Call of War is a fun game! Strategy fans will enjoy it: callofwar.onelink.me/q5L6/64bb1ee3 And for the love of everything, somebody, anybody, please recreate our logo in Bannerlord and send it to us. I need it!
It's somewhat refreshing to see 2 brothers "kiss and make up" after history has time and time again shown that brothers can be the bitterest of enemies
I thought about it too most of the times they killed each one in order to succeed as the king or something like that but this was nice that they could resolved by giving him some titles which is not unreasonable as he done his fair share in the battles
It makes it clear that these two where *people* not just historical personas. They where two brothers who had a quarrel and then made up with each other, the kind of thing most families can imagine happening. The difference being that these two had *armies.*
I'm from Taranto, in south Italy we have a dance called "tarantella", due to the fact that people who came in contact with that tarantula move like mad people and that movements created the "tarantella"
@MM 20 Thanks man. I mean, if we see that the fight with the virus is going badly we still can ally with it and then do the classical sudden but inevitable Italian Betrayal. Worked every time so far
As a Sicilian, I can testify that the diversity and richness of culture still make Sicily a fascinating place to live, especially since we learned to make great food combining the cultures of all the people who came here
@@محمدانعم-ذ9د You should see american media, they haven't told the truth once the entire time I've been alive lol. It's like something out of science fiction novel like orwell. They fake it till they make it lol.
We think of Sicily as fundamentally, thoroughly European. It's mind-bending to ponder that the Emirate of Sicily lasted 250 years. For perspective, the independent US has yet to hit that mark... ouch, my brain...
@@Zezzoo22 the Fatimid Arabs they stayed in Sicily less than 150 years... The Normans they were already Christians French And Europeans... they expelled all the Arabs Muslims... The emperor Frederick the second of Svevia did excellent things in Sicily...I have admired his mausoleum in Palermo and his parliament... they use to call him... Stupor Mundi... Latin for Marvel of the world...
I'm from Reggio Calabria: it's amazing to see how this all happened in the land I was born. During this time of quarantine I'm passing away from home and working in an hospital this video helped me feel at home again, made my think of the sea I was born right by and the smell of the land I belong to.
@Tawrad Aden that's pretty much the only unit which comes toe-to-toe, it's a tossup since they are pretty similar, but the rest of the roster is a done deal against swadians
I have seen you give a lot of attentions to my island and its history, which you tell very fairly, I really thank you in the name of all sicilians. I wish you the best.
Mercenaries causing trouble in North Eastern Sicily and an army from North Africa coming to stop them. With Syracuse and South Eastern Sicily being conquered last....where have I seen all this before?
It's because of topics like this one that I love King's and Generals. It's such a specific topic that it gets overlooked in all history lessons and can be considered an obscure topics. But me being a young high school history teacher with a diverse classroom, I appreciate a topic like this that demonstrates diversity in history.
This is an excellent video with superb research that your channel presents to an audience who is willing to learn. It is a shame that most educational institutions, especially in America, fail to teach such history.
There is a really cool book: "A Sultan in Palermo" that talks about the period after Normans conquered Sicily, and the mixture of cultures. A really captivating novel.
Cerami is one of my favorite battles, wish we could've gotten a full look at the siege of bari (can't go into detail for them all I suppose). Would be cool to cover the Norman expeditions into byzantium, some epic battles there like the crushing defeat outside durazo (dyrachium) of alexius comnenus.
Great guys!!! Yours videos are a huge pleasure to see. I really appreciate your objectivity, the way you're relating those historical events. As i crazy lover of war battles, can you promise us to propose an episode of the battles between Italians and Ethiopians during and before WI-WII ? Thanks a lot. :)
For having visited normand monuments in Sicily it was clearly one of the most prosperous kingdom both financially and intellectually with really competent architects. Basically the normands employed greek, arab and western european architects and combined every best aspects of their style
The mongols also employed capable people without taking prejuices about nationality or religion, same with the turks, that way the could improve so much, so fast.
This channel . so detailed. In all honesty I couldn't tell you if it was storytime or not. The accuracy. But the broad Strokes and little details make it a superior Channel
He must be new then, for many a time during the tight formations and the chaotic din of melee in the past, was a man named Devin, hovering in the air upon a broom, posturing towards the masses an apparatus shaped like a tube unknown to the vast majority of human history, whilst uttering insightful words to seemingly no one. The rest of his brethren were indifferent, for it wasn't the first time they've witnessed such a spectacle
Did you know that king of vulga Bulgaria embraced Islam in 920 (66 years before Russia became christian). In 921 Ahmad ibn Fadlan was sent by caliph Al mutadir to teach them the Muslim way of life. If you're really interested in coming Arab bonds, the accounts of Ahmad ibn Fadlan is for you. Very detailed and authentic. Unlike the '13th warrior'.
It is the funnest! You can Holy War all through Africa, you can poke your nose into Spain, you can infiltrate the HRE or Byzantines, and you get to be on the Frontlines of the Crusades!
The best campaign. Wars with expansionist Byzantines and the Holy Roman Empire, crusades for Sicily or North Africa, a good position to eventually strike out for Spain if the mood strikes, or head east, conquer your Byzantine rivals once and for all declare yourself Basileus. Not mention expansion in Italy, war with the Papal States, excommunication, and potentially antipope shenanigans. What's not to love?
The Normans are my favorite medieval warriors, their story is epic. Normandy, England, Ireland, Italy, Sicily, Tunisia, Balkans, Crusades, Antioch, they were everywhere.
Are you planning to cover the Norman Invasion of North Africa as part of this series? I know very little about it, but it seems like a fascinating aspect of history.
The Hauteville's feud was indeed comical. Robert snuck into the town for a meeting with some notable. At which point he was captured by the locals who wanted to gut him. Roger apon hearing this told the townspeople that Robert was his to punish and not a hair to be harmed on his head. The two brothers reconciled then subjugated the town.
When the video started I got excited when I heard the ancestors legacy music, I love that you guys are using that soundtrack now and I hope you continue to use it
@Syed Ahmed Yes, mostly because of hot climate where heavy armor makes rider faint. However nothing short of guns, pikes and trenches can deal with knights. Only Ottomans were able to beat them outside of desert thanks to guns.
