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Pedro Pascal is basically becoming the Hugo Weaving of the 2020s and I'm HERE FOR IT
I hope the people who treated the Marvels unfairly realize how good of a female led cast we had in that movie and how it came together in comparison to the poorly engineered Madame Webb cast and storyline.
Love the F4 Poster ❤️ Joseph Quinn & Tom Holland are only 2yrs apart in age, can see them having great chemistry together! Ebon Moss-Bachrach will knock it out of the park as Ben Grimm & actually elevate the character! Vanessa Kirby is a great pick for Sue, can do drama & action; and Pedro is a great solid anchor for the group! Madame Web is currently @16% RT (3.6/10) & 30/100 on Metacritic. Can Sony pls stop making these movies as they unfortunately add to the general overall feeling of superhero fatigue?! Really hope SJ Clarkson isn't badly hurt by this & how do writing duo Burk Sharpless & Matt Sazama keep getting work (Dracula Untold, The Last Witch Hunter, Gods of Egypt & Morbius)?!
I don’t think I’ve ever watched a video on YT that had me saying amen so often. You guys are so right about people’s perspectives about Phase 1, as well as the meaningless “that’s trash, bro!” social posting. So says a grumpy old man! 😅
F4 being possibly being set in the 60s is honestly the most exciting aspect of the movie to me 🤷🏻♂️
Yeah, that makes two of us if you read the Kirby comics..😇
30:45 OMG I love that you guys are bringing this up. Maybe it’s because I’m in your same age ranges but I agree 1000% about the rose colored glasses about the previous MCU phases. It’s very much so comparable to the Star Wars phenomenon in many ways.
I was old enough to remember how much criticism those first 3 phases of the MCU received. So it’s very surprising to hear how people are going out of their way to act like phase 4-5 have shown some significant departure in terms of quality when, in my eyes, it’s about the same. The only difference being the quantity of projects are so high that it makes it harder to appreciate the great stuff.
For example:
Shang-Chi, Doctor Strange 2, Loki, Werewolf by Night, Spider-Man NWH, Wakanda Forever, Guardians 3 and Holiday Special, What If, Moon Knight, Wandavision, Hawkeye --All of them were really damn good; but yet it feels like everyone on social media wants to spend 100x more time whining about She-Hulk, Secret Invasion, Ant-Man 3, and The Marvels as if Marvel is dying off the cliff all of a sudden. There's a clear imbalance in viewpoints across the fanbase and it's almost petty.
well put. this is what i’ve been thinking for a while but you articulated it very well
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Why is she hulk and the marvels are your “bad MCU” list?
Vanessa Kirby is the perfect Sue Storm. Her roles in the Crown and Mission: Impossible alone make the case for her covering the bases, from family drama, to intelligent suspense.
Rosamund Pike would've been that perfect Sue.
Agustin speaking facts about certain MCU “fans”.
The hateful "criticism" of MCU movies, even if it's just referring to a poster or a trailer without even seeing the movie, is why I've deleted all social media. There's only so many negative buzzwords thrown at your face before you call it quits
So excited about Ebon Moss-Bachrach.
His Micro in Punisher is one of the most loveable characters IMHO.
I love Micro! I feel like the character is so overlooked in conversations.
Having watched the first season of the Punisher show and a fan of not..I totally didn't recognize Ebon on The Bear.
Maybe you mix both the 60s and present in. The F4 and Victor are in the present trying to recreate time travel. The F4 get sent to the 60s in an accident that also gives them their power and they have to find a way back. Victor gets sent back farther and lands in a midevil European country and learns the sorcery needed to live forever.
Exactly! I liked the idea that I was hearing that the F4 movie could be a time travel movie, imagine if they travelled to multiple points including the 60s, went back to Ancient Egypt and tangled with Rama Tut or into the far future and met Nathaniel Richards for instance.
The real MVP of this Super Bowl was the Nickelodeon broadcast. I never knew that I needed Dora and Bots explaining the rules of the game. The whole production from top to bottom was spectacular. I want all of my Super Bowls to be simulcast like that.
