It's always an Easter Egg to find another language channel creator in the comments section of another language channel creator. And this time there is a language channel creator interviewing another language channel creator and another language channel creator commenting on the language channel creators' video. Man this is getting deep.
Goddamn when I found his channel he only had 5K subs or something and I was so intrigued! It was inevitable he will grow fast as his method simply works!
Out of curiosity, are you a native English speaker? I just ask because I’ve always (and only ever) heard this phrase said as, “All roads lead to Rome.” Idk if it’s a regional difference or what
@@littlefishbigmountain True that, I just thought "different roads" makes more sense in this context because not all language learning methods lead to fluency lol.
Great video! Whilst the "foreigner speaks perfect..." videos are entertaining, it's refreshing to hear about the actual amount of effort and work that it took to get there
Lol yes finally he doesn't over simplify the process of learning a language. It always interested me waaaaaaaay more to know the brutal process (known more often as "reality") than the "Hey guys just book some italki lessons and you'll be fluent in 30 days"
I'm excited about this channel! I've been slowly getting into Mandarin Chinese and your videos have really encouraged me! Like you, I learned enough English to get around in 3 months just by watching a ridiculous amount of tv shows over the summer after moving to the US from Brazil. I'm excited that I intuitively have been following the process you outlined on your interview with Joseph so my motivation has reached a new level! There's hope!! Thanks so much for all the content and best of luck on all your endeavors! 😊
It's good listen you both. I am learning Japanese and Chinese at the same time. I follow you (Xiaoma and Matt) and the advices that you give us are amazing! Thank you!
Can't wait for the part 2 Keep the good work Matt, u r really doing a great job and i'll never forget that u r the one who made my life easier, if it wans't for this channel i wouldn't be able to understand this interview :O
Fantastic conversation. Your content is highly underrated Matt, I’m about to start my journey to serious immersion for Japanese and you’ve been a big inspiration. Keep up the great work, looking forward to your future videos.
@@SourishBanik It's been good so far. I had to step back a little bit in order to study kanji more since as I progress with my studies it's a little difficult to read even though I know the words.
@@SourishBanik Thank you very much. I try to be reasonable with my expectations. For example for my use case is more important to be able to read and listen than speaking 100% fluently. So I stir towards to that direction. English is not my native language either which for me is also more important to read and listen to english content. Setting expectations is vital I believe.
Matt, you should totally interview Jared Turner and John Pasden, or be a guest on the You Can Learn Chinese Podcast. Your methods probably overlap a little, differ a little, but you all definitely have thought really deeply about language learning as a process, so it could be a great conversation.
It just goes to show that we all have different ways of learning. Me for example, I use movies and subtitles a lot. I've managed to do Spanish, French, Italian, Serbian, Macedonian and a few more. But the important thing is to always keep improving, it doesn't matter the method, because the end result is the same, to be fluent. Great content, from both of the guys. You guys actually inspire a lot of people, especially because they see it's possible, all you need is to put some work into it and not give up, because it can get frustrating sometimes.
@@Zach-rt9kg Definitely. Every second counts. Even if you are just passive listening to the language, for example, you are getting used to the sounds of that language and it's helping with your pronunciation.
@@Ryosuke1208 No. I play around with them a lot. First, I put the subtitles in English so I get the meaning, then in the language I'm leaning so I see how words are pronounced and written. Then I copy and past both subtitles on Excel, learn the words I don't know or at least most of them, then I watch it without subtitles. I end up watching that specific movie 3 times, so by the third time I already know what will happen and I have some idea of what's being said, even if I don't understand every word or even every sentence. But for me it works, it's good practice.
@@hammyshayaddy8330 I see, seems like a lot of work, I'm kinda lazy and, well, I mix it up a as well, I watch it without subs, sometimes with both subs and other times only the target language subs, but yeah it's working. But I will try to force myself to listening without subtitles because I felt that in english (the second language I adquired) relying on subtitles kind of hindered my listening comprehension because I always relied on them (In movies anyways, not on youtube videos)
Worthwhile and interesting interview! I have the biggest respect for both of your achievements. What I'd be curious about: Matt: Any plans to learn Chinese? Xiaomanyc: Any plans to learn Japanese? With the Kanji/Hanzi under your belt each of you would have a headstart. Keep it up, Tobi
I'm really impressed that he effectively used active recall cards not just to cram for a test but as a long term strategy. I would think it would be so painful. I would have actually double checked - wait you were doing 800 active recall cards a day?!? are you sure?