@Syed Ahmed Arabs would have have used knight style of combat as well if it was suitable for the climate after all cataphract is persian invention, however hot climate made it unpopular.
@@muhammedfawaz3500 You're delusional buddy. Normans lost in Africa as it was unrealistic campaign. They were wanted for hire by everyone even arabs which shows that they were best warriors of their age. Like Normans are 2 meter tall 120 killos heavy armed to the teeth being warriors since childhood. What equivalent any nation of that time had to them. They were not humans they were giants for their age. Everybody wanted them for bodyguard. Emperors, Kings, Emirs. Also i doubt there were ever tens of thousands of Normans at all let alone soldiers. I got nothing against your sources but Norway and Denmark even today combined have hardly 10 million people for them to go all the way to Africa thousand years ago and bring more than 3000 and that's a stretch would take a miracle. They were not empire buildiers they were raiders and mercaneries. Them losing to great Empire is expected.
*Awesome documentary!* I would love for you guys to also cover some of the other Mediterranean Muslim emirates such as Crete and Córdoba during this period.
Hi guys I absolutely love your work! Little suggestion : could you share a link for part one in the video description next time? Its a little annoying trying to find part one of a story on the channel. Thank you for your time and continue the god like work!
Definitely agree! While we’re at it with suggestions, I assume most people watch these videos on their phone. The letters used for the place names and people are incredibly small on mobile. Please make them larger!
I’ve been studying history chronologically from the dawn of humanity up to, right now I’m in the 1060s. Ive been going for two years on this project. I’ve been waiting sooo long to finally get to the Norman conquest of southern Italy and Sicily. Ever since I saw the screen cap of the “Norman Culture in Sicily” video you guys did, I’ve always wondered how the hell that happened. Now, I’m here. Such an interesting little side story of history.
Why haven't the story of the De Hauteville brothers and the normans been made into a major historical drama tv-series yet?! I mean it's got everything: war, intrigue, excitement, brotherly love. Come on, it writes itself.
@@alizaheer6722 Because our gutless/treacherous western media are too afraid to potentially offend any culture other than Western white Christian males.
@@ceowulf7328 it would not be insensitive to Muslims it would just tell a story the way it is. Like, The Pacific there was no pussy footing it showed the lengths the Japanese would go to to make life hell for the marines
@@andrewfranciscohughes2481 There isn't currently an infiltration/invasion of fighting age Japanese males into Western nations supported by corrupt politicians and media though is there.
@@umeshambadi2519 Not really wine, wine in heaven will be intoxicating. And greatest reward in heaven is actually seeing Allah. Not what actually is in heaven.
I know i may sound very stereotipically italian in saying this but Sicily is fucking beautiful, i remember visiting it with my parents when i was a child and i have very fond memories of it.
Love how your videos remark the importance of discipline in the military. You get to understand how the lack of leadership and organization explains most, if not all, of defeats.
And after that , they invaded the Tunisian costs from 1048 to 1060 AD until the coming of the Almohad (a Moorish dynasty) to liberate Ifriqiya (Tunisia in Medieval age) ! And by the way there is a French novel called "le dernier templiers " that talk about the 9th Cursades and Roger II of Normands ; it's a fantasy history novel I recommend it 👌 🙂
it looks like k and g are focusing on sicily first sicilian mafia and then the norman invasion ang greek cathaginian war on sicilly slave ebellion on sicily love your videoes
Sicily is my favorite place in European History. Smack in the middle of the Med, a good size island, nice weather. Whenever I play a history game, I play in Sicily.
Two things I will always love about this channel is 1. Their ability to explain these events in incredible detail. And 2. Their use of glass shattering effects😂❤️ Edit: Bonus thing I love is the sound of crashing bricks when a revolt is crushed😳😤🔥
It wasn't that uncommon at the period. The almoravid were heavy drinkers, as were the Nasrid, the ilkanid or the many sufi sects like the Bektashi. This did not stop most of them from being pious Muslims in other regards. Different times, different practices. Edit: not almoravid, abbasid
@@theghosthero6173 orientalists pushing this phenomenon where Muslims 1000 years ago were common drinkers and homosexuality and erotica was rife. Lies.
@@MG-mt3ss You can't learn all periods and all parts of the World history by default. I got pretty decent educational historical knowledge, the rest is always up to me :D
@@MordimersChessChannel That is understandable. If you want to understand the background (of the people) of modern day Europe, you have to go to this time period preceding the establishment of the present nations.
You need to remember the locals as well. The sicilian natives were so used to new rulers that they formed a quote and mindset, still valid to this day, that says: "it's better to learn from others, than others learn from you". Basically, if you want to stay free and alive, pander the rulers while retain your beliefs
Well these Norman brothers really went through thick and thin in their epic adventure outside of the sleepy Contentin peninsula of the Norman duchy. When there was a chance for Roger to actually become a great Duke of all southern Italy or King of southern Italy, he would rather meet half way and embrace his older brother Robert who was a less merciful man and a brutal warlord. What most imperial or regal dynasties would have done was to eliminate their own brothers and sisters to gain power, the Hauteville dynasty was build on the backs of this band of brothers, who fought and bled for one another as they were also blood brothers. One of the very few instances of family loyalty, strong bonds of love and kinship, and their tendency to stay the hand and execute political brilliance like the capture and the fantastic treatment of the Pope after they wiped out the papal forces at Civitate 1053, shows that these Hautevilles were more than just brutal and powerful military men, but they were also sophisticated, highly intellectual and ambitious enough to assimilate and empower their foreign subjects to co-rule with them. It was something the Lombards and the Byzantine Romans could not achieve as those duchies and Roman provinces were run by autocrats who always want their own culture, their own laws, their way or the highway approach to get things done. That is why the Byzantine Romans failed so terribly in their "re expansion". They thought themselves to be wealthy and can do what they want. But they did not realize that Italy was no longer the old Roman Italy, neither was the old Eastern Rome the same as Byzantine Romans. Culturally things have changed, ethnicity is different and the balance of power of martial prowess is shifting to the barbarians who by now have already long adopted Roman fighting technology and techniques and developed counters to them. The very fact that the Normans, former Vikings, Scandinavian savages who worshipped a pantheon of ancient nordic gods are now fully Francophiles, further developed their military technology and improved on the Frankish tech and structure, have become the military equivalent as that of a tank fighting infantry. And the armored tank is the armored Norman knight. With a batch of 30 of them, they can split apart hundreds of men in a formation with a powerful charge and they can do it with a counter charge again and again, until the line breaks and that is the end of the battle. Not until the development of pikes and powerful longbows did this notion of an "armored knight" fade away as being the battlefield ultimate trump card.
