And worth a second comment, thanks for NOT using a goofy "OMG shocked facial expression" picture thumbnail for the video. You and Loopop might be the last 2 decent reviewers who haven't caved in to the trend. Seriously, it is much appreciated...
Haha… I think it’s probably highly detrimental to the channel but I Just can’t bring myself to do it! Honesty it feels so cheap. Maybe I’ll give it a go as a scientific test… my face would probably put people off anyway… a face for radio as my mother used to say 😂
@@StarskyCarr Well, pleeeeeease hold out as long as you can! I gave Tom over at Synthanatomy some ribbing for doing it, and he fully admitted he didn't like it, but it was just part of the synthfluencer routine nowadays. The goofier and faker the facial expression, the less likely I am to click the video. I must be an outlier...
Awesome review, thank you! Just ordered a Hades, it’s replacing a Minitaur. Can’t wait! It might be more narrow but what it does is sick and exactly what I’m looking for. It’ll be next to an Erica Bassline, Roland MC 707 & Tr-6s. For techno, cybertrance and electronica should be perfect
Thanks, it’s nice when folks notice the effort. These take ages, but it’s nice to make something useful and hopefully entertaining. Really great to read comments like this. Cheers.
Another great demo Starsky. Really like the fact you don't use external effects. I'm sick to death of things drowning in Valhalla (which makes a fart in a snowstorm sound good) I'm wrestling with this particular dilemma of Hades or Erebus at the moment...or Poly D...
These babies just don’t need them. They sound better without. But yeah. I try to show stuff as is, and throw in the odd effect here and there. The only issue with doing that is a lot of folks think k make things sound sh!t!! I think more prefer the Valhalla experience, but as you say it’ll make anything sound good!
Great overview! Bought a couple of the new Erebuses (Erebi?) to stick in my Waldorf KB37. Though I had a bunch of Dreadbox modules in it previously, the overhead and cable clutter is now nicely reduced. It's probably the closest I'll get to a Dreadbox keyboard.
No need for a soldering iron with the kit versions of those.. just screwing stuff together.. took me about 30 minutes for the Erebus kit. Understandable since their previous kits like the Dysmetria and so on did need soldering
It a tough one. I think on balance I'd keep the 2 voice one if pushed (the blue one - but to me there Erebus and Hades and I can never remember which is which... think its the Erebus!)
I like how you're holding the S∩BƎɹƎ. See what I did there? Add the Typhon, Nymphes, West Pest and East Beast, you're going to have a ton of sound for such little real estate. I love the sound of my Typhon, and it's fun to use live with those nicely sized knobs, rather than what other companies like Roland use on their boutiques. For the price of one good synth, you could have all these and have a much wider sonic pallet which for some, makes much better sense. Doesn't matter what you have though, just make some music!!!
I was taken by the Erebus at first, (I never heard of this brand until today and that Erebus demo) but now I hear what hades can do and now I cannot decide!!
Polyphonic Erebus (for a normal price) would be interesting! Other than that I don't hear anything that is "much cooler than Neutron". The biggest advantage is that Erebus can be powered via USB (as I've understood). Sometimes it's helpful.
@@StarskyCarr I think that Neutron is pretty special between many synths. Maybe wave-morphing isn't something really rare now. But it's filter is really great! The weak part is the overdrive but it can be ommited through patchbay.
@@HOLLASOUNDS I’d say Phatty but in a smaller form factor. I’d buy the erebus in a blink of an eye if it had midi CC. Which my slim phatty does have. So nice to control it with an elektron sequencer or similar.
Both great little physical sythersizors however for music production I think software is always going to be quicker far easier to modulate and easy to edit. I like to have modulation in My sythersizor and to do that with these I'd have to send it midi and then record the audio of Me manually modulating and getting it perfect no mistakes or I'd to do it over again and for a 4 to 7 minute song it might take forever. Physical sythersizors are fun but I dont use them in My music production other then being sampled.
Software is so much handier, I agree. I went totally in the box about 10 years ago and sold almost everything I had. Somehow though it didn’t give me the same enjoyment. But definitely software can do anything you want.
@@StarskyCarr I had mostly been in the box for over 10 years but decided I wanted a decent vertion of a hardware Dawless and computerless setup. Novation MiniNova, Peak, and Behringer Monopoly, Reverb, looper, distortion, Flanger pedals and a little mixer, but as yet not actually been able to put it all together.
If you have Cubase you can set up the external synth so it works similar to a vst in the daw. The midi and audio routing is set up and ready to go as you create the track. Then the inspiration from playing with hw takes you to places sw won't. Good idea to own one or two hw as 100% ITB can make you bored and less productive.
