1991 Porsche 928 GT Review - Forget The 911, This Is The Classic Porsche To Buy.
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- Опубликовано: 11 янв 2019
- Today I drive this gorgeous classic Porsche 928 GT. Currently on sale at William Francis, driven with the assistance of the owner.
For details on this car please see their website: www.william-francis.com/
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This is actually so cool. My dad actually owned this exact 928 when they lived in the UK. He found this video on youtube by accident and called me immediately and said he found his 928. He recognised the number plate. Always had a special place in my heart because i was very young being driven around in this car and i actually remember some glimpses of it. Just thought id share that
Cool
Very, very cool!
@cillius7774 Hi! I'm the current owner, out of interest when did your dad have the car?
@@dutoitm1 It was 2000 - 2004
@@cilius7774 ah amazing. Your dad sold it to mine! We've had it since. If I remember correctly you guys returned to SA. Won't mention names for privacy but I just about remember your dad! Very cool coincidence, thanks for commenting!
The 928 GTS was the car I had on my bedroom wall.
All my friends had Countach and Testarossa, but to me, the 928 was absolutely beautiful.
Tambien
The 928 is a legitimate continent conqueror with timeless style and Porsche provenance.
A far better long distance machine than the contemporary 911, or Ferrari
@@JayEmmOnCars is it better than the Ferrari 456? Thinking about one or the other as a replacement for my Maserati QP
@@yeahno.... good question. It's a better sports car, but the Ferrari does have a much better engine and feels more luxurious
I love a 928, but I'm not sure I'd call it's styling timeless. I consider it a snapshot of the best thing on offer in the 80's. =)
456 is a thing of beauty - the gearstick alone with its click clack sound is worth it.
This is not a car but a masterpiece on wheels
The 928, an attempt to replace the 911. Porsche had a loyal following, the 911 was basically the only model and it had its own traditional character, rear engine air cooled etc. The 928 however was absolutely different, V8, water cooled, front engine, pedals didn't come through the floor, it had a dashboard and it handled.. in short it was like selling a neon Bible. In the 70s most sports cars were owned by real men and compromise was an accepted part of the experience, sports cars shouldn't be easy. The 928 was well built, reliable, didn't try to kill you, it was basically 25 years ahead of its time. Cracking car and my favourite of the brand
Neon Bible is a fantastic use of words.
*doffs cap*
@@1968spikey I won't pretend that was a description I came up with myself, I remember reading it in a car magazine back in the 90s, but a brilliant way to describe the 928s dilemma at the time.
If it was sold in today's market preferences, it'd sell like hot cakes, people will buy anything with a Porsche badge if it's easy to live with
If you don't have a 928, buy one! Straight-pipe it, if you are allowed to. If you are not allowed to straight pipe it, still do it! Then rework the suspension and screw the coil-overs down. Fit some cool wheels on it and drive the hell out of it. I personally think it is much better than an old 911. Servicing the car isn't that difficult as you can find a lot of videos online. Buy it as it is still cheap. Mine is red too! Best wishes from Taiwan with a lot of mountain roads and tunnels here!
Drive the hell out of it!! Couldn't agree more. Best wishes!
Taiwan has amazing roads. Went there in 2015 for 6 weeks. Toroko gorge is amazing. I'm sure you have a blast! I am part of a few car groups on facebook and the Taiwanese guys have some nice builds!
I’ve always loved the 928, marveled at the Stuttgart spaceship as a 7 year old boy in the 80s and coveted the thing when I passed my test in 1990. The greatest arse of any car ever, a thing of beauty.
I’ve always had a special place in my heart for the 928 and the 944. Supremely unique in their design and driving experience.
Have you driven any? How does it compare to, say a modern day transaxle if there's one or at least a rwd?
eusdeenius While it drives as a modern car would, say in comparison to a 1960s era vehicle, it does not feel in any way modern. There is a loose feeling to it. Or, rather, a more willing feel of wanting to do things a bit crazier than modern vehicles. You’re less in control and more in control at the same time.
@@RyanDeClue very true comment ,especially in automatic transmission from my impression of driving one with low kms back in the early 2000s.
I have one of each. They are each very different and special. It is a pleasure to drive them.
I have a 1990 S2. With it's 3.0 litre engine and low end grunt it's a wonderful commuting car. It handles on rails and is extremely comfortable. Just great cars.
Manual Porsche 928?! ACTUAL dream car!
Same.
One of the most significant cars of the late 1970's and won European Car of the year award, a remarkably affordable classic, the 928 is indeed an awesome car. I recall that people didn't buy it because it was just too expensive at the time. Thanks for showing us this example.