@@islamerica3032 Arabs sometimes call animal names on people for a character in the person that is found also in the animal. for example the last strong Caliph of the Umayyed dynasty is called Marwan Al-Hemar (the donkey) because he is patient and can handle pressure and heavy weights like a donkey. I don't know what's the reason behind The kalbids name but I guess it is the same reason
They were descended from the Arabian Banu Kalb tribe. The tribe's progenitor was born in a family in which all of the children were named after wild animals.
Thank you all for the interesting answers.....I'm Arabic and I've always known words like dog and donkey to have a very negative connotation in our culture.
@@derptrolling4740 There were still plenty of Greeks in the region... actually, there are still Greeks in the region today. And Albanians for that matter.
Sicilian history is incredibly intense, being the key for the Mediterranean control. The Sicilian Vesper War is our "Roses war" but it's pretty much ignored by much of the world - you wont find that lot of good videos about this topic, unfortunatelly.
Just a small edit Kings and Generals: when you say in minute 19:48 that the Normans finally conquered all of Sicily in 1091 abd that ended ALMOST 2 centuries of Muslim rule, that's actually a bit more. Simply that, great work as always guys. Would support you on patreon if I oculd afford it ^^
assaniations, rebellions, mind games, treacherous tactics, brotherly hate and love, etc. this would make a great movie (or film series!). on a side note, its strange how such a very small force of christians managed to defeat such a large muslim army in a straight up land battle though. absolutely insane. the cavlarly charges of medieval Christian knights were always extremely brutal though, even in very low numbers they more than often managed to break entire army lines.
You may laugh about that brotherly moment between Robert and Roger, but I'm watching this right after watching a video about the Succession Crisis of 1087 and it's nice to see a family that isn't *totally* dysfunctional
I know two girls from Sicily one is a brown eyed, olive skin and crooked nosed the other blue eyed with blonde hair. I believe their ancestors fought each other in that war🙂
Bro why do people think that mediterranean people are so different? Before the arabs came people were already brown eyed, olive skin... The mediterranean area is easily the most diverse in terms of genetics because since people are people different colonies have been built all over it. Phoenicians, greeks, celts, romans, etc
@@rafitohornero3850 I do not think the French Normans mixed with the local population, they were too few, it was not a settlement colony, they just ruled the land.
The muslims history is so heartbreaking , they went from full glory and amazing victories against all odds to civil wars and brother killing brother. It's so obvious the mistakes of the past must be learned so we don't repeat them , and those who forget history are doomed to repeat the same mistakes
I love that Thrones of Britannia music at 7:06. The game is not the best but it’s fun to play as Viking Sea Kings pillaging the Anglo Saxon’s. Great video as always! Buying some merch soon!
@@eraselife7654 The Kingdom of Africa made up quite a decent portion of the region. Even then, they fought several times against the Fatimids and Almohads
Aleksa Petrovic ask yourself why carriers are the new battleships, obsolete weapons for obsolete conflicts. Chinese islands indeed are useless to control the south china sea.
Aleksa Petrovic cyprus and malta are diffent things, more specific. They have an intrinsic 0 strategic value per se, but who controls malta can interfere with italian projection in north africa (thats what happened in wwii), same goes with cyprus that, if controlled by anyone, can disrupt egyptian suez canal control. Still, neither of them is functional to control the mediterranean, they have very specific geopolitical strategic functions
This is my favorite part of norman history. It interesting to know that the normans still let some of the muslim nobility run the iqta in western Sicily. Its really suprising how a the normans could hold together a realm made up of Lombards, Greeks, Arabs and Berbers being just a small ruling class.
Interesting how it's generally vastly outnumbered Germanic armies that send Arabic armies packing: Franks at Tours, Normans in Sicily and Austrians at Vienna.
Fractions within the army (Al-Andalus->Tours) Fractions within the realm, continuation of decline of Arab Muslim rule “Taifas” (Sicily) Declining after reaching their prime (Vienna)
Ahl Gren well, looking at what they concluded,,, a big difference, Muslim dominance paved a way for a golden age that influenced the hole world which benefits are felt till now, while crusades and reqonquista were massacring people only, so no greatness in them at all, reqonquista it self destroyed a great civilization brought by Muslims to Iberia and Europe, just like what mongols did to Baghdad,,, have a good time.
O Lord Jesus Christ. . Those Christian Vikings called Normans must be the coolest Germanic tribe ever and probably the Greatest warriors of mediavel ages when its comes to hand to hand combat
@@cyrusthegreat9386 There was a film on him though. Just not by Hollywood, Americans are, unfortunately, too ignorant to even be able to differentiate north Africans from Arabs
Call of War is a fun game! Strategy fans will enjoy it: callofwar.onelink.me/q5L6/64bb1ee3
And for the love of everything, somebody, anybody, please recreate our logo in Bannerlord and send it to us. I need it!
Make the baideng war next pls 🐉🇨🇳
@@nenenindonu Yes make battle of Baideng im turkish
Is call of War pay to win?
@@Monkey_SK Of course it is!
@@nenenindonu Modu Shanyu?
I love how you guys say it was "completely and utterly reasonable" to abandon an entire war campaign due to some tarantulas.
I'm thinking dysentery outbreak as more likely though less dignified.
Inside joke
Divine intervention I say..lol 😉
They were arachni-cated
I remember that siege from Horrible Histories.
It's somewhat refreshing to see 2 brothers "kiss and make up" after history has time and time again shown that brothers can be the bitterest of enemies
Thought I was early enough to be the 1st to say this. They seemed to actually love & respect each other.