20:08 I’d love to see him back that up by giving a professional presentation or discussing a paper with a native speaker. (I mean that in a an impressed manner!)
In terms of click bait he is pretty much king but at the same time you can tell through his videos that he's a nice dude, so it's kinda hard to hate his success lol
@@NO1xANIMExFAN Not hating, just stating the facts. A lot of his videos are an anti-climax, they don't live up to the hype of the title, it's very rare that someone is SHOCKED because a white guy is speaking Mandarin.
That many new cards would be a waste of time for me because I just wouldn’t retain anything due to volume. I retired using cards years ago because it takes the fun out of it, I find I pick up words better naturally by coming across them multiple times in context.
Sounds almost like he was using english phrases as like "key phrases" to spark recall of Japanese phrases. I can see that being useful for survival-type of language like how do you order food, say you're going to the bathroom, etc.
im with xiaoma on the reading aspect of learning Chinese. i would rather have the social communication aspect of Chinese to be much better than the reading/writing of it. everyone has different goals.
21:55 - pfft, everyone knows Taoism is cooler than Confucianism, we have Bruce Lee! On a serious note though, I have read some texts from confucius and also zhuangzi mengzi etc, I feel it is really hard, the amount of cultural and contextual knowledge you need to correctly interpret the stories I feel is so much, even if I understand the text often I misunderstand the moral of the story
Khazumoto, he called his method all Japanese all the time. Basically what it says, extreme immersion. When you make the language your life. Google AJATT
Title should be "A white person blows away mattvsjapan with his perfect knowledge of language learning" or "Matvsjapan almost quit japanese cuz how good this guy with language proficency"
@@omegaalex601 we get it but the joke is just so overused and the titles from xiaoma's channel sounds so corny that to make a joke using them is just a bad take.
Was wondering whether Matt was talking about Xiaoma when he mentioned 'fake polyglots' who get a ton of views. I assume by this meetup that Matt respects his level of Mandarin at least.
Xiaoma might have significantly more subscribers but Matt is a language learner of significantly higher calibre. Personally, this interview comes across more as a meeting of 2 youtubers, that also just happen to be language learners.
Xiaoma is more on Entertainment, im learning Japanese for more than a year now but a enjoyed watching Xiaoma's videos. Just watching people's reaction 😂 But for sure Matt is hard core learner
First world is really amazing, look that to finance an entire course of chinese for free for high school students, that is something that I wont see in my own country like until 2100
when Xaoma learns one new Anki words = one new card, does that mean 3 card reviews ? Reading, listening and translating english => Chinese? So, e.g., 50 new words = 150 new anki cards (1 word = 3 reviews).
@@viniciusmotta8169 what “need”? Haha. Nobody said anything about “need”. drugs had always been a component of learning for lots of people. You think students are going to their college courses without some kind of stimulant in their system? Probably never.
@@megazoned3973 I've never taken a single pill of a stimulant to go through uni, masters and PhD. Same thing for learning languages. It doesn't mean that there aren't people who take them for learning a language. I'm saying that it's not necessary to taking adderall or any other type of stimulant to learn a language.
You know you've overdone Anki when Matt says that your Anki routine is insane.
It's always an Easter Egg to find another language channel creator in the comments section of another language channel creator. And this time there is a language channel creator interviewing another language channel creator and another language channel creator commenting on the language channel creators' video. Man this is getting deep.
@@FOXMAN09 you have mastered the skill known as english, my friend
@@samihaaraisa Yeah lol I had to read that twice to comprehend it
I keep forgetting that Matt isn't even at a 100k subs lol. Let's keep spreading immersion learning!
I didnt even realize this till i saw this comment
Goddamn when I found his channel he only had 5K subs or something and I was so intrigued! It was inevitable he will grow fast as his method simply works!
IMMERSION LEARNING IS THE FUTURE!
speaks to how good his method is, he has a literal cult following already lol
@@alegalcrepe8162 annnnnd it's here
I'm expecting matt to fight japan when he reaches 100k
;)
The first weeb war
LMFAO WHAT
🤣🤣
@虞鹏举 yeah, I only noticed this recently I wonder why he hasn’t gotten a lot of subs especially considering how critically acclaimed he is.
So nice to just listen to an interview on RUclips without any fancy editing or graphics, very honest, chilled, and sobering content.
Agreed
English is my target language so I'm glad that I can watch this kind of great content without any feeling of shame XD
That's cheating! :^)
For real
Matt and Xiaoma are the definition of “different roads lead to Rome”. Love seeing you guys collab, keep up the good work!