Super excited for this Fantastic Four cast and the possibilities. The 60's will be a fun place to kick things off. Interested to see how they get from there to the current MCU.
The introduction of the Fantastic Four and Doctor Doom in a post-Sacred Timeline multiverse makes perfect sense. Reed and Victor would have been obvious threats to Kang, so prune them or displace them in time. I love the 60s aesthetic. The boldness and optimism, particularly of the Camelot era really suits them. But, maybe it turns out to be where they were put rather than where they're from. Or, maybe the FF were time and dimension travelers rather than space travelers, and that's the flight they went on that resulted in their powers.
are these still being put on spotify?😁
The cast of ‘The Fantastic Four’ is so awesome! With regard to fan casting, I love the idea of Jonathan Groff as Dr. Doom.
Waiting to get my tickets for the Madame Web re-release in June!
Jack Kirby was a legit badass. Because he could draw, they made him a scout when he was a soldier in WWII. Imagine repeatedly going behind Nazi lines to collect intel especially as a Jewish man.
in my hometown, we don't have ppl selling flowers on VDay. We have ppl selling tamales.
Listening to you guys talk about the possibility of the different time periods gave me a thought. What if they are from the 2020s, but the thing that gives them powers also sends them back to the 60s. So not only do they get to be Marvel's first family, but they have to figure out how to get home without modern tech. It could also create a branch timeline outside the 616, so their presence isn't an issue.
Marvel ff Mr f play non temporary go comics book act look like comic 😊
It's like a clip from Gabriel Iglesias where he was wearing a Marvel Tshirt and his step sons friend points and goes weak DC's better but has a difficult time trying to say why it's better when Gabriel asks him why
The boys are back!!
Saw Tenet during the original release in cinemas after hearing a buncha complaints that it was too complicated; watched it like a David Lynch, just here for the experience, not to try and understand it. Had a great time and the plot felt almost too simple. But have since rewatched it, both consciously and not attempting to nitpick the plot and have found it mind-meltingly confusing.
I love your guys' channels, since you're a positive force on the internet (I basically get all my nerdy fixes from you guys and star wars explained). Too many steroid-filled bro-dudes (not naming names) have huge channels just spewing hate on things they claim to love (they say they "defend it" - though they seem focused on "defending it" from women and diversity/representation). Keep up the great work guys!
@Evzsz Then you need to watch their watch-a-long of Morbius, or just to the end of this when they talk about Madame Web. They're quite clearly not in the "everything is awesome" category of people.
I'm with you on the positive bandwagon. More content like Heroes Reforged, New Rockstars, Screencrush, Reel Rejects. Less incel-bro-stuff!
@Evzsz The homies are absolutely critical of plenty of films and shows - the difference is that they're usually critical in a constructive way rather than just shitting all over things with no explanation or support for such unhelpful, stunted opinions. If you can't see that difference then you need to re-evaluate your perspective.
someone hasnt been watching our content and making big assumptions
I feel like Hector is overthinking the 60s possibility.
Hi fellas, hope everything is going well. I am very new to your channel but I do know Hector from you rockstar and I truly enjoy your three man dynamic just a quick comment and I’m curious if you guys read this or any of your followers read this I would like to know if, what you think for the fantastic for if you think the idea of having them as an already established married couple family for this first movie coming out or for the first movie have them more as a team unit dynamic but the romance between Reed and Sue is not actually present yet. It’s just something that would develop later very much like I know that I think of it in like the idea of what happened with Star, Lord and Gamora
51:05 "What I'm saying, though, is for the Thor cast..."
Sounds like either a great pun or the name of a podcast.
What's the Thorcast today? Love and thunder, baby!
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Welcome to the Thorcast. I'm your host, Thor Odinson, and today we're going to be talking about my adventures again...
The internet (especially after Covid) has turned into a rage farm. Only negative content gets attention at this point. So calling everything trash and everything (mid) is the new wave.
Hector don’t tease me with a Winter Soldier movie like that. I would love for Ed Brubaker’s Winter Soldier comics with Black Widow to be made into a movie or show Disney+ show.
My guys…y’all are the best.
