I'm loving this! Here's how I set it up: ruclips.net/video/g53jpdWoXVk/видео.html Here is the YAML code if you're into that kind of thing smarthomesolver.com/reviews/room-presence-temperature-automation/
I have a new HA setup but cannot generate a developer API from the Ecobee site anymore. It seems that Ecobee stopped supporting 3rd party integrations using the API. Any suggestions?
Very interesting, never thought about it being this complicated with wireless sensors. Our new build home is completely wired with KNX and presence detection is not that expensive with a lot of different sensors on the market. And here in Germany we have underfloor heating so the temperature is the same most of the time because it’s very slow to changes. Even if I’m not using any of the sensors or products from your videos - I love watching them and getting inspired for my own home and to build the automations with KNX 😃
When I have people over to the house, and we are handing out it gets warm. It would be cool to setup an automation that would detect more than X number of Bluetooth devices in an area and set Party Mode in the thermostat.
For when you change the temp to preset: warm or preset: cool you could change the lights above the cabinets to change to a warmer or cooler white depending on the temp to let people know that the system has engaged in a change
The Tesla Custom Integration allows you to read the navigation target and ETA from your Tesla. You can set it up so that when you navigate home and are less than X minutes away, that it will start cooling your home. I have it setup that way myself. Works great!
I do the same but with the icloud3 integration, if I’m an hour away from my house or home for an hour it goes into vacation mode and sets the temp higher, and then if I’m 59 mins or less away, it starts cooling down to get back to the normal temperature
Another great video Reed. I have the Ecobee thermostat and love it. I do use the room sensors to keep the temp just right. Will go over to Reed's Smart Home to see how you setup yours to see if I can improve my setup. I did not think to use the presence sensors and I think I will make that my next project.
I love the fact that somewhere in the UK Paul Hibbert is watching this video & making his head explode...Home assistant! Home assistant! Home assistant!!!!!
Very cool idea. My situation is different. I would like my AC to turn on if my Powerwall is full and there is at least 3 extra kwh going to grid. And this is only during the days as I have a free nights electric plan.
Great video! I haven't touched my thermostat in years! Okay, sort of a lie, but I've based my ac automations in when my alarm is set to away mode or not (since I have to set the alarm manually). And to handle not coming home to a warm house, I have a Smartthings tag I long press that precools the house when I'm coming home. We only have one thermostat, so it makes it a bit easier than your case.
I use geofencing on my thermostats. So it will turn the temperature up/down when I am 3 miles from my house. It would be awesome if I could do the room to room detection. I have Sensi Touch 2 thermostats. Have you ever used them?
I always wonder the net cost of turning the AC off for extended periods because wouldn't everything in the house warm up too (furniture, rugs, walls, etc), and therefore take a lot more energy to cool everything back down? I notice when my AC is off for long periods and I turn it back on, it runs for longer and more frequent cycles for several hours. Anyway, I could be totally misguided, just something I've been wondering about lately.
I wish I could automate the Ecobee more but there's always someone home so we have to set it and forget it. Go up a degree at night is really the only change.
Mega like! I dont have air conditioning so for me is unusefoul, but is super interesting what you can do, and I like so much that's a Channel with description and one for instructions. Really handy. Thanx for your work
My desire for certain temperatures depends on what I've been doing. After exercise I want moving air and cool temps. After sitting in a blind all day not moving, I want warm and still air. Short of granting my thermostat and fans access to my real time thoughts there's no way to achieve this besides turning a dial...
I have a challenge for you. Make LED strips/bulbs flash when you get a text or phone call. Like back in the day when a banner used to run across the TV that your landline was ringing. Maybe like one even when you’re ringer is on, but you’re dead asleep, but it’s an emergency.
Hi Reed, Great video! My only question is how did you get Ecobee to work with Home Assistant? I am getting ready to toss my Ecobee thermostats as they will not give up the API key. I want a stat that works with Home Assistant and is a company that has actual support not like Ecobee. Can you tell I hate them!!!!!
is the effort worth it? Seems like diminishing returns, that being said we love our ecobee with additional sensors and have it connected to our shades, fans and security system which further automates things. We do utilize the home, away and sleep modes
@@SmartHomeSolver have you calculated the savings compared to the cost & time invested into the additional automations beyond what the ecobee can do out of the box?
