@NonstopEurotrip true
Thoroughly enjoyed the video! The train looks impressive :-)
Excellent, glad you liked it 😁🇮🇹
I took this train from Naples t Venice to fly home. Loved it! 😎
Any sleeper train review coming in the near future? And as always great review.
Intercity Notte - Milan to Sicily, but seeing as EVERYONE was doing them I thought I'd wait a bit 😂🇮🇹
That is even a High Speed Nigh Train
But only the National Carrier (Trenitalia) serves it.
it's called "Frecciarossa Notte" from Turin to Reggio Calabria with some connection to Sicily.
Marvelous ! 👍
Thank you! 🤗
absolutely brilliant design
I know right 😊
Ah yes..this is what I remember. We did Rome to Venice. Could have flown but I wanted the kids to experience high speed rail travel. They loved it and talk non stop about how we are missing out here in the USA with no rail service the likes of Europe. We also took a regular trenitalia train from Spoleto to Rome. Love the italo livery.
Excellent!!! Maybe more Americans like you who've experienced European highspeed rail, would push for it more in the USA... It's a shame, they probably think it's slow and infrequent like Amtrak... Glad you liked the video! 😎👍🏻
@@NonstopEurotrip unfortunately, most Americans are not well travelled and don't appreciate travel beyond our boarder....don't get me wrong, there are some spectacular things to see here.... however, I would much rather spend $10k on a trip to Italy/France/Croatia/whatever...then spend the same on a trip to Disney (done that too....but....come on!). Travel has been something we have shared with our kids and the benefit they have gotten from meeting new people from different cultures, seeing new things and experiencing different foods have made them both unique individuals. Also, one does not need to be wealthy to travel well ...just smart and be able to to make sacrifices to make it work. I, personally, would rather have a smaller house and a cheaper car but be able to to take trips here in America or throughout the world...If more people understood other people, maybe we would not have no much chaos in the world.
@@jeadie2273 couldn't have said it better myself 😃
@@jeadie2273 The funny thing is that NTV Italo is 72% owned by the American fund "Global Infrastructure Partners" in New York, which bought the company from the Italian founding partners a few years ago. This shows that investing in trains is good business, but the oil lobbies does not allow it in America. Americans have to burn oil driving and flying
I’m very impressed…love the Spanish trains!!!
It's Italian 😂🇮🇹
@@NonstopEurotrip oops…sorry about that-it’s still a great train!!!👍🏽😁
I've already used Italo between Rome - Firenze - Rome and there Italo reach 280km/h. I've travelled Prima class wich is real nice in my opinion with really good prices if booked in advance. In the return trip back to Rome, Italo had a delay of almost 30m due to infrastructure issues, they said.
Prima is the best value imo 😁
ENJOYABLE VIDEO. THANKS.
THANKS 👍🏻
Yes hope to travel by this train in italy next year if all is well..
You'll love it! 😀
Great video
Thank you!
We rided Italo Treno from Rome to Florence and back to Rome, also Rome to Venice . The Flecharosa from Venice to Milano Centrale. All of them great trips. Thanks from Buenos Aires.
Thanks for watching and glad you enjoyed the Italian trains ☺️🇮🇹
FRECCIAROSSA
I travelled in Frecciarossa ETR 500 and Italo AGV, and from the passenger point of view, I prefer Frecciarossa, though AGV technically wins hands down, of course. But there is still the FR 1000 to try out, for me the best and most beautiful of all highspeed trains, not only in Europe.
I was in Italo EVO when it was first presented on Expoferroviaria in Milan. Had the opportunity to sit and take pictures behind the driver's controls, too :)
Ooh exciting 🙂 the FR1000 is much better than the 500 for me and I'm actually yet to try an AGV 🤣
Very impressive and beautiful.
Thank you! 😎
Great video !!
Thanks! 👌🏻
4:02 Yes, it looks brilliant
13:55 I don't know.
14:47 Video's final score: 8.8
Thank you Pedro glad you enjoyed it 😁🇪🇦
@@NonstopEurotrip Yes, I enjoyed it. See you next Friday on RUclips or on Instagram at any time
Nice train .. good report !!!
Thank you ☺️
Looks good
It is 😁🇮🇹
Thanks for the trip.
At Lourdes, France, we also have a TGV station. It's convenient to come and pray with us.
God bless you.
Thanks! I've been to Lourdes actually 😄
Love you ❤️❤️
In October 2019 I traveled from Naples to Venice on Frecciarossa. It was a very pleasant trip of 5 hours and 5 minutes. I have not taken Italo, but will consider it for my next Italian train trip,.
Excellent! They are very much the same tbh ☺️👌🏻
I thoroughly enjoyed your review. The Italo Evo is certainly a wonderful train, though I have yet to ride a Frecciarossa service. The fare seemed excellent value also !
Yes it's pretty good! Glad you enjoyed it ☺️
Fantastic journey
Thanks! ☺️
I have travelled in Italo train from Bologna to Fierenze to and fro. Quite impressive, even for a second class.