Wow, not used to seeing you all together in one room😂🤣😂🤣
Hector convinced me! Roast my theory, Mepishto takes control over the Baxter Building as CEO and then yeah, that’s all I got but something can happen from that 🤷🏽♂️
"They're from the '60s."
By that logic, all of the MCU should be set in the '60s. Fantastic Four, Spider-Man, Hulk, The Avengers, Silver Surfer... all of the big Marvel characters were created in the '60s.
This is just my guess but I think that F4 will be from modern era SWORD astronauts. I think however they get there powers shoots them into a different timeline or era (60's). And they have to try to get back.
I don’t expect much from this new FF, but I would love to feel the same way I did watching original GUARDIANS OF THE GALAXY …..loved the characters and the story….make me care about the characters and just enjoy the overall story….
Geez, I didn’t realize I’m gonna make so many comments. I didn’t realize I had this much to say also the casting of Pedro Pascal I also had was kind of weird only because I’m used to read Richard’s being a thin, tall person to mimic his ability to stretch, but the idea of Pedro Pascal, height and size and then having the ability to stretch actually kinda works pretty OK for me in my head
I feel that hectors point is valid about the F4 being of today and not the 60s. My counter point to that though is that with the F4 they can do the opposite of what Steve rogers was. Steve was a man out of time and when brought to the present he brought his 40s ideals with him, they changed and altered slightly since he woke up but he was still Steve at his core. With the F4 they can flip and have it where yes they are from the 60s but their ideals and minds are that of the modern day. They come from a time where their intelligence and thoughts and ideas were too radical to the people of that time and they were shunted and disgraced for it. Much like real scientist have been throughout human history. And when they finally get to the modern day it will be as if time caught up with them as opposed to them catching up with time.
Exactly ，their presence are in the past but their mind is in the future
Which makes me think of Future Foundation
So now I'm curious why actors would ever sign up for future Sony superhero projects. They know it would be a disaster creatively, kill their option for action genres, etc. unless it would be their first break what's their incentive?
When Galactus turns up in this movie, maybe he can kick Arishem's ass on his way to Earth. Where the hell is Arishem anyway?
I am on that camp that is somewhat disappointed Pedro was cast as Reed and it's exactly because of what Adam said. He's in too many of the things I watch. I fear I'm going to be looking at him and seeing Joel or Mando. And I know he's gonna crush it. He's awesome. It's definitely a personal issue rather than an issue with Pedro and I believe it's the same for most people that find themselves questioning his casting.
He won't...none of his acting screams smart man
You guys should see Monarch. After Wandavision and Monarch, i trust Matt Shakman to do something amazing.
Person who said Pedro isn't sexy, send them to me. Have they watched him as The Viper. What the actual blue hell.
I don't see why having them from the 60s is such a problem. I haven't heard a good argument about it. It could be a parallel universe set in the 60s. That explains them being missing in the timeline. The whole movie could be set in that universe and they could easily have their home universe destroyed by an incursion, and they land here now after that. Easy
I watched Madame web movie,But i really liked Madame web in spider man animated series.
I hate I missed the live, but 40s hit hard. lol. I love the casting for Fantastic 4. I am so ready to see what Deadpool in the MCU has to bring. I am not a least bit surprised the Madame Web is awful because that trailer spoke volumes! lol
The movie will be partially based on the FF#48 comic from 1966, Doctor Doom is more likely to be introduced, I hope Disney won't mess up the project. I was against ''Redro Rascal'' and all this chronic, ''flatulencial fancasting'' ever since the rumors started to kick in. I liked Krasinski and a few others but not the overall craziness about it. Now all I care about is to watch a good movie with quality storytelling, quality writing, quality everything, a movie worthy of its characters history and legacy. I grew up reading FF comics, they're my favorite superhero team of all time, I mean they're the freakin' founding members of the Marvel Universe ! Mr Pascal will always be compared to the Krasinski cameo but people will forget about it if the movie turns out to be a huge hit.. I hope this flick gets filled with the wonder, energy and excitement about mankind's future that the 60s era brought when this comic was first published. The Fantasticar should look like a bathtub for a while before they change it. Hopefully Willie Lumpkin will be a part of the film looking like Willie Lumpkin, a Stan Lee/Jack Kirby cgi cameo/reference would be more than neat too..
