you must understand that the anc is also opening new parties in order to collate with itself in 2024. you will see those parties when they partner with the anc in 2024
Nope, that is not true. The ANC does not survive right now on its tricks of fooling people, its survives because 70% of allegible voters do not vote. What then is left is the 30% pool of voters whom the majority votes for the ANC. ANC cannot even pay its employees how can it waste money and form others parties? Another point is that all the political parties formed speaks against the ANC, its like saying that the ActionSA was formed by the DA.
I think these guys, Bongani, Nobuntu and Songezo, are absolutely great people. I can hear, they love our country immensely. Thanks guys, we are looking forward to your leadership🙏
1. We cannot blame people for thinking of having a political party that they think is a solution to their problem. 2. We cannot blame the people who are already invested in certain already established political parties for suspicion on the formation of new parties. 3. Who funds who is important, however, funding itself is the betrayal of democracy, as it converts a pure democratic process into a commercialized democracy, this results in voters voting for the most visible party rather than for the most objective party. Funding tips the scale of fairness to who has more funds to become more visible, more glamourous. Funding’s most evil twin is the capture of the political party by the big businesses. Conclusion: People learn more with experience/ practicals than with theories. It is a great thing that we have so many parties, for the people to see that, everything political ideology has been tried and tested by political parties and it never worked. It then drives them to think for another solution that has never tried and tested, at the same time it exposes the core flaws of political party politics vs the community politics. In the near future the people will then want to try a political party free politics, which will be the true democracy without funding. PS: I really doubt that the EFF declares all its funding, the reason been that it operates at the level of both the ANC and DA and times even higher, rallies throughout the year, building houses, buying cattle and expensive car for a king. This is cannot happen with funds from a members’ levy.
They can't even mention ( NOT a disclosure) who funds them , really a simple ANSWER....then pontificating to us about TRANSPARENCY and blah blah ..these mickey mouse me too's new "parties" are really a laughing JOKE ..nxcc ncxx SMH
He who pays the piper calls the tune in the political arena. Political ideology is number one in politics. A party that hides behind ideological vagueness wants to dupe the people. People deserve to know the product they buy, not just the ingredients (i.e. political manifesto).
With this it’s clear ANC is back in power in 2024... Coalition’s are struggling to speak in one voice, it’s like when one gets closer to ANC the various parties just shrink in ideas, & direction 😥😬
We really do not need more political parties but ethical and honest to goodness people governing. Leaders should be deep thinkers that can come up with.plans to create jobs and opportunities that can benefit the.lives of the.poor.
How can these programs be implemented without political will. You can't seriously tell me that the current crop of political parties are enough to address or cater for the needs of 60 million South Africans
Baloyi stands out because he is an experienced politician. I support the argument that too many political parties stretches the landscape to thin. Ho, it the approach is to make a coalition united at the end with other major opposition political parties, to advance their fresh ideas.
Revolutionary Greetings SMWX And Agent For Change Panel. We Hope Africans , Azanians , Citizens , Communities Or People s Agenda , Interests Or Wellbeing / Welfare Will Be Put First For Ever. NB : BigUp Mzantsi For Sure. Aluta Continua Struggle Continue.
Can Sabc teach Sizwe to LISTEN, interview people -DO NOT DEBATE THEM. We tune in to listen to the guests, and if you cut them whilst they talk- why did you invite them
Action SA is voting for DA it came to a question where DA John Steenhaisun said it's better for ISRAEL TO COME AND VOTE FOR DA SND FIRSTLY SCRAP ANC BECAUSE NELSON MANDELA FOUGHT FOR APARTAID NEVER NO ONE CAN VOTE ANC OUT YOU CAN VOTE INDIVIDUALLY PERSON OUT NOT ANC WE GOT THABO MBKEI JOIN MK ATM , A CALL FOR RUSSIA, INDIAI,CHINA ISRAEL CAN COME IN WHY NOT THE ABOVE COUNTRIES
All I hear is EFF Strategies being borrowed and no policy means we don't have any leg to stand on, but mostly these guys talk the same talk. just go join EFF and be effective, it sucks being called a fighter but Mkhwebane is able to endure it. so stop wasting time, or ANC will come and buy your paties next .
Just a futher division of an already devided opposition, an effort towards deepening democracy though. I think of these parties a let by rejects of the ANC and DA replicating their former parties policy and governance failures just under new management.
Be appreciated Nelson Mandela fought for freedom for speech, DONT talk about remove Anc remove individual please be realistic have some integrity and dignity respect for Anc not Ramaposa his only the president I think Ramaposa learned his lesson his a problem for every one LEAVE ANC ALONE IT'S THE NANE OF A PARTY EVEN HERMAN MASHABA USED THE WORD REMOVE THE COMMUNIST SO 3 DIFFRENT PARTY SEPERATED FOR DA IMAGINE HORRIBLE THINGING
Is not a matter of interest and love of political party policies that parties get this fundings and this purely outlines by same party funding many different parties with totally different policies like ANC,DA ,IFP,RISE,BOSA,FF+ all being funded by Rupert’s and to a larger extent Oppenheimer ..This kind of funding demonstrates desperation to be on the better side of a leading party if not leading from behind as funders and a massive desperation for power leading this country from behind !Is about time SA have true leader like Malema ,Zungula,Mk and whoever who will be their leader …etc who will take decisions for this country and propel it foward .not this popeyes of leaders handcuffed by their racist funders
I honestly don't think more political parties will by anyways solve anything but instead proceed with the continuous division of ordinary South Africa's making communities even weaker, a major change can happen regardless who says what where if we one day carry our SA flags and go out in numbers and remind those old thugs in government that they're at work and the government is not owned by them but by the people of the country regardless how powerful they feel whilst their there.
