aahhggg....to think I had this in 1956 and then lost all my vinyl's when our house was destroyed by fire in 1983...But material objects are just that....objects..memories last forever....
According to the description with my CD, the cannon used in this recording is the same model as those used by French troop in attacking Moscow in 1812. Further, the bell set is a replica of the one in a major church in Moscow, and the copy was given to the Riverside Church at NYC as a gift when NYC and Moscow first became sister cities.
Happy to say this cannon "Le Constant" can still be found at West Point. It's sitting in a rack outside with a number of similar cannons at trophy point.
I listened to this version as a sophomore in high school while I was learning trombone. Reinforced my choice of instrument that I still play to this day! Second only to Stars and Stripes Forever as the greatest piece of music ever written!
I am impressed by the authentic cannon used for the recording, however, what sends shivers up my spine is the beautiful harmony of the bells!! I spoke too soon. They RUINED it by cutting off the last 5 cannon shots!!!
Antal Dorati and the Minneapolis Symphony recorded this twice, the one on this video is the 1958 second recording in stereo. They first recorded this in 1954. Both versions are bona fide audiophile classics. I have this 1958 version. I hope to get mint condition of the 1954 version on vinyl soon....
You are right, evidently, I have the first Overture's version recorded in 1954. By the way, the cannon shots are louder and thicker in this recording than those from the second one made in 1958. But the clamor of bells is much better in the 1958's version.
@@MrPAPAGAYO46 That's interesting. Even more interesting is the recorded commentaries of Deems Taylor on both versions. Listening to it now seems pretty hilarious. Btw, I stay away from the cd version of the 1958 stereo recording as it was remixed and the cannons are reported to be a lot tamer. ALSO to avoid the Double Album Package of both recordings. It also used the 80s remix of the stereo version. It's amazing to collect the Living Presence series of Mercury. They are all worth the investment.
my uncle George Kurz played with the Minneapolis Symphony Orchestra and Antal Dorati. He would come home and tell us about A. Dorati's repeated fits, "i pack my bags and go to Rome!" i guess he did eventually.
@Quincy Breed I was able to borrow a copy some years back. It was the earliest issue on cd made in Europe. They were not properly remastered by Wilma Fine so the depth and detail paled in comparison with the vinyl release. But by the early 90s Wilma Fine was asked by PolyGram to remaster the catalog. Now those versions I haven't heard yet. But since Wilma Fine remastered them herself, it was a better one but I haven't head them yet.
@Quincy Breed according to the late Wilma Fine (the woman who mixed the original MLP releases) the first issud cds were not properly remastered and used copy of cutting masters. They did not use the original masters. Now I sincerely hope all MLP tapes were not burned in the Universal building fire. Hope they are stored elsewhere.
I love Antal Dorati! I've been looking for a recording up here on you tube of him with Detroit Symphony conducting the 1812, but not much luck, yet. I do have an old vinyl recording of it and it is great! Cannon and tons of church bells and all. Thanks so much for posting this.
All of your comments are very supportive to this great MUSICA When I listen to this I just want my friends n children to get turned on by what is real music with A meaning BRAVO
On overall balance this is my favourite version that I've heard. It isn't better in every way than other versions but If I could make my perfect hybrid version I would take most sections from this version. Fabulous full bodied recording too, the positioning of the recording equipment was spot on.
If anyone would to listen to the ending of a 1962 Philips pressing of this recording, please go to my channel and watch my video entitled '1812 Overture Original Sound Mix'. You will hear a different stereo spread of the church bells and centrally-imaged cannon fire. I don't know if the original 1958 Mercury release was also mixed this way, but this is my Philips cut from 1962.
Mercury set the pattern for fidelity with simplicity only 3 mikesfor full bodied stereo left centre and right amalgamed to two channels all mikes hung over the orchestra and thats it ! Never been bettered and set a standard that is now sadly lacking on CD's
The pieces on this cd are from 2 different lps. I have cd and original copies on Lp in good condition. It is just more beautiful and alive on the old school stereo. I use pioneer and dual turntables. Love parts after this and beethoven piece, showing what it took for the cannons and bells. And the bells beautiful. But this is nice as i can travel with it.
