Joke besides, most of the road-going version of the race cars have more power since there are no regulations to limit the power output. Also, what race cars need is never a million horsepower but a good combination of grip, speed and reliability, it's better to have less horsepower but can use them all instead of having insane horsepower but have terrible wheel spin at every corner exit.
Dauer did this with Dauer 962LM road car too. Road car had much more horsepower and much higher top speed than racing variant. This is due not needing so much downforce on roads and not having to comply with requlations (we can't blast cars 200km/h on normal roads to a corner can we haha).
Fun fact:from what I've heard,the 800hp is not it's intended power,the original hp number was 1000hp,but the owner just straight up said,no and almost all the cars were scrapped,the last one is downgraded to only 800hso people could control it
It's my favorite front-engine car. I'm not much of a fan of front-engine cars, but I love this thing, and the GT1 version looks so awesome. TVR found a way to make a front-engine car look as exotic as a Ferrari F50. I respect the genius.
The Cerbera Speed 12 was so overpowered in Project Gotham Racing 2, that Bizarre Creations issued a free DLC download of the car just to balance everything out online.
I guess whoever drives this demon is gonna have a bad time. If this car is such a devil, I guess this is the modern Devil Z, move over Grim Reaper R32, We've found a car that'll kill you unintentionally and intentionally.
1:59 "We at Purpleguy studios respect the cars we work on, even if they don't respect us and want to kill us." Their desire to kill us is just the spice in our relationships.
"What I am... is feared. Racing drivers respect me out of obligation because of my legendary potential. You think you're wicked for having 400/600 HP V10? Please.. you're the least of my worries."
I remember that car from good old Gran Turismo 2. I took it to the test circuit one day. In the steep cuves, this car would simply lose all contact to the ground and just haul ass through the air. I would literally take off and crash horribly. It seemed impossible to control, when fully tuned.
Adjust your final drive towards acceleration just like purple told us, and then adjust your 1st gear to speed until it covers all the other gears, and then adjust the other gears until 1st gear won't cover them
Fun fact: this car’s engine had a compression ratio so high that it was impossible to use any kind of forced induction, or else it would violently explode after going above 5000 rpm.
@@yobrethren sorry, if you're finding friends i must tell that i'm not interested in befriending annoying and irritating poor attempts of trolls of the YT comments section. Thanks.
@@Sammael66685 what I meant in original reply is that Trevor never implies someone in particular,it's a name. And asumming GTA is notorious to be played by little, I joked
I remember trying to drive this thing in Gran Turismo 2. Was a joke back then too. Basically undrivable with button inputs for acceleration and deceleration
The 1988 Chevrolet Monte Carlo Super with the Racing V8 engine swap (I know you're against them but it's for a reason) is an amazing machine. Paint it up like the car from Daytona USA and it can absolutely obliterate everything on a straight line, but it suffers a lot on corners. It has it's own unique tire upgrades to make it look like a stockcar too.
this was one of the greatest what-if cars (imo) when it came to production cars at the time. if this wasn't let go and forgotten, i think this could have been on the level of mclaren f1 fame and turned into one of those cars that tons of people would have on their wall and no one would ever stop talking about, such as again, the mclaren f1.
Yooo I'm just new to Forza Horizon and I realised that your tuning guide is really helpful when you wanna tune individual cars. Great content man. Hope you make a vid on the viper next!
I use to drive this thing in Forza Motorsports 2. Ever since I tried this car my first ever race with it was a shitted pants, wheel spins, drag, crash crash crash, drift in a freaky Frankenstein way , and nightmarish warp speed that a Little kid like me at the time would cry just racing in it. Now it's just another fast cars I can drive around in without having to worry about much of anything but racing in it.
True fact Tvr started at 1945 as an engine company till 1997 when the company bought out Marcos when the almighty Tuscan were made Then in 2001 the Griffith was made and also the canabera speed 12 then in 2007 they remade the canabera and Griffith but they also allowed to build the Tuscan then now the Griffith mk3 was made with a lil help from Vauxhall
When you say fun fact I'd expect it it be a fact. TVR was founded in 1947. The mk2 TVR Griffith was produced from 1991 and the TVR Chimaera was produced from 1992 . The TVR Cerbera was produced from 1996. Then the speed 12 was based off the Cerbera.