@@BrandonDoyleMN Ew, I understand budgeting but you don't need a cost-benefit analysis from a purely financial perspective for everything. Don't run your life like a corporation, they are notoriously bad at helping people be happy. Consider the fun of setting up the automation and the cool factor as well. The happiness having more comfortable temperatures all the time is very valuable and does not need a dollar amount tied to it.
My point was just that there are diminishing returns by making it more complex. The benefit of a smart thermostat isn’t that it keeps the home cool, it’s that it saves money when you don’t need it running.
This is great but your windows will need to be closed all the time and you wont bring fresh air into the house. Ive installed a vornado transom AE in an uostairs window to expel heat and bring in cool air at night. Its controlled with alexa. I think it might work well if you have cool nights.
Hey Reed! I've been casually watching your channel for several years now. Thanks for all you do! I really enjoy the videos. I am interested in what Home Assistant is. I have all Apple products (Apple TV, AirPods, iPhone, iPad, Mac etc) in the home. Is there a reason I would want to use Home Assistant or is it more of an Android thing? I have a Starling Home Hub for the Nest products in my smart home...that said, I wonder if I'm missing out on things by making everything live in Apple Home? Can I use Apple Home and Home Assistant? Is that silly? Just looking for your thoughts. Anyways, thanks again for all you do! Have a great day. - Ben
Those sensors might be what I'm finally looking for with presence detection. Love it can tie into your Apple Watch. Just need someone to do some cases for me, no friends with 3D printers. Plus there's the whole setting it all up haha. Now, can this be done with only one thermostat?
OK, Time to setup H.A. and move everything over ... Now to brush of my YAML Skills or the lack of them :) Redd You are a truly a crafty .... When I grow up I want to be like you :)
Can you share some more info on how you get the phone to ask you if you would like to cool your house down when heading home? What app are you using for that?
I find this really confusing. We have ours set to 24c and only touch it once a year to switch from cool to heat. Wouldn't it be incredibly inefficient to heat or cool one section of a house constantly throughout the day? It takes an hour and a half just to move our main floor up or down by 2 degrees
You sleep when its 82 degrees room temp? :O What temps do you have if youre not using any thermostat? Also on 4:44 it shows cold temp on the right and something else on the left-what is it? How energy efficient is it to have the AC run 24/7 ?
Do you have a set of temperature sensors also deployed in various rooms? Other than people movement, I am also trying to keep some rooms to maintain the right temperature. Been trying to find a sensor for temperature only that integrates well without breaking the bank.
The ecobee smart sensor doesn't work as advertised. It's never properly sensed when I'm in a room or not. Then again I only have one air conditioner so there is no way to zone the up stairs and down stairs of my house properly. The only proper way to do things would be smart vents that open and close.
On my Amazon wish list: A house call from Reed, where he arrives with a bag full of tricks and spends two hours setting all this up in my house - hey, presto, instant thermostat bliss!
I have the Ecobee thermostat, and it already has a follow me occupancy feature.. While I sort of agree with your note about motion sensors not detecting still people that is ONE of the reasons ecobee is fast to change to new movement but slow to revert back to no movement. Over all your heating and cooling system can only move the temp X degrees so fast, even slower for AC / Heatpumps. Changing the temp rapidly by more than 1 or 2 degrees will be in efficient and may not get you to comfort very fast. I actually STOPPED trying to make the system react to occupancy and just use comfortable averages by sets of rooms by time of day.. Focus on common rooms averaged during the day and ONLY bedrooms at night. I also change the schedule in the winter as the furnace has different performance characteristics and in a multi floor home heat rising from the furnace and cool air settling in the bottom from AC really has a different dynamic. Over all the addition of bluetooth seems to massively over complicate this setup. If anything I would go from motion to mmWave and just reduce the reaction time slightly for vacancy and be done with it so pets, guests and children all are comfortable and not treat the parents as special altra tracked targets for this automation.
I'm still working on setting up my ecobee. I signed up for eco+ and the AC turns off at 80°, but my upstairs is 87° and horrible. Connected the ecobee to my Alexa, but it doesn't use the Alexa temp from upstairs. I might have to disable the eco+.
You are missing an automation that fixes how my wife needs it two degrees cooler than I can stand. Please tell us when you get THAT automation working. .