This is a great recording but I must admit that I like the 1954 version, even though in mono, even more.Apart from not being in stereo, it can't be improved upon.
Is this available for sale as I cannot locate it. My dad was telling me about it today and how he lost his original Vinyl Copy and I would love to be able to find a copy for him for Xmas. I recently had the privilege of playing at the RAH with the RLPO, and Vasily Petrenko. I played the last three minutes of the 1812 with my Brass band, Besses o' th' Barn Band. We also played all the way through Verdi's Triumphal March from Aida with the Orchestra. It was phenomenal. The indoor fireworks and the Digital Cannons were magnificent, and it was extremely emotional. That is why the subject came up with my dad
My grandfather played trumpet with the Minneapolis Symphony. Love that I can hear him!
aahhggg....to think I had this in 1956 and then lost all my vinyl's when our house was destroyed by fire in 1983...But material objects are just that....objects..memories last
forever....
According to the description with my CD, the cannon used in this recording is the same model as those used by French troop in attacking Moscow in 1812. Further, the bell set is a replica of the one in a major church in Moscow, and the copy was given to the Riverside Church at NYC as a gift when NYC and Moscow first became sister cities.
The bells and cannons are beautiful. Thank you for sharing this!
Aaaah ,real cannons ! Wonderful
My favorite version. Naturally, it's because I grew up with it. Capriccio Italien's on the 2nd side of this album, and it rocks!
Happy to say this cannon "Le Constant" can still be found at West Point. It's sitting in a rack outside with a number of similar cannons at trophy point.
I listened to this version as a sophomore in high school while I was learning trombone. Reinforced my choice of instrument that I still play to this day! Second only to Stars and Stripes Forever as the greatest piece of music ever written!
Still the one and only best recording.
Yes, that would have to be the best recording of the 1812 Overture I have ever heard! The carillon at the end was almost overpowering!
I am impressed by the authentic cannon used for the recording, however, what sends shivers up my spine is the beautiful harmony of the bells!!
I spoke too soon. They RUINED it by cutting off the last 5 cannon shots!!!
Antal Dorati and the Minneapolis Symphony recorded this twice, the one on this video is the 1958 second recording in stereo. They first recorded this in 1954. Both versions are bona fide audiophile classics. I have this 1958 version. I hope to get mint condition of the 1954 version on vinyl soon....
You are right, evidently, I have the first Overture's version recorded in 1954. By the way, the cannon shots are louder and thicker in this recording than those from the second one made in 1958. But the clamor of bells is much better in the 1958's version.
@@MrPAPAGAYO46 That's interesting. Even more interesting is the recorded commentaries of Deems Taylor on both versions. Listening to it now seems pretty hilarious. Btw, I stay away from the cd version of the 1958 stereo recording as it was remixed and the cannons are reported to be a lot tamer. ALSO to avoid the Double Album Package of both recordings. It also used the 80s remix of the stereo version. It's amazing to collect the Living Presence series of Mercury. They are all worth the investment.
my favourite version of this piece
my uncle George Kurz played with the Minneapolis Symphony Orchestra and Antal Dorati. He would come home and tell us about A. Dorati's repeated fits, "i pack my bags and go to Rome!" i guess he did eventually.
Great story!
I still have the 33rpm vynal recording of this, MANIFICEN!T
Wow !~~~~~
The ONLY format to listen to this very recording. The CD version sucks.
yes i have it and Lp is best on old school hi-fi
@Quincy Breed I was able to borrow a copy some years back. It was the earliest issue on cd made in Europe. They were not properly remastered by Wilma Fine so the depth and detail paled in comparison with the vinyl release. But by the early 90s Wilma Fine was asked by PolyGram to remaster the catalog. Now those versions I haven't heard yet. But since Wilma Fine remastered them herself, it was a better one but I haven't head them yet.
@Quincy Breed according to the late Wilma Fine (the woman who mixed the original MLP releases) the first issud cds were not properly remastered and used copy of cutting masters. They did not use the original masters.