I feel lile properly tuning it for S2 would cause it to be the greatest thing ever, evem more fun than the Donkervoort, but like you yourself once said, S2 class is pure fucking torture.
In GT 3, I swapped the gear ratios from the Oreca Viper and tweaked the suspension a little and it was very manageable. The top speed loss was negligible.
Well, they always suggest tires and brakes _first,_ in that order. Then whatever else will help the car. So if you're driving something that's obviously down on power but has good suspension (like a Miata or a 1st gen MR2), weight reduction followed engine upgrades is definitely the way to go after tires and brakes. Meanwhile, if you're driving something with plenty of power stock, the last thing you want to do is put even more power under the hood. In some extremely niche cases you might even want to _downgrade_ the power - for a small-scale example from the RC racing hobby, the Traxxas Jato benefits from swapping the overpowered TRX-2.5 for smaller, less powerful .12 ci engine, and a transmission swap to a single-speed setup rather than the stock two-speed centrifugal automatic. This plus a good set of tires results in FAR less wheelspin and a FAR more controllable vehicle, at the expense of not having quite as much top end - not that you need that in a stadium truck.
Tvr isn't the least British, British car brand. Most British car brands that don't focus on luxury, tends to be light. TVR just adds power, and unreliability... but then really, unreliability is just a British thing.
The name of the founder of TVR Automotive Limited is "Trevor Wilkinson". TVR literally does stand for Trevor. Now I'mma only rever to it as "Trevor" and have nobody know what I mean when I say that it's the Trevor Cerbera Speed 12
"The engine sounds like a bunch of banshees stuck inside a box" And that's why the sound was used for the M3 GTR 😂 (ik this isn't the exact sound and such, eh I'm just joking around lol)
TVR. TreVoR Philipps on Steroids, Ecstasy, Crack, Cocain and Alcohol at the same time, with a Minigun in the Military Base in a Nutshell. TVR is my favourite British Car Maker btw, so thank you for making this Video PurpleGuy123 Still prefer it's son the Sagaris though
I have an X-class Cerbera Speed-12.... It's an absolute monster. It can get to 230mph in a around 15 seconds due to the gearing. (you don't really need any higher unless you're trying to go for a really fast speed trap.) Needless to say it's pretty much speed incarnate.
Nope, it's one of a few production cars that were made in 2000. The 2003 car was then made out them and the track-only car(s) that was used in British GT Championship in the early 2000s, IIRC.
Hi purpleguy, I stumbled upon your channel while looking for some guidance on some circuit tunes. I watched all of your horizon car guide videos in one sitting and I must say I enjoyed every moment of it. I hate forza aero parts and I was so happy to see that someone making a race tune wasn't slapping on forza's ugly aero kits. I wanted to ask you if you could give me some advice on a mk1 gt40 I am building for A class. The car cannot take race tires from stock as it pushes the pi into s1, I am wondering if you could do a horizon guide for the car for top of A class. Keep up the great content!!!
I remember driving this in GT6 and for the love of god everything I tried couldn't fix its understeer. It was good in every other regard but the understeer ruined everything.
If you want to spare yourself some time, here's this car summed up in a single word:
*Violence.*
Yes
ThePurpleguy123 Whats the best Jojo Op
ThePurpleguy123 the TVR is Certainly well its a car
makes sense
This is awesome
mate, the shed it was found in was probably the shed it was built in
Just like all the other great limited production european rocket sleds.
I've seen the old TVR factory, I think you're right.
your right mate
*summoned
You know what your probably right
"race car 600hp, road car 800hp because TVR." there is no better way to put this.
Joke besides, most of the road-going version of the race cars have more power since there are no regulations to limit the power output. Also, what race cars need is never a million horsepower but a good combination of grip, speed and reliability, it's better to have less horsepower but can use them all instead of having insane horsepower but have terrible wheel spin at every corner exit.
That's the Trevor
Dauer did this with Dauer 962LM road car too. Road car had much more horsepower and much higher top speed than racing variant. This is due not needing so much downforce on roads and not having to comply with requlations (we can't blast cars 200km/h on normal roads to a corner can we haha).