Yes, it's pretty good isn't it! ☺️
Super video. Please contribute more such videos
There's many already on the channel ☺️
Really enjoyed the trip sitting in the suburb village in india!
Our village is really scenic with mountains on all three sides like the suburbs of napples.
Thanks for the beautiful picturisation
Glad you enjoyed it! 😃
After this Video:
Frecciarossa Business Class!
It's coming up soon 😉
Do the trains get cleaned inside at each stop, at the arrival points each way, or during other times in the day? Great videos! Thanks from Texas, US….
A lot of trains have onboard cleaners who come through while on the move and clear trash and wipe touchpoints. Then they're cleaned more thoroughly at the end of the route.
Great video! This train looks very nice and comfortable. Otherwise, the Prima class looks much better than the Club Executive class, especially the legroom between the facing seats seems like a joke to me :-D
Thank you Pete! For the price, Prima is much better value! Hope you're ok mate! 😃👍🏻
Thank you, nonstop eurotrip! Decent, classic and well-made video. You are very attracted to active volcanoes. Also, for the third time, I allow myself to ask you the question: would you like to live near an active volcano? Maybe I could convince you. Thanks for submitting to a video of Dylan. Thanks to you !!! (Google Translate)
No! I don't want to live by an active volcano 🌋😂 I'm glad you enjoyed this video 😎😎😎
I’ve just been on this train for the first time ever as I was really curious … it was such a rough ride not gonna lie … people even said “Omg!” At times , I had the impression the train was going off course … it was traveling maximum speed and it felt similar to a plane when there’s turbulence . It also feels smooth but .. it was definitely shaking a lot and it feels like you’re pushed back into the seat . The other Italo train the AGV is the smoothest ride ever . Definitely my favorite train from a passenger perspective . It’s as if it’s gliding on the rails . Frecciarossa 1000 remains my favorite train overall , from and aesthetic point of view as well as the seats ecc . The only train I need to ride now it’s the Fyra from Trenitalia . I’ve been on all of them
Oh yeah the FR1000 and AGV are better, for sure 😄
I’m especially fond of ❤️ Frecciarossa 🚅 Executive Class but certainly wouldn’t thumb my nose up at Italo either 😉
Thank you Rob! For longer journeys I'd definitely choose Frecciarossa 😁
Hello...which was the Italian set with a rough ride please? I have found some sets very rough.
ETR485
You need come to Portugal get the Alfa Pendular High speed train.
Oh I will be don't worry 😁
That too bad
What type of camera do you use, and how discreet do you have to be while filming on the trains? Also, do you get many objections from people not wanting to be seen on your videos?
GoPro hero 10, and rarely have a problem with anyone. I don't wave it around obviously
Good video, Chennai
Thank you!!
Is thereno lockdown in Italy or Rome in particular?
Not when this was filmed
I've travelled on both on the route you described. I can't say there is no big difference except that Italotreno often beats Trenitalia by up to 10 euros on the price. They've both gotten a bit pricy in the last few months. Trenitalia has a few more daily trains. And if you have to transfer and miss a connection onto the national Trenitalia system Italo can't help you with a free new ticket. I missed the regional to Spoleto as Trenitalia was late out of Naples and they happily rewrote the ticket at Rome. Italo Marchini
Yeah I'd agree with this 😊👌🏻
8:33 what train type is the “devil”? Frecciargento ETR 485?
14:04 so far I have traveled only on the Frecciarossa (ETR500), but Italo is definitely on my bucket list! And I really hope we get a high speed competitor here in Germany too!
Yes Frecciargento. It is an old type of pendolino
@@mma_zaa Various types of trains are used for Frecciargento. So I guess it’s the ETR485, right? Are they really that bad? I for example actually like the SuperCity Pendolino trains in the Czech Republic, which are based on the italian ETR470/485 (they are all from the 3rd generation of Pendolinos). I haven’t traveled on the italian one yet.
@@sxflyer5410 the pendolino's type on the video is not so good, with or without high speed tracks, it's very noisy. Often there is a noise like something such as traytable that isn't attached so well and make horrible sounds.
@@sxflyer5410 another thing is that most of the time when you ride this trains it seems like going to bumber cars😅
Yes, ETR485 ☺️🇮🇹
I have only been on the Frecciarossa ETR500 and the Frecciargento ETR 600. I found both to be very good although I did prefer the ETR 500 as the ride quality was better. Paid €19 for the non stop trip between Rome and Milan as an advanced fare for standard class and thought this was excellent value for money for the comfort, speed and distance covered. I would like to try out Italo at some point in the future.
Excellent, let me know if you get to try Italo. The ETR500 is nice but I found the 600 a bit cramped for space ☺️
@@NonstopEurotrip yes I agree. I also found it a bit more cramped. Don't get me wrong it was still a step up to most the trains we had in England at the time though 🤣 I find the 4x4 seating on the etr 500 also gives it a more spacious feel. And I like the fact that it means the seats actually line up with the windows which is again an issue for quite a lot of trains.