Now I sincerely hope all MLP tapes were not burned in the Universal building fire. Hope they are stored elsewhere.
I love Antal Dorati! I've been looking for a recording up here on you tube of him with Detroit Symphony conducting the 1812, but not much luck, yet. I do have an old vinyl recording of it and it is great! Cannon and tons of church bells and all. Thanks so much for posting this.
My best versión. I have it in LP and the sound is impresive
All of your comments are very supportive to this great MUSICA When I listen to this I just want my friends n children to get turned on by what is real music with A meaning BRAVO
I feel it
Love it! Thank you very much!
Wonderful.. Over 200 years later.
I still have preserved this version as 33 RPM Record since last 30years.
On overall balance this is my favourite version that I've heard. It isn't better in every way than other versions but If I could make my perfect hybrid version I would take most sections from this version. Fabulous full bodied recording too, the positioning of the recording equipment was spot on.
If anyone would to listen to the ending of a 1962 Philips pressing of this recording, please go to my channel and watch my video entitled '1812 Overture Original Sound Mix'.
You will hear a different stereo spread of the church bells and centrally-imaged cannon fire.
I don't know if the original 1958 Mercury release was also mixed this way, but this is my Philips cut from 1962.
Much better in all respects than Dorati's Detroit recording 20 years later.
Still the best. It may always be the best, or it will be for my lifetime.
Please never remove this
I think I should not remove.
All Time Favorite
1812年はこの演奏に限る！！
Symphony Orchestra & Band: that's the true 1812!!! W O N D E R F U L.
Mercury set the pattern for fidelity with simplicity only 3 mikesfor full bodied stereo left centre and right amalgamed to two channels all mikes hung over the orchestra and thats it ! Never been bettered and set a standard that is now sadly lacking on CD's
This recording came out when I was 17. It was too much. I never heard anything like it. The fidelity was ahead of it's time.
I have 2 of these 33 vinyls. The flip side CAPRICIO ITALIAN IS TERRIF ALSO. BOUGHT IN 1966
so do i terrific
The pieces on this cd are from 2 different lps. I have cd and original copies on Lp in good condition. It is just more beautiful and alive on the old school stereo. I use pioneer and dual turntables. Love parts after this and beethoven piece, showing what it took for the cannons and bells. And the bells beautiful. But this is nice as i can travel with it.
Every clip of this cuts off the final volley of cannon. Why?!?!?
Bravo!
Good! Great control up to about 14''.
This is a great recording but I must admit that I like the 1954 version, even though in mono, even more.Apart from not being in stereo, it can't be improved upon.
I have an other recording but know of this one . I think the tempo in this performance is a little fast. just my thoughts !!!
Is this available for sale as I cannot locate it. My dad was telling me about it today and how he lost his original Vinyl Copy and I would love to be able to find a copy for him for Xmas. I recently had the privilege of playing at the RAH with the RLPO, and Vasily Petrenko. I played the last three minutes of the 1812 with my Brass band, Besses o' th' Barn Band. We also played all the way through Verdi's Triumphal March from Aida with the Orchestra. It was phenomenal. The indoor fireworks and the Digital Cannons were magnificent, and it was extremely emotional. That is why the subject came up with my dad
+halsasaurus1 You can usually buy vinyl copies on Ebay.
I have an early 1960s version of this same recording, but different mix on a Philips label LP.
This is still available on Amazon.
www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mercury-Living-Presence-1812-434360-2-DORATI-TCHAIKOVSKY-1812/222999708205?epid=114598974&hash=item33ebd1822d:g:fkIAAOSwRRZbEAxz
I have the CD, purchased more than 10 years ago.
@@ukpropaganda I cannot remember ever seeing these replies- I cannot believe it
Omfg!!
Unbelievable
Tube 的聲音 還是跟黑膠唱片聲音差很多…… 聲音模糊 定位也差很多 不過也是tube 比較好的一個版本
Russian Victory never tasted so good, lol
ka-fucken-boom !!!
And so said Lord Dobby .
And they used french cannons to record this...
6:55
Omfg
watching this before Putin's interview, kek