Just getting back into karate after a long (6 year) lay off. I found this video very useful to remind myself of what needs to be done. Playing it over and over again just to get it right. Thank you to all involved in this it truly helps. AND it’s a free tutorial!!!!
You very welcome and you also understood that these are meant to be purely as an aid to learning. Many people wish to dissect and analyse it when it is only meant as an aid, good luck with your return to karate.
I have recieved some negative comments about the videos....that is fine we live in a free world (just about) but? and it is a but it seems none of them read the description......The kihons were performed in a deliberate easy and basic fashion. (IT SAY'S SO UNDER THE VIDEO) This is to help people learn not indoctrinate them into someones interpretation...... Before we post names can I cordialy invite those that made the comments to post their own versions....I am sure they will be much better than ours but at leat we can see how that apparantly 'SHOULD' be done.... Regards
I agree there are several issues with these such as no where in Wado do we teach to bow with your feet apart and in the traditional explanation of these the feet do not move from the original stance prior to the first move. The purpose of these is to learn Tasubaki but only those who really study Wado will understand that. I appreciate the attempt to show these in a video.
Low intensity is more than fine. Especially when you are in practice mode, I'd even recommend it. Even so, I would like to give a few pointers, you may treat these in whatever way suits you. Ma-ai: The ideal harmonious distance is the full body length of the tallest person between you two. If you can make a mae geri/kin geri on the other person, you are too close. Try to attack from the point where it's almost not safe anymore. Use your body to 'leap' forward. Ki musubi: I see a proper display of Zanshin (awareness), but I miss the connection of your energy. You are looking very carefully at each other (well done) but your bodies are turned away at the end of every kumite. If you can, connect the mind ánd the body. Attacking: Mostly the second attack (gyakuzuki) is not on target. Your first punch reaches further than your second, even though your opponent evaded/moved. That can't be right. Without a proper attack, there cannot be a proper defense. Sokuto geri: I always learned you have to retract your leg after a kick, back to the knee (hiki ashi). Because you know, when you want to kick your dear friend again :) Other than that, it looks a bit more pleasing. I see quite some more things but I think these are universal points that you can work on, even when you are not practicing Kihon Kumite. I highly recommend watching Õtsuka Sensei's video's (yes, all 3 Õtsuka Sensei) and if you can, visit the shikukai dojo, or one of their seminars. It helps me a lot in my training. If you disagree with me, that is fine. I hope to have helped you. Have a nice day!
Great video. I really like the slow and clear execution of the kumite. Wado is a unique style with its use of tai sabaki and jiujitsu like characteristics.
Got round to read some of the comments....Like Tirza below who has taken the time and effort to explain and post good observations..... So can Carnifexe, Sensei Maharaj & Rick Evans please, please, please post their versions of the kumites so I can learn where we went wrong trying to post videos to help people..... I wish to bow before my betters.....How much do you want to bet that they wont?
One small tip: try not to telegraph the tsuki with subtle backward movement of fist and/or forearm. if you move your body from tanden first that shouldn't happen.
low intensity is fine, but it's not the same as dropping all kiays and doing it without kime. also no need to bow after each kihon gumite, just do it before the first and after the last one. other than that, nice video and nice dojo ;)
JUST HAVE SAY THAT NO ONE that is NO ONE who posted a negative comment has the guts to post their own. I wonder why? Easy to comment while sitting at a keyboard...GO ON I CHALLENGE YOU....POST YOUR VIDEO
In Wado its Jodan Soto Ude Uke just to make life difficult soto and uchi swap around between wado & Shotokan so the block is going out and to the outside of the punching arm. Remember with wado its the moving out of the way that tends to make it different ... This set of videos are just to show in the basic form. Check out the ones by Fukuzawa sensei they are great
Dear Foxesruler I note you have commented quite a few times. I doubt if I can ever give you the answer you seek. We practice these techniques, we do not ask anyone else to practice them. We are happy doing them you clearly don't see merit in them. We still at the moment live with freedom of choice. If they are not for you that is fine if not simply ignore them. Hope that answers your question
@@foxesruler There are many techniques that could be considered 'Better' they have a purpose in training....unless you are following a style like wado it may be harder to appreciate them. I certainly don't think they are the best thing you can ever do. They are a link to Wado's Jujitsu heritage. I also am not of the belief that Wado is the BEST style everything has something to bring to the table. Even bad things show you what not to do. As to why we do them its a bit like why you like one style of music over the other. Probably an unanswerable question i'm afraid. May I ask you a question? this is not the first time you have asked about these Kumite. What is it about them that bothers or concerns you ? We are not foolish enough to believe that these are going to be carried out exactly as shown in a real fight situation. But they seem to perturb you in some way. If we like practicing them and we are not fooling ourselves where does the problem you seem to have with them occur. I'm always open to debate. But when one meets negativity its almost as if your suggesting I should remove them for being (in your eyes) useless. keep well
@@foxesruler Maybe we are just a bunch of people who like meeting up in our pyjamas. we are under no illusions as to what we are practicing. may be we are just doing it because we like it. Is there a problem with that. I must also repeat myself and ask where is your real life stuff where are your videos ?