Wow I'm so glad I'm not planning to see Madame Web, does not interest me. Loving the cast for Fantastic Four, agree about the negativity I see online. This was a great time
Regarding beard or no beard for Reed, if it’s based in the 60s, I think he would initially be clean shaven according to the grooming standards of that time.
I grew up on phase 1, I was 9 when the avengers came out. It’s my all time favorite movie, but to be honest with you, I absolutely love almost all the mcu movies. I love both the first Thor and love and thunder. I don’t get why people shit on everything they see . If you don’t like it move on.
I reject the notion that the 60s were a simpler time and I'd hate for the MCU to portray them that way. The 60s were a decade filled with incredible scientific breakthroughs. I too want us to steer away from anti-intellectualism. My perfect F4 adaptation is a hard sci-fi story not unlike Remembrance of Earth's Past.
I realized that for this movie Sony throws the Marvel logo and say from the world of Marvel in promos. It’s like they are doing to leach the extra couple bucks they can off the Marvel name but all it does is hurt the MCU by making it appear that it’s a MCU movie and oh it’s not great and MCU should stop making movies.
Can't wait to see the rewatch or new watch of Madame Spider-Man: The Telepathic Time Travelling Woman Spider-Man (I believe that's the Russian title translation lol) when that comes on blu-ray...big ups keep doing ya dam thang my bruddhas
Ignoring the universe implications of FF being in the 60's, a Matt Shakman stylised 60s movie like A Hard Days Night but with the FF sounds awesome to me and is kinda what I hope the film is for at least half the film.
Frame their origin by having them on a 60s late night talk show, have them recording songs with the Beatles. I'm picturing Forest Gump style but with the FF
My suggestion would be that they will be from the 60s but it’s not about how amazing the 60s are, it’s a subversion of the romanticism you would expect. Reed and the F4 will be too ahead of their time and seen as ridiculous and failures and so they never achieve the reputation that Hank and Howard did, and then eventually even with 60s tech Reed succeeds but it leads them to being stuck in either space or the Negative Zone and so they are just believed to have tragically died or been lost and again not the successful reputation worth remembering.
But then when they get to the modern age they actually feel more at home and Reed sees how modern scientists and thinkers have brought society forward and how this is the time where his ideas will be appreciated.
They also clearly cast in a way where at some point we will see the kids, so considering what era and what future they want their children to be brought up in could be another reason they decide to stay in modern day and NOT go back.
The reverse of Cap where some part of his heart and who he was is always left behind in the past and so he must go back, everyone the F4 loves goes with them into the future.
So there is nothing that would continue to pull them into the past and they can choose to stay in the modern day, and it can be a celebration of modern science and intellectual advancement.
Plus Doom can still have been a contemporary of theirs from the 60s but because of his fascination with magic he hasn’t aged much over the decades and there is lots you could do with Doom thinking Reed and Sue where dead and then having them show up again.
Which could nicely tie into Secret Wars.
I know spending time thinking about how already shot movies would've been better is a waste of time, but I love it haha
How can Madame Web have such a great cast and manage to do NOTHING with it, it's insane.
In my head the movie would've been an origin story for Sydney Sweeney's Julia Carpenter to become the Spider-Woman of the SSU through the eyes and actions of Madame Web (or drop Madame Web at this point and make it a straight up Spider-Woman movie). Sidney Sweeney as the Spider of the SSU, who fights Venom, Morbius and Kraven would've been a first step to make this mess, that Sony calls a universe, better. But Sony has no clue and seemingly no interest in what there are doing so they keep drooling out those things to keep the SM rights and ride the Superhero thing, it's so annoying, exhausting and sad.
I used to love the first Thor. I tried rewatching it a couple years back after I had graduated a course in film making and really didn't like it at well. It has so many dutch tilts that it annoys me.