It's always easy for brothers to make up when one has the other completely at his mercy and the other one knows it and apologizes and makes nice.
@@jesseberg3271 He could also have killed him .. so I was still happy that they reconciled.
I thought about it too most of the times they killed each one in order to succeed as the king or something like that but this was nice that they could resolved by giving him some titles which is not unreasonable as he done his fair share in the battles
It makes it clear that these two where *people* not just historical personas. They where two brothers who had a quarrel and then made up with each other, the kind of thing most families can imagine happening.
The difference being that these two had *armies.*
LMAO that has to be the funniest tactical advantage: alcohol tolerance.
Perhaps i could be a RED WEDDING?
"Their camp was infested with a species of venomous tarantula."
Uhhh venomous what now? Oh HELL NO! You can keep this dumb island I'm going home!
And that’s the story of Australia’s independence
I'm Sicilian, and I've never heard of such a species on the island. It might have gone extinct some time ago (atleast I hope so)
Rather tame reaction by the Normans. Would have been entirely reasonable to burn the whole island to the ground after that.
HANS!!!!
@@madijeis4320 Fun fact, the name "tarantula" has it's roots from the city of Taranto
*Outnumbered 100 to 1*: "CHARGE!!!!!!!"
*Sees Spider*:"RUN FOR YOUR LIVES!!!"
The only possible reaction
They had Saint George leading the charge at Cerami. At Palermo there was no power in heaven or Earth that could offer salvation
That is why meercats are way more badass than lions.
Seems legit
As a Norwegian... That sounds perfectly reasonable to me! 😂
I'm from Taranto, in south Italy we have a dance called "tarantella", due to the fact that people who came in contact with that tarantula move like mad people and that movements created the "tarantella"
Che figata, non avevo idea. Bellissimo approfondimento!
@@leonardodavid2842 tutto il sud le aveva
@Jorge Paez I just remember that it was due to the spider's poison
@Jorge Paez Both the venom and superstition. Let's say the venom blurs the mind and the superstition does the rest.
@Magvin Dsouza don't know man, but honestly I hope so ahaha
The Italian history hype train is real.
*Insert Italian words*
Coronavirus moment
See... hundreds and hundreds of years ago the Moors conquered Sicily... now, if that's a fact... am I lying?
@@adamschaeffer4057 so... What u mean?
@@titfortat5727 You... are part... EGGPLANT!!
Christians: "You liberated us."
Normans: "I wouldn't say liberated, more like, under new management."
Plot twist: Normans were Christians
@@bosbanon3452 The Normans were famous for their tolerance
@@KingofEuropa07 unless if you're Anglo-Saxon
@@KingofEuropa07 tolerant after their cavalry trampled your male population into nothingness
@@st.mephisto8564 So they were assholes of the same religion, rather then nice guys of another?
Thank you kings and generals for always keeping us entertained with high quality content!
Stay safe!
and I am thinking of those pple who lost their life and living due to the war of these kings
"No muslim army too big can stop us. But a few spiders, now that's a whole new threat level..."
"I fear no man... but that... *thing* (leans closer to camera to whisper) it _scares_ me."
I have heard that tarantulas aren't fairplay players.
They bite them from behind
And they have millions of years experience
LOL! Who could blame them?????
@@شخصياتواحداثعالمية who are you man i am impressed with your thought
thats what i call avenger level threat
These videos are Lifesavers in my quarantine, thanks kings. Everyone be safe
Stay safe!
@@Michael_the_Drunkard they made a vid on chaeronea unless you mean the one with philip II
Stay safe. Your ancestors made it from qurana. You have to over come corona.
@@KingsandGenerals can you add subtitles to this vid?
@Pluto_Kujo Too many Trumpist nutjobs on these history channels.
"Brought to you by: The Sicilian tourist board. Come to Sicily, You'll probably survive!"
Watch out for our spiders!
The spiders defeated a whole norman army. What chance do I have? 🙄
If you don’t come to Sicily we’ll break both your kneecaps capisce?
@MM 20 oops! I've got to go to Sicily now. Not like I've got a choice 🤣😀
@MM 20 Thanks man. I mean, if we see that the fight with the virus is going badly we still can ally with it and then do the classical sudden but inevitable Italian Betrayal. Worked every time so far
As a Sicilian, I can testify that the diversity and richness of culture still make Sicily a fascinating place to live, especially since we learned to make great food combining the cultures of all the people who came here
Your eggplants.
Including tarantulas 😊?
It is unfortunate that the media tarnish the reputation of the island, as the media describe it as the headquarters of the mafia
@@محمدانعم-ذ9د You should see american media, they haven't told the truth once the entire time I've been alive lol. It's like something out of science fiction novel like orwell. They fake it till they make it lol.
@@JoyfulUniter True!
We think of Sicily as fundamentally, thoroughly European. It's mind-bending to ponder that the Emirate of Sicily lasted 250 years. For perspective, the independent US has yet to hit that mark... ouch, my brain...
Sicily was "fundamentally" Mediterranean. Phoenicians, Romans, Greeks, Arabs, Berbers, Normans, Spaniards and so on and so forth.
@@VladVlad-ul1io patrons get early access
@@KingsandGenerals there are a lot of blond sicilians.
Before this Sicilly was roman and greek for over 1000 years.
@@micheleori1644 from the normans and later franks most likely
Italian Kingdom ruled by french vikings conquered the Greek kingdom ruled by north African Arabs.
you mean berbers ?
@@ahmedislam2580 no they were arabs at the time of Fatimid Caliphate
@@Zezzoo22 the Fatimid Arabs they stayed in Sicily less than 150 years... The Normans they were already Christians French
And Europeans... they expelled all the Arabs Muslims... The emperor Frederick the second of Svevia did excellent things in Sicily...I have admired his mausoleum in Palermo and his parliament... they use to call him... Stupor Mundi... Latin for Marvel of the world...
@@ahmedislam2580 no they were authentic Arabs
@@ahmedislam2580 you mean Arabs fucked you that's why you're butthurt about them lol
I'm from Reggio Calabria: it's amazing to see how this all happened in the land I was born. During this time of quarantine I'm passing away from home and working in an hospital this video helped me feel at home again, made my think of the sea I was born right by and the smell of the land I belong to.