Does anyone have a link to the Tuya presence sensors that were mentioned? The Aqara ones are awesome, but I don't really need that kevel of fine-tuning for my application.
Just finished the vid, thank you Reed for always demystifying the Rube Goldberg machine that is home automation at times and always doing it with style 🫡
Reed can’t believe you’re settled with deductive reasoning to track your kids. So imprecise! JK. 😂 So in all seriousness, do you know if there are any new mm wave sensor devices for SmartThings or Hubitat? I’m using both hubs, but haven’t found anything yet.
Chocolate on the shelf will bloom if you let it get too hot in vacay mode (78 degrees will cause damage). Also, why not just use a proximity locator or when you use maps to head home as the trigger to start cooling?
turning on ac for 24 hours is kinda bad idea cause you may get addicted to your ac. Its okay if you are wishing but Electricity power bill is a problem
Ecobee needs to give customers option to return to previous UI, this new one is AWFUL and requires several more clicks and taps to do ANYTHING… it’s like they don’t even understand the foundation of UI design to ensure easiest usability and interaction
Just wait until your wife gets a bit older, and can either be sweating, to death, or, freezing to death, both at the EXACT same temperature.. Woman-o-pause lol.
Cool video.. I am not over the top smart home like you are, in fact if I had to get rid of one smart home device it would be the Ecobee. We just basically set it and forget it so being smart or dumb it doesn't matter too much. Any adjustments I just use my phone to lower or raise temps when away or coming home. One thing that scares me with your setup (being in shit-cago burbs) would be one of these criminals would hack in and know exactly what room you're in and where to start shooting..lol
Yeah that would be way too hot! That’s the kitchen and since no one is out there late at night, the air doesn’t run for that zone. It stays cold where everyone is sleeping though.
@@SmartHomeSolver yeah, after I watched more of your video, it started to make sense. It seems like the base temperature is an upper limit and adjusts with presence. Good idea. I always love the practicality of your videos.
I'm loving this! Here's how I set it up: ruclips.net/video/g53jpdWoXVk/видео.html
Here is the YAML code if you're into that kind of thing smarthomesolver.com/reviews/room-presence-temperature-automation/
I have a new HA setup but cannot generate a developer API from the Ecobee site anymore. It seems that Ecobee stopped supporting 3rd party integrations using the API. Any suggestions?
Very interesting, never thought about it being this complicated with wireless sensors. Our new build home is completely wired with KNX and presence detection is not that expensive with a lot of different sensors on the market. And here in Germany we have underfloor heating so the temperature is the same most of the time because it’s very slow to changes. Even if I’m not using any of the sensors or products from your videos - I love watching them and getting inspired for my own home and to build the automations with KNX 😃
When I have people over to the house, and we are handing out it gets warm. It would be cool to setup an automation that would detect more than X number of Bluetooth devices in an area and set Party Mode in the thermostat.
That would be sweet!
For when you change the temp to preset: warm or preset: cool you could change the lights above the cabinets to change to a warmer or cooler white depending on the temp to let people know that the system has engaged in a change
Reed is great and his content is priceless. Love all these HA guys. Keep up the righteously awesome work!!!!
I appreciate it! Thanks!
HA has a proximity integration I hope to use someday for similar logic - automatic vacation mode and seeing that I'm coming home.
You could just define a bigger zone around your home as well (E.g, 10km) and if you enter that zone then also set house to whatever)
The Tesla Custom Integration allows you to read the navigation target and ETA from your Tesla. You can set it up so that when you navigate home and are less than X minutes away, that it will start cooling your home. I have it setup that way myself. Works great!
Oh that’s a really good tip! I’m going to set that up. Thanks!
I do the same but with the icloud3 integration, if I’m an hour away from my house or home for an hour it goes into vacation mode and sets the temp higher, and then if I’m 59 mins or less away, it starts cooling down to get back to the normal temperature
I setup a work zone in HA. When I leave the zone it switches the thermostat to home mode (45 minutes ETA)
This was amazing lots of thoughtful scenes and automations great job guys
Another great video Reed. I have the Ecobee thermostat and love it. I do use the room sensors to keep the temp just right. Will go over to Reed's Smart Home to see how you setup yours to see if I can improve my setup. I did not think to use the presence sensors and I think I will make that my next project.