Out of curiosity, are you a native English speaker? I just ask because I’ve always (and only ever) heard this phrase said as, “All roads lead to Rome.” Idk if it’s a regional difference or what
@@littlefishbigmountain True that, I just thought "different roads" makes more sense in this context because not all language learning methods lead to fluency lol.
@@lofty8037
You’re totally right there! lol. I was just curious
I was thinking the same thing, even thought Matt would mention that how their basically opposite methods ended up resulting in fluency
Thank you for non-edited version. Natural conversations are always great.
Xiaoma learned Chinese just like he learned his others languages, obviously. In 24 hours.
And he spoke it perfect from the first minute of learning
Refold is helping me a lot on my journey to Spanish fluency! Thank you Matt! 💪
Great video! Whilst the "foreigner speaks perfect..." videos are entertaining, it's refreshing to hear about the actual amount of effort and work that it took to get there
Lol yes finally he doesn't over simplify the process of learning a language. It always interested me waaaaaaaay more to know the brutal process (known more often as "reality") than the "Hey guys just book some italki lessons and you'll be fluent in 30 days"
This was so wholesome!!!! Love it Matt
I love this niche content
I absolutely love the way your channel is growing. Your channel was already a huge motivation before but now it's even stronger !
What a great set of videos recently, i like xiaoma (but Matt vs japan more)
The vibes are always great recently
Quite an interesting interview. Thank you for the video.
Awesome interview! As someone deep in their Swedish journey (>1 year studying) I really empathized with a lot of what you guys talked about.
I'm excited about this channel! I've been slowly getting into Mandarin Chinese and your videos have really encouraged me! Like you, I learned enough English to get around in 3 months just by watching a ridiculous amount of tv shows over the summer after moving to the US from Brazil. I'm excited that I intuitively have been following the process you outlined on your interview with Joseph so my motivation has reached a new level! There's hope!! Thanks so much for all the content and best of luck on all your endeavors! 😊
Love when you do interviews!! Really motivating!
Great vid, production, execution, and your interviewing skills have gone up 10-fold. I mean, refold.
Matt, I just LOVE the content you put out there. You will reach the 1 million mark that you deserve! Keep up the AMAZING work!
II will be studying abroad in Japan next fall, I am going to try to immerse as much as possible. This was very inspirational, thank you
How's it going? Did you go to Japan? If yes how was the experience?
where is the update lmao
It's good listen you both. I am learning Japanese and Chinese at the same time. I follow you (Xiaoma and Matt) and the advices that you give us are amazing! Thank you!
Can't wait for the part 2
Keep the good work Matt, u r really doing a great job
and i'll never forget that u r the one who made my life easier, if it wans't for this channel
i wouldn't be able to understand this interview :O
The crossover we all wanted! Seems the key is that language learning takes time and immersion.
11:18 マジで！？xiaoma says blasting and at the same moment a truck driver blasts his horn
Lmfaooooo
Fantastic conversation. Your content is highly underrated Matt, I’m about to start my journey to serious immersion for Japanese and you’ve been a big inspiration. Keep up the great work, looking forward to your future videos.
Another glorious video. Thanks for all the wondrous content.
I have the feeling this is gonna blow up
Very nice! Consistency is very important in a successful language learning journey.
Super excited for next week
Another great video!!!
Very interesting. Thanks for these videos!
Why does this video not have way more views
Thanks for uploading this, after watching your last video with Xiaoma I was wondering about this
XiaomaNYC is the reason why I started to learn Japanese 3 months ago. He's a great dude.
How's it going now? Been 10 months
@@SourishBanik It's been good so far. I had to step back a little bit in order to study kanji more since as I progress with my studies it's a little difficult to read even though I know the words.
@@SaiyanJin85 it's a very difficult language. You are very brave to have chosen to learn it. Good luck!
@@SourishBanik Thank you very much. I try to be reasonable with my expectations. For example for my use case is more important to be able to read and listen than speaking 100% fluently. So I stir towards to that direction. English is not my native language either which for me is also more important to read and listen to english content. Setting expectations is vital I believe.
So close to 100k, love to see ya grow man
Incredible video ! Keep going man!
