In spectator mode there is a 2-3 minute delay. This is a special tournament client Riot was using that has either no delay or 10-30 seconds tops. Combined with the fact that they didn't separate the teams from the auditorium nor did they even have the teams in a position that would have prevented any ability to see the monitors (like EVRY other non-Riot sponsored tourney does). It was a big logistical fail on Riot's part.
No there was no delay in this tourney. That's part of the problem. Every other non-Riot LoL tournament does the following: 1 - Seperates the teams from direct view of auditorium monitors by either putting them in a box (with a roof or awning and at an offset angle that doesn't give any line of sight to the monitors) 2 - Maintains the Spectator Mode 2 minute delay Riot did neither until the last matches for the champion, and even then they still didn't use the default spectator mode delay.
a coincidence every time the fans and teams responded right after something being casted? that's A LOT of coincidences. there are many types of microphones that have different fields of recording. the ones on those headsets only picks up the voice of player.
Ah, I see, that's true. Here's another few points though; Let's say the cast is 3 minutes delayed. The screen behind the teams is what the audience watches (the cast, 3 minutes delayed), hence the audience's reactions right after something is casted, and the footage of the players is synced with the cast (3 minute delay) so everything looks like it's synced up. Also, after the end of the game, TPA cheers before the nexus is even destroyed. That's just what I think though.
considering how much they play, i am sure they have all the rune pages, all the runes, all the champions (all of the above bought with ip won in games), and probably enough skins (for their favorite champions and such), though i don't any of them really invested that much rp to buy all the skins
u do understand at events that u can barely see the teams when ur live and you see the delayed gameplay just like everyone else including the announcers at live events the delay is like 30 secs last time i checked and the reaction cams are moved back of whatever time they are at to reflect it on the big screen it really isnt that hard and video tech can do it.....
if there was a delay why would the teams react to things they did in-game that were just announced by the casters? i'm pretty sure Riot makes the teams use the same noise-cancelling headsets for everyone. the headsets cancel out anything that's not coming from the game or their teams (crowd, announcers, etc).
he didn't know if he was exactly seen or not, although TPA got vision of him through the ward at red. Madlife only moved from the bush, because he thought TPA was just checking the bush, but didn't know he was being chased, which is why he actually moved back towards tpa when he walked by the 2nd brush
I actually think he's right. They have microphones on their headsets that could easily pick up what was said from the casters, and it could've been a coincidence of the team reactions. I'm not sure though.
During i believe it was the quarter finals, one of the Azubu Frost players saw the other teams mini map on one of the arena's displays and AF changed their game plan because of it
TPA lost most of it's members in Season 3. No Toyz and that's already a big problem. TPA needs to recruit Toyz back. Season 3 match is so horrible, Finals are just like Diamond players playing against Silver. TPA completely had a plan and destroyed Azubu. Plus Azubu cheated in one of their games, which is kinda funny.
A lot of the teams looked at the screens behind them at various points during games. I noticed it happened in virtually every game where there was a pause. Not making excuses for AF nor any of the others who cheated in this manner. Frankly, Riot was pretty thoughtless setting up the area. Hell, even something as simple as an awning and keeping the spectator delay would have prevented these issues. They need to isolate teams from the main auditorium in the future.
both teams have both of this attributes but man look at the previous 3 games!! The individual skills of the TPA players is srsly higher than AZF players. It was crazy how AZF were dominated in the normal lane phase
uhh... that doesn't explain why the teams celebrate plays at the same time they were just announced by the casters. did you even read my whole comment?
they looked at the screen for the audiende behind them at the beginning to see if the enemie team is goin to invade. that's how they picked up firstblood against TSM
If i am not wrong AF is currently fined for cheating for Game 1, Semi Finals between the game with them and TSM. What basically happened was that Woong was caught cheating, looking back at the game screen and by doing so he gained benefits for his team avoiding a top gank on Shy.
Seen them stream? They have most of the stuff. Almost everything in their respective lanes at least. Add in almost every skin too.. I think their sponsors or something buy them RP. I saw Wickd or someone just buying this skin of Irelia without a single thought >.>
They used their senses . They put off their headphones.. I dont think that they did it in the finals but i think they did it at the playoffs ... No one from riot has said anything about it.
It is kind of unavoidable. People outside of Taiwan and China most likely don't know the difference, and Taiwanese really don't like being called Chinese (meaning under the rule of government from mainland China) nationality wise.
AZF in general got sloppy, they weren't prepared for actually falling behind and started making some really risky and arguably stupid calls, for example Woong also was pretty stupid dieing less than 1 minute later
In spectator mode there is a 2-3 minute delay.