@@BluWarta92 Autobahn: You underestimate my sped.
@@Kikker861 Anything is possible in Autobahn haha!
Purple: *leaves the engine stock*
Also Purple: That's a power build.
@@jack8407 No, I always tune my cars for handling. It's just funny to me that he only upgraded the fly wheel and called it a power build
British Viper on crack.
Speakin' o' which, do one on the Viper, idc which one.
Not the ACR, it's a weapon but has too much downforce to be viable in S1 and I'm not an ungodly heathen who wouls AWD swap it
@@porschelover04 im not sorry
The formula drift viper makes the TVR look like Power Wheels... that car is truly undrivable in races.
viper gang
@@s_t_r_a_y_e_d welp, drift cars are built with undrivable in mind
"You might find yourself in 4th gear for the entire race"
Mista is not amused by this.
Jojoke go brrrrr
I think my favourite part of my cerbera is that I made it fwd so I could increase the amount of C O O L V I B R A T I O N S I get
shingo points
Doesn't it have problems with torque steer?
Damn Dank YES IT VERY MUCH DOES
Did you swap it to all wheel drive and your Legs turn Into CJ's legs and kick the rear drivetrain?
Real drag race hours
Viper: We did it first
Cerbera 12 Speed: We did it better and hella more dangerous
"Now that your coffin can go at supersonic speeds"
Its basically what happens when the most outrageous Corvettes come in contact with the most outrageous Vipers. Absolute. Masculine. Insanity.
Fun fact:from what I've heard,the 800hp is not it's intended power,the original hp number was 1000hp,but the owner just straight up said,no and almost all the cars were scrapped,the last one is downgraded to only 800hso people could control it
I remember this shit in Gran Turismo PSP, it understeered more than a turbocharged 400hp red Civic at full throttle in 2th gear
I see I am not the only one who have played it, that thing is fucking speed that can beat the Veyron
What about a chevy monte carlo ss stock car
@@mateuszodrzywoek8658 it was not in the game, the GT PSP is based on GT4 but it has about 200 cars less
2th
@@mariodacostamosteiro7262 this monster deleted the McLaren F1
This is my favorite car of all time, nothing screams power like the Legendary Cerbera Speed 12.
Thanks MR Purple for making this video
One of the coolest cars ever made.
BMW M3 GTR is top dog for me but TVR Cerbera (in any form) comes very close
It's my favorite front-engine car. I'm not much of a fan of front-engine cars, but I love this thing, and the GT1 version looks so awesome. TVR found a way to make a front-engine car look as exotic as a Ferrari F50. I respect the genius.
The Cerbera Speed 12 was so overpowered in Project Gotham Racing 2, that Bizarre Creations issued a free DLC download of the car just to balance everything out online.
SpaceFox93 Lol i remembered that!
this is basically undriveable in Gran Turismo 2, But oooooh god.... I LOVE IT.
It IS driveable in gt2, I just did it
And it drives pretty gud, unless overthrottling have happen
Same here.
I guess whoever drives this demon is gonna have a bad time. If this car is such a devil, I guess this is the modern Devil Z, move over Grim Reaper R32, We've found a car that'll kill you unintentionally and intentionally.
I tuned it to reach 390km/h.it snaps at 350.its fast but wobbly.
@@faln2923 every TVR in a nutshell
@ChurizoMcBurrito It's no regular Nissan Skyline ya dingus
ChurizoMcBurrito yeah, this thing is so much cooler than the skyline
Just downloaded his tune and it's honestly pretty manageable compared to driving at all in fm7
1:59 "We at Purpleguy studios respect the cars we work on, even if they don't respect us and want to kill us."
Their desire to kill us is just the spice in our relationships.
of their wilderness (just like the ford mustang)
@@4storyboss the new Griffith has a Mustang engine, I wOnDeR wHy
Dodge Viper: Who are you? TVR Cerbera Speed 12
TVR Cerbera Speed 12: i'm the oppesite of every car you ever met
-I'm you, but *S T R O N G E R*
I'm what happens when you sold your soul to the devil.
