I mean, you can still stream on twitch, cause you get more money, and more money, more projects, and that's a fact, and on youtube for the future, you can stream on 2 platforms, at the same time :D. I would do that if i was you (: btw, i watched your video about the logitech stream cam, but still, bought it. It was still good for me to decide if to buy it, or not
I started streaming on RUclips a few years ago and thanks to it, gave me a huge boost to my channel. Its great for discoverability and allows your channel to grow quite well if you treat it right. The issue with RUclips is like you mentioned. Its a video platform, not a live one.. so RUclips does not know how to monetize a 4-6hr+ livestream so you make almost nothing.
Hey @MixelPlx Do you leave your live videos on your channel or do you make them unlisted? I'm moving streaming to RUclips but I'm hearing different stories on what to do
@@1birdwargames587 Personally I've been leaving my live streams up that way if someone is bored they can just watch a 30 minute or longer stream depending on how long I streamed for but still working on trying to record videos as well to upload. Oh and I'm in no means a big channel in anyway.
I wish YT added a streams tab just like the shorts tab they have. I think that could massively improve the popularity and discoverability of streams on the platform.
thats what youtube gaming was but.. we all know what happened to that, and i think google took that as a hard L meaning theyre probably gonna be hesitant to try that again, but honestly i think they just were just ahead of theyre time and it was almost out of place ig, but if they try it now im sure it would be popular since there's now super chats. members. and all that other streamer stuff like with how ads are displayed and shit
One of my favorite things about watching RUclips live streams over Twitch. Which you didn't go over is the fact that if you missed something big and can't figure out what's going on.... I can rewind your stream to find out, then boom fast forward back to live. I just wish RUclips put more effort into live streams but it seems they don't care which makes sense but it keeps me putting money elsewhere. I wish RUclips would listen to you like Twitch did and honestly as well as other areas of the streaming world have!
On twitch, you can kind of rewind, but it's inconvenient. You have to go to the channel, past broadcasts and open the archive of the current stream. And then back to channel main page to resume watching. RUclips's UI is way better in that regard when it works, but on many streams you don't get rewind at all.
RUclips not caring about their streaming platform doesn't make any sense. It would only benefit the platform to give streamers reasons to stream on YT over any other platform
I keep hearing the opinion: "Twitch will die when other platforms start adopting livestreams" and what doesn't make sense to me is Twitch is a GAMING platform. So while RUclips and TikTok may be growing more then Twitch, the audience is alot more generalized. If you're doing a gaming stream wouldn't it make more sense to be on a platform where gaming is the primary audience? Like Facebook Gaming boasts its numbers, but facebook is mostly old boomers who probably have 0 interest in gaming streams, so even if the audience is "bigger" its not relevant to your content.
100%, these creators are not taking that fact into consideration at all. TikTok isn't where gamers go to watch people play games, it's RUclips or Twitch.
While twitch may be the ultimate live stream gaming platform at the moment, the direction they’re going right now is anything but that. It’s getting filled with eGirls making money off kids by getting into bikinis and hot tubs while promoting their OnlyFans. How is that related to gaming in the SLIGHTEST?
I dunno; did his opinion change a whole lot after a month? He basically said the same things a month ago when he explained why he was switching. I don't believe that he'll change his mind a whole lot. The most surprising conclusion would be if he realized that there is no real growth on RUclips and he'll go back to Twitch. Everything else would be what we are all expecting?
The discoverability on Twitch really does need the clip feature integrated similar to something like TikTok. It would be great to be able to browse your clips and mark which ones you wanted to make browsable so that only the most interesting moments were being pushed out there
I love how you’re transparent about the financial part. That’s really awesome of you. I haven’t been watching long, but I’ve learned so much in the short period of time that has given me the confidence and somewhat know how to start streaming myself.
I really, really appreciate how transparent you are about the revenue side of the creator path. One of the biggest things I always get caught up on (alongside my crippling perfectionism and anxiety, which I’m also working on) is will I be able to do this as a job one day - and my “one day” isn’t even soon, I’m fully aware of that, haha. But because so many people are scared to talk about money because we’re sadly taught to be that way by employers I was always left feeling like I was floating; caught in this continuous cycle of “one day I’ll figure it out, THEN I can start”. Your videos help change that by giving me a grounding concept - monetization - which then allows my brain to focus more on the creative since it now knows that ground is there. Anyways, I wanted to say thank you. Now once I get my mental health sorted out (an uphill battle, haha, but sorted to a point) I can finally start content creating and enjoy not just the dreams but the reality of the path. Thank you! 🎉
As a creator who began on Twitch in 2016, moved to RUclips in 2019 when a sponsor pushed for it, only to move back in 2020 I feel you hit the nail on the head with some of the issues. Twitch has a community that is both generous in support and shared a love for the emotes and things that are cross channel. RUclips I found not only took an ungodly cut of memberships and superchats (particularly if the transaction went through a mobile) but many seemed confused by the concept and just watched the replays. Notifications/Recommendations were also a huge problem when I left and reverted to edited videos here. People got random alerts when I was scheduling things but then wouldn't get a notification I'd gone live? They'd turn up 2 hours in and were annoyed at RUclips as they had the bell ticked. I also found streams had a weird negative effect on my videos. People who skipped a stream notification suddenly didn't get an alert for a video series they loved. People who skipped me playing Battlefront suddenly didn't get alerts for Fallen Order. RUclips's system seemed to have no way of separating different games without an entirely new channel. In short I got frustrated and my RUclips channel never recovered. 3k average views to the 20k average when I began streaming here.
I love yt for videos, but they have to do something about livestream notifications. They literally send a notif everytime I edit the name of the stream even though I'm not live or not planning, BUT when I really am live, nope, nobody receives one :)) The livestream panel was way better in the previous version. I know you can edit everything at "manage/schedule live" but I have to reinsert everytime the description and so on, and it's weird that they'll get a notif when I schedule it, and another one when I am live, AND ANOTHER ONE after the livestream ends :))))
Yeah i hear you. I used to stream a lot on yt. What sucks is, that anytime u need to change something, and it resends a notif to someone, it can seem spammy and ppl will turn off notifications to ur channel sadly.
I agree, I love the platform more then twitch but only the really super active people get noti I think which is horrible if you are not a grinder on streams on youtube, so it doesnt really encourage you if you dont do it a lot, but I think discoverability is kind of bad on both right now, but hey I think you need to feel the grind is worth it anyhow in the end, but likelyhood of living on it is such a small chance that most should probably just skip it and do it for a some kind of side income, 😎
Funny that you criticize the missing discoverability on Twitch, while it is that what I think is the biggest game-breaker when it comes to streaming on RUclips. To find a live-stream on RUclips that fits your taste is just horrible. That's why I still watch Videos on RUclips and Streams on Twitch, because on Twitch I always find a cool streamer that fits easily.