Spero che tu possa tornare presto, amico. Saluti di California!
Aaron Marks ❤️
The Normans took Sicily with Mount and Blade Warband numbers lmao
Wait until this guy finds out about Mount and Blade Bannerlord
@@borkmapper7419 No I specifically meant Warband.
Wonder how often they had to reload the battle
To be honest, Swadian Knights steamroll through every Sarranid unit XD
@Tawrad Aden that's pretty much the only unit which comes toe-to-toe, it's a tossup since they are pretty similar, but the rest of the roster is a done deal against swadians
I have seen you give a lot of attentions to my island and its history, which you tell very fairly, I really thank you in the name of all sicilians. I wish you the best.
Mercenaries causing trouble in North Eastern Sicily and an army from North Africa coming to stop them.
With Syracuse and South Eastern Sicily being conquered last....where have I seen all this before?
Age of Chivalry: Medieval Warfare?
@@theemirofjaffa2266 ***whispers:*** I think they meant the Roman conquest of Sicily in the First and Second Punic Wars.
@@mdivmapperandgamer1138 It was glorious time to be a Roman.
You saw it in Al- Andalus bro
@@mdivmapperandgamer1138 🤝🤝👍🤜😉
It's because of topics like this one that I love King's and Generals. It's such a specific topic that it gets overlooked in all history lessons and can be considered an obscure topics. But me being a young high school history teacher with a diverse classroom, I appreciate a topic like this that demonstrates diversity in history.
👍🏼 you sound like a good teacher and I agree with you, yes indeed
I’ve always loved this video,these conquests were beautifully executed.this is how brothers should have each other’s backs.
This channel has gotten so good with time, thanks for uploading more often.
This is an excellent video with superb research that your channel presents to an audience who is willing to learn.
It is a shame that most educational institutions, especially in America, fail to teach such history.
Thanks for doing such an excellent job at these history lessons. Such good production!
There is a really cool book: "A Sultan in Palermo" that talks about the period after Normans conquered Sicily, and the mixture of cultures. A really captivating novel.
Cerami is one of my favorite battles, wish we could've gotten a full look at the siege of bari (can't go into detail for them all I suppose). Would be cool to cover the Norman expeditions into byzantium, some epic battles there like the crushing defeat outside durazo (dyrachium) of alexius comnenus.
Great guys!!! Yours videos are a huge pleasure to see. I really appreciate your objectivity, the way you're relating those historical events.
As i crazy lover of war battles, can you promise us to propose an episode of the battles between Italians and Ethiopians during and before WI-WII ? Thanks a lot. :)
For having visited normand monuments in Sicily it was clearly one of the most prosperous kingdom both financially and intellectually with really competent architects. Basically the normands employed greek, arab and western european architects and combined every best aspects of their style
The mongols also employed capable people without taking prejuices about nationality or religion, same with the turks, that way the could improve so much, so fast.
@@s.v.848 Don't see how relevant is your comment, being that nobody, absolutely nobody talked about morals, be sure to go to the oculist.
@@ignaciotaborda6538 it's just envy about the great Italy Italy history
@@s.v.848 The Turks kept the Mongols out of Europe. They also wash there backsides.
Manly Greek and Roman
Channel continues to rightfully grow under the epic work of the team.
This channel . so detailed. In all honesty I couldn't tell you if it was storytime or not. The accuracy. But the broad Strokes and little details make it a superior Channel
8:24 soldier's jaw drops to see a time traveller filming him
He must be new then, for many a time during the tight formations and the chaotic din of melee in the past, was a man named Devin, hovering in the air upon a broom, posturing towards the masses an apparatus shaped like a tube unknown to the vast majority of human history, whilst uttering insightful words to seemingly no one. The rest of his brethren were indifferent, for it wasn't the first time they've witnessed such a spectacle
lol!
@@2008davidkang 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Tiny tarantulas: *exists and just chilling*
Heavy armoured Norman Knights: "Now this is an avengers level threat!"
Can you do the Vikings versus the Muslims in lisbon and Seville?
Jc Denton That would be pretty awesome. History Time has some good coverage on Viking interaction with the Abbasids and umayyads.
From what i read it did not go well for the vikings as the show portrayed
Adam Neuser You are right the Viking and arab history are awesome !
Just an Anvil yes i read about it but i need to know more information about these battles !
Did you know that king of vulga Bulgaria embraced Islam in 920 (66 years before Russia became christian). In 921 Ahmad ibn Fadlan was sent by caliph Al mutadir to teach them the Muslim way of life. If you're really interested in coming Arab bonds, the accounts of Ahmad ibn Fadlan is for you. Very detailed and authentic. Unlike the '13th warrior'.
One more fascinating episode of Medieval History in the Mediterranean area ! Thanks for this well-documented and lively presentation.
By the way: Robert Guiscard has a pretty fun campaign in 1066 CK2! I highly recommend it.
i prefer to convert italy to islam in my ck2 game
It is the funnest! You can Holy War all through Africa, you can poke your nose into Spain, you can infiltrate the HRE or Byzantines, and you get to be on the Frontlines of the Crusades!
The best campaign. Wars with expansionist Byzantines and the Holy Roman Empire, crusades for Sicily or North Africa, a good position to eventually strike out for Spain if the mood strikes, or head east, conquer your Byzantine rivals once and for all declare yourself Basileus. Not mention expansion in Italy, war with the Papal States, excommunication, and potentially antipope shenanigans.
What's not to love?
Yes Robert the Fox is always a fun campaign; very powerful character
The Normans are my favorite medieval warriors, their story is epic. Normandy, England, Ireland, Italy, Sicily, Tunisia, Balkans, Crusades, Antioch, they were everywhere.
And spain
Roger 1er de tosny -> reconquista
Are you planning to cover the Norman Invasion of North Africa as part of this series? I know very little about it, but it seems like a fascinating aspect of history.
I agree they actually held onto some of the North African coast for a little while. There is very little information on this though.