This is a special tournament client Riot was using that has either no delay or 10-30 seconds tops.
Combined with the fact that they didn't separate the teams from the auditorium nor did they even have the teams in a position that would have prevented any ability to see the monitors (like EVRY other non-Riot sponsored tourney does).
It was a big logistical fail on Riot's part.
this was so much more fun to watch than SSW vs SHR last year
I love you for uploading these, Appreciated :3
No there was no delay in this tourney.
That's part of the problem.
Every other non-Riot LoL tournament does the following:
1 - Seperates the teams from direct view of auditorium monitors by either putting them in a box (with a roof or awning and at an offset angle that doesn't give any line of sight to the monitors)
2 - Maintains the Spectator Mode 2 minute delay
Riot did neither until the last matches for the champion, and even then they still didn't use the default spectator mode delay.
a coincidence every time the fans and teams responded right after something being casted? that's A LOT of coincidences. there are many types of microphones that have different fields of recording. the ones on those headsets only picks up the voice of player.
Ah, I see, that's true. Here's another few points though; Let's say the cast is 3 minutes delayed. The screen behind the teams is what the audience watches (the cast, 3 minutes delayed), hence the audience's reactions right after something is casted, and the footage of the players is synced with the cast (3 minute delay) so everything looks like it's synced up. Also, after the end of the game, TPA cheers before the nexus is even destroyed. That's just what I think though.
considering how much they play, i am sure they have all the rune pages, all the runes, all the champions (all of the above bought with ip won in games), and probably enough skins (for their favorite champions and such), though i don't any of them really invested that much rp to buy all the skins
do the players have all the content unlocked or something? or do they just have access to all of the champions during these tournaments
u do understand at events that u can barely see the teams when ur live and you see the delayed gameplay just like everyone else including the announcers at live events the delay is like 30 secs last time i checked and the reaction cams are moved back of whatever time they are at to reflect it on the big screen it really isnt that hard and video tech can do it.....
Why didn't madlife just execute at the turrent at 2:50 is that like no allowed or something?...
coming back 9 years later :D how is everyone
40:41 Im not a really good person in lol i mean i dont have a clue what happend, but is that dyrus?
if there was a delay why would the teams react to things they did in-game that were just announced by the casters?
i'm pretty sure Riot makes the teams use the same noise-cancelling headsets for everyone. the headsets cancel out anything that's not coming from the game or their teams (crowd, announcers, etc).
awesome, thank you riot u r inspiration for all of us, for all new players! one day I will stand there!
Thanks for the quick upload
he didn't know if he was exactly seen or not, although TPA got vision of him through the ward at red. Madlife only moved from the bush, because he thought TPA was just checking the bush, but didn't know he was being chased, which is why he actually moved back towards tpa when he walked by the 2nd brush
Thanks for uploading. Nice quality too :)
I actually think he's right. They have microphones on their headsets that could easily pick up what was said from the casters, and it could've been a coincidence of the team reactions. I'm not sure though.
Thanks for the upload. Much appreciated.
what champion is TPA Bebe using? If someone could tell me, it would be greatly appreciated :D thanks!!
They didnt disappear, its just that all the people on the current TPA aren't weren't on the original championship team.
Why didn't mad life flash over base wall and denie First blood?
No they are not, they wouldn't post that announcement on the US website if it wasn't coming to the US client.
What happened with TPA, why did they dissapear ?
During i believe it was the quarter finals, one of the Azubu Frost players saw the other teams mini map on one of the arena's displays and AF changed their game plan because of it
It was vs TSM, and they weren't the only ones that did it.
I thought that Bebe used a different build?...Cuz on Sp4zie's video he shows a different build to this one??....
did someone know wich champ are get banned?
doesn't the tentancy stack?
does anyone know the bans for the 4th game?
"Never misses her bindings" I saw only one binding hit and that's from early game ..
TPA lost most of it's members in Season 3. No Toyz and that's already a big problem. TPA needs to recruit Toyz back. Season 3 match is so horrible, Finals are just like Diamond players playing against Silver. TPA completely had a plan and destroyed Azubu. Plus Azubu cheated in one of their games, which is kinda funny.
He had to retire because he got carpal tunnel.
Thank you for postin this
thank u so much for the upload
No, it only counts once, even across different kinds of items.
TPA what team have now?
what happened to them?
I am Taiwanese.i am so glad our team can get the world champion and I saw in the video many people are in our team thanks.
A lot of the teams looked at the screens behind them at various points during games. I noticed it happened in virtually every game where there was a pause. Not making excuses for AF nor any of the others who cheated in this manner.