Interesting video! Thanks for sharing your move from Twitch to YT for streaming. I wish you had gone into some detail on whether to leave livestreams public, private, unlisted or avoid streaming on YT in general for established creators on this platform. I moved to Twitch because in 2018 it seemed like every time I would go live on YT my channel momentum would completely die, videos would not get recommended, people wouldn't get notified, etc because stream were tied to the same algorithm as videos so total watch time and % viewed on stream would kill my channel's performance. You said YT you feel like you have a lot of room for creativity. That's exactly the opposite sentiment I have. Twitch for me is that exact place where I can do whatever I want, have fun with it, and my business isn't impacted in a negative way simply because went out of the niche I was in. Its a shame because no matter how much livestreaming improves on YT, it will be incredibly hard to gain. back my trust that the moment I hit go live, my views wont drop by over 50% for a weeks weeks after that livestream. However, I miss one very important thing from YT streaming: The encoding features! Twitch caps you at a 6k bitrate and YT at 144k!? Twitch needs to catch up with the times, especially since they are dedicated to livestreaming!
i been on youtube for 2 years, you moving to youtube made me real happy when almost everyone else is moving to twitch. sorry to hear that youve lost alot on the switch but i do agree with you that i also think its the better long term place to be. bravo
You’ve reminded me of a very valuable lesson today and that is thinking long term. When you mentioned about the difficulty of getting monetisation on RUclips over Twitch it made so much more sense so thank you for bringing that to light. Your long term outlook really helps and I’m inspired by you to think about things that way too :D great video, thank you!
Harris has his main revenue stream built outside of his youtube content. His Streambeats platform makes him over 50k a month in revenue. He can afford the hit even without sponsors.
Thanks a lot. This is really useful insight. Even as I’m working on growing on Twitch I anticipate eventually making it more of a secondary platform if not completely eliminating it altogether if it doesn’t die off before then. I’ve never experienced a platform dying underneath me firsthand, but Vine and Mixer still taught me a lot of lessons about taking platform stability seriously.
One thing YT needs to fix ASAP is making a video channel not be negatively impacted by live streams, and vice versa, so that you don't need to split your audience.
@@NovaDoll Yeah... Still a flex, a millionaire can work hard for their money, but if they are flexing it then it still counts as "flexing". Also, this comment is a joke.
@@NovaDoll he didn't make the music he comissioned it, that's like thanking the label for taking advantage of desperate artists. He got rich off the back of fiver producers lol they don't see a penny because he knows they had no leverage to negotiate ownership. He's literally just acting as a label, and a predatory one at that.
You’re a smart and fortunate dude. We are an equally fortunate community to have you. Continue to spread your innovation to RUclips if they will listen. They have always been a few focused features away from fostering a community more effectively.
No ads on my RUclips live streams. Bro this really spoke to me!!!! As soon as I got monetized I thought that everything should have ads on them including live streams but it actually makes SO much sense to turn those off especially when you’re smaller like me because it is so much more important for people to see my content and have a good first impression and not be tempted to leave if they’re greeted with an ad. The more and more I watch your vids the more I am thinking I should put the brakes on Twitch, which I JUST started and focus more on building my RUclips live streaming! Thanks man 🙏🏾
As a small creator that Shorts discovery is playing a huge role in my livestreams. I went from am average of 10 views to 40-70 just by having those supplemental shorts. I wish twitch had better discoverability tools.
My region [Jordan] Does not support Super Chat or all the streaming perks, only last week we got the Channel Memberships option, Super chat has been coming soon since 2018...
Holy heck, you're one of my faves SoT content creators, I didn't know you're from Jordan. The inter-webs makes this world seem much smaller than it actually is.
I'm also taking the dive, I'm thinking long term and the direction twitch is going in atm scares me. Happy, excited and really nervous to start going full time on RUclips! Thank you for breaking down the pro's and cons Harris; no doubt this will help a lot of people make a good decision.
When I started making content almost a year ago, I chose RUclips because I was in for the long haul and streaming was never the priority. It has always been supplementary to my other content. I'm almost halfway to the partner requirements and I couldn't be happier! I've only been given around $6-$10 over that whole time in tips, but I'm aiming for that RUclips ad revenue and memberships!
I agree, I think youtube will put more into the live-streaming experience and improving that bc they seemed to get quick on the shorts and stories side as well. I think youtube needs to figure a way for creators to easily organize their uploads tab and live streams more separately as well to appeal to the ordinary creator on yt tho.
i started yt in 2010. in 2014 i started streaming on yt, in 2016 i went to twitch for opportunity. i would also do youtube as well. as it went on i sided more and more with twitch because my growth and how good it was doing, eventually it fell, i switched back to youtube at the end of last year because i feel the same way, twitch is gonna fall ONE DAY. for the same reason snapchat did. my audience and revenue DROPPED SOOO MUCH especially since im not big named or have a HUGE Community. but i see it slowly coming back and i can see YT becoming great to stream on. i love watching your videos, were on like the same level and track and when i hear you say what i was thinking, it makes me happy and keeps me motivated to stay on track!
From my experience, I see two major issues 1 - youtube doesn't even tell subscribers that a stream is happening. The home screen is saturated with non-relevant content, it doesn't update the subscribed list to tell subs about streams (that red dot doesn't appear). On a desktop it's simply an obtuse platform. Twitch does this way better. 2 - Then there's the analytics part: streaming CTR and video CTR interact with each other when it's wildly different content. Streams will then impact video impressions. When the stream is turned off, youtube will then push it to viewers as if it were a video, cranking a huge number of impressions that wont be clicked, because a stream has almost zero huge after ending, lowering the CTR even more!
I feel that way, Twitch is very well designed, organized, and intuitive for just jumping in and streaming. Sometimes streaming on YT feels like a second class citizen......although many people say streaming here for a while boosted their growth a ton. Since those people were already loyal to the platform. Problem is YT needs to monetize live streams better too.
Waited for this Video so long! And yeah, I think you're absolutely right. You should stream where your audience is! Pick the main platform like YT, Twitter, Insta, or whatever, and then just engage where your audience already is. Transform your audience to another platform won't be the way to go in the next years.
On the subject of the future of live-streaming, I believe that if it continues as you are predicting then the quality of live-streams will need to be vastly improved. No more sitting and just chatting, I think the only live-streams that will survive on platforms like RUclips, Instagram or Facebook will be ones that have a purpose. For example, live performances of music or shows. Or something more like the Joe Rogan Experience, where there are guests and specific topics. As you mention, people come to platforms like YT for clean, polished videos that serve a purpose. That’s not always the case on Twitch, people there generally just wanna hang out.
As someone who is about to start streaming for the first time, this is encouraging that RUclips (YT) is probably the best way to go (for now). Thanks for the information and best of luck (re)growing your streaming community here on YT. 👍
As a newbie youtuber, I make videos but I feel I am underperforming myself and wanted to do streams as well and make stories of my Minecraft SMP server, but I was confused between RUclips and Twitch. Many suggested Like the pros you mentioned for Twitch, I was tempted to go on Twitch, but I also felt the same about your thoughts on the "long term stay" and RUclips felt like the better one, so here I am. =)
I find the biggest difference between me streaming on Twitch vs RUclips is that on twitch people tend to interact more. I don't have a big channel because it just do it for fun but if 1 or 2 people are watching on Twitch they tend to chat and ask questions and I get the interaction so I'm not just talking to myself the whole time. On RUclips if I have 1 or 2 people watching, no chat at all. They don't even say hi. So I just talk to myself, and I can only keep that going so long before I just think I'm getting annoying.