It was a stand-out for a brief period, but definitely not a significant car. Significant car (designs) make an impression that informs subsequent car (designs). No company was more than fleetingly interested in this design - and you could say the same about the overall prestige car buying market.
your video was crazy good
Roger Bailey : high maint costs is why it has relatively low purchase prices...
Had the cutaway poster on my bedroom wall of the 928 when they came out in 1978. Absolutely loved the styling, still do. It was so avantgarde at the time, especially when my father had a Mk.2 Escort as a company car lol.
I always loved the 928, and the later models still look cooler than many more recent 911s IMHO.
928’s are an often misunderstood but absolutely brilliant car! Great video :)
Returning the wheel colour to silver will help the aesthetics greatly
I had the unforgettable thrill of driving a 928GT4 on a track with the great Vic Elford in the passenger seat advising me. It was an incredible experience and I learned a lot. Afterward, he showed me how it could be done in a 911 Carrera 4. I was a rear drive Porsche owner and seeing how he dealt with tight corners in the Carrera 4 was so foreign to me. No trail braking whatsoever, just hard braking in a straight line then unbelievable power throughout the turn. I could’ve done that all day.
I am a die hard 911 fan and I will go out to admit that the 928 is actually better looking , intact, in its days this car was probably the most advanced cars ever made .
Never did get the passion for the jumped up beetle that is the 911. This on the other hand -exquisite!
The Porsche 928... The Finest Porsche Ever Made!
Had a 1983 S . I lament ever getting rid of it. This made me want to get a project one . I agree, favorite Porsche !
I love all Porsches, and the 911 is fantastic, but I always loved the front engine Porsches more than most fans of the brand. The 944 and 928 take different approaches to the same goal: Effortlessly devouring the miles of a highway journey north of 100mph. They handle beautifully as well, but speed is what they were made for, and what they do best. Put your right foot down and relax! You'll be there before you realize it.
944 are horrible to drive like a bumper car I had one never again !!
The 928 has always been my dream car since I was 8 or 9 years old. I'm in my 40's now. I hope to own one some day. Thanks.
My dad is selling a full red 928 s4 for £25k or 31k dollars if you’re still interested
I loved my 928 and should never have sold it. and my 911 was ok but for me the 928 is best
Wayne value the driving experience rather than speed
Fιfτψ-Oηε true but the top model 928 could coast at 160 mph comfortably
I genuinely love the 928
One of the most beautiful engines ever made.
I love the 928, I tried one 15 years ago. It was not well kept but amazing anyway.
I've owned my 928 for 11 years so far and I love it.
Great video 👍👍
Very nice. Just bought my 1982 928 in red.
I own a 1986 Porsche 928s 32 valve 5speed with ABS, LSD, short shifter, Autothority chip, and Magnaflow exhaust. 180k miles and still going strong.
"Are you the U-Boat commander?" - Risky Business. Wanted one of these since that movie.
My friend owned a second-hand S4 .
A car more beautiful outside than inside, I loved driving behind it , and watch it.
I found the 928 , was like Porsche tried to build a Car for US Customers Market.
Other Friend of mine owned a second-hand 928S ,Manual ! That Car drove like a Rocket (corner handling) compared to the S4 Automatic...
I love the 928, very unique in may ways, but also requires unique car mechanics !
Thing with these cars is that the inside ,specially plastic parts got worn out by sun and age.
ThX for the nice Review, Greetings !
What a treat! I owned an '89 928S4 years back, and it was wonderfully unique. There were some idiosyncracies, but overall it was a wonderful car. Just like "most" of my past cars, I sometimes miss it dearly!
I've had both the 928 and 911 and the 928 was a superior car in every way.
928 GT manual, most excellent, love the interiors of Porsche at this time, great video.
928 is the best looking car ever built, my humble opinion. Gorgeous.
I owned a 1989 928 S4 with the 5.0 liter 315 hp engine. It was a marvelous car for the 5 years I owned it. I was king of the highway - never waited for anybody! Could go 160 mph with no problem - except for the cops...
I can't believe this car was designed and released to the public in freaking 1977.
Shit, you had all those boxy Fords and Opels around. Even the exotics like the Ferraris and Lambos were mostly sharp wedges. This thing looks super sleek in comparison .
It's the reason the 928 has aged so well.
My theory as to why the 928 never reached the popularity of the 911 is that the 911 had racing pedigree
Claro, el 928 fue un concepto distinto, pero no menos bueno, al contrario, mejor mas completo.
It's nice to see Porsche transaxles getting some appreciation.