The extensive Luna presence makes your videos so much better. Two paws up from me
I love the fact that somewhere in the UK Paul Hibbert is watching this video & making his head explode...Home assistant! Home assistant! Home assistant!!!!!
Your videos are just so entertaining and I have to watch them even though thermostats aren't a smart device anyone uses in Australia.
Thanks so much! Means a lot to hear that!
I would appreciate having the privacy implications of various solutions discussed as part of each video.
Very cool idea. My situation is different. I would like my AC to turn on if my Powerwall is full and there is at least 3 extra kwh going to grid. And this is only during the days as I have a free nights electric plan.
Great video! I haven't touched my thermostat in years! Okay, sort of a lie, but I've based my ac automations in when my alarm is set to away mode or not (since I have to set the alarm manually). And to handle not coming home to a warm house, I have a Smartthings tag I long press that precools the house when I'm coming home. We only have one thermostat, so it makes it a bit easier than your case.
I use geofencing on my thermostats. So it will turn the temperature up/down when I am 3 miles from my house. It would be awesome if I could do the room to room detection. I have Sensi Touch 2 thermostats. Have you ever used them?
I always wonder the net cost of turning the AC off for extended periods because wouldn't everything in the house warm up too (furniture, rugs, walls, etc), and therefore take a lot more energy to cool everything back down? I notice when my AC is off for long periods and I turn it back on, it runs for longer and more frequent cycles for several hours. Anyway, I could be totally misguided, just something I've been wondering about lately.
Could you setup a geofence around your house to turn on the AC when you get inside that fence?
I wish I could automate the Ecobee more but there's always someone home so we have to set it and forget it. Go up a degree at night is really the only change.
Mega like! I dont have air conditioning so for me is unusefoul, but is super interesting what you can do, and I like so much that's a Channel with description and one for instructions. Really handy. Thanx for your work
My desire for certain temperatures depends on what I've been doing. After exercise I want moving air and cool temps. After sitting in a blind all day not moving, I want warm and still air. Short of granting my thermostat and fans access to my real time thoughts there's no way to achieve this besides turning a dial...
I have a challenge for you. Make LED strips/bulbs flash when you get a text or phone call. Like back in the day when a banner used to run across the TV that your landline was ringing. Maybe like one even when you’re ringer is on, but you’re dead asleep, but it’s an emergency.
Hi Reed, Great video! My only question is how did you get Ecobee to work with Home Assistant? I am getting ready to toss my Ecobee thermostats as they will not give up the API key. I want a stat that works with Home Assistant and is a company that has actual support not like Ecobee. Can you tell I hate them!!!!!
is the effort worth it? Seems like diminishing returns, that being said we love our ecobee with additional sensors and have it connected to our shades, fans and security system which further automates things. We do utilize the home, away and sleep modes
It’s worth it. Especially when it’s hot here in Arizona.
@@SmartHomeSolver have you calculated the savings compared to the cost & time invested into the additional automations beyond what the ecobee can do out of the box?
@@BrandonDoyleMN Ew, I understand budgeting but you don't need a cost-benefit analysis from a purely financial perspective for everything. Don't run your life like a corporation, they are notoriously bad at helping people be happy. Consider the fun of setting up the automation and the cool factor as well. The happiness having more comfortable temperatures all the time is very valuable and does not need a dollar amount tied to it.
Haha I agree I don’t want to run my life like a corporation. I have so much fun setting up the automations that it’s worth it.
My point was just that there are diminishing returns by making it more complex. The benefit of a smart thermostat isn’t that it keeps the home cool, it’s that it saves money when you don’t need it running.
How did you get it to track the apple watch? do you have more than 1 in the house?
This is great but your windows will need to be closed all the time and you wont bring fresh air into the house. Ive installed a vornado transom AE in an uostairs window to expel heat and bring in cool air at night. Its controlled with alexa. I think it might work well if you have cool nights.
Interesting!! This system even can take care of our pets😃
Awesome video! I wish those present sensors worked with Apple HomeKit!
Where can I find the bluetooth presence detector you discussed for $5?