I've been using Shorts on the weekend when I don't stream, full of highlights from streams during the week & they've been growing my channel a lot faster than just streaming which is what i used to do. It's very nice to have everything all together on one channel. Being on RUclips for just over a year now and it's really been one of the best choices i made, I hate trying to find good streamers to watch on Twitch as well without going in there and wondering why so many people are actually watching this person because half the time it doesn't even feel like a interactive experience. As for upcoming features. They finally are adding a Sub only mode to RUclips Live which is something i've been wanting for a long time, let's hope they look at gifting memeberships soon too!
YT is not a live streaming platform, which is why from a viewer's perspective (at least for me) is horrible, tiny chat, distracting recommended videos directly below, no global emotes, bad discoverability, and an overall empty/awkward experience. Not to mention a live stream feels like you're watching any other video. They should refresh the UI to separate a normal video from a live stream.
Actually there are global emotes, they're just not as trendy as Twitch's. Also, I'm a little confused about your comment about YT's chat. I find its size very comparable to Twitch on the computer or mobile. As for discoverability, I regularly have brand new people coming into my streams. But I agree, they could definitely improve the UI moving forward👍
@@BrknLaw Guessing the channel must enable global emotes, cause when l go to a random stream it's only emojis and/or the locked channel emotes. The chat is a small short box on the right of the player compared to the long one on Twitch that uses the whole real estate (from top to bottom), Harris has pointed this out before. Theatre mode and full screen both get rid of chat which is ridiculous. Discoverability is bad, you have new people in your streams most likely because your videos are recommended to them, they subscribe, then get notified that you're live, otherwise, they probably wouldn't find you. It's dumb how there are 2 live sections on the left panel on the homepage (Gaming and Live). Why not make 1 section that's easier to find and browse?
@@smartalic5 totally fair 😁👍 but when I'm talking about new people in my streams, it's their first time encountering my channel at all because they were just looking for a live stream going. So pros and cons for sure!
Like you said at the start, I go to different platforms for different things. If I find someone in one place I’ll follow them everywhere I want to including Twitch. I don’t go to other places to watch streams 🤷🏻
I’m trying to get into streaming myself and this kinda broke down the basics for me and taught me with stuff like this you have to think not in the present but the future. Great video I appreciated 👍🏽
Thank you so much for this video, I've been struggling with which to start live streaming on and was leaning towards RUclips and you sealed the deal! :)
What kind of things can you do on youtube that you cant on twitch? I may not know bc i guess im pretty tame, but does youtube explicitly allow things that twitch disallows?
@@Artbug go on the list of things, and words that will get you banned even if u use them in context, and not against another streamer, do not get me wrong RUclips is very bad, but Twitch somehow it actually a lot worse...
@@Artbug The main difference is Twitch has active humans that moderate twitch channels (not the twitch chat mods chosen by channel owners, actual twitch-wide mods). This allows for personal judgement by the moderators on top of twitch's general rules. Some people claim twitch has power hungry and/or biased mods. YT, on the other hand, is a robot that may or may not demonetize your content for some random reason that may or may not have anything to do with anything at all. It's not the smartest of robots. It is, however, extremely 'strict' in the sense that it does not have an opinion. It either censors because you broke the rules, or it censors because it thinks you did. It's judgement is 100% punitive and final.
@@n0madtv I actually think that's a good thing. Twitch is WAY too inconsistent because people moderating the site have different opinions, and not to mention they almost ALWAYS neglect to tell you the reason you were banned. How can someone make changes or improve if they don't know assuming it was for a good reason? If I get banned or shut down on RUclips, I trust their reasoning more because it's unbiased since a robot is doing it.
I love twitch and on one hand I could see it becoming less viable as the years go on and as other companies innovate enough to include most of its key components. Equally though I could also see it blowing up and being (like it is for me) the next big thing and becoming an almost alternative to TV. Traditional Television and Services like Sky are pulling less and less views yearly as other more convenient ones take its place (netflix etc...) and there's something so easy and unique in twitch I think other platforms might struggle to compete with.
Great points about Twitch. I currently stream to Twitch but the discoverability on it seems like an impossible mountain to climb but on RUclips if you make great content and are entertaining then you can gain subs so quickly.
Watched the entire video, and still am shocked that you willingly went from $15K/mo to $3K. Anyway, this is a good and informative video. I’ve been questioning whether I should be on Twitch or a different platform. Not sure I want to go to RUclips Live (personal reasons), but have considered looking into other platforms.
I agree completely. It makes sense. Im on youtube now trying to do my own gaming and slice of life channel and it makes sense to just have it all in one place with my streaming. Just have to take the risk.
I’ve only recently discovered you and thought you’d just stopped streaming all together because you’d not been on twitch. I’ll definitely look forward to checking out the RUclips streams and seeing what it’s all about!
From what I noticed is this. I found youtube easier to grow while streaming when starting out compared to twitch. I feel like twitch has an algorithm that isn't the best for people starting out compared to RUclips where I see myself getting more people in streams. My plan is to grow my yt channel first because streams do count towards watch hours for monetization and later on once I build my audience and if everyone was happy I would switch to twitch
Been on your channel for almost 2 years. Binge watching your videos. And now starting to see that dedication and good content is what evolves you not only as a content creator but also as a person! Very cool to see you go on your journey! Made someday we'll meet at the top! Keep it going Streamdoc! Greeting Ragga
This is some amazing information. I'm past the prime of being able to start streaming but this is really informative of where the future is going. I may have to start checking out some youtube streamers. I'm a diehard twitch viewer, but you bring up a lot of good points for why YT may be the future.
So only thing I see as an issue is he named all those platforms that revolve around a specific type on media consumption, but then said "they are making streaming services". So he admits no one BUT Twitch only focus is streaming. And Twitch will just copy someone else's is doing if it is successful. They did it to Mixer. Granted it took awhile. But they did it non the less.
I made the transition from twitch to RUclips, and all I have to say is, I Love it!!! Remember to just keep striving and never give up❤ we got this guys 💪
3:48 ye of course thats how it should be.. I've been streaming for over 3 years on youtube and I'm super thankful for the donos I did get but I always told viewers to only donate if they're 100% sure... cause is their money
You literally just spoke to the inner me and helped me make my decision. Thank you! For real bro and I appreciate you and Sam for teaching this young Jedi!
Honestly, as a viewer, I like twitch so much more as a platform both due to its community and features (better chat, lower delay, emotes, gift subs, channel points, raids, BTTV/FFZ) that if my favorite twitch twitch streamers moved to youtube, I would probably stop watching them and watch other twitch streamers. There's not much difference if you want to passively watch streams, but any kind of interaction with streamers or other viewers is way better on twitch, so exactly the same content creator is way more boring to watch on youtube.
