i was told never let anyone go into your tools without your say so --- i was doing a shop job one day and came in to find out i had been replaced and they had open my tool box and was using my tools without me knowing as well -- lets just say they got told straight never go into someone else's tool box again without asking and to top it all up the guy didn't have his own tools as well
Yes it all costs you money. I was a self taught electrician and so I never went to college or had any formal training. I was into electronics as a kid and young adult so electrics came easy to me as it was much simpler. I worked as a self employed electrician for a few years and then took on plumbing as my second trade. Included in plumbing was the fitting of gas fires, cookers and boilers. It was all just plumbing. There was no law that said you couldn't do electrics or gas work if you hadn't qualified at college. If you made a mistake that put someone in danger or injured someone then you could get into serious trouble but that never happened with me. I worked alongside many plumbers and electricians who were fresh out of college but they didn't have a clue. I was often complimented on the standard of my work by the different electricity companies, MEB and MANWEB to name just two I remember. When they changed Corgi to Gas Safe and bought in "Part P", that killed off a lot of small businesses. I know fully qualified electricians who were just so offended that they were required to go to college to learn something they had been doing for 30 years, that they just quit. Of course, the real kicker was that you had to pay annually to be a member of these clubs.
@@truthseeker7794 so so true . I did C&Gs and qualified but I never joined any of the scams as there is no legal requirement to do so and it is not a legal requirement to have any formal training or qualifications. To be an electrician, but it’s always been a legal requirement to be corgi now gas safe registered if you work on any thing that uses gas , like it’s not a regulation or legal requirement for electricians to have or use a torque screwdriver yet college’s are conning students in to believing they it is a regulation requirement. I have never been a member of the competent person scams and I have no intention of ever joining any of them. They are not getting a penny of my hard earned folding .
@@seandempsey7351 Hi mate, I completely agree with you, they are just a money making scam. I've got my city and guilds, 17th Ed, 18th Ed, 2391 and have been doing it for about 14 years. Recently decided to go on my own but they've moved the goal posts again saying you need AM2 and NVQ Lvl3, all bullshit. So how do I get around signing off my own work without having building control in at £240 a time? Which annoys me because why should I have someone come and have a look at my work which I've sat and gained qualifications for and am very meticulous about, and he has a look asks a couple of questions then goes and I have to pay for that??? It's a complete rip off.
@@seandempsey7351 just a question as I’m a electrician myself who’s trying to work towards joining a CPS. How do you get round the signing off installations & initial verification without being on a CPS
@@nathanstephenson775 there is a lot of work you can do and issue a Minor Works Certificate. If you do ‘notifiable’ work, any informed customer will insist on an installation certificate and schedule of test results. Many though don’t know or don’t care, hence the leaky standards. I’m not a member of CPS but where I am confident, I have carried out notifiable work, recorded all stages to show competence then asked a sparky who is a NICEIC member to certify my work for a small fee (much less than the Local Building Control muppets).
The NIC are crap, been with them since 96 and they have gone downhill. Their main objective is to make money, they own the ECA, elecsa, are just a corporate monster. As for wholesaler's, the ones I use can't touch Screwfix on MK they are always more expensive. The bigger firms will get a rebate on what they have bought. Metal boards came about because of your fire brigade putting pressure on the IET, they were attending so many fires every week in London they wanted something doing, so it's the limp wristed electricians on your patch we have to thank. MK and crabtree were manufacturing boards that failed the hot wire test, and they have never been recalled.
29:00 very true, domestic electricians need to be good all-rounders, and good with people (customers/builders/other trades). This is often overlooked by some who are in the electrical trade.
Hi Leroy, When I first started the fuse boards old 3036 re-wrieables whare made out of Bakerlight, usually made by wilex. Never seen a wooden one. I have seen wooden switch and socket back boxes, usually with lead shaethed twin wire. The outer lead sheath was then used as an earth return, or that is what the old man who trained me said as he told me that he used to wire houses in this. He is dead now bless him but I am forever greatful for the knowledge he imparted into me as my mentor and teacher. The greatest gift you can give to anyone in life is knowledge.
Thanks for your comments, I should have qualified it the Base of the unit was made of wood. The Bus- Bar was fitted to the wood the cover was made of Bakelite.
Just had my first assessment with NICEIC after being with NAPIT for a while. Had a nice older fella who I found to be really pleasant and helpful. All round, a good experience for me. Thanks for the video 👌
Niceic like most have good and bad , inspectors some think there the police ..a lot are helpful so it’s a mix back .. I remember back to the EPTU unions. Going to meetings etc but now I have retired I no longer have to put up with them …,
Lol ECA do not run a competent persons scheme but back in the day it was The One to be with then NICEIC Ref inspectors they all have their ideas on a way to do the job ( I have run ins with them ) but if it complies it complies end of.Yes the inspectors sometimes have their own companies YOU would be good at it 😉.
I changed out a wooden fuse box a couple of months ago😁. Luckily there was enough slack from up the caverty to wire into the mcb's on new consumer unit😀🇬🇧🇬🇧
Only two really out there, NAPIT and NICEIC they bought out pretty all the other good competitors. By the way guys you don't need to be a member of any. I am with NAPIT.
i was told never let anyone go into your tools without your say so --- i was doing a shop job one day and came in to find out i had been replaced and they had open my tool box and was using my tools without me knowing as well -- lets just say they got told straight never go into someone else's tool box again without asking and to top it all up the guy didn't have his own tools as well
This would make a good kids bedtime story. And all good stories have a moral to them. This one is "don't do drugs kids"
After 20 years with the niceic I’m leaving this year, had enough of the assessments and paperwork , constant buying new books etc.