Matt, you should totally interview Jared Turner and John Pasden, or be a guest on the You Can Learn Chinese Podcast. Your methods probably overlap a little, differ a little, but you all definitely have thought really deeply about language learning as a process, so it could be a great conversation.
cant wait for part 2 :)
It just goes to show that we all have different ways of learning. Me for example, I use movies and subtitles a lot. I've managed to do Spanish, French, Italian, Serbian, Macedonian and a few more. But the important thing is to always keep improving, it doesn't matter the method, because the end result is the same, to be fluent. Great content, from both of the guys. You guys actually inspire a lot of people, especially because they see it's possible, all you need is to put some work into it and not give up, because it can get frustrating sometimes.
Exactly, find what works, and stick to it, every minute you don’t practice will take one more minute to get fluent
@@Zach-rt9kg Definitely. Every second counts. Even if you are just passive listening to the language, for example, you are getting used to the sounds of that language and it's helping with your pronunciation.
Do you find that subtitles slows your progress in your hearing comprehension when you're on an advanced level?
@@Ryosuke1208 No. I play around with them a lot. First, I put the subtitles in English so I get the meaning, then in the language I'm leaning so I see how words are pronounced and written. Then I copy and past both subtitles on Excel, learn the words I don't know or at least most of them, then I watch it without subtitles. I end up watching that specific movie 3 times, so by the third time I already know what will happen and I have some idea of what's being said, even if I don't understand every word or even every sentence. But for me it works, it's good practice.
@@hammyshayaddy8330 I see, seems like a lot of work, I'm kinda lazy and, well, I mix it up a as well, I watch it without subs, sometimes with both subs and other times only the target language subs, but yeah it's working. But I will try to force myself to listening without subtitles because I felt that in english (the second language I adquired) relying on subtitles kind of hindered my listening comprehension because I always relied on them (In movies anyways, not on youtube videos)
Worthwhile and interesting interview! I have the biggest respect for both of your achievements. What I'd be curious about: Matt: Any plans to learn Chinese? Xiaomanyc: Any plans to learn Japanese? With the Kanji/Hanzi under your belt each of you would have a headstart. Keep it up, Tobi
Damn, am I early. Good video, I enjoy Xiaomanyc's content. Thank you for the video!
great video
I'm really impressed that he effectively used active recall cards not just to cram for a test but as a long term strategy. I would think it would be so painful. I would have actually double checked - wait you were doing 800 active recall cards a day?!? are you sure?
20:08 I’d love to see him back that up by giving a professional presentation or discussing a paper with a native speaker. (I mean that in a an impressed manner!)
Imagine matt vs japan if he bulked up homie you got potential
Very interesting interview
Such an awesome collab!
Road to 100k subs matt!
This summer break I'm gonna try studying Japanese a lot using your Refold
I hope there's a collab with Japanese From Zero soon!
XiaomaNYC is the KING of click bait videos titles and thumbnails, that's a huge part of his successful youtube channel.
In terms of click bait he is pretty much king but at the same time you can tell through his videos that he's a nice dude, so it's kinda hard to hate his success lol
@@NO1xANIMExFAN Not hating, just stating the facts. A lot of his videos are an anti-climax, they don't live up to the hype of the title, it's very rare that someone is SHOCKED because a white guy is speaking Mandarin.
you rockk!!
I like this content
My two worlds colliding. Weird but totally awesome. 加油小马！！！
Love ur content!
How many hours?-
All of them.
Okay, time to step up my game
i wanna learn chinese i just don’t know where to start :(
200 news cards a day??? 10 is already my limit for not getting burned out
Yeah
But i guess Its a skilk that can be learned
Doubt he really meant 200 new cards, more like reviews...
@@kougamishinya6566 pretty sure he meant 200 new cards
@@kougamishinya6566 he gave emphasis to "new cards", 200 reviews is not very impressive
That many new cards would be a waste of time for me because I just wouldn’t retain anything due to volume. I retired using cards years ago because it takes the fun out of it, I find I pick up words better naturally by coming across them multiple times in context.
Sounds almost like he was using english phrases as like "key phrases" to spark recall of Japanese phrases. I can see that being useful for survival-type of language like how do you order food, say you're going to the bathroom, etc.
It depends. As you evolve in your language, the phrases you want to say evolve with you, and you can enter them into Anki if you wish.
@@oodjee Oh yeah, I totally agree with that. That's my experience so far.
im with xiaoma on the reading aspect of learning Chinese. i would rather have the social communication aspect of Chinese to be much better than the reading/writing of it. everyone has different goals.
Matt you're so cute!😁😁😁😁
"Evaan-jeh-lion" shirt hahahaha.
could you talk about motivation for Japanese learning?
Love anime
I just noticed. You look like an American Ono Kensho and that's pretty cool.
The design of Refold is so beautiful, may I ask you what software/them you used?