If youtube improved its algorithm for live streaming, gave them money, and improved the chat experience (like overhauling the whole thing), then many people would probably switch from twitch to YT.
I have been debating for a very long time on going LIVE. I have both platforms but no LIVE streams and the hardest thing is taking that leap. I'm going to choose YT and start this weekend. I have all the equipment but taking that first step is somewhat trepidating. Thank you for this video.
Honestly I’m thinking I will do both. Once a week on my second streaming channel on RUclips, and during the week I am going to just stream for fun on Twitch.
I plan to multistream. Granted I'm not even an affiliate on Twitch, and I have no plans to pursue that. Affiliates should be allowed to multistream. Twitch makes it easier to become affiliate because they want to lock you in. The moment you become an affiliate, Twitch has the idea that you're potential revenue for them and are gambling on your success. If your channel explodes in viewership, they already got you locked in. It's like they're trying to hold on to their monopoly in the streaming space with a death grip, and it works for them.
@@tyisafk Yea it’s a weird system. I have really been growing my main channel here on RUclips so I’m just going to do the streams as a bonus for my core fans and keep them relevant to my niche. Then I can just stream whatever I feel like over in the purple place.
There are some very solid points here. I think I'm gonna make the switch from twitch! I have a very small following on twitch seeing as I just started a few months ago. It seems like the better move to make. Thanks Harris for keeping honest ans providing this information to us!!
Do you ever feel worried that you're putting all your eggs in one basket? I thought about making the switch but I'm also a RUclips content creator . And seeing the recent terminations on RUclips. And knowing the uncertainty of what may happen on your stream that is uncontrollable. If RUclips terminate you all your channels go down. And all your viewership is gone. Which if you streamed on twitch and got terminated on RUclips you always have your twitch viewers.
People willing to spend long amounts of time on your stream are definitely the only people who will purchase a subscription type plan, makes sense because they are your most hardcore fans and they get more interactions with you. Twitch really got it right with that aspect. More people have to challenge and change the ecosystem for it to be a reality, because if 30% of people jump off stream once an ad runs........there is little hope to monetize a stream (that's already long) outside of donations/subscriptions.
I totally agree with you. I want to start streaming and I wasn't sure which one to use. I'm pretty sure I'll go with youtube. Long term is the goal. Can't wait to see one of your live streams!
HEY HARRIS HELLER!! disclaimer: too long to read I've watched tons of your RUclips videos. I am even watching this as I type. but I had to pause just to say this. while watching your vids -- coming up to this point, I can't help but realize that you have this impact of "hhmmm. this dude looks like he's just literally streaming as a source of income" -- absolutely nothing wrong with that at all. hey. you have to live. you do you. but. have you ever streamed just for the "fun" of it? seriously.. call me old school but I still believe that streaming was built for people who really enjoy what they are doing and having the privilege of them being shown in the world and also earning at the same time. think about it this way.. basketball players -- do you go to the NBA with the idea because it pays? probably not... you pursue that because you really wanna play and you believe that it is the ultimate platform to play basketball, right? kinda like what I'm pointing here. --- do you stream just for the "financial" benefit of it?
I do agree. There's so much that twitch could add to make the platform so much better. And im sure youtube will add what they're missing. Like gifted members and I could see them doing something similar to bits as well.
Thank you for your very informative video I'm a new streamer and trying to learn what I can the right way lol and not just jump into it so I appreciate having a look at where things might be headed with the streaming future
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I mean, you can still stream on twitch, cause you get more money, and more money, more projects, and that's a fact, and on youtube for the future, you can stream on 2 platforms, at the same time :D.
I would do that if i was you (:
btw, i watched your video about the logitech stream cam, but still, bought it. It was still good for me to decide if to buy it, or not
yet another whine about twitch. adapt harris, seriously. it's boring, especially given your not on there anymore.
Scammer. Are you kidding me.
Hey man. Do you recommend making a separate youtube channel for livestreaming or just stream on your current channel? How do you do it?
Check out Trovo.live is a new streaming platform u might like it
I started streaming on RUclips a few years ago and thanks to it, gave me a huge boost to my channel. Its great for discoverability and allows your channel to grow quite well if you treat it right. The issue with RUclips is like you mentioned. Its a video platform, not a live one.. so RUclips does not know how to monetize a 4-6hr+ livestream so you make almost nothing.
Hey @MixelPlx Do you leave your live videos on your channel or do you make them unlisted? I'm moving streaming to RUclips but I'm hearing different stories on what to do
@@1birdwargames587 Personally I've been leaving my live streams up that way if someone is bored they can just watch a 30 minute or longer stream depending on how long I streamed for but still working on trying to record videos as well to upload. Oh and I'm in no means a big channel in anyway.
Oh they know how, they just haven’t implemented it. They know they can kill off twitch whenever they want.
Mixelpix u killed me recently on sot lol
Dudeee didn’t expect to see you hear. You’re the only Twitch streamer I watch
I wish YT added a streams tab just like the shorts tab they have. I think that could massively improve the popularity and discoverability of streams on the platform.
thats what youtube gaming was but.. we all know what happened to that, and i think google took that as a hard L meaning theyre probably gonna be hesitant to try that again, but honestly i think they just were just ahead of theyre time and it was almost out of place ig, but if they try it now im sure it would be popular since there's now super chats. members. and all that other streamer stuff like with how ads are displayed and shit
they actually are right now!!!
You know how long I've been on RUclips before I realized streaming was even a thing that you could do on here they don't advertise it at all even
Well it's kinda there now. Search up the game you want to see, click on the topic, then live and bam all current live streams
Such a simple idea yet theyll probably never add it. It would even make them better than twitch and even tiktok too.
A lot of great points. I agree with almost everything you said. I don't come to your channel often but you have a great mindset that I admire!
Love you Ola !
RUclips or twitch which chugs better ?
Surprised to see you in this comment section
Love your twitch streams Ola!
what the fuck i didn't expect you here
One of my favorite things about watching RUclips live streams over Twitch. Which you didn't go over is the fact that if you missed something big and can't figure out what's going on.... I can rewind your stream to find out, then boom fast forward back to live. I just wish RUclips put more effort into live streams but it seems they don't care which makes sense but it keeps me putting money elsewhere. I wish RUclips would listen to you like Twitch did and honestly as well as other areas of the streaming world have!
On twitch, you can kind of rewind, but it's inconvenient. You have to go to the channel, past broadcasts and open the archive of the current stream. And then back to channel main page to resume watching. RUclips's UI is way better in that regard when it works, but on many streams you don't get rewind at all.
you can rewind streams on twitch too
RUclips not caring about their streaming platform doesn't make any sense. It would only benefit the platform to give streamers reasons to stream on YT over any other platform
That Snapchat "sticker peeled off" animation. That was cool😊
7:56 • In case anyone missed it, because it was really cool!
Yup.
Thanks! I enjoyed making it!
@@SamWoodhall how did you do it?! That was insane!