Dutch tilts already annoyed me on the first viewing
Hi again I was just thinking about it while I was watching your video recapping fantastic four in regards to the whole 60s and present day thing because it is the fantastic four could you just not have them be off world not in another universe but like literally off world doing fantastic four things and that’s just basically where they have been. They could be present day, but they were just essentially gone forthat whole run of the MCU because technically that’s what happened with Miss Marvel. I mean Captain Marvel.
I think this F4 are from the 60s of another Universe. That's why they don't show up before in the MCU
I get the super chat saying that Marvel Studios used to cast lesser known Actors. Pedro is on his hype train for years now, Ebon is hyped af right now and Joseph is still loved from Stranger Things, the only one who isn't on a hype train right now is Vanessa Kirby but she's been a fancast for years. Marvel does that with directors as well, instead of looking for the right one, they tend to hire the ones who are hyed, Chloé Zhao comes to mind. She is a great director, but she made Eternals because Marvel was like "oh shit an Oscar-winning director for one of our movies?! HELL YEA!", not because she was the right fit for the movie.
I criticize MCU projects a lot, not because I hate them, but because I want to love them. I liked Love&Thunder and The Marvels, Marvels isn't a good movie, you can see how too much studio interference destroyed every bit of creativity, directorial vision or risk, they streamlined it into insignificance because they're so afraid to have a another critical and box office flop.
So criticizing the MCU is the right thing to do, talking about what's going wrong is the only way for Marvel to learn. If we're just happy with everything that comes out it'll go downhill. That being said criticizing doesn't mean being a hater, it doesn't mean being an asshole on social media or insulting people involved, I feel like I need to say this because criticism and hate get mixed up a lot which is annoying.
I like the FF cast, I don't feel Joseph Quinn as Johnny that much but except for Stranger Things I haven't really watched him. I guess Johnny in my mind is still the arrogant, good-looking Chris Evans Torch to me and Joseph Quinn doesn't feel like that at all, but let's see I'm happy if he will be able to make it his own thing.
I love the casting of the fantastic four. My only concern is Pedro Pascal. My only concern with him is going to sound so stupid probably but, it is his age. He is 49 years old and is turning 50 this year. Just for the sake of longevity as the character of Reed Richard's and Reeds romantic relationship with Susan Storm one would think you would want someone who is in their mid to late 30s when starting out playing Reed Richard's. Or at most early 40s who can pass off as mid to late 30s. Marvel is going to want the fantastic four to be around for a long time, at least 10 years like they had RDJ for 11 years and Chis Evans for 8 years. And still have the likes of Mark Ruffalo as the Hulk and Don Cheadle as Rhodie/War Machine today. That is probably one of the reasons why they went for a Peter Parker Spiderman who was only 15,16 years old just starting out as Spiderman so they could have Tom Holland who was a little older than that and could play him for possibly 10+ years and not a Peter who was already out of his own in his crappy apartment, working at the Daily Bugle for J3. You can't really do that with someone like Pedro who is already 49 about to be 50. Someone like SLJ as Nick Fury worked because Nick is much more of loner Subtle action sort of side/main character in the MCU unlike Reed Richard's and the rest of the FF4 will be. Like I said before, this also factors into if you are going to have Reed and Susan be a romantic couple ,which you have to, and they end up getting married and they have a kid and Pedro as Reed is 57,58 years old by the time that happens. And age gap between Pedro and Vanessa Kirby is 14 years. I do not know what the exact age difference between Reed and Susan is typically in the comics but I can't see it being that big of a gap. Maybe 8 years max would make any sense considering Vanessa Kirby is 35 years old currently. I know this sounds so stupid but it is literally my only concern about the casting of the FF4, everyone else I have zeros issues or concerns with what so ever.😅
Hey guys, in your opinion, and what you could possibly have a conversation about this later on the channel but what is what is going on with Sony when it comes to the live action stuff in this particular case superheroes can’t seem to get their crap together but the animated stuff is knocking it out of the park. Is it because of the directors, and the people who are coddling and taking care of The spider verse animated stuff that they don’t want them to touch it and mess with it and then the live action they can do whatever they want. I’m not sure although that sounds like what’s going on but I’m very curious to see what you guys think and anybody else in yourwho watches the channel I don’t asshole movie watcher I really don’t understand what’s going on with Sonny
I worry they specifically chose director of Wandavision for ne F4 because he already did Wandavision in many different eras and now F4 is really gonna be set in 60s. I would also prefer for them to be set in modern times.