Competent people will make everything sound impressive (not saying that they aren't). I'd need more than the two little synths and a couple of minutes in order to get those results. I'm imagining a "counter-review" of someone such as myself.. wouldn't make those little beasts sound nearly as enticing - believe that! For synths I usually always start with presets and tweak it from there. PS: I got a general understanding of ADSR from doing a little Drum and Riser-FM with the Ableton Stock (Operator), but there's a lot more to understand and utilize (again and again and again) until one can get those sounds as intuitively and fast as you are. Where my synth-capabilities fail me, I make up for it with post-synth-processing. What can I say? I'm lazy. I go with what I know..
@@StarskyCarr you know I probably should. And I do a lot of the things I should do. They are just so many things. Unfortunately plenty of the things I should do are currently more urgent 😅. And when I'm NOT doing what I should I often choose being entertained instead of enlightened. Let me remain unknowledgeable and in awe some more please - knowledge is not as comforting as ignorance (well, sometimes it is).
Starkey Carr is certainly an expert on sythersizors and thats his job and is very good at it hence the 45k subcount, He didn't come here as a Newbie so not to sure why your compering yourself to Him, prehaps if you make hundreds of videos and use Hundreds of different sythersizors over a span of over a decade then maby you might be as skilled as Starsky. I do know sythersizors have used them decades and can make them sound great but Starsky is still alot more knowledgeable on sythersizors then Me, and thats fine.
@@HOLLASOUNDS I think we have a communication issue here. I'm not all sad and comparing myself as if I would need to know nearly as much about using synths at all. If that is what you think I was doing, you are misinterpreting what I was trying to convey. I tried to convey that what you get out of such "simple synths" will be determined by your skill more than anything. I think when people hear skilled artists like Starsky use such gear, they get a distorted idea of what the gear can do for them. It's the skill that makes it look so easy. It is not easy for the regular chap. And he could absolutely do that with stock-plugins too (it wouldn't look so cool though). But I phrased that message in a subtler way - obviously it was too subtle. Once more: I was admiring his skill, while pointing out that the very same gear would not be nearly as impressive and thus useful in my hands. I thought that was a clever balance of being positive about the video, yet real to newbies who think spending 500 Bucks on a synth will make them sound like this.
And worth a second comment, thanks for NOT using a goofy "OMG shocked facial expression" picture thumbnail for the video. You and Loopop might be the last 2 decent reviewers who haven't caved in to the trend. Seriously, it is much appreciated...
Haha… I think it’s probably highly detrimental to the channel but I Just can’t bring myself to do it! Honesty it feels so cheap. Maybe I’ll give it a go as a scientific test… my face would probably put people off anyway… a face for radio as my mother used to say 😂
@@StarskyCarr Well, pleeeeeease hold out as long as you can! I gave Tom over at Synthanatomy some ribbing for doing it, and he fully admitted he didn't like it, but it was just part of the synthfluencer routine nowadays. The goofier and faker the facial expression, the less likely I am to click the video. I must be an outlier...
Could not agree more ! I'm absolutely sick of the sight of the youtube frontpage covered in shocked faces. 😱
Here here! It’s gotten so out of hand and overused. One was bad, now it’s damn near every video.
It’s absolutely insufferable… a modern RUclips plague
SC is the best synthtuber in history of Synthtubers! Awesome video as usual!
Lol
Yes :)
I’m taking that all day long!
The problem is your pocket. I buy all Synths he is testing
This video helped me pull the trigger on a used $300 Hades to go with my Erebus. Cheers!
So tempted by the Erebus… That echo sounds lovely! Great video, as always. Thank you!
Me too and I have no idea how to hook the mini nova and the circuit tracks that just arroved
Is it actually an “analog delay”, though?! It seems like a PT2399 … ?
You really make such fantastic Videos. Thank you for doing the good work!
Awesome review, thank you!
Just ordered a Hades, it’s replacing a Minitaur. Can’t wait! It might be more narrow but what it does is sick and exactly what I’m looking for. It’ll be next to an Erica Bassline, Roland MC 707 & Tr-6s. For techno, cybertrance and electronica should be perfect
Sounds fantastic and excellent demo! Earned yourself another subscriber. Thanks for this vid.
Great video. I was really confused about why they are sold as a duo, but the end was massive!!
Bloody amazing video mate. I was able to get a remanufactured Hades from their website for crazy cheap and it's an absolute weapon.
Thanks.. it’s so easy to get this to sound good. Enjoy.
Never got disappointed by Dreadbox!
Superb videos with very high production quality and very entertaining and informative.
Thanks, it’s nice when folks notice the effort. These take ages, but it’s nice to make something useful and hopefully entertaining. Really great to read comments like this. Cheers.
Whoa amazing demo!
Love Dreadbox so much. These are powerful, well-built little synths that each have tons of character at great prices
Only well built if they build it or your good at doing it yourself, I dont know where My solder iron is, not sure how I lost it.