Just another example of not been able to work together for a common goal, instead we all want to lead. Too many political parties and more less same policies
South Africa need three strong political parties not all these thing of creating jobs for lazy People use nice words to get votes we can choose many individuals the system need party because we vote also in the legislature doesn't need individual
Just another example of not been able to work together for a common goal, instead we all want to lead. Too many political parties and more less same policies
you must understand that the anc is also opening new parties in order to collate with itself in 2024. you will see those parties when they partner with the anc in 2024
Nope, that is not true. The ANC does not survive right now on its tricks of fooling people, its survives because 70% of allegible voters do not vote. What then is left is the 30% pool of voters whom the majority votes for the ANC.
ANC cannot even pay its employees how can it waste money and form others parties?
Another point is that all the political parties formed speaks against the ANC, its like saying that the ActionSA was formed by the DA.
Spot on, these parties are already starting to show themselves! ( eg Al Jamah)
That’s an eye opening moment for me! Thanks for the education 🙏🏾💪🏾
I think these guys, Bongani, Nobuntu and Songezo, are absolutely great people. I can hear, they love our country immensely. Thanks guys, we are looking forward to your leadership🙏
Can’t help laughing at Steenhuisen trying to copy the dance moves.🤣🤣😂😂
Coalitions do not work and we all can see that. Imagine having a new president every 2 months because we do not agree on minister of finance
Don't fear new challenges. Build on them. Coalition have been there in SA before. Hence ANC enacted floor crossing claws before.
They didn't say anything , believe me
*Zero policy
*Secrete funders
So they stand for them selves
the policy is their stomachs,
Sizwe wants to know which one of these parties will join EFF.
1. We cannot blame people for thinking of having a political party that they think is a solution to their problem.
2. We cannot blame the people who are already invested in certain already established political parties for suspicion on the formation of new parties.
3. Who funds who is important, however, funding itself is the betrayal of democracy, as it converts a pure democratic process into a commercialized democracy, this results in voters voting for the most visible party rather than for the most objective party. Funding tips the scale of fairness to who has more funds to become more visible, more glamourous.
Funding’s most evil twin is the capture of the political party by the big businesses.
Conclusion: People learn more with experience/ practicals than with theories. It is a great thing that we have so many parties, for the people to see that, everything political ideology has been tried and tested by political parties and it never worked.
It then drives them to think for another solution that has never tried and tested, at the same time it exposes the core flaws of political party politics vs the community politics.
In the near future the people will then want to try a political party free politics, which will be the true democracy without funding.
PS: I really doubt that the EFF declares all its funding, the reason been that it operates at the level of both the ANC and DA and times even higher, rallies throughout the year, building houses, buying cattle and expensive car for a king.
This is cannot happen with funds from a members’ levy.
Do you support the ANC????
Tell me?
Yeyi! Conversation got tense when the funding question came up! Lol. Mr Baloyi was the only one who was clear and believable of the 3.
They can't even mention ( NOT a disclosure) who funds them , really a simple ANSWER....then pontificating to us about TRANSPARENCY and blah blah ..these mickey mouse me too's new "parties" are really a laughing JOKE ..nxcc ncxx SMH
You are politically illiterate, freedom is denoted by choice, the more the choices you have, the more free you are.
Too many parties haibo!!!
Too many??? How many is enough?
He who pays the piper calls the tune in the political arena.
Political ideology is number one in politics. A party that hides behind ideological vagueness wants to dupe the people. People deserve to know the product they buy, not just the ingredients (i.e. political manifesto).
Thank you Sizwe for exposing this idiots. Spoilers
Africans , Azanians , Citizens , Communities Or People Voice Must Be Always Be Honoured For Ever.
Aluta Continua Struggle Continue.
With this it’s clear ANC is back in power in 2024... Coalition’s are struggling to speak in one voice, it’s like when one gets closer to ANC the various parties just shrink in ideas, & direction 😥😬
Thanks to SABC and thank you Hlubi for a great interview. Ndibamba ngazo zozi 🤝 bini
We really do not need more political parties but ethical and honest to goodness people governing. Leaders should be deep thinkers that can come up with.plans to create jobs and opportunities that can benefit the.lives of the.poor.
How can these programs be implemented without political will. You can't seriously tell me that the current crop of political parties are enough to address or cater for the needs of 60 million South Africans
Rise Mzantsi
Baloyi stands out because he is an experienced politician. I support the argument that too many political parties stretches the landscape to thin. Ho, it the approach is to make a coalition united at the end with other major opposition political parties, to advance their fresh ideas.
BOSA is the one that will be most popular in 2024 out of these 3.
Yes more choice bettet
Dr Mpofu thank u for the interesting engagement....as usual I always look forward to ur interviews and insights
My favourite political leader
Above all are young leaders who've the future of this country. DA seems to be building capacity amongst black youth. This is positive factor.
Invite the radical left parties next time, EFF, LAND and BLF.
Exactly bro sick of these guys in gloves wanna hear people that say malibuye izwe lethu... bring PAC too
Mr Baloyi brilliance in action
Ideology matters in South Africa
BOSA THE WAY