Contractually, Sony has to make a Spider-Man related movie every 1-2 years or else they lose the rights to Spider-Man.
Man, I love the prequels.
I think it’s absolutely hilarious listening to Hector try to talk himself into a future where a blatantly obvious 60s fantastic4 movie isn’t happening lol. 😂 Hector.. buddy.. it’s in the 60’s pal 🤣
How can the same studio make phenomenal movies like Into and Across the Spider-Verse and then turn around and make horrendous movies Morbius and Madame Web.
Different producers running different divisions haha
Macroverse 😌
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I just can’t with this cast
I hope Marvel casts a European actor for Doom and not an American with a silly accent.
I really want a Romani actor. After the MCU and the Fox films erased Wanda and Pietro's Roma heritage, I really don't want that to happen to Doom as well
I love you guys, and I applaud taking a stand against the disastrous Anti-intellectualism growing in our culture, but the naive presentism I am hearing from Hector (who I admire and appreciate GREATLY) is problematic. Do you really believe that being born say around 1990 automatically guarantees that you are more advanced than if you were born in 1920? In 1964, many U.S. workers could make a living for a family of four. Unions were strong. Citizens were much more well-read -- do you think that, in our culture today, people are more well-read? I can list dozens of other aspects of our society that are seriously lacking in comparison to earlier times. Confusing being clever and technically more sophisticated with WISDOM, we Gen-Xers and Millennials wrongly think we are sharper and more advanced, but things aren't getting better, really. Sure, our technology is superior, and we do enjoy far more abundant opportunities than did earlier times to POTENTIALLY improve the quality of life. But we grow more apthetic, and frankly, more cruel, both as individuals and as a society. We grow colder. Do you really think that the average United States person today understands the technology they use? Or are they just more familiar to be pragmatic with things, not really understanding the world? And how do you qualify advancing?
THe Fantastic Four mean HOPE in the Marvel Universe. Hope springs eternal, so the time they come from isn't as important as who they are. They are the Future Foundation, and the future of solving problems depends more on the courage to challenge ideas and less on the age one belongs to. We have people who lived THOUSANDS of years ago who are still "cutting edge," still challenging us today. If we read more, maybe we would appreciate the unused treasure we stand on.The FF being from the Camelot-era 60s and then time-lost could be a great angle. (Time-lost because of Doctor Doom maybe? When confronted by the reality of a future of Kangs he spies via HIS Time Platform, maybe "hope" to Doom is sending a guilty family of explorers--guilty because of 31st-century Nathaniel RICHARDS--ahead to get Galactus' Ultimate Nullifier to rid reality of the problem?). Think of the Four sent ahead to a dying Multiverse ... they could very well be what Sam Wilson's Avengers need to jumpstart things and think outside the dark box of Incursions and God-Emperors and Battleworld!
Look what was going on in the early 60s. Civil rights breakthroughs. Planning to go to the Moon. Avoiding nuclear war. Marginalized people standing up to be recognized. Women are about to challenge the status quo on their statuses and sexuality in colossal, earth-shattering ways.
And now? Yeah, we TALK a lot about advancing, but in many ways, we see the horrific news of the day (should I list the terrible aspects of our world?) and shrug and turn away helpless, and distract ourselves in our own interests crafting our little fiefdoms in the world, our little Latverias, safe and shut in and solipsistic. No, we need the Fantastic Four! We need to hope again. We need to really THINK DIFFERENTLY again. We need to talk with one another again as a human family despite our squabbles and recognize we are a family. We need to listen to each other actively again.
No, I am good with the Kennedy era, even if mythologized, being the launching pad of the FF into the MCU. And no thank you to this being yet another universe. 616-Strange told 838-Reed Richards, "Fantastic Four... didn't you guys track in the 60s?" How would he know that if Earth-616 didn't have a version of the First Family also, the one featured on this 1964 Valentine's Day card with the LIFE magazine taken from December 63?