@@HOLLASOUNDS whut
Love the sound of erebus
Very Mini Moog.
2:47 … the Erebus has an “analog delay” … Are you sure?! Seems more like another PT2399 delay, which is what the OG had as well I believe … ?
You’re probably right. Someone described it as a BBD - but as you say it could be a BBD style digital.. a bit like the Eventide Rose perhaps?
10:02 "If you have got a square-on". Fnaar, fnaar.
Thank you 🙏
Track no 4 needs to be its own song. I dig that so much
Another great demo Starsky. Really like the fact you don't use external effects. I'm sick to death of things drowning in Valhalla (which makes a fart in a snowstorm sound good)
I'm wrestling with this particular dilemma of Hades or Erebus at the moment...or Poly D...
These babies just don’t need them. They sound better without. But yeah. I try to show stuff as is, and throw in the odd effect here and there. The only issue with doing that is a lot of folks think k make things sound sh!t!! I think more prefer the Valhalla experience, but as you say it’ll make anything sound good!
Oh great... now I want a Hades to go with my Erebus and my Typhon 🤤
Such powerful little synths.
Great overview! Bought a couple of the new Erebuses (Erebi?) to stick in my Waldorf KB37. Though I had a bunch of Dreadbox modules in it previously, the overhead and cable clutter is now nicely reduced. It's probably the closest I'll get to a Dreadbox keyboard.
Saw the band slift playing the erebus live and it melted my brain.
The Erebus plays a part all over the Ummon Record. but the Dreadbox Nyx is stealing the show on the Illion Record. alot more atmospheric of a synth
great demo, gorgeous synths
Thanks… glad you liked it and yeah… gorgeous
No need for a soldering iron with the kit versions of those.. just screwing stuff together.. took me about 30 minutes for the Erebus kit. Understandable since their previous kits like the Dysmetria and so on did need soldering
Man I like the sound of all the dread box synths but not sure which one to get
It a tough one. I think on balance I'd keep the 2 voice one if pushed (the blue one - but to me there Erebus and Hades and I can never remember which is which... think its the Erebus!)
Hey did you make a Video to Westpest and Eastbeast, they Looks very simular to The Synth from Dreadbox
I did 😀
Dare I say I think I like the Hades filter better and I've always loved the Erebus filter.
It’s definitely got more bite.
Thanks for the great demos of these two fab synths...please don't make me spend even more money!!!
I fear that's too late now....😂
I think we’re in the same boat!
Man that was scary with the reverb - don't plug me in and have a fiddle
😬
Reminds me of a dream after a late night D&D session where I dreamed I was fighting a synthesizer monster.
I always find myself flying on their backs, saving the world from the mundane.. 😂 … then testing oscillators 🤦♂️
Morphed into Uncle Ernie there, fiddling about 😜
Will either of these play nice with a Korg monologue?
Your 'duo demo' reminds me of 'Map of the Problematique' by Muse :) anyway, great review! Looking at that Erebus now.
Cool, thanks!
The Hades was amazing
I like how you're holding the S∩BƎɹƎ.
See what I did there?
Add the Typhon, Nymphes, West Pest and East Beast, you're going to have a ton of sound for such little real estate.
I love the sound of my Typhon, and it's fun to use live with those nicely sized knobs, rather than what other companies like Roland use on their boutiques.
For the price of one good synth, you could have all these and have a much wider sonic pallet which for some, makes much better sense.
Doesn't matter what you have though, just make some music!!!
Very clever!
Always fancied an Erebus, but I think you just sold me a Hades. And an Erebus 😂
Oh now sorry about that. But you won’t be disappointed 😀
I was taken by the Erebus at first, (I never heard of this brand until today and that Erebus demo) but now I hear what hades can do and now I cannot decide!!
¡ROBOT ROCK!
which effects are used here? there have to some
Just the onboard delay. Nothing else.... cool isn't it!? :)
@@StarskyCarr that's pretty rad indeed!
Awesome from Dreadbox love their gear, but for the moment I’ll stick only with my MoPhO, Moog sub 25 and Se-02.
check out the Typhon, it has a wiked sequencer is is fun to use.
Thanks
Nice flex there. 😂
Polyphonic Erebus (for a normal price) would be interesting! Other than that I don't hear anything that is "much cooler than Neutron".
The biggest advantage is that Erebus can be powered via USB (as I've understood). Sometimes it's helpful.
Yeah it’s powered by usb. I’ve never played a neutron - odd as I’ve played almost everything from Behringer (and have ended up buying most of it!)
@@StarskyCarr I think that Neutron is pretty special between many synths. Maybe wave-morphing isn't something really rare now. But it's filter is really great! The weak part is the overdrive but it can be ommited through patchbay.
The Delay is PT2399...
And very nice it is too. Thanks for the info.
@@StarskyCarr you got it boss :]
Ahhh - I thought so … thanks for the info/correction!