I agree
I keep hearing the opinion: "Twitch will die when other platforms start adopting livestreams" and what doesn't make sense to me is Twitch is a GAMING platform. So while RUclips and TikTok may be growing more then Twitch, the audience is alot more generalized. If you're doing a gaming stream wouldn't it make more sense to be on a platform where gaming is the primary audience? Like Facebook Gaming boasts its numbers, but facebook is mostly old boomers who probably have 0 interest in gaming streams, so even if the audience is "bigger" its not relevant to your content.
100%, these creators are not taking that fact into consideration at all. TikTok isn't where gamers go to watch people play games, it's RUclips or Twitch.
damn i guess those hot tub streamers doesn't really exist at all for you
While twitch may be the ultimate live stream gaming platform at the moment, the direction they’re going right now is anything but that. It’s getting filled with eGirls making money off kids by getting into bikinis and hot tubs while promoting their OnlyFans. How is that related to gaming in the SLIGHTEST?
@@MykorL ok incel
Nice to see your perspective & thoughts after a month! Will be cool to see if things change after 3 months/6 months etc
yep what a nice guy
I dunno; did his opinion change a whole lot after a month? He basically said the same things a month ago when he explained why he was switching. I don't believe that he'll change his mind a whole lot. The most surprising conclusion would be if he realized that there is no real growth on RUclips and he'll go back to Twitch. Everything else would be what we are all expecting?
He lost alot of money
TRU
@@cognacyang9342 he's also utterly loaded, he doesn't care that he lost a lot of money.
The discoverability on Twitch really does need the clip feature integrated similar to something like TikTok. It would be great to be able to browse your clips and mark which ones you wanted to make browsable so that only the most interesting moments were being pushed out there
That is such a smart idea
100%. clips get so many views on tiktok and shorts that it makes no sense why twitch hasnt adapted yet
I love how you’re transparent about the financial part. That’s really awesome of you. I haven’t been watching long, but I’ve learned so much in the short period of time that has given me the confidence and somewhat know how to start streaming myself.
I really, really appreciate how transparent you are about the revenue side of the creator path. One of the biggest things I always get caught up on (alongside my crippling perfectionism and anxiety, which I’m also working on) is will I be able to do this as a job one day - and my “one day” isn’t even soon, I’m fully aware of that, haha. But because so many people are scared to talk about money because we’re sadly taught to be that way by employers I was always left feeling like I was floating; caught in this continuous cycle of “one day I’ll figure it out, THEN I can start”.
Your videos help change that by giving me a grounding concept - monetization - which then allows my brain to focus more on the creative since it now knows that ground is there. Anyways, I wanted to say thank you. Now once I get my mental health sorted out (an uphill battle, haha, but sorted to a point) I can finally start content creating and enjoy not just the dreams but the reality of the path.
Thank you! 🎉
As a creator who began on Twitch in 2016, moved to RUclips in 2019 when a sponsor pushed for it, only to move back in 2020 I feel you hit the nail on the head with some of the issues. Twitch has a community that is both generous in support and shared a love for the emotes and things that are cross channel. RUclips I found not only took an ungodly cut of memberships and superchats (particularly if the transaction went through a mobile) but many seemed confused by the concept and just watched the replays.
Notifications/Recommendations were also a huge problem when I left and reverted to edited videos here. People got random alerts when I was scheduling things but then wouldn't get a notification I'd gone live? They'd turn up 2 hours in and were annoyed at RUclips as they had the bell ticked. I also found streams had a weird negative effect on my videos. People who skipped a stream notification suddenly didn't get an alert for a video series they loved. People who skipped me playing Battlefront suddenly didn't get alerts for Fallen Order. RUclips's system seemed to have no way of separating different games without an entirely new channel.
In short I got frustrated and my RUclips channel never recovered. 3k average views to the 20k average when I began streaming here.
I love yt for videos, but they have to do something about livestream notifications. They literally send a notif everytime I edit the name of the stream even though I'm not live or not planning, BUT when I really am live, nope, nobody receives one :)) The livestream panel was way better in the previous version. I know you can edit everything at "manage/schedule live" but I have to reinsert everytime the description and so on, and it's weird that they'll get a notif when I schedule it, and another one when I am live, AND ANOTHER ONE after the livestream ends :))))
This happens to me all the time and half the time it still didn't change the description on the video it produces
Yeah i hear you. I used to stream a lot on yt. What sucks is, that anytime u need to change something, and it resends a notif to someone, it can seem spammy and ppl will turn off notifications to ur channel sadly.
I agree, I love the platform more then twitch but only the really super active people get noti I think which is horrible if you are not a grinder on streams on youtube, so it doesnt really encourage you if you dont do it a lot, but I think discoverability is kind of bad on both right now, but hey I think you need to feel the grind is worth it anyhow in the end, but likelyhood of living on it is such a small chance that most should probably just skip it and do it for a some kind of side income, 😎
Funny that you criticize the missing discoverability on Twitch, while it is that what I think is the biggest game-breaker when it comes to streaming on RUclips. To find a live-stream on RUclips that fits your taste is just horrible. That's why I still watch Videos on RUclips and Streams on Twitch, because on Twitch I always find a cool streamer that fits easily.
This is not a platform issue though? Just that the streamer is bad.
@@alexmarquay No, its just hard to find people or good live streaming on RUclips, it isn't a "streamer bad" issue.
Yeah, I tried to find people streaming specific games on RUclips and it's just impossible.
I’ve been on almost every platform, I’m currently on Facebook, RUclips and Twitch and it’s def a different experience on all 3.
Only issue I have with facebook is lack of low latency streaming.
🐐 of this streaming stuff
🔥
I've been on 7 different platforms and currently trying out glimesh as well and I stream to mtiple platforms at the same time using restream
I wanted to do Facebook. I don’t like my Fanpage had to be linked to my personal page.
Interesting video! Thanks for sharing your move from Twitch to YT for streaming. I wish you had gone into some detail on whether to leave livestreams public, private, unlisted or avoid streaming on YT in general for established creators on this platform. I moved to Twitch because in 2018 it seemed like every time I would go live on YT my channel momentum would completely die, videos would not get recommended, people wouldn't get notified, etc because stream were tied to the same algorithm as videos so total watch time and % viewed on stream would kill my channel's performance. You said YT you feel like you have a lot of room for creativity. That's exactly the opposite sentiment I have. Twitch for me is that exact place where I can do whatever I want, have fun with it, and my business isn't impacted in a negative way simply because went out of the niche I was in.
Its a shame because no matter how much livestreaming improves on YT, it will be incredibly hard to gain. back my trust that the moment I hit go live, my views wont drop by over 50% for a weeks weeks after that livestream. However, I miss one very important thing from YT streaming: The encoding features! Twitch caps you at a 6k bitrate and YT at 144k!? Twitch needs to catch up with the times, especially since they are dedicated to livestreaming!
Osnap. It's one of my favor dr2 content maker.
@@Z28Gaming RUclips confirmed that's not what happens here
I was thinking about using twitch for livestream and RUclips for making videos.
i been on youtube for 2 years, you moving to youtube made me real happy when almost everyone else is moving to twitch. sorry to hear that youve lost alot on the switch but i do agree with you that i also think its the better long term place to be. bravo
You’ve reminded me of a very valuable lesson today and that is thinking long term. When you mentioned about the difficulty of getting monetisation on RUclips over Twitch it made so much more sense so thank you for bringing that to light. Your long term outlook really helps and I’m inspired by you to think about things that way too :D great video, thank you!