Its interesting to see how anyone who takes Anki seriously ends up having an existential crisis lol
21:55 - pfft, everyone knows Taoism is cooler than Confucianism, we have Bruce Lee! On a serious note though, I have read some texts from confucius and also zhuangzi mengzi etc, I feel it is really hard, the amount of cultural and contextual knowledge you need to correctly interpret the stories I feel is so much, even if I understand the text often I misunderstand the moral of the story
Hi!
How many cards did he say he had at the end? 10K? I didn't quite catch it. Anyone know how many Matt got up to?
yeah he said 10k. that seems to be a fairly common number for people to drop anki at
It works people how much more do you need! Knowing the information does nothing , make sure you actually do it! Now get back to immersion !
never heard of Xiaoma.. is he famous?
love these videos, got me motivated, time to step up my game and stop fucking around, uberdanger style
Where is the "all of them" moment?
Who's the guy that became fluent in Japanese in 18 months? And whats the headphone method?
Khazumoto, he called his method all Japanese all the time. Basically what it says, extreme immersion. When you make the language your life. Google AJATT
I came here because I saw it on Xiaoma
+1 from Xiaomanyc
Title should be "A white person blows away mattvsjapan with his perfect knowledge of language learning" or "Matvsjapan almost quit japanese cuz how good this guy with language proficency"
(No)
This sounds corny af
I don't think anyone gets the reference
@@jonathanfranco8547 I thought it became sort of a meme in language community. Surprised people above didnt get it
@@omegaalex601 we get it but the joke is just so overused and the titles from xiaoma's channel sounds so corny that to make a joke using them is just a bad take.
Was wondering whether Matt was talking about Xiaoma when he mentioned 'fake polyglots' who get a ton of views. I assume by this meetup that Matt respects his level of Mandarin at least.
Xiaoma might have significantly more subscribers but Matt is a language learner of significantly higher calibre. Personally, this interview comes across more as a meeting of 2 youtubers, that also just happen to be language learners.
Xiaoma is more on Entertainment, im learning Japanese for more than a year now but a enjoyed watching Xiaoma's videos. Just watching people's reaction 😂
But for sure Matt is hard core learner
A great performer vs a great composer kind of thing.
I dunno, they seem pretty equally fluent in their respective languages.
here from xiaoma~
Why is doing long hours of Anki is bad?
If I'm studying 5 hours a day, how much Anki should I do? Thanks!
Well anki is a tool for retaining information that you got in your immersion, you should spend way less time in anki and more time immersing
Take a shot every time Xiaoma says “Like”☠️
how did he come up with 300 new things he wanted to say every day and made 300 cards a day?
Matt! You deserve better. Sub now, people.
200 new cards a day to reach 10k would be less than 2 months...
i think its safe to say, that was the odd day.
These guys are such an inspiration to me. Also, not trying to e rude, but does Xiaoma have tourretes or something?
I need to your help Matt that you can help me by making subtitles or captions available in every video you make and this does not have
And thank you
Xiama my guy...why you blink so hard...lol...but yeah he is a good guy that motivates the language community
Stress. I can relate.
How many hours of Anki?
All of them. All the hours.
First world is really amazing, look that to finance an entire course of chinese for free for high school students, that is something that I wont see in my own country like until 2100
who is chow mah
You should add subtitles :/
觉得小马最擅长的是吹牛，他根本算不上“接近母语者一样的水平”。美味口音很重，而且人家一本中文书也没读过 😂
还是走matt那条路好
when Xaoma learns one new Anki words = one new card, does that mean 3 card reviews ? Reading, listening and translating english => Chinese? So, e.g., 50 new words = 150 new anki cards (1 word = 3 reviews).
Why did you turn poor ヨミちゃん off?!
introvert vs. extrovert
Honest question: how much does adderall play into learning languages for both of you?
🤣🤣🤣
There is no need to take adderall to learn a language, lmao.
@@viniciusmotta8169 what “need”? Haha. Nobody said anything about “need”. drugs had always been a component of learning for lots of people. You think students are going to their college courses without some kind of stimulant in their system? Probably never.
@@megazoned3973 I've never taken a single pill of a stimulant to go through uni, masters and PhD. Same thing for learning languages.
It doesn't mean that there aren't people who take them for learning a language. I'm saying that it's not necessary to taking adderall or any other type of stimulant to learn a language.
@@viniciusmotta8169 no tobacco? No caffeine?
2 linguistic geniuses in one room. What a treat!
@7:09 yh I think most people here do. haha