"What I am... is feared. Racing drivers respect me out of obligation because of my legendary potential. You think you're wicked for having 400/600 HP V10? Please.. you're the least of my worries."
When i think of something from England, i think in one thing:
Speedwagon.
SpeeedwaGONnnnnnn...
Niceeeee
My waifu.
And brexit
Fastcart
I remember that car from good old Gran Turismo 2. I took it to the test circuit one day. In the steep cuves, this car would simply lose all contact to the ground and just haul ass through the air. I would literally take off and crash horribly. It seemed impossible to control, when fully tuned.
Nice review, although some more gearbox tuning to alleviate the low gear wheelspin is probably recommended. Can't wait for the next one!
Adjust your final drive towards acceleration just like purple told us, and then adjust your 1st gear to speed until it covers all the other gears, and then adjust the other gears until 1st gear won't cover them
I just left the gears stock. It's got plenty of power to use the stock gears.
during trevor introduction that music... truly worth staying up to find this masterpiece
Fun fact: this car’s engine had a compression ratio so high that it was impossible to use any kind of forced induction, or else it would violently explode after going above 5000 rpm.
So if this car's a Trevor, does that mean it also gets drunk and throws grenades onto its yard?
Yep!
Trevor Phillips wants to know your location
It also is a cannibal, cooks meth in it’s free time, and has insatiable bloodlust!
The car itself is a nuke
When a Viper seems more controlable you know that you're fucked
Back in the GT4 days, I thought this car had 12 gears
Yeah the name isn't very intuitive.
Speed 12 cuz V12. What else do u need 2 know.
originally it was project 7/12, 7 being a 7,7 liter engine and 12 being amount of Cylinders in that beast
7:14 *NOW THAT YOUR COFFIN CAN GO AT SUPER SONIC SPEEDS*
*ITS TIME TO MAKE SURE IT KILLS YOU WHEN IT GETS THERE*
Instructions unclear. Car broke my dyno
Don't worry. That's normal.
When Trevor Wilkinson predicted another Trevor (Phillips)
12 Year Old found
@@yobrethren Jealous muppet found :)))
@@Sammael66685 whatchu mean? flexin' as if I don't have it?
@@yobrethren sorry, if you're finding friends i must tell that i'm not interested in befriending annoying and irritating poor attempts of trolls of the YT comments section. Thanks.
@@Sammael66685 what I meant in original reply is that Trevor never implies someone in particular,it's a name. And asumming GTA is notorious to be played by little, I joked
Roses are red
Violets are blue
This car is quick
But also *dummy thick*
I remember trying to drive this thing in Gran Turismo 2. Was a joke back then too. Basically undrivable with button inputs for acceleration and deceleration
Surprised how similar the tuning style in these vids is to mine, but also you’re a madman for using this car without traction on
It’s the Devil Z all over again
The 1988 Chevrolet Monte Carlo Super with the Racing V8 engine swap (I know you're against them but it's for a reason) is an amazing machine. Paint it up like the car from Daytona USA and it can absolutely obliterate everything on a straight line, but it suffers a lot on corners. It has it's own unique tire upgrades to make it look like a stockcar too.
This TVR will murder NASCAR
this was one of the greatest what-if cars (imo) when it came to production cars at the time. if this wasn't let go and forgotten, i think this could have been on the level of mclaren f1 fame and turned into one of those cars that tons of people would have on their wall and no one would ever stop talking about, such as again, the mclaren f1.
Yooo I'm just new to Forza Horizon and I realised that your tuning guide is really helpful when you wanna tune individual cars. Great content man. Hope you make a vid on the viper next!
I use to drive this thing in Forza Motorsports 2.
Ever since I tried this car my first ever race with it was a shitted pants, wheel spins, drag, crash crash crash, drift in a freaky Frankenstein way , and nightmarish warp speed that a Little kid like me at the time would cry just racing in it.
Now it's just another fast cars I can drive around in without having to worry about much of anything but racing in it.