@@antiochusiiithegreat7721 because it's didn't last very long... A decade or so
They lost in rabat and Algeria and also in Spain
@@christophedel2642
Lmao you got handled by abd Rahman "al awsat" with the might of Allah
But though i give it to ya viking's warrior culture is great
The Hauteville's feud was indeed comical.
Robert snuck into the town for a meeting with some notable. At which point he was captured by the locals who wanted to gut him. Roger apon hearing this told the townspeople that Robert was his to punish and not a hair to be harmed on his head. The two brothers reconciled then subjugated the town.
When the video started I got excited when I heard the ancestors legacy music, I love that you guys are using that soundtrack now and I hope you continue to use it
One of my favorite serieses on this astonishing channel
The heavy cavalry played a crucial role in all the Norman victories
the bane of the muslims, armor and big horses with lances on top
@Syed Ahmed Yes, mostly because of hot climate where heavy armor makes rider faint. However nothing short of guns, pikes and trenches can deal with knights. Only Ottomans were able to beat them outside of desert thanks to guns.
@Syed Ahmed Arabs would have have used knight style of combat as well if it was suitable for the climate after all cataphract is persian invention, however hot climate made it unpopular.
@@muhammedfawaz3500 You're delusional buddy. Normans lost in Africa as it was unrealistic campaign. They were wanted for hire by everyone even arabs which shows that they were best warriors of their age. Like Normans are 2 meter tall 120 killos heavy armed to the teeth being warriors since childhood. What equivalent any nation of that time had to them. They were not humans they were giants for their age. Everybody wanted them for bodyguard. Emperors, Kings, Emirs. Also i doubt there were ever tens of thousands of Normans at all let alone soldiers. I got nothing against your sources but Norway and Denmark even today combined have hardly 10 million people for them to go all the way to Africa thousand years ago and bring more than 3000 and that's a stretch would take a miracle. They were not empire buildiers they were raiders and mercaneries. Them losing to great Empire is expected.
@@abcdc197 Ok 2 meters is an exaggeration. They werent taller than people today. It is just that everybody else was so small.
*Awesome documentary!* I would love for you guys to also cover some of the other Mediterranean Muslim emirates such as Crete and Córdoba during this period.
Yeah I'd pay for a generated playlist detailing battles where Muslim forces were slaughtered 😀☻
@@Jason-gg4lm😂sack of Constantinople 1206 AD so called christian brotherhood 😂
@@deanticocombar7529 I just care about when the Christians beat the muslims 🤷♂️😀👍
@@Jason-gg4lm 👍 Good for you.Are you Italian
@@deanticocombar7529 nope
Hi guys I absolutely love your work! Little suggestion : could you share a link for part one in the video description next time? Its a little annoying trying to find part one of a story on the channel. Thank you for your time and continue the god like work!
Definitely agree! While we’re at it with suggestions, I assume most people watch these videos on their phone. The letters used for the place names and people are incredibly small on mobile. Please make them larger!
I love your videos! You should expand this series to cover the norman/sicilian conquest of north Africa
Excellent historic channel in clearly explaining events in historical terms, trust
I started reading about the Normans again a week ago. This is a godsend
I’ve been studying history chronologically from the dawn of humanity up to, right now I’m in the 1060s. Ive been going for two years on this project.
I’ve been waiting sooo long to finally get to the Norman conquest of southern Italy and Sicily. Ever since I saw the screen cap of the “Norman Culture in Sicily” video you guys did, I’ve always wondered how the hell that happened. Now, I’m here. Such an interesting little side story of history.
Why haven't the story of the De Hauteville brothers and the normans been made into a major historical drama tv-series yet?! I mean it's got everything: war, intrigue, excitement, brotherly love. Come on, it writes itself.
Because it is insensitive to Muslims. 😬
@@ceowulf7328 why would u say that?
@@alizaheer6722 Because our gutless/treacherous western media are too afraid to potentially offend any culture other than Western white Christian males.
@@ceowulf7328 it would not be insensitive to Muslims it would just tell a story the way it is. Like, The Pacific there was no pussy footing it showed the lengths the Japanese would go to to make life hell for the marines
@@andrewfranciscohughes2481 There isn't currently an infiltration/invasion of fighting age Japanese males into Western nations supported by corrupt politicians and media though is there.
Is so great that my favorite RUclips channel puts out new and always awesome videos so frequently! Y'all are the best!
That part muslim becomes drunk is funny af 🤣🤣
One reason why Muslims don’t drink
@@donjon6244 they are promised prosititues and wine when they reach heaven !
@@umeshambadi2519you're so ignorant
@@umeshambadi2519 or it’s bad for our health
@@umeshambadi2519 Not really wine, wine in heaven will be intoxicating. And greatest reward in heaven is actually seeing Allah. Not what actually is in heaven.
Venomous tarantula: exists
Normans: Understandable have a nice day
Amazing content...keep up the good work :)
Thank you!
@@KingsandGenerals I'm pretty new to the channel but I find it fascinating, I love learning :) You have any Irish history on your channel?
@@CyrusGris a few tangential videos, nothing concrete, I afraid
@@KingsandGenerals We have a long and interesting history ..maybe you should do a few 😁
I know i may sound very stereotipically italian in saying this but Sicily is fucking beautiful, i remember visiting it with my parents when i was a child and i have very fond memories of it.
Palermo and Messina are very beautiful
How about the spiders? Seen any spiders there?
Love how your videos remark the importance of discipline in the military. You get to understand how the lack of leadership and organization explains most, if not all, of defeats.
And after that , they invaded the Tunisian costs from 1048 to 1060 AD until the coming of the Almohad (a Moorish dynasty) to liberate Ifriqiya (Tunisia in Medieval age) ! And by the way there is a French novel called "le dernier templiers " that talk about the 9th Cursades and Roger II of Normands ; it's a fantasy history novel I recommend it 👌 🙂
it looks like k and g are focusing on sicily
first sicilian mafia and then the norman invasion ang greek cathaginian war on sicilly slave ebellion on sicily
love your videoes
Yes ! High quality content
Sicily is my favorite place in European History. Smack in the middle of the Med, a good size island, nice weather. Whenever I play a history game, I play in Sicily.