I still have all my early eighties Porsche brochures. My favorites are the 928 ones. They’re like books, not the pamphlet brochures they hand out now. I all have my early eighties Matchbox 928. It’s still my favorite Porsche.
I used to think these were the ugly stepbrothers of the 911 and laughed at the egg shape and over the top eighties styling.
I recently saw an early eighties gold 928 in the parking garage at work and laughed at the fool who owned it.
Then I did some research because I was bored and wanted the story of what I thought was a Porsche for beginners.
I now love the car and would buy one at the first opportunity.
Thanks for sharing Jay!
A good video thanks. I have a 1987 S4 and a 1986.5 S2, both of which are epic cars, both have been really reliable ( so far ) and I’ve had them for 12 years. The only big expense in service was water pump and belt but parts are cheap from Roger at 928srus in Texas, he’s a legend and standard servicing on these puppies costs way less than you think. I left both of mine sitting for over 10!years before resurrecting them carefully and they have been problem free. I might be just lucky but I got told in 1988 by some idiot who owned one in London that I could never afford one and would never have one. Well I’ve got two now and they’re epic so thanks for setting me a goal !!! Prices are sky rocketing now so I’m well happy !!!
I grew up lusting after one of these, even had a gold matchbox model of it as a child . It's up for connoisseur money and rightly so for the condition and manual status , but it really needs putting back to OEM silver wheels for me though, I know how fastidious the porsche owners club of GT Britain is about originality .
Your unbrided Enthusiasm is truely refreshing to watch!! Im SAVING your video; JUST BECAISE IT'S THAT GOOD!!
I'm on my second 928.. bought my first for $6k for a clean garaged '82, $8k for my current car, an '88 S4. Nice review... but most reviews fail to mention the 4 wheel steering feature: in a hard corner, the rear wheels point out enough to make the car feel like it is riding on rails.. very tame, and any slide is with all 4 wheels together.. it does not spin out. To experience the 4 wheel steering on a tight canyon road required the cajones to go that fast! It is a heavy car but still does well in tight turns... I used to love going fast into turns and watching the car trying to keep up drop way back when it can't take the heat..
As a owner of a 78 euro 928, I really appreciate this video, as I stumbled upon it. Every day I look at my car , I love it more and more. BTW it's a mocha brown exterior with black and dark brown pasha interior ........loving the 70's!!
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So glad I moved in 2013 and bought a nice lower mile 1988 Venetian Blue 928S4. Have done all major services top to bottom myself. It has been completely reliable and very comfortable cruiser. I couldn't pay cash to buy this car today.
Back in the day, Porsche works team drivers could choose anything they wanted from the range as a company car. Story goes they all picked 928s. As a kid, and not so much of a kid, various cars have been the top of my lust list. I think the 928 has more weeks at number one, with the possible exception of the Ferrari 599. I just love the whole big, front-engined sporty GT thing.
I had a red s4 89 , was used for a shopping trolley in the week, and I drove it on the track once a month. No problems at all easy to service. You need to find the rite people for wheel alignment, but loved that car, never should have sold it .
ALL Porsche 928 GT cars where manual 5-speed only cars which produced 330HP. The speaker shown on this example are not original rather aftermarket Blaupunkt speakers and same goes for the radio. The mirrors are from the later GTS and same goes for the wheels.
My favourite car as a little kid. Now I own an Alfa Brera and, watching this video, I'm seeing the link in regards to the styling.
The 928 used to be my favourite car at the time. It also explains why I love so much the style of the Mercedes AMG GT they must have taken some clues for the back of the car from this Porsche . Unmistakably similar .
It's classic GT proportions - long bonnet, cab rearward. Much like E-Type Jag, Merc 300SL etc
All 928 fans have made this connection. Porsche, sadly, let MB build the new 928.
always been a fact this car is the most well balanced porsche made
Loved the 928. Even the looks!
GT literally means Grand Tourismo or Grand Touring as in a great touring vehicle which is why it was designed to be a luxurious, comfortable yet sporty car. It’s powerful and sporty and comfortable for long cruises on the roadways.
I am fortunate to have a 928 GT, with an original 56k klms. The manual gearbox transforms the car. She will, and has, sat at 200 km with impeccable poise for continental travel. Supersonic velvet.
928 IMHO is the most gorgeous car shape ever made.
Its perfect.
When I was a kid I thought Porsche only made 911 cars. My Mates father got a 928 and I thought it was a space ship.
Quite ahead of it's time the new Porsches have a similar console setup.
The love for the 928 is high. Child hood car 🤙
928’s are great cars 👍
Best sounding v8. I loved driving the 928
I love this guy the way he demonstrate the car keep up the good work
Yes Yes Yes !