Ehi, do They come with power supply? Is It easy to tune the osc?
They’re powered via USB - and I can’t remember but I think they come with a usb cable. And yeah dead easy to tune.
SC, is and/or how good is the output level eurorack compatible ?
They’re basically eurorack modules in their own little rack.
Erebus is very Mini Moog sounding.
Except it’s back to only two main oscillators, now?
@@HOLLASOUNDS I’d say Phatty but in a smaller form factor. I’d buy the erebus in a blink of an eye if it had midi CC. Which my slim phatty does have. So nice to control it with an elektron sequencer or similar.
@@o3rMeNs Definitely however keep in mind I have never actually heard a real Moog.
Fk moog your paying for the name seems like dreadbox is better!@@HOLLASOUNDS
@@teatime2595 I won't pay for a Moog, I'm fine with the Arturia emulation.
Both great little physical sythersizors however for music production I think software is always going to be quicker far easier to modulate and easy to edit. I like to have modulation in
My sythersizor and to do that with these I'd have to send it midi and then record the audio of Me manually modulating and getting it perfect no mistakes or I'd to do it over again and for a 4 to 7 minute song it might take forever. Physical sythersizors are fun but I dont use them in My music production other then being sampled.
Me too, but I also like "playing stuff" my music sounds so different if i play something in vs do every thing with automation lanes
Software is so much handier, I agree. I went totally in the box about 10 years ago and sold almost everything I had. Somehow though it didn’t give me the same enjoyment. But definitely software can do anything you want.
@@StarskyCarr I had mostly been in the box for over 10 years but decided I wanted a decent vertion of a hardware Dawless and computerless setup. Novation MiniNova, Peak, and Behringer Monopoly, Reverb, looper, distortion, Flanger pedals and a little mixer, but as yet not actually been able to put it all together.
Hardware is so much more fun, nothing like twisting knobs…
If you have Cubase you can set up the external synth so it works similar to a vst in the daw. The midi and audio routing is set up and ready to go as you create the track. Then the inspiration from playing with hw takes you to places sw won't. Good idea to own one or two hw as 100% ITB can make you bored and less productive.
Competent people will make everything sound impressive (not saying that they aren't). I'd need more than the two little synths and a couple of minutes in order to get those results. I'm imagining a "counter-review" of someone such as myself.. wouldn't make those little beasts sound nearly as enticing - believe that! For synths I usually always start with presets and tweak it from there.
PS: I got a general understanding of ADSR from doing a little Drum and Riser-FM with the Ableton Stock (Operator), but there's a lot more to understand and utilize (again and again and again) until one can get those sounds as intuitively and fast as you are. Where my synth-capabilities fail me, I make up for it with post-synth-processing. What can I say? I'm lazy. I go with what I know..
Haha … sounds like you need to watch my ‘how to..’ series… very good value …. Special price for you 😂
@@StarskyCarr you know I probably should. And I do a lot of the things I should do. They are just so many things. Unfortunately plenty of the things I should do are currently more urgent 😅. And when I'm NOT doing what I should I often choose being entertained instead of enlightened. Let me remain unknowledgeable and in awe some more please - knowledge is not as comforting as ignorance (well, sometimes it is).
Starkey Carr is certainly an expert on sythersizors and thats his job and is very good at it hence the 45k subcount, He didn't come here as a Newbie so not to sure why your compering yourself to Him, prehaps if you make hundreds of videos and use Hundreds of different sythersizors over a span of over a decade then maby you might be as skilled as Starsky. I do know sythersizors have used them decades and can make them sound great but Starsky is still alot more knowledgeable on sythersizors then Me, and thats fine.
@@HOLLASOUNDS I think we have a communication issue here. I'm not all sad and comparing myself as if I would need to know nearly as much about using synths at all. If that is what you think I was doing, you are misinterpreting what I was trying to convey. I tried to convey that what you get out of such "simple synths" will be determined by your skill more than anything. I think when people hear skilled artists like Starsky use such gear, they get a distorted idea of what the gear can do for them. It's the skill that makes it look so easy. It is not easy for the regular chap. And he could absolutely do that with stock-plugins too (it wouldn't look so cool though). But I phrased that message in a subtler way - obviously it was too subtle.
Once more: I was admiring his skill, while pointing out that the very same gear would not be nearly as impressive and thus useful in my hands. I thought that was a clever balance of being positive about the video, yet real to newbies who think spending 500 Bucks on a synth will make them sound like this.
@@StarskyCarr special price for you happy ending!!!
Hades is the king for me..
Gods are like cockroaches: there's always more of 'em.
depends on your definition of "god", really.
But can you turn a cockroach into a synth? …. Probably!
@@akagerhard”a placeholder for ignorance and fear.”
You mean human s?
That first jam is sooooo fat!