Nice video mate, i love this car, and making memes of it makes it even more hillarious, subbed boi
U just tamed the Blackpool B E A S T
True fact
Tvr started at 1945 as an engine company till
1997 when the company bought out Marcos when the almighty Tuscan were made
Then in 2001 the Griffith was made and also the canabera speed 12 then in 2007 they remade the canabera and Griffith but they also allowed to build the Tuscan then now the Griffith mk3 was made with a lil help from Vauxhall
When you say fun fact I'd expect it it be a fact.
TVR was founded in 1947.
The mk2 TVR Griffith was produced from 1991 and the TVR Chimaera was produced from 1992 .
The TVR Cerbera was produced from 1996. Then the speed 12 was based off the Cerbera.
The Griffith MK3 is essentially a British Mustang
TVR Cerbera Speed 12.
The Gordon Ramsay of sports car...
No no no.
The Ferrari FXXK is the Gordon Ramsay supercar
*Exotic car
A GT race car, to be exact.
Yes! A new upload from my favorite tuning guide channel!!! Thank you so much!
How about a review on the Volvo 850R? My dad has one and the sound of that 5-cyl is insane.
wish granted
Ever since the Speed 12 became the hardest car to unlock in Project Gotham Racing 2 (platinum medal all events) this became my hero car
Its nice to see you're still uploading Smol, Hope ur doing alright.
Bruh I straight up recognized Demetori's The MadPiero Laughs
I feel lile properly tuning it for S2 would cause it to be the greatest thing ever, evem more fun than the Donkervoort, but like you yourself once said, S2 class is pure fucking torture.
One of the most funniest vidz I've ever seen about Forza
Ikr?
The intro alone fucking killed me 😂😂😂
私はあなたのような卑劣な人に負けることはありません、何があっても！
-Takumi Fujiwara
I tuned this car in GT4 many years ago and achieved a ludicrous 480km/h top speed
Ryo but you cant tune cars in gta 4
@@thronritter6295 GT4= Gran Turismo 4
In GT 3, I swapped the gear ratios from the Oreca Viper and tweaked the suspension a little and it was very manageable. The top speed loss was negligible.
So it's Trevor Phillips from GTA 5, but a car company
Been trying to make an S1 of these for ages, it's just so fucking fast
Comparing to other RWD power builds it feels much more controllable tbh
Remember this thing from gran turismo
I've always loved this thing since the first time I found it and I couldn't drive a corner with it.
Purple guy studios got an upgrade for this video, it's like a mansion there
Hey flamethrowerxxx, I just wanted to say that i watch almost all your videos and your content is wicked, please keep it up, ur tha best
You can increase the length of the 3 first gears to reduce wheelspin
There are not enough gears in the world for the speed 12
@@co8783 this car needs only 1 gear, like a regera or something
i'd like to see a video on the ferrari 330 p4, its really expensive but it's really good in S1.
If you ask any real world race drivers what mods you should consider they rarely mention engine mods. They always suggest brakes and tyres.
Well, they always suggest tires and brakes _first,_ in that order. Then whatever else will help the car. So if you're driving something that's obviously down on power but has good suspension (like a Miata or a 1st gen MR2), weight reduction followed engine upgrades is definitely the way to go after tires and brakes. Meanwhile, if you're driving something with plenty of power stock, the last thing you want to do is put even more power under the hood. In some extremely niche cases you might even want to _downgrade_ the power - for a small-scale example from the RC racing hobby, the Traxxas Jato benefits from swapping the overpowered TRX-2.5 for smaller, less powerful .12 ci engine, and a transmission swap to a single-speed setup rather than the stock two-speed centrifugal automatic. This plus a good set of tires results in FAR less wheelspin and a FAR more controllable vehicle, at the expense of not having quite as much top end - not that you need that in a stadium truck.
Tvr isn't the least British, British car brand. Most British car brands that don't focus on luxury, tends to be light. TVR just adds power, and unreliability... but then really, unreliability is just a British thing.
This car has made me cry in gran turismo
So hard grinding
Thought it was good
But fuck was i wrong
the studio is gonna whipe out the whole bill family like this
When you can go 240 mph in 3rd gear you’ve made it
ASM, grippy tires and ballasts are a must for this car in GT4
Purpleguy: Time to make impossible to drive car guide
Bill Family: *Chuckles* I'm in danger.