Yes it all costs you money. I was a self taught electrician and so I never went to college or had any formal training. I was into electronics as a kid and young adult so electrics came easy to me as it was much simpler. I worked as a self employed electrician for a few years and then took on plumbing as my second trade. Included in plumbing was the fitting of gas fires, cookers and boilers. It was all just plumbing. There was no law that said you couldn't do electrics or gas work if you hadn't qualified at college. If you made a mistake that put someone in danger or injured someone then you could get into serious trouble but that never happened with me. I worked alongside many plumbers and electricians who were fresh out of college but they didn't have a clue. I was often complimented on the standard of my work by the different electricity companies, MEB and MANWEB to name just two I remember. When they changed Corgi to Gas Safe and bought in "Part P", that killed off a lot of small businesses. I know fully qualified electricians who were just so offended that they were required to go to college to learn something they had been doing for 30 years, that they just quit. Of course, the real kicker was that you had to pay annually to be a member of these clubs.
@@truthseeker7794 so so true .
I did C&Gs and qualified but I never joined any of the scams as there is no legal requirement to do so and it is not a legal requirement to have any formal training or qualifications. To be an electrician, but it’s always been a legal requirement to be corgi now gas safe registered if you work on any thing that uses gas , like it’s not a regulation or legal requirement for electricians to have or use a torque screwdriver yet college’s are conning students in to believing they it is a regulation requirement. I have never been a member of the competent person scams and I have no intention of ever joining any of them. They are not getting a penny of my hard earned folding .
@@seandempsey7351 Hi mate, I completely agree with you, they are just a money making scam. I've got my city and guilds, 17th Ed, 18th Ed, 2391 and have been doing it for about 14 years. Recently decided to go on my own but they've moved the goal posts again saying you need AM2 and NVQ Lvl3, all bullshit. So how do I get around signing off my own work without having building control in at £240 a time? Which annoys me because why should I have someone come and have a look at my work which I've sat and gained qualifications for and am very meticulous about, and he has a look asks a couple of questions then goes and I have to pay for that??? It's a complete rip off.
@@seandempsey7351 just a question as I’m a electrician myself who’s trying to work towards joining a CPS. How do you get round the signing off installations & initial verification without being on a CPS
@@nathanstephenson775 there is a lot of work you can do and issue a Minor Works Certificate. If you do ‘notifiable’ work, any informed customer will insist on an installation certificate and schedule of test results. Many though don’t know or don’t care, hence the leaky standards. I’m not a member of CPS but where I am confident, I have carried out notifiable work, recorded all stages to show competence then asked a sparky who is a NICEIC member to certify my work for a small fee (much less than the Local Building Control muppets).
The NIC are crap, been with them since 96 and they have gone downhill. Their main objective is to make money, they own the ECA, elecsa, are just a corporate monster.
As for wholesaler's, the ones I use can't touch Screwfix on MK they are always more expensive. The bigger firms will get a rebate on what they have bought.
Metal boards came about because of your fire brigade putting pressure on the IET, they were attending so many fires every week in London they wanted something doing, so it's the limp wristed electricians on your patch we have to thank.
MK and crabtree were manufacturing boards that failed the hot wire test, and they have never been recalled.
Lovely bloke, really down to earth, keep up the great work mate.
29:00 very true, domestic electricians need to be good all-rounders, and good with people (customers/builders/other trades). This is often overlooked by some who are in the electrical trade.
As for wholesalers I used senate in Islington , and cef and others
Hi Leroy, When I first started the fuse boards old 3036 re-wrieables whare made out of Bakerlight, usually made by wilex.
Never seen a wooden one. I have seen wooden switch and socket back boxes, usually with lead shaethed twin wire. The outer
lead sheath was then used as an earth return, or that is what the old man who trained me said as he told me that he used to
wire houses in this. He is dead now bless him but I am forever greatful for the knowledge he imparted into me as my mentor
and teacher. The greatest gift you can give to anyone in life is knowledge.
Thanks for your comments, I should have qualified it the Base of the unit was made of wood. The Bus- Bar was fitted to the wood the cover was made of Bakelite.
Its Delroy by the way
Just had my first assessment with NICEIC after being with NAPIT for a while. Had a nice older fella who I found to be really pleasant and helpful. All round, a good experience for me.
Thanks for the video 👌
thanks
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Niceic like most have good and bad , inspectors some think there the police ..a lot are helpful so it’s a mix back .. I remember back to the EPTU unions. Going to meetings etc but now I have retired I no longer have to put up with them …,
I've been with the niceic for 35 years
17:55 bakelite
Lol ECA do not run a competent persons scheme but back in the day it was The One to be with then NICEIC Ref inspectors they all have their ideas on a way to do the job ( I have run ins with them ) but if it complies it complies end of.Yes the inspectors sometimes have their own companies YOU would be good at it 😉.
REALLY!
Good crack lads 👍
That tough plastic you were trying to think of, it might well be bakelite.
It was the predecsor to todays plastics.
I changed out a wooden fuse box a couple of months ago😁. Luckily there was enough slack from up the caverty to wire into the mcb's on new consumer unit😀🇬🇧🇬🇧
Great video, Delroy.
Thanks for watching
Only two really out there, NAPIT and NICEIC they bought out pretty all the other good competitors.
By the way guys you don't need to be a member of any.
I am with NAPIT.
If your not registered with them how do you notify jobs for part P
@@acelectricalsecurity Bingo! Waiting for a tumbleweed moment now you’ve asked that 🧐
@@acelectricalsecuritypay another spark who is to notify and put it on the job
Thomas who?
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