I am fine with Reed, Doom, and Ben at college in 1940, learning from great minds like Werner Heisenberg, Pascual Jordan, Wolfgang Pauli, Paul Dirac, Enrico Fermi, Edward Teller, J. Robert Oppenheimer, and Albert Einstein. Not too shabby a group, huh?
I would delight in seeing Reed inspire or teach a young Hank Pym.
Give us a montage of their first adventures in 61, 62, and 63, facing the Mole Man, the Wizard, exploring the ocean with Sue's forcefield instead of submersible (and spied by a hidden Talokonil mutant ruler). Set it all to 'I Want To Hold Your Hand" by the Fab Four.
And then, show us why the FF were missing in action all the years that followed. Have Doom kidnap them to Latveria. Have Doom, the best student of Cogliostro, show them his greatest invention: the Time Platform we've seen repeatedly throughout the Multiverse Saga (LOKI, MULTIVERSE OF MADNESS, QUANTUMANIA). Have Doom blame Reed Richards for his carelessness in the 1960 rocketship adventure with poor shielding that deformed poor Ben Grimm for life. Then have Doom reveal what his time journeys and viewings have shown him, the 31st-century fruit of "Mister Fan-TAS-tic"s hubris: Nathaniel Richards, his descendant, using Doom's Time Platform to make a Dynasty of Kangs and ruin the Multiverse. It's all Richards' fault! And then have Doom manipulate the three against the one, to go on a mission to an alternate future where they will acquire the one device that can unravel this terrible future founded in the Fantastic Four -- the Ultimate Nullifier.
You don't need Doom to be the main villain of THE FANTASTIC FOUR movie to have him initiate that. But you set Doom up to be what he truly is: the GOAT of all supervillains. Maybe we see the older Doom just two months before in THUNDERBOLTS and the end killing the Sentry and hailed by Earth as a new Iron Man, creating a world like ours, mangled like his face and psyche?
And you have the FF warned off by the Watcher who, not unlike a Gandalf-figure, sends the family on a safer path, one that eventually gets the Four to Battleworld... And Doom, fresh out of Ultimate Nullifiers, bides his time in Latveria eventually settling on a more uncontrollable means to obliterate all Kangs: preventing the suicide of the Scarlet Witch (AVENGERS V).
Anyway, too much. Hope can come from earlier times, forgotten wisdom. Please don't forget that. Hector!
You three are great! Thank you for this sharing!
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I understand where you guys are coming from about overreacting to the current MCU, but you gotta admit Thor 4 was a trainwreck. And Ant Man wasnt great either. Marvel's was good. Secret Invasion was really bad too...MCU has been a bit inconsistent lately.
Doing a time piece for the FF after Captain America and Captain Marvel just comes off a bit bland. I can picture the same type of Disney jokes “oh what is this pop culture reference etc”
Hate to break it to you guys they are from the 60s
I reed ff comics ff 60s multi version dr Doom again i disagree Hector 😊
Mr me Mr f not big name love perdo
The 60s is going to play a part in this movie. Just deal with it lol
In what world is Pedro Pascal considered brown 😂, he’s just another white guy, with a Latino seasoning! That’s like saying Anya Taylor Joy & America Ferrera both being considered brown. Ezekiel actor isn’t Latino he’s French-Algerian
Multiverses and time travel have caused the downfall of the MCU and I don't think even DP can save it. Introducing multiverses was a slippery slope and the MCU has fallen.
Umm Doom is in Deadpool 3. Re watch the trailer. There's buzz Julian McMahon is back as Doom.
Well, sure, but those are just references to past versions and not who's going to be Doom in the MCU going forward
That character looks nothing like Doom so it most likely isn’t.
That’s not doom man lol 😂😂
Sony just needs to be stopped man. Or Avi Arad. I have a feeling hes the big issue.
He def is an issue. Just terrible man
British actors carrying Hollywood superhero franchises 🫡 you’re welcome
Héctor stop worrying me. It's going to be great. 🫣