"Let me explain why I can afford to lose $10,000 in revenue."
"But first, unrelated, let's talk about my sponsor."
“unrelated”
Harris has his main revenue stream built outside of his youtube content. His Streambeats platform makes him over 50k a month in revenue. He can afford the hit even without sponsors.
Thanks a lot. This is really useful insight. Even as I’m working on growing on Twitch I anticipate eventually making it more of a secondary platform if not completely eliminating it altogether if it doesn’t die off before then. I’ve never experienced a platform dying underneath me firsthand, but Vine and Mixer still taught me a lot of lessons about taking platform stability seriously.
One thing YT needs to fix ASAP is making a video channel not be negatively impacted by live streams, and vice versa, so that you don't need to split your audience.
facts. more negative than positive rn.
@@vyberson s
I think if u put ur livestreams as unlisted after ur stream is done then ur videos won't be affected cuz valkyrae does that n courageJD as well
This is facts man.
"I only lost $10,000" Biggest Flex Ever...
Not a flex... He worked hard to make music we all can USE for free. He use to make $2000 a month like most other people.
@@NovaDoll Yeah... Still a flex, a millionaire can work hard for their money, but if they are flexing it then it still counts as "flexing".
Also, this comment is a joke.
What is $10,000? I've never seen that in person
@@iinuked9543 Us.
@@NovaDoll he didn't make the music he comissioned it, that's like thanking the label for taking advantage of desperate artists. He got rich off the back of fiver producers lol they don't see a penny because he knows they had no leverage to negotiate ownership. He's literally just acting as a label, and a predatory one at that.
You’re a smart and fortunate dude. We are an equally fortunate community to have you. Continue to spread your innovation to RUclips if they will listen. They have always been a few focused features away from fostering a community more effectively.
No ads on my RUclips live streams. Bro this really spoke to me!!!! As soon as I got monetized I thought that everything should have ads on them including live streams but it actually makes SO much sense to turn those off especially when you’re smaller like me because it is so much more important for people to see my content and have a good first impression and not be tempted to leave if they’re greeted with an ad. The more and more I watch your vids the more I am thinking I should put the brakes on Twitch, which I JUST started and focus more on building my RUclips live streaming! Thanks man 🙏🏾
As a small creator that Shorts discovery is playing a huge role in my livestreams. I went from am average of 10 views to 40-70 just by having those supplemental shorts. I wish twitch had better discoverability tools.
Should i stream on youtube than?
The Answer: TWITCH
My region [Jordan] Does not support Super Chat or all the streaming perks, only last week we got the Channel Memberships option, Super chat has been coming soon since 2018...
Yep, people in Middle Eastern communities have less growth potential, it's harder to maintain a channel on RUclips when you can barely earn off of it.
Holy heck, you're one of my faves SoT content creators, I didn't know you're from Jordan. The inter-webs makes this world seem much smaller than it actually is.
@@hazmat7995 hello 😊
Ive heard you can implement streamlabs to have donations sent through?
I'm also taking the dive, I'm thinking long term and the direction twitch is going in atm scares me. Happy, excited and really nervous to start going full time on RUclips! Thank you for breaking down the pro's and cons Harris; no doubt this will help a lot of people make a good decision.
Thanks for all the videos you make, it’s super helpful for newcomers like me to learn quickly, plus you’re great to listen to!
When I started making content almost a year ago, I chose RUclips because I was in for the long haul and streaming was never the priority. It has always been supplementary to my other content.
I'm almost halfway to the partner requirements and I couldn't be happier! I've only been given around $6-$10 over that whole time in tips, but I'm aiming for that RUclips ad revenue and memberships!
we are about at the same point in our ''YT journeys'', I gave you a sub good luck man. ^^
Positioning the Ad right after saying you dropped 80% in revenue, that was goat 🐐
I agree, I think youtube will put more into the live-streaming experience and improving that bc they seemed to get quick on the shorts and stories side as well. I think youtube needs to figure a way for creators to easily organize their uploads tab and live streams more separately as well to appeal to the ordinary creator on yt tho.
i started yt in 2010. in 2014 i started streaming on yt, in 2016 i went to twitch for opportunity. i would also do youtube as well. as it went on i sided more and more with twitch because my growth and how good it was doing, eventually it fell, i switched back to youtube at the end of last year because i feel the same way, twitch is gonna fall ONE DAY. for the same reason snapchat did. my audience and revenue DROPPED SOOO MUCH especially since im not big named or have a HUGE Community. but i see it slowly coming back and i can see YT becoming great to stream on. i love watching your videos, were on like the same level and track and when i hear you say what i was thinking, it makes me happy and keeps me motivated to stay on track!
From my experience, I see two major issues
1 - youtube doesn't even tell subscribers that a stream is happening. The home screen is saturated with non-relevant content, it doesn't update the subscribed list to tell subs about streams (that red dot doesn't appear). On a desktop it's simply an obtuse platform. Twitch does this way better.
2 - Then there's the analytics part: streaming CTR and video CTR interact with each other when it's wildly different content. Streams will then impact video impressions. When the stream is turned off, youtube will then push it to viewers as if it were a video, cranking a huge number of impressions that wont be clicked, because a stream has almost zero huge after ending, lowering the CTR even more!
The BIGGEST issue for not streaming on YT must be the layout. Twitch is miles ahead of YT in that department. And even the nicknaming part.
I feel that way, Twitch is very well designed, organized, and intuitive for just jumping in and streaming. Sometimes streaming on YT feels like a second class citizen......although many people say streaming here for a while boosted their growth a ton. Since those people were already loyal to the platform. Problem is YT needs to monetize live streams better too.
Waited for this Video so long! And yeah, I think you're absolutely right. You should stream where your audience is! Pick the main platform like YT, Twitter, Insta, or whatever, and then just engage where your audience already is. Transform your audience to another platform won't be the way to go in the next years.
I had this thought myself, nice to see im not the only one thinking it. You definitely helped me with direction here
On the subject of the future of live-streaming, I believe that if it continues as you are predicting then the quality of live-streams will need to be vastly improved. No more sitting and just chatting, I think the only live-streams that will survive on platforms like RUclips, Instagram or Facebook will be ones that have a purpose. For example, live performances of music or shows. Or something more like the Joe Rogan Experience, where there are guests and specific topics. As you mention, people come to platforms like YT for clean, polished videos that serve a purpose. That’s not always the case on Twitch, people there generally just wanna hang out.
So crazy you post this video, I was literally just asking myself that. Im excited to watch!
Great honest info here for sure Thanks & hope you meet your goals.
100% agree with you! I'm new and trying to make it. Love the vid!