@@foxesruler when performed to a high level, the kihon gumite in Wado-Ryu karate requires supreme body precision and muscle control. Even for early Dan grades, there is still much to perfect with the 10 kihons. You wouldn’t be able to go into a street fight and whip out one of these kihons and expect it to work, however, the muscle memory and techniques learned will help to adapt them to real-life self-defence situations. Don’t be so quick to judge them.
А я думал вы наконец-то уже определились с выбором) ну одно дело когда выполнение базовой техники "корявое", другое, когда техника в принципе "не работает в реале".
Did you read the explanation as to why these where shown this way.Clearly you didn't. another armchair expert who is all mouth and no appreciation that someone is trying to show things in a BASIC manner ...do you understand that A BASIC MANNER SO THAT PEOPLE CAN LEARN THE BASICS If you are such an expert can you show your video please so e can see how an expert like you does them. I can't wait
It doesn't matter how well you perform these techniques - they are all worthless in a fight (any fight). They were created to fool people into believing that this is the real martial way. And so we can call these just choreographed pair movements which serve no other purpose than ... doing (and collecting money from students).
Well someone got out the bed the wrong side this morning... as for collecting money from students we charge enough to cover hall hire and 'that's it' NO profit.....perhaps you have been to Mc Dojo's As for being realistic we don't claim anything about them being real or otherwise.
@@wadokaratepromotionsociety1450 I agree that teaching is very often practically non-profit. I was a teacher for a long time too. But... what is the value of teaching these "techniques that are non-realistic? For the sake of ... just doing something, teaching something? What do the students actually learn from this? Make-believe fight? Preparing for a demo?
@@foxesruler No they have a purpose. delivered at full speed they hurt (they hurt a lot) as indicated these are being demonstrated purely at a soft slow pace so one can see whats happening ...unless you have been on the receiving end of them at speed I could never convince you... But at least you are questioning (always a good sign)
@@wadokaratepromotionsociety1450 I am not questioning the impact of the hits, just the attack. The offense that is not free, bur rather static and cooperated, cannot be functional
@@foxesruler Go along to a Traditional Wado club..practice say the first couple ..once you get used to the move do it it full speed in a non planned manner....get someone to just attack you with a punch to the head..only advice I can give im afraid....think of it in boxing terms rather them karate terms... what do you practice yourself?
Just getting back into karate after a long (6 year) lay off. I found this video very useful to remind myself of what needs to be done. Playing it over and over again just to get it right.
Thank you to all involved in this it truly helps. AND it’s a free tutorial!!!!
You very welcome and you also understood that these are meant to be purely as an aid to learning. Many people wish to dissect and analyse it when it is only meant as an aid, good luck with your return to karate.
@@barryarcher6158 you are right
I have recieved some negative comments about the videos....that is fine we live in a free world (just about) but? and it is a but it seems none of them read the description......The kihons were performed in a deliberate easy and basic fashion. (IT SAY'S SO UNDER THE VIDEO)
This is to help people learn not indoctrinate them into someones interpretation......