Love the 944 and 928 so happy to see this :D
the 928s was the beginning of the better to drive cars, the 944 sucked but the 944s (s4) series was a truly excellent car
@@andrewcoates1 "sucked" is harsh but yeah they took a few years to mature ;) I think it is important to compare the early cars against competitors of their time and not against the versions 10 years later.
Congratulations JayEmm on a well delivered video.Your talking is great,but your videos would be even better if you had more footage of the car driving from the outside,instead of a camera attached to the wing panel, or over the rear bumper.Many car tester’s fall foul of this flaw, and even motorcycle testers.It’s much more exciting to see the car driving around from outside,swinging into bends,swooping out of bends and accelerating hard along a straight road while getting up to some high speeds.
Always had a thing for 911’s,liked 944 turbos but fell in love with 928’s when they came out. I had an opportunity to buy a fairly cheap (auto) one sometime in the late 90’s but wimped out.
Nice review & vid ! 😎
The 928 GT only came with a manual transmission. The 928 S4 was available with both but most were automatic transmission cars. The last version of the 928 the GTS was also available with both automatic and manual transmissions. A low mileage manual transmission 928 GTS is probably the most desirable version with some selling for over $100,000 in today’s market.
Look at the link below for two 928 GTS's with low mileage in Quebec-one for almost $200,000 Canadian!
www.auto123.com/en/used-cars/all-inventories/quebec/all-cities/all-years/porsche/928/all-bodytypes/all-sellers/
Tasty man box 👍. I wish my Macan Turbo had the same door seals 😕
I’ve owned 3 928’s - 2 GT’s and an S4. They are superb and terribly underrated. The five speed manual gave the 928 the reputation of being a lot like a “Thug in a Suit” One of the best cars I’ve ever had the pleasure of owning.
Love the 928, did you have any reliability issues or big repair bills?
@@Lander76 Hi, No I can honestly say that after all the years that I had owned 928’s I never had any problems whatsoever. Although It’d be fair to say, that each of the 928‘s that I had, were always well cared for. 😊
It's the only Porsche that I've ever wanted and now their prices are going up.
Only porsche i have wanted are the Carrera 6 and the 910. But i wouldn't say no to a 928
What is a Carrera 6?
Great review. Looking forward to the 130i review. That car has ALWAYS intrigued me
928's are also way cheaper then 911's. As someone who prefers GT like cars I would say the 928 is a better car overall.
@Jay Barker 928s4 clean condition w 50k miles goes around 45k usd and will only go up more
Great video on a misunderstood and underrated classic. I own an ‘86 928S and love it, but the 911 is “The Porsche” due to its racing heritage. That is the car most people think of when they hear the name Porsche (or possibly the 917 if they’re a race fan). Like I said, I love my 928 and in some ways it’s better than a same gen 911, but think about how great the Panamera currently is. But 25 years from now how will a Panamera compare to the 911? There are too many crappy 928s out there that are still running to allow for higher collectibility and value. It’s a testimony to how well they were built that they can be so mechanically neglected but still survive. Once only nice ones are left, the price will probably go up substantially.
After owning four 928s I would definitely recommend it.
Also on my fourth 928. That dodgy clutch master cylinder needs fixing though (really high clutch pedal).
It's the same as the last manual 928 I drove
@@JayEmmOnCars I just checked mine and the clutch pedal is about the same reasonable height as the brake pedal. I just noticed the rubber on those two pedals reads '928'!
This is a brilliant review!!!
probably the most iconic 928 moment was Tom Cruise driving a 928 into the dam
Looking at one of these next week, so thanks Jay for the review.
Classic Porsche’s are never forgotten... they just get too expensive to be feasible lol.
Very true, checking the link in the description this one is for sale at £39,995 and that's with 108k miles!... :-O
@@logan86123 Because it is a GT. One of the rarest versions. All were manual, which brings a 20% premium.
It's nice that the 928 is getting some love now. I recall when the C4 vette came out is really overshadowed this car and it never recovered. People are more appreciative of the other attributes other than speed. I'm happy with my old 911 and before the prices get too crazy on the other classics pick up a 944 or a 928. But be handy with the wrenches or have some bucks to sort them out. The cool cars are all old now and in need of a curator.
My dad has a 1988 s4 manual. To this day said it had the best driving position of any car. Black black extended leather red piping rear wheel steer. All tho he always thought his manual s2 was quicker
Great video, great channel. I really enjoy your content, keep up the good vids :)
Thanks Jimbo!
Wow manual as well mega rare. Love these
If you ever get your hands on a 944 16v or a 944 Turbo, they are some of the best daily driver Porsche's you can own. As a 911 owner (997s) and prior 944 16v owner, the 944 is a great car.