Hey Reed! I've been casually watching your channel for several years now. Thanks for all you do! I really enjoy the videos. I am interested in what Home Assistant is. I have all Apple products (Apple TV, AirPods, iPhone, iPad, Mac etc) in the home. Is there a reason I would want to use Home Assistant or is it more of an Android thing? I have a Starling Home Hub for the Nest products in my smart home...that said, I wonder if I'm missing out on things by making everything live in Apple Home? Can I use Apple Home and Home Assistant? Is that silly? Just looking for your thoughts. Anyways, thanks again for all you do! Have a great day. - Ben
What about using a similar technique to have your music follow you from room to room?
Everything you do is both insanely cool and seems insanely exhausting hahaha
Haha thanks and it’s a lot of fun to set up, more of a hobby. Plus this was spread out over a couple of weeks of tinkering a few minutes every day.
Those sensors might be what I'm finally looking for with presence detection. Love it can tie into your Apple Watch. Just need someone to do some cases for me, no friends with 3D printers. Plus there's the whole setting it all up haha. Now, can this be done with only one thermostat?
Thanks Reed.
OK, Time to setup H.A. and move everything over ... Now to brush of my YAML Skills or the lack of them :) Redd You are a truly a crafty .... When I grow up I want to be like you :)
The best way to install Home Assistant is it Home assistant with Synology NAS or any other method, please help me on your PC
I remember you saying you have a time of use rate plan, how does this setup work with precool preheat function of the ecobee when no one is home?
in Texas is over 100°F, so I have to use the AC more Frequently
Yes it’s getting hot in Arizona too but we don’t have that humidity. I’ve lived in Texas for a few years and it can get brutal over there.
Can you share some more info on how you get the phone to ask you if you would like to cool your house down when heading home? What app are you using for that?
I find this really confusing. We have ours set to 24c and only touch it once a year to switch from cool to heat. Wouldn't it be incredibly inefficient to heat or cool one section of a house constantly throughout the day? It takes an hour and a half just to move our main floor up or down by 2 degrees
You sleep when its 82 degrees room temp? :O
What temps do you have if youre not using any thermostat?
Also on 4:44 it shows cold temp on the right and something else on the left-what is it?
How energy efficient is it to have the AC run 24/7 ?
Do you have a set of temperature sensors also deployed in various rooms? Other than people movement, I am also trying to keep some rooms to maintain the right temperature. Been trying to find a sensor for temperature only that integrates well without breaking the bank.
The ecobee smart sensor doesn't work as advertised. It's never properly sensed when I'm in a room or not. Then again I only have one air conditioner so there is no way to zone the up stairs and down stairs of my house properly. The only proper way to do things would be smart vents that open and close.
On my Amazon wish list: A house call from Reed, where he arrives with a bag full of tricks and spends two hours setting all this up in my house - hey, presto, instant thermostat bliss!
I have the Ecobee thermostat, and it already has a follow me occupancy feature.. While I sort of agree with your note about motion sensors not detecting still people that is ONE of the reasons ecobee is fast to change to new movement but slow to revert back to no movement.
Over all your heating and cooling system can only move the temp X degrees so fast, even slower for AC / Heatpumps. Changing the temp rapidly by more than 1 or 2 degrees will be in efficient and may not get you to comfort very fast.
I actually STOPPED trying to make the system react to occupancy and just use comfortable averages by sets of rooms by time of day.. Focus on common rooms averaged during the day and ONLY bedrooms at night.
I also change the schedule in the winter as the furnace has different performance characteristics and in a multi floor home heat rising from the furnace and cool air settling in the bottom from AC really has a different dynamic.
Over all the addition of bluetooth seems to massively over complicate this setup. If anything I would go from motion to mmWave and just reduce the reaction time slightly for vacancy and be done with it so pets, guests and children all are comfortable and not treat the parents as special altra tracked targets for this automation.
Can you set up the location on your phone so that when you are coming back home it automatically turns on the AC?
Can you review the Zolo Mojo speaker
I'm still working on setting up my ecobee. I signed up for eco+ and the AC turns off at 80°, but my upstairs is 87° and horrible. Connected the ecobee to my Alexa, but it doesn't use the Alexa temp from upstairs. I might have to disable the eco+.
Any video on how you set up your thermostat ?
There are some links in the description to those videos.
I love my ecobee pro I have 3 in my house each ecobee powers 2 ac units each
Is there a way to have an A/C NOT turn on if I have an outside door open, if I have door sensors?