As someone who is about to start streaming for the first time, this is encouraging that RUclips (YT) is probably the best way to go (for now). Thanks for the information and best of luck (re)growing your streaming community here on YT. 👍
As a newbie youtuber, I make videos but I feel I am underperforming myself and wanted to do streams as well and make stories of my Minecraft SMP server, but I was confused between RUclips and Twitch. Many suggested Like the pros you mentioned for Twitch, I was tempted to go on Twitch, but I also felt the same about your thoughts on the "long term stay" and RUclips felt like the better one, so here I am. =)
Thanx for sharing your insights! I'm a mediaprofessional myself and really like the way you think about platforms etc. Keep it up!
I love how transparent you are with everything you do!
Wait... Is this the last video in the hold home? Neat!
I find the biggest difference between me streaming on Twitch vs RUclips is that on twitch people tend to interact more. I don't have a big channel because it just do it for fun but if 1 or 2 people are watching on Twitch they tend to chat and ask questions and I get the interaction so I'm not just talking to myself the whole time. On RUclips if I have 1 or 2 people watching, no chat at all. They don't even say hi. So I just talk to myself, and I can only keep that going so long before I just think I'm getting annoying.
Exactly my problem lol i just feel like am getting super annoying or they think am werid or something its like bruh you gonna say something lol
Hey bro I’ll follow u on ur twitch. And u show me the same love. @walkdastreets12. Let me know.
As someone who is literally just starting to get into content creation I think you may have just sold me on doing in on RUclips. Thank you.
I've been using Shorts on the weekend when I don't stream, full of highlights from streams during the week & they've been growing my channel a lot faster than just streaming which is what i used to do. It's very nice to have everything all together on one channel. Being on RUclips for just over a year now and it's really been one of the best choices i made, I hate trying to find good streamers to watch on Twitch as well without going in there and wondering why so many people are actually watching this person because half the time it doesn't even feel like a interactive experience.
As for upcoming features. They finally are adding a Sub only mode to RUclips Live which is something i've been wanting for a long time, let's hope they look at gifting memeberships soon too!
YT is not a live streaming platform, which is why from a viewer's perspective (at least for me) is horrible, tiny chat, distracting recommended videos directly below, no global emotes, bad discoverability, and an overall empty/awkward experience. Not to mention a live stream feels like you're watching any other video. They should refresh the UI to separate a normal video from a live stream.
Actually there are global emotes, they're just not as trendy as Twitch's. Also, I'm a little confused about your comment about YT's chat. I find its size very comparable to Twitch on the computer or mobile. As for discoverability, I regularly have brand new people coming into my streams.
But I agree, they could definitely improve the UI moving forward👍
@@BrknLaw Guessing the channel must enable global emotes, cause when l go to a random stream it's only emojis and/or the locked channel emotes.
The chat is a small short box on the right of the player compared to the long one on Twitch that uses the whole real estate (from top to bottom), Harris has pointed this out before. Theatre mode and full screen both get rid of chat which is ridiculous.
Discoverability is bad, you have new people in your streams most likely because your videos are recommended to them, they subscribe, then get notified that you're live, otherwise, they probably wouldn't find you.
It's dumb how there are 2 live sections on the left panel on the homepage (Gaming and Live). Why not make 1 section that's easier to find and browse?
@@smartalic5 totally fair 😁👍 but when I'm talking about new people in my streams, it's their first time encountering my channel at all because they were just looking for a live stream going. So pros and cons for sure!
Like you said at the start, I go to different platforms for different things. If I find someone in one place I’ll follow them everywhere I want to including Twitch. I don’t go to other places to watch streams 🤷🏻
Thanks for all the great info. I think I'm going to aim for RUclips in the long run!
Great video! Thanks for being so open
Appreciate you sharing your insight on youtube vs twitch.
Harris I love how honest you are with your audience
I’m trying to get into streaming myself and this kinda broke down the basics for me and taught me with stuff like this you have to think not in the present but the future. Great video I appreciated 👍🏽
Thank you so much for this video, I've been struggling with which to start live streaming on and was leaning towards RUclips and you sealed the deal! :)
I am shocked that you did not mention not even as an inconvenience, the censorship aspect on Twitch that is a billion time worse than RUclips.
Maybe because he's PG af?
What kind of things can you do on youtube that you cant on twitch? I may not know bc i guess im pretty tame, but does youtube explicitly allow things that twitch disallows?
@@Artbug go on the list of things, and words that will get you banned even if u use them in context, and not against another streamer, do not get me wrong RUclips is very bad, but Twitch somehow it actually a lot worse...
@@Artbug The main difference is Twitch has active humans that moderate twitch channels (not the twitch chat mods chosen by channel owners, actual twitch-wide mods). This allows for personal judgement by the moderators on top of twitch's general rules. Some people claim twitch has power hungry and/or biased mods. YT, on the other hand, is a robot that may or may not demonetize your content for some random reason that may or may not have anything to do with anything at all. It's not the smartest of robots. It is, however, extremely 'strict' in the sense that it does not have an opinion. It either censors because you broke the rules, or it censors because it thinks you did. It's judgement is 100% punitive and final.
@@n0madtv I actually think that's a good thing. Twitch is WAY too inconsistent because people moderating the site have different opinions, and not to mention they almost ALWAYS neglect to tell you the reason you were banned. How can someone make changes or improve if they don't know assuming it was for a good reason? If I get banned or shut down on RUclips, I trust their reasoning more because it's unbiased since a robot is doing it.
I love twitch and on one hand I could see it becoming less viable as the years go on and as other companies innovate enough to include most of its key components. Equally though I could also see it blowing up and being (like it is for me) the next big thing and becoming an almost alternative to TV. Traditional Television and Services like Sky are pulling less and less views yearly as other more convenient ones take its place (netflix etc...) and there's something so easy and unique in twitch I think other platforms might struggle to compete with.
Great points about Twitch. I currently stream to Twitch but the discoverability on it seems like an impossible mountain to climb but on RUclips if you make great content and are entertaining then you can gain subs so quickly.
Totally glad I saw this video, as I was wondering which one would be better to stream on!
I'll just stick to RUclips when I start streaming games then. Thanks for the advice!
Watched the entire video, and still am shocked that you willingly went from $15K/mo to $3K.
Anyway, this is a good and informative video. I’ve been questioning whether I should be on Twitch or a different platform. Not sure I want to go to RUclips Live (personal reasons), but have considered looking into other platforms.
I agree completely. It makes sense. Im on youtube now trying to do my own gaming and slice of life channel and it makes sense to just have it all in one place with my streaming. Just have to take the risk.
i appreciate this info. was thinking of using two platforms for edits vids and live streams but now i might start with youtube for both
Great content! I always find these really interesting.
This is the earliest I've been since catching my wife with the neighbor!
Lol 🤣🤣🤣
*salutes 😩
Yoo 😂😂
Someone just won their Divorce
Yeah, sorry about that...
I’ve only recently discovered you and thought you’d just stopped streaming all together because you’d not been on twitch. I’ll definitely look forward to checking out the RUclips streams and seeing what it’s all about!