Before we post names can I cordialy invite those that made the comments to post their own versions....I am sure they will be much better than ours but at leat we can see how that apparantly 'SHOULD' be done....
Regards
Thanks very much for sharing. Very useful !
I agree there are several issues with these such as no where in Wado do we teach to bow with your feet apart and in the traditional explanation of these the feet do not move from the original stance prior to the first move. The purpose of these is to learn Tasubaki but only those who really study Wado will understand that. I appreciate the attempt to show these in a video.
Thanks for taking the time to show these. Interesting
wado ryu is the best karate
Low intensity is more than fine. Especially when you are in practice mode, I'd even recommend it. Even so, I would like to give a few pointers, you may treat these in whatever way suits you.
Ma-ai: The ideal harmonious distance is the full body length of the tallest person between you two. If you can make a mae geri/kin geri on the other person, you are too close. Try to attack from the point where it's almost not safe anymore. Use your body to 'leap' forward.
Ki musubi: I see a proper display of Zanshin (awareness), but I miss the connection of your energy. You are looking very carefully at each other (well done) but your bodies are turned away at the end of every kumite. If you can, connect the mind ánd the body.
Attacking: Mostly the second attack (gyakuzuki) is not on target. Your first punch reaches further than your second, even though your opponent evaded/moved. That can't be right. Without a proper attack, there cannot be a proper defense.
Sokuto geri: I always learned you have to retract your leg after a kick, back to the knee (hiki ashi). Because you know, when you want to kick your dear friend again :) Other than that, it looks a bit more pleasing.
I see quite some more things but I think these are universal points that you can work on, even when you are not practicing Kihon Kumite. I highly recommend watching Õtsuka Sensei's video's (yes, all 3 Õtsuka Sensei) and if you can, visit the shikukai dojo, or one of their seminars. It helps me a lot in my training. If you disagree with me, that is fine. I hope to have helped you.
Have a nice day!
Great video. I really like the slow and clear execution of the kumite.
Wado is a unique style with its use of tai sabaki and jiujitsu like characteristics.
Thanks very much Marc that is exactly how they are intended to be shown slow and clear and without any personal stamp on them. Good luck
Can I just make one observation...no one has posted their own video so far, wonder why
Thanks a lot for this video very useful for me ;-)
Got round to read some of the comments....Like Tirza below who has taken the time and effort to explain and post good observations.....
So can Carnifexe, Sensei Maharaj & Rick Evans please, please, please post their versions of the kumites so I can learn where we went wrong trying to post videos to help people.....
I wish to bow before my betters.....How much do you want to bet that they wont?
One small tip: try not to telegraph the tsuki with subtle backward movement of fist and/or forearm. if you move your body from tanden first that shouldn't happen.
Remember, oi tsuki belongs only to the dojo. You cannot use in in any real fight, either in the street or sports cage.
low intensity is fine, but it's not the same as dropping all kiays and doing it without kime. also no need to bow after each kihon gumite, just do it before the first and after the last one. other than that, nice video and nice dojo ;)
JUST HAVE SAY THAT NO ONE that is NO ONE who posted a negative comment has the guts to post their own. I wonder why? Easy to comment while sitting at a keyboard...GO ON I CHALLENGE YOU....POST YOUR VIDEO
1 uke... is jodan nagashi ude uke?
In Wado its Jodan Soto Ude Uke
just to make life difficult soto and uchi swap around between wado & Shotokan so the block is going out and to the outside of the punching arm. Remember with wado its the moving out of the way that tends to make it different ... This set of videos are just to show in the basic form.
Check out the ones by Fukuzawa sensei they are great
Are there any links or websites where these are broken down step by step
Give me a break
What is the point of practising these? Only for the grading test?
Dear Foxesruler I note you have commented quite a few times.
I doubt if I can ever give you the answer you seek. We practice these techniques, we do not ask anyone else to practice them. We are happy doing them you clearly don't see merit in them. We still at the moment live with freedom of choice.
If they are not for you that is fine if not simply ignore them. Hope that answers your question
@@barryarcher6158 I am glad that you are happy doing them. But why? Do you ever ask that from yourself? Maybe there are better techniques out there?