This made me remember the TVR Tuscan from looney tunes back in action
8RY4N18US Which is also in the game and is another underrated weapon. Lol.
why do we needed this
This car is a monster with full engine upgrades and a awd system soooooo fun
youre a man of culture dude :D
plot twist: the wangan devil z has a cerbera engine
the person who designed the engine lived in the same neighborhood as me :O
Nice
RIP Bill Jr
The name of the founder of TVR Automotive Limited is "Trevor Wilkinson". TVR literally does stand for Trevor. Now I'mma only rever to it as "Trevor" and have nobody know what I mean when I say that it's the Trevor Cerbera Speed 12
I knew you'd eventually do the Cerbera Speed 12
"The engine sounds like a bunch of banshees stuck inside a box"
And that's why the sound was used for the M3 GTR 😂 (ik this isn't the exact sound and such, eh I'm just joking around lol)
TVR. TreVoR Philipps on Steroids, Ecstasy, Crack, Cocain and Alcohol at the same time, with a Minigun in the Military Base in a Nutshell.
TVR is my favourite British Car Maker btw, so thank you for making this Video PurpleGuy123
Still prefer it's son the Sagaris though
7:26 - _”…as having enough acceleration to get to [the top speed] is far more important.”_
And why is that more important than outright top speed?
This is literally the British version of the Devil Z.
It's pretty much what happens when you mass produce the Devil Z.
Devil Z wants to know your location
I have an X-class Cerbera Speed-12.... It's an absolute monster. It can get to 230mph in a around 15 seconds due to the gearing. (you don't really need any higher unless you're trying to go for a really fast speed trap.) Needless to say it's pretty much speed incarnate.
I think I joined your convoy earlier today(I was the guy in the BMW cop car )
this is one of those cars that you have to just toon out and focus on whats next to drive, much like the quattro in dirt rally
The intro killed me 😂
I remember this car from that one Top Gear skit when they ''made'' an electric ''car''
TopGear used the space frame chassis from a TVR Chimaera
I made it an X class car, and its one of my favourite to drive.
Still waiting for bone shaker tutorial
grabie That car is for scum, I don’t think pguy want to sink that low
@@theluchakabuto5206 r/wooosh
Zahrinux ??
@@theluchakabuto5206 i know i just wanna see video about IT
@@theluchakabuto5206 for lolz
That's not a 1998 TVR Speed 12 Purple it's a 2003 Model TVR Cebera Speed 12.
RIP Bill jr Forza driver. we never forget you
Nope, it's one of a few production cars that were made in 2000. The 2003 car was then made out them and the track-only car(s) that was used in British GT Championship in the early 2000s, IIRC.
The changes went by so fast I didn’t catch it
I hope everything that was done is under the gamertag
You know you probably didnt give 1st and second gear much of a chance putting a 4.0 final drive in it.
Hi purpleguy, I stumbled upon your channel while looking for some guidance on some circuit tunes. I watched all of your horizon car guide videos in one sitting and I must say I enjoyed every moment of it. I hate forza aero parts and I was so happy to see that someone making a race tune wasn't slapping on forza's ugly aero kits. I wanted to ask you if you could give me some advice on a mk1 gt40 I am building for A class. The car cannot take race tires from stock as it pushes the pi into s1, I am wondering if you could do a horizon guide for the car for top of A class. Keep up the great content!!!
My favorite car in gran Turismo 2, used this trick with fourth gear and never had wheelspin. A monster, supreme speed but bad handling if not careful
Please help!!! Every time I gas it the back wheels just spin and spin out and its S1 is there a fix?!?!?!
Yes there is a fix
Learn to drive you pussy, this is TVR, not AWD swapped abomination
Awesome video
It was also a prick to drive in Project Gotham Racing 2. Very rewarding though
0:42 that's a Rolls Royce
*Bentley Mulsanne
Do you drive manual or manual with clutch?
If brittain made a dodge viper
Omg the T in TVR does stand for Trever!
TVR in itself stands for Trevor as in TreVoR
I remember driving this in GT6 and for the love of god everything I tried couldn't fix its understeer. It was good in every other regard but the understeer ruined everything.
800 HP?
*Wangan players breath heavily*