Good points! Gonna keep it in mind when i get big🔥🔥
From what I noticed is this. I found youtube easier to grow while streaming when starting out compared to twitch. I feel like twitch has an algorithm that isn't the best for people starting out compared to RUclips where I see myself getting more people in streams. My plan is to grow my yt channel first because streams do count towards watch hours for monetization and later on once I build my audience and if everyone was happy I would switch to twitch
Wait what!? Live streams on RUclips counts towards watch time ??
I tried that it didn't work
Please make a "how to get started on RUclips" video. It's truly the largest inhibitor for me since most of these style are old and outdated.
@@rellosorrello6126 yes and those dont show how to go from nothing to live on youtube. they just show for making youtube.
@@TheGotbooze simply start. No one knows what makes you yourself. If your having fun and adjusting your content as you get better thats what counts.
@@uhpurpose I agree with that just do what you want
Been on your channel for almost 2 years. Binge watching your videos. And now starting to see that dedication and good content is what evolves you not only as a content creator but also as a person! Very cool to see you go on your journey! Made someday we'll meet at the top!
Keep it going Streamdoc!
Greeting Ragga
This is some amazing information. I'm past the prime of being able to start streaming but this is really informative of where the future is going. I may have to start checking out some youtube streamers. I'm a diehard twitch viewer, but you bring up a lot of good points for why YT may be the future.
So only thing I see as an issue is he named all those platforms that revolve around a specific type on media consumption, but then said "they are making streaming services". So he admits no one BUT Twitch only focus is streaming. And Twitch will just copy someone else's is doing if it is successful. They did it to Mixer. Granted it took awhile. But they did it non the less.
I made the transition from twitch to RUclips, and all I have to say is, I Love it!!! Remember to just keep striving and never give up❤ we got this guys 💪
I’m making the switch to RUclips I think it fits me more than twitch
3:48 ye of course thats how it should be.. I've been streaming for over 3 years on youtube and I'm super thankful for the donos I did get but I always told viewers to only donate if they're 100% sure... cause is their money
You literally just spoke to the inner me and helped me make my decision. Thank you! For real bro and I appreciate you and Sam for teaching this young Jedi!
Honestly, as a viewer, I like twitch so much more as a platform both due to its community and features (better chat, lower delay, emotes, gift subs, channel points, raids, BTTV/FFZ) that if my favorite twitch twitch streamers moved to youtube, I would probably stop watching them and watch other twitch streamers. There's not much difference if you want to passively watch streams, but any kind of interaction with streamers or other viewers is way better on twitch, so exactly the same content creator is way more boring to watch on youtube.
If youtube improved its algorithm for live streaming, gave them money, and improved the chat experience (like overhauling the whole thing), then many people would probably switch from twitch to YT.
6:38 I appreciate your honesty about not being able to see the future. Some videos (including the news) are so certain about what will happen.
I have been debating for a very long time on going LIVE. I have both platforms but no LIVE streams and the hardest thing is taking that leap. I'm going to choose YT and start this weekend. I have all the equipment but taking that first step is somewhat trepidating. Thank you for this video.
Honestly I’m thinking I will do both. Once a week on my second streaming channel on RUclips, and during the week I am going to just stream for fun on Twitch.
I plan to multistream. Granted I'm not even an affiliate on Twitch, and I have no plans to pursue that. Affiliates should be allowed to multistream. Twitch makes it easier to become affiliate because they want to lock you in. The moment you become an affiliate, Twitch has the idea that you're potential revenue for them and are gambling on your success. If your channel explodes in viewership, they already got you locked in. It's like they're trying to hold on to their monopoly in the streaming space with a death grip, and it works for them.
@@tyisafk Yea it’s a weird system. I have really been growing my main channel here on RUclips so I’m just going to do the streams as a bonus for my core fans and keep them relevant to my niche. Then I can just stream whatever I feel like over in the purple place.
There are some very solid points here. I think I'm gonna make the switch from twitch! I have a very small following on twitch seeing as I just started a few months ago. It seems like the better move to make. Thanks Harris for keeping honest ans providing this information to us!!
@itsElonzo that is very true I don't think I've seen any live streams just pop up on my feed.
Great vid - well considered points thanks for sharing!
Man I know this is a old video but you are my go to when it comes to streaming either twitch or yt thanks for your work
Do you ever feel worried that you're putting all your eggs in one basket? I thought about making the switch but I'm also a RUclips content creator . And seeing the recent terminations on RUclips. And knowing the uncertainty of what may happen on your stream that is uncontrollable. If RUclips terminate you all your channels go down. And all your viewership is gone. Which if you streamed on twitch and got terminated on RUclips you always have your twitch viewers.
hope to be able to stream soon 👻
Love your videos and been really helpful in my journey to start a RUclips channel. Also very informative for when I eventually decide to stream
Insightful vid Harris, tanks homie. And shoutout to your editor cause they are a badass.
Didn't you just moved to RUclips like yesterday? Damn, times fly by so fast
I heard Valkyrae talking about how RUclips is working on gifted members
People willing to spend long amounts of time on your stream are definitely the only people who will purchase a subscription type plan, makes sense because they are your most hardcore fans and they get more interactions with you. Twitch really got it right with that aspect. More people have to challenge and change the ecosystem for it to be a reality, because if 30% of people jump off stream once an ad runs........there is little hope to monetize a stream (that's already long) outside of donations/subscriptions.
@@TheSoulCrisis Yeah ik😂
@@rishlyc The pain lol
I totally agree with you. I want to start streaming and I wasn't sure which one to use. I'm pretty sure I'll go with youtube. Long term is the goal. Can't wait to see one of your live streams!
Good info. Thanks for putting into words what I've been thinking for a long time.
HEY HARRIS HELLER!! disclaimer: too long to read
I've watched tons of your RUclips videos. I am even watching this as I type. but I had to pause just to say this. while watching your vids -- coming up to this point, I can't help but realize that you have this impact of "hhmmm. this dude looks like he's just literally streaming as a source of income" -- absolutely nothing wrong with that at all. hey. you have to live. you do you. but. have you ever streamed just for the "fun" of it? seriously.. call me old school but I still believe that streaming was built for people who really enjoy what they are doing and having the privilege of them being shown in the world and also earning at the same time. think about it this way.. basketball players -- do you go to the NBA with the idea because it pays? probably not... you pursue that because you really wanna play and you believe that it is the ultimate platform to play basketball, right? kinda like what I'm pointing here. --- do you stream just for the "financial" benefit of it?
Twitch just gunna be hot tub streams and Asmongold - everyone's fav neck beard :)
I do agree. There's so much that twitch could add to make the platform so much better. And im sure youtube will add what they're missing. Like gifted members and I could see them doing something similar to bits as well.
Thank you for your very informative video I'm a new streamer and trying to learn what I can the right way lol and not just jump into it so I appreciate having a look at where things might be headed with the streaming future
I much prefer RUclips.
But god I wish discovery was easier...
Oooof turning off ads is a big plus. Appreciate the content as always man.
I thought you can choose when to run ads on twitch... Or is that only as partner? Or is that initial ad when you enter a stream mandatory?
@@Artbug if you don't have turbo you always get ads when first clicking on a user.
i really enjoyed watching this, it's a good perspective, thank you for sharing!!