Frankly, Riot was pretty thoughtless setting up the area. Hell, even something as simple as an awning and keeping the spectator delay would have prevented these issues.
They need to isolate teams from the main auditorium in the future.
Forgot to mention the removal of vision when Vision is primary in these games
why did they split up?
its really difficult to do that build in season two as the spirit of the lizard elder and the Iceborn Gauntlet dont exist.
Why didnt madlife just die by turret. so no FB !! ?? i dont get it.
Because Wards are a huge part of LoL and it can be the factor of a team losing or winning simply because they show where the team is. :)
I don't get why mistake leave tpa for tps.
he was thinking of buying merc treads for both nunu and willump, but sold one after realizing that nunu does all the work
the stream had delay i think he is talking about
Dont say skt1 win against tpa? They in a different meta between s2 and s3.
Toyz wasn't playing when they lost against skt ;p
what did he buy?
thanks for uploading:D
a question guys
from where is tpa?
Lanes?
What lanes?
at 2:45 why didn't madlife suicide at tower
o ok thats nice
is dota good? ive never played it
it seems harder than LoL
didn't toyz retire?
so u r czaru?
he was trying to run away?
both teams have both of this attributes but man look at the previous 3 games!!
The individual skills of the TPA players is srsly higher than AZF players.
It was crazy how AZF were dominated in the normal lane phase
TPA coming in with the most iconic team comp of all time
uhh... that doesn't explain why the teams celebrate plays at the same time they were just announced by the casters. did you even read my whole comment?
well looking at top comments for starting time is pretty standard
they looked at the minimap the day they had some problems when playing and games had to be stopped
Wonder if madlife's arm hurt after throwing this series so hard.
38:19 Nunu accidently bought 2 boots?
How did tsm or azubu cheat?
thx for uploading. :)
yeah, if other teams did that too it's good that i don't know, because that makes the whole competition or even most games of it unfair.
the reactions are replayed cause there is a delay
when and how they cheated ?
why is adc and supp top and solo top bot?
they looked at the screen for the audiende behind them at the beginning to see if the enemie team is goin to invade. that's how they picked up firstblood against TSM
when was top lane a support lane..
There's controversy surrounding AF saying that they cheated in an earlier game.
Mistake left, then stanley left because Mistake left, toyz then was the leader but he said there was too much pressure on him so he left also.
Deman is the best shout-caster i wish he was NA for the LCS that would be awesome
2:43 WTF that Lulu? Why didn't she just run into tower for the execution?
AZF wasnt able to look backwards on the minimap ! Bad Luck!
If i am not wrong AF is currently fined for cheating for Game 1, Semi Finals between the game with them and TSM. What basically happened was that Woong was caught cheating, looking back at the game screen and by doing so he gained benefits for his team avoiding a top gank on Shy.
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Seen them stream? They have most of the stuff. Almost everything in their respective lanes at least. Add in almost every skin too..
I think their sponsors or something buy them RP. I saw Wickd or someone just buying this skin of Irelia without a single thought >.>
Thank you very much dude!
But Toyz and Stanley are on Taipei Sniperz now, aren't they?
It can't have a 30sec delay when tpa doesn't stands up 30sec before they know they won... its obviously live.
Nunu (TPA MistakE) bought 2 mercury treads at 38:19 x.x
They were really nervious!
what they did and cheated?
Press Esc to exit full screen mode.
Something I just noticed is that Stanley had a perfect game!
38:20 Nunu bought 2 Shoe's. These guys surely were hyper nervous! :)
In what way did they cheat?
They used their senses . They put off their headphones.. I dont think that they did it in the finals but i think they did it at the playoffs ... No one from riot has said anything about it.
Toyz is such a beast!
outplay rapidstar literally EVERY GAME
If someone damages you once and you die by turret, it counts as their kill.
AF Woong looked at the big screen behind them against TSM
4:33 lilballz with both blue buffs??? No Toys has 1
That was a dumb move by Woong at 25:30, why wouldnt you anticipate that Trueshot?
Dat blind flash, taunt by stanley. Toyz played well but Stanley was the backbone every game.
It is kind of unavoidable. People outside of Taiwan and China most likely don't know the difference, and Taiwanese really don't like being called Chinese (meaning under the rule of government from mainland China) nationality wise.
At tournaments they definatly have all Champs they are all Free for them
AZF in general got sloppy, they weren't prepared for actually falling behind and started making some really risky and arguably stupid calls, for example Woong also was pretty stupid dieing less than 1 minute later
27:00 that op dive
What about them cheating? Etc having someone saying where the enemy team is and stuff like that.