Hi great video, one question though, what happens when your all in the same room?
Thanks! It goes to the coldest setting for whoever is in the room. But you could set it up the opposite.
@@SmartHomeSolver I see you have yourself setup for preferential treatment 😋
Are you using HomeAsistant?
You are missing an automation that fixes how my wife needs it two degrees cooler than I can stand. Please tell us when you get THAT automation working.
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You didn’t list were to get the room detection device ( the box one)?……….
4:39 what is that app? Looks really cool
Ecobee app. Yeah they have some cool stuff in there. Check out some of my previous thermostat videos on it.
Does anyone have a link to the Tuya presence sensors that were mentioned? The Aqara ones are awesome, but I don't really need that kevel of fine-tuning for my application.
Just finished the vid, thank you Reed for always demystifying the Rube Goldberg machine that is home automation at times and always doing it with style 🫡
How do you automate manual interactions to be ignored in a HA automation?
Don't you have smart TRV's in America?
aaaah great, tracking real live to the meter. Hope this doesnt go online :p
Anything over 68 is hell 😂
Not having your AC on all the time saves a ton of money. It's a Win Win for everyone 😄
Put a bigger tracker on Luna 😂
Reed can’t believe you’re settled with deductive reasoning to track your kids. So imprecise! JK. 😂
So in all seriousness, do you know if there are any new mm wave sensor devices for SmartThings or Hubitat? I’m using both hubs, but haven’t found anything yet.
What about small kids....
Chocolate on the shelf will bloom if you let it get too hot in vacay mode (78 degrees will cause damage). Also, why not just use a proximity locator or when you use maps to head home as the trigger to start cooling?
3:37 Wedlock movie from 1991?
The home I brought had one of these when I moved it. Got rid of that shit real quick
It’s not really automated when you leave the house when you need to accept a prompt every time you leave the house
turning on ac for 24 hours is kinda bad idea cause you may get addicted to your ac. Its okay if you are wishing but Electricity power bill is a problem
Now, how do I get my wife to stop opening the windows and throwing off the temperature?
If you want to save money on AC get you're static pressure checked by a HVAC tech.
you must be burning at 70 degrees, so you must get hot very often.
What happens when you're all in the same room? Who wins?
Ecobee needs to give customers option to return to previous UI, this new one is AWFUL and requires several more clicks and taps to do ANYTHING… it’s like they don’t even understand the foundation of UI design to ensure easiest usability and interaction
Having the option to choose would be nice.
Just wait until your wife gets a bit older, and can either be sweating, to death, or, freezing to death, both at the EXACT same temperature.. Woman-o-pause lol.
Where the video for Android users?
This works for android phones.
Too much work. Just get up,change the temp, and tell your family to deal with it.
Does he work for big brother 🤔 😅
Cool video.. I am not over the top smart home like you are, in fact if I had to get rid of one smart home device it would be the Ecobee. We just basically set it and forget it so being smart or dumb it doesn't matter too much. Any adjustments I just use my phone to lower or raise temps when away or coming home. One thing that scares me with your setup (being in shit-cago burbs) would be one of these criminals would hack in and know exactly what room you're in and where to start shooting..lol
Haha that would be some crazy Jason Bourne type assassin. Yeah if you don’t use the thermostat much these would be over the top for sure.
You sleep with the cooling set to 82 degrees?! No fucking way my wife would allow that, or me for that matter
Yeah that would be way too hot! That’s the kitchen and since no one is out there late at night, the air doesn’t run for that zone. It stays cold where everyone is sleeping though.
@@SmartHomeSolver yeah, after I watched more of your video, it started to make sense. It seems like the base temperature is an upper limit and adjusts with presence. Good idea. I always love the practicality of your videos.
Way too complicated 😂
Haha yeah it’s intense but once it’s all set up it works amazing. A lot of what was set up will be used for different automations as well.
NOT PERFECT! haha, you must have your temperature adjusted based on the humidity... so the FEELS LIKE tempature is always what you want
Ohhh good call. In Arizona the humidity is so low that it’s not a big factor but yes that would be something to consider outside of the desert.
You lost me.
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*nose*
I really dislike the videos of this guy, it's too much copy'ing of stuff.
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