My family is from the island so I love learning about it! Totally agree!
Two things I will always love about this channel is 1. Their ability to explain these events in incredible detail. And 2. Their use of glass shattering effects😂❤️
Edit: Bonus thing I love is the sound of crashing bricks when a revolt is crushed😳😤🔥
Nice work as always K&G's! I enjoy Islamic/Christian battles that don't take place in the Holy Land. It gives us such a different perspective.
Best channel on RUclips! Your videos are always so interesting and exciting so thank you for that :)
Muslims drinking wine 🤦🏻♂️
Haram my habibi
It wasn't that uncommon at the period. The almoravid were heavy drinkers, as were the Nasrid, the ilkanid or the many sufi sects like the Bektashi. This did not stop most of them from being pious Muslims in other regards. Different times, different practices.
Edit: not almoravid, abbasid
@@theghosthero6173 orientalists pushing this phenomenon where Muslims 1000 years ago were common drinkers and homosexuality and erotica was rife. Lies.
Almost all Ottoman Sultans were drinking wine or raki. Most of the Muslim conquests were not religious in nature.
@@returntotradition4209 Not homosexuality. Homoeroticism is different.
Awesome, haven't known this part of Mediterranean history...
The educational institutions are failing to teach history.
@@MG-mt3ss You can't learn all periods and all parts of the World history by default. I got pretty decent educational historical knowledge, the rest is always up to me :D
@@MordimersChessChannel That is understandable. If you want to understand the background (of the people) of modern day Europe, you have to go to this time period preceding the establishment of the present nations.
@@MG-mt3ss I know :)
these lemons have seen so many regimes.. from greeks to cosa nostra
You need to remember the locals as well. The sicilian natives were so used to new rulers that they formed a quote and mindset, still valid to this day, that says: "it's better to learn from others, than others learn from you". Basically, if you want to stay free and alive, pander the rulers while retain your beliefs
I'm sicilian and I've never heard of that. But that is exactly my mindset. You can call me a loser, but I want to stay alive.
This video was excellent!
More and more history videos...love em all..Thanks
The relationship between these two bros is really wholesome :)
Well... you know... brothers :)
@@090giver090 History and circumstance has been less merciful on other siblings
@@kasinokaiser1319 Right. Sibling rivalry is a thing.
@@090giver090 And especially in these times
You are right. I me heared of any other siblings that fought a civil war and reconciliated in a personal (and not political) way.
Well these Norman brothers really went through thick and thin in their epic adventure outside of the sleepy Contentin peninsula of the Norman duchy. When there was a chance for Roger to actually become a great Duke of all southern Italy or King of southern Italy, he would rather meet half way and embrace his older brother Robert who was a less merciful man and a brutal warlord.
What most imperial or regal dynasties would have done was to eliminate their own brothers and sisters to gain power, the Hauteville dynasty was build on the backs of this band of brothers, who fought and bled for one another as they were also blood brothers.
One of the very few instances of family loyalty, strong bonds of love and kinship, and their tendency to stay the hand and execute political brilliance like the capture and the fantastic treatment of the Pope after they wiped out the papal forces at Civitate 1053, shows that these Hautevilles were more than just brutal and powerful military men, but they were also sophisticated, highly intellectual and ambitious enough to assimilate and empower their foreign subjects to co-rule with them. It was something the Lombards and the Byzantine Romans could not achieve as those duchies and Roman provinces were run by autocrats who always want their own culture, their own laws, their way or the highway approach to get things done.
That is why the Byzantine Romans failed so terribly in their "re expansion". They thought themselves to be wealthy and can do what they want. But they did not realize that Italy was no longer the old Roman Italy, neither was the old Eastern Rome the same as Byzantine Romans. Culturally things have changed, ethnicity is different and the balance of power of martial prowess is shifting to the barbarians who by now have already long adopted Roman fighting technology and techniques and developed counters to them.
The very fact that the Normans, former Vikings, Scandinavian savages who worshipped a pantheon of ancient nordic gods are now fully Francophiles, further developed their military technology and improved on the Frankish tech and structure, have become the military equivalent as that of a tank fighting infantry. And the armored tank is the armored Norman knight. With a batch of 30 of them, they can split apart hundreds of men in a formation with a powerful charge and they can do it with a counter charge again and again, until the line breaks and that is the end of the battle. Not until the development of pikes and powerful longbows did this notion of an "armored knight" fade away as being the battlefield ultimate trump card.
For funny information.
The Arab dynasty The Kalbids.
Means literally sons of dogs.
And that wasn't an insult for sure.
Can you expound on this subject?
@@islamerica3032 Arabs sometimes call animal names on people for a character in the person that is found also in the animal. for example the last strong Caliph of the Umayyed dynasty is called Marwan Al-Hemar (the donkey) because he is patient and can handle pressure and heavy weights like a donkey. I don't know what's the reason behind The kalbids name but I guess it is the same reason
Heres another one, Banu Quraish means son of the shark
They were descended from the Arabian Banu Kalb tribe. The tribe's progenitor was born in a family in which all of the children were named after wild animals.
Thank you all for the interesting answers.....I'm Arabic and I've always known words like dog and donkey to have a very negative connotation in our culture.
an excellent, educational and entertaining video
This is so well done. Could you make a video about Frederick II Stupor Mundi or Charles I of Anjou battles of Benevento/Tagliacozzo.
Regards
Normans: We're invading Sicily!
Apulians: Revolt time!
@@derptrolling4740 There were still plenty of Greeks in the region... actually, there are still Greeks in the region today. And Albanians for that matter.
Gets Wrecked by Invaders
Meanwhile
The Sicilian Mafia: *KEEPS PILLAGING*
Sicilian history is incredibly intense, being the key for the Mediterranean control. The Sicilian Vesper War is our "Roses war" but it's pretty much ignored by much of the world - you wont find that lot of good videos about this topic, unfortunatelly.