When I rode on Italo, on the EVO train, I realized that all other countries dont use/have bells when pulling into stations. Anyone know why
Yes. Because people know the train is coming and have Railway sense.
I wonder if they cleared using that logo with Qantas...
😂😂😂
Can you make a video of any train on the Adriatic railway?
Yes! This is definitely a trip I'd love to make soon 👍🏻🇮🇹😃
Naples to Venice for 5½ hours with only a vending machine and no buffet car seems a bit much..
I agree! In which case I'd have taken a Frecciarossa/ Frecciargento 😂
@@NonstopEurotrip I would think the cost of putting on a buffet service is more than €4 a seat by the time you add up the seats forgone and wages etc. In which case Italo has charged you more for the seat than Trenitalia does. The problem with the competition model is that often people can’t truely compare products and make decisions based solely on price. In which case you can end up in a race to the bottom.
could i choose seat in reservation proceture ?
Yes, absolutely!
I am from India. This kind of trains may be available here by 3021 A.D.
Maybe 2500 😂
I would love to go on this trip but not backwards
You can pick your exact seat, but have no way of knowing which way round the train will be 😂
do you think italian high speed is the best in europe?
Up there, with Spain imo ☺️🇮🇹🇪🇦
French is the best. 320 kmh every where in the country.
@@ernestmachpro3341 Ironically though only DB’s trains run at 320km/h, while TGVs are limited to 300km/h.
Considering the infrastructure in Italy, I don't quite understand the choice of this type of trainset: they are to slow to to make the full use of 300km/h lines and being non tilting Pendolinos (so technically no longer even Pendolinos, since the word Pendolino roots in latin "pendulum"), they can not shave off travel time on traditional lines. They can only develop their full potential on Florence-Rome where the speed limit is 250. Or did Italo buy them only to save some money? Nice trains otherwise.
These trains run mainly on Venice routes, as to reach this famous city, train has to run mainly on conventional lines.
For the main TAV network between Turin - Milan - Rome - Naples, Italo has AGVs.
@@markoobid2005 Exactly that's the reason for asking why they opted for the non tilting version. I remember travelling between Venice and Bologna on both, Frecciargento and Frecciarossa and Frecciargento was actually faster because of its tilting ability (though there are only a few sections with pronounced curves on that line, but imagine if they extend their service to Bolzano, Ancona, Bari etc.).
Yeah I agree guys 🤷🏻♂️
As well as I remember you are right. Yes, Frecciarossa bought those trainsets to save money. They were in big financial trouble and AGV were too expensive for them. But they needed new trainsets. That is the reason of those Alstom trains.
Alstom's engines are made in Italy.
To us it is dream.
Every trains without proper maintenance won't offer a quality ride...right now here in Italy seems to exists only the Frecciarossa 1000...other trains are literally broken down with less and less maintenance. It's a shame the 485's are not well maintaned anymore, i always loved the Pendolino's train.
These trains are fine from what I've seen
@@NonstopEurotrip Externally. But lot of vibrations and noises are coming from the bogeys and the wheels that's are not receiving a good maintenance anymore. And that's ruining the travel comfort. Add the fact that the internal are the same from the last big renovation (10-15 years ago more or less) and voila', this is the situation of those trains. They won't enter Frecciarossa segment, so i think their destiny is Greece, like the 470's. The 460's...well, it seems their destiny is the demolition.
@@stefanokasuga4384 I agree the old pendolinos are particularly bad
Today I watched a technical report on German TV about this train based on a journey from Milan to Rome at 300 km / h. A disaster occurred during a scheduled stop, at least when it happened in Germany was perceived as a medium disaster: "Cars are in reverse order" (Wagen in umgekehrter Reihenfolge). The Italians pushed through each other just as headlessly, so the train started its onward journey with a 2-minute delay. As a German, I had a lot of fun. - Greetings to all fans of high speed trains, Heinz
These trains don't run from Milan to Rome or do 300kmh. That would be the AGV. Italy has its fair share of late trains, I've seen some that have been 180-240+ late, although I know Germany is known for similar problems 😂
El salvador necesita mucho transporte de toda clase vengan a invertir y vivan su desarrollo
every single country should have these special trains, but the seats should face opposite each passenger to give privacy. there are special very nice buses sleeper in Brazil, also there was a very nice train o Prata, but disappear, what a shame. how about the trans siberia train so nice the private cabines including shower and the dinning $18,000 this transsiberia train
That would be cool 😎
Freccia rossa................Red arrow.
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I would always pick a pvt company over government. That’s just me!
Depends on the price 😁
Rahul Gandhi knows it he must travel and post vdo
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Please talk, your quietness is deafening!!
Sorry, the majority of my subscribers prefer the natural sounds and captions
No Poland no sub.
Poland coming very soon ☺️
@@NonstopEurotrip So I'm waiting patiently. Greetings.
ah so !! the mafia still got it good over there.
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Che orrore.
thanks for the information about the absence of buffet car.
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