Agreed, I've had an S2 for the last 26 years.
My favourite Porsche of all time. I'd have it over any 911, and if someone gave me a 911 I'd sell it and buy a 928.
This is a great review!
really nice job... I definitely need to get one... thanks!
For what it's worth, all 928 GTs had manual transmissions. If you find a GT with an automatic, you're being lied to. The S4 was available with a manual or automatic for a few years, but went to automatic-only after the GT came out.
For the most part, you're right though. About 70-80% of all 928s had automatic transmissions.
The early cars with manual transmissions are a real treat, as are these GTs!
Cheers @JayEmm I’m now looking on eBay for one 😂
Love them, great vid
Lovely, but what is the fascination with black wheels? #bringbacksilver
Good vid, as always JM.
Back when Porsche built with no concern of price, really high standards. Times have changed
Yes, Cletus, GT doesn't mean sports car, it means gran tourismo, which is a totally different animal.
Your obsession with tailpipes continues unchecked.
" Really ", really is your favourite word for 2019.
The 928 GT is one of the best cars ever made.
The wrong 928 could bankrupt an oil sheik, they are so costly to restore. But it would be worth every riyal.
If memory serves me correctly ( which is highly unlikely ) 928s weren't popular because they were very thirsty for their level of performance. The fact they were superb cars, and, on the road, could leave their, so-called, rivals in their dust, was ignored.
Another of your great videos, and very fuel efficient, to boot.
"The wrong 928 could bankrupt an oil sheik, they are so costly to restore. " should be the disclaimer on all 928 vids
He restaurado mi 928 del 89 Manual, he gastado dinero eso y mas y no me arrepiento en absoluto, Motor entero, embrague, suspensiones, un suma y sigue de detalles hasta el final, no arrepiento es una verdadera joya.!!@@turkeywildman3871
That's a beautiful spec!
love my 928 S4 :P, great video mate
Thankyou
What an exhaust!
Hi, from a Porsche fan in Norway, have 928S, 924T,944T a 911 and a Cayenne S Hybrid for the moment, just a little info, all GT`s were manuel gear;-) same set up as the CS but more luxury, but still lighter than the S4;-) but great video and GREAT car
I'm of that generation of drivers and I can tell you for sure it wasn't popular because of the rounded "eggy" styling.
It was the first car to feature the new curvy style body and it was just too much, too soon, especially after the angular and meaty-looking 944.
It was expensive too...VERY expensive. A fine car now to buy though.
Thanks for posting Jay.
Agreed, amazing car!
J’ai la chance de posséder une 928gt spéciale : la 928 de Carlos SAINZ senior
Modèle 91 intérieur gts couleur améthyste
C’est tout simplement ma Porsche préféré et pourtant j’ai aussi une 944 turbo cabriolet et une 997.1.5 turbo.
Mais quand je roule avec ma 928 tout le monde me fait un signe de la main, ce son du v8, cette ligne sublime etc
Je découvre votre vidéo aujourd’hui et merci de votre ferveur pour ce modèle qui le mérite réellement
Good job 👍
Now if I could find one in decent shape that someone wasn't asking the price of a Hellcat for, The Steering is super heavy, the gas peddle is like pressing on a brick...yet I love them...
This generation is on my list of ‘the fifteen cars I could afford ten-fifteen years ago but did not buy and I deeply regret’.
Great review
That's funny! I met Charlie on Wednesday, there was a 996 4S there that made me think "i wonder if that's JayEmm's"? The 928 was there, i had a little look around it, absolutely mint, great to see it on your channel and hear you know William Francis/Charlie .. he's got my car soon for some work, a manual 911 with a LSD and PCCB's ;)
That sounds like a nice spec 911 Matt - what generation?
JayEmm on Cars A 997.2. A very early, 08 plate, 3.6 C2 with a great drivers spec. Factory SSK, Carbon bits, PSE, Adaptive Sport Seats, Chrono, no sunroof ... in Carrera White too :)
That's a great car. Let me know if ever you want it on RUclips :)
JayEmm on Cars For sure! It needs a few bits sorting here and there, but you’re welcome once it’s sorted 👍🏼👍🏼
Cool, you can mail me direct on talk@jayemm.com - you must be fairly local
Nice vid, nice car. I have black Cup IIs on my '86.5, for what it's worth. FYI all 928 GT models are manual (doesn't make it not rare of course). Finally...that clutch pedal looked really odd to me...mine doesn't sit high like that at all. I asked on Rennlist and someone commented that it's a classic symptom of master cylinder seal failure. So, something the owner may want to take a look at...