Just amazing guys well done king and generals!👏👏
Just a small edit Kings and Generals: when you say in minute 19:48 that the Normans finally conquered all of Sicily in 1091 abd that ended ALMOST 2 centuries of Muslim rule, that's actually a bit more. Simply that, great work as always guys. Would support you on patreon if I oculd afford it ^^
assaniations, rebellions, mind games, treacherous tactics, brotherly hate and love, etc.
this would make a great movie (or film series!).
on a side note, its strange how such a very small force of christians managed to defeat such a large muslim army in a straight up land battle though. absolutely insane. the cavlarly charges of medieval Christian knights were always extremely brutal though, even in very low numbers they more than often managed to break entire army lines.
Its amazing how many different foreign soldiers have fought over Sicily for almost 3000 years.
Who would have thought - the Vikings/Norman's Achilles heel was spiders...lol
You may laugh about that brotherly moment between Robert and Roger, but I'm watching this right after watching a video about the Succession Crisis of 1087 and it's nice to see a family that isn't *totally* dysfunctional
Fascinating and under appreciated segment of history.
Last time I was this early, the Westfold still stood strong.
@@stekarknugen9258 Not gondor. Not orc. What is that horn i hear...
I know two girls from Sicily one is a brown eyed, olive skin and crooked nosed the other blue eyed with blonde hair. I believe their ancestors fought each other in that war🙂
30% arab 30% normans 40% sicilian
Bro why do people think that mediterranean people are so different? Before the arabs came people were already brown eyed, olive skin... The mediterranean area is easily the most diverse in terms of genetics because since people are people different colonies have been built all over it. Phoenicians, greeks, celts, romans, etc
@@MrGabiiiii94 not really, several italian ethnics are fair skinned, like i am
@@raptorjesues1445 same as me, pale af, green eyes, black hair. it's called diversity
@@rafitohornero3850 I do not think the French Normans mixed with the local population, they were too few, it was not a settlement colony, they just ruled the land.
The muslims history is so heartbreaking , they went from full glory and amazing victories against all odds to civil wars and brother killing brother. It's so obvious the mistakes of the past must be learned so we don't repeat them , and those who forget history are doomed to repeat the same mistakes
True
I love that Thrones of Britannia music at 7:06. The game is not the best but it’s fun to play as Viking Sea Kings pillaging the Anglo Saxon’s. Great video as always! Buying some merch soon!
True numbers involved in battle is always a fascinating topic to talk about.
All of Europe, the North Atlantic, North Africa, and the Middle East: Exists
The Normans: It's free real estate
When did the Normans conquered all of Europe again?
@@dereinepeterpan5637 They were involved in (to a greater or lesser degree) in at least one conflict for every European region
The Normans barely conquered anything in North-Africa....
@@eraselife7654 The Kingdom of Africa made up quite a decent portion of the region. Even then, they fought several times against the Fatimids and Almohads
Too much
Interesting how Geopolitics is timeless, Sicily is once again the target of North African and Italian interests.
i mean, is right there in the middle
@Aleksa Petrovic in 1800, maybe, today you dont need an island to control a sea.
@@lokibau It really helps, though. They call islands gigantic aircraft carriers. :D
Aleksa Petrovic ask yourself why carriers are the new battleships, obsolete weapons for obsolete conflicts. Chinese islands indeed are useless to control the south china sea.
Aleksa Petrovic cyprus and malta are diffent things, more specific. They have an intrinsic 0 strategic value per se, but who controls malta can interfere with italian projection in north africa (thats what happened in wwii), same goes with cyprus that, if controlled by anyone, can disrupt egyptian suez canal control. Still, neither of them is functional to control the mediterranean, they have very specific geopolitical strategic functions
Sire, the enemy outnumbers us several times.
Any norman leader: finally a worthy opponent! Our battle shall be legendary.
Hey there,Great work,Keep the Sicilian series coming,Love the region
Please do the Battle of Caloocan in the Phillipine-American War, a battle that many do not know about.
This is my favorite part of norman history. It interesting to know that the normans still let some of the muslim nobility run the iqta in western Sicily. Its really suprising how a the normans could hold together a realm made up of Lombards, Greeks, Arabs and Berbers being just a small ruling class.
@Samir Dizco Alright buds.
@Samir Dizco nope
Your re worong
@@qboxer what did he say ?
@@satanwithinternet2753 oh goodness, who knows 2 years later. Probably some Arab supremacist nonsense.
Lombards? What the h are you talking about?
Interesting how it's generally vastly outnumbered Germanic armies that send Arabic armies packing: Franks at Tours, Normans in Sicily and Austrians at Vienna.
@Samir Disco thanks for the correction 👍🏼
Fractions within the army (Al-Andalus->Tours)
Fractions within the realm, continuation of decline of Arab Muslim rule “Taifas” (Sicily)
Declining after reaching their prime (Vienna)
Ahl Gren so explain the early Muslim expansion Mr.genius!
Ahl Gren lol, wear those same glasses when look at any fall of any empire, it’s ABC history
Ahl Gren well, looking at what they concluded,,, a big difference, Muslim dominance paved a way for a golden age that influenced the hole world which benefits are felt till now, while crusades and reqonquista were massacring people only, so no greatness in them at all, reqonquista it self destroyed a great civilization brought by Muslims to Iberia and Europe, just like what mongols did to Baghdad,,, have a good time.
We need to get more videos in normans series more often!!!
Now this is a match up ive never heard of let alone expected. Looking forward to it.
One of the only few times brothers did not kill each other for power.
The elder one certainly tried
9:23 When you're so pissed at your younger brother you go lay siege to his city.
that's a kinda move i'd expect from my eldest brother haha
O Lord Jesus Christ. . Those Christian Vikings called Normans must be the coolest Germanic tribe ever and probably the Greatest warriors of mediavel ages when its comes to hand to hand combat
Love The video !
We need some videos about history of berber kingdoms in north africa
Yes its true everbody speaks only about the one side of the mediteranian sea butt the north african side is always forgotten....
@@mobouz2753 for example why we don't see Hollywood make a movie about the great general hannibal I see kind of racism
@@cyrusthegreat9386 There was a film on him though. Just not by Hollywood, Americans are, unfortunately, too ignorant to even be able to differentiate north Africans from Arabs
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And u think hannibal is bebrer ?!!.lmao he was phoincian
@@ghostd69 I speack only about history of region my friend