@@foxesruler There are many techniques that could be considered 'Better' they have a purpose in training....unless you are following a style like wado it may be harder to appreciate them. I certainly don't think they are the best thing you can ever do. They are a link to Wado's Jujitsu heritage.
I also am not of the belief that Wado is the BEST style everything has something to bring to the table.
Even bad things show you what not to do. As to why we do them its a bit like why you like one style of music over the other. Probably an unanswerable question i'm afraid.
May I ask you a question? this is not the first time you have asked about these Kumite. What is it about them that bothers or concerns you ?
We are not foolish enough to believe that these are going to be carried out exactly as shown in a real fight situation. But they seem to perturb you in some way.
If we like practicing them and we are not fooling ourselves where does the problem you seem to have with them occur.
I'm always open to debate. But when one meets negativity its almost as if your suggesting I should remove them for being (in your eyes) useless.
keep well
@@foxesruler Maybe we are just a bunch of people who like meeting up in our pyjamas. we are under no illusions as to what we are practicing. may be we are just doing it because we like it. Is there a problem with that. I must also repeat myself and ask where is your real life stuff where are your videos ?
@@foxesruler when performed to a high level, the kihon gumite in Wado-Ryu karate requires supreme body precision and muscle control. Even for early Dan grades, there is still much to perfect with the 10 kihons. You wouldn’t be able to go into a street fight and whip out one of these kihons and expect it to work, however, the muscle memory and techniques learned will help to adapt them to real-life self-defence situations. Don’t be so quick to judge them.
You should not be Dan grades 🙈
Это не работает в реале
translate please.
Владимир, забавно видеть такой Ваш отзыв под этим видео) давненько Вас не видел))) Вы наконец-то разочаровались в вадо рю и ушли в бокс?
@@иваниванов-к3и1с Взаимно) Не разочаровался,но определенные моменты вызывают вопросы. Здесь же корявое исполнение вообще.
А я думал вы наконец-то уже определились с выбором) ну одно дело когда выполнение базовой техники "корявое", другое, когда техника в принципе "не работает в реале".
@@иваниванов-к3и1с Ну эта техника в принципе слабо работает в реале.
Horrible ... no Wado Ryu principle is applied here. Postures and positions completely wrong, no hip movement ...
Did you read the explanation as to why these where shown this way.Clearly you didn't. another armchair expert who is all mouth and no appreciation that someone is trying to show things in a BASIC manner ...do you understand that A BASIC MANNER SO THAT PEOPLE CAN LEARN THE BASICS
If you are such an expert can you show your video please so e can see how an expert like you does them.
I can't wait
Очень плохое исполнение.
It doesn't matter how well you perform these techniques - they are all worthless in a fight (any fight). They were created to fool people into believing that this is the real martial way. And so we can call these just choreographed pair movements which serve no other purpose than ... doing (and collecting money from students).
Well someone got out the bed the wrong side this morning... as for collecting money from students we charge enough to cover hall hire and 'that's it'
NO profit.....perhaps you have been to Mc Dojo's
As for being realistic we don't claim anything about them being real or otherwise.
@@wadokaratepromotionsociety1450 I agree that teaching is very often practically non-profit. I was a teacher for a long time too. But... what is the value of teaching these "techniques that are non-realistic? For the sake of ... just doing something, teaching something? What do the students actually learn from this? Make-believe fight? Preparing for a demo?
@@foxesruler No they have a purpose. delivered at full speed they hurt (they hurt a lot) as indicated these are being demonstrated purely at a soft slow pace so one can see whats happening ...unless you have been on the receiving end of them at speed I could never convince you... But at least you are questioning (always a good sign)
@@wadokaratepromotionsociety1450 I am not questioning the impact of the hits, just the attack. The offense that is not free, bur rather static and cooperated, cannot be functional
@@foxesruler Go along to a Traditional Wado club..practice say the first couple ..once you get used to the move do it it full speed in a non planned manner....get someone to just attack you with a punch to the head..only advice I can give im afraid....think of it in boxing terms rather them karate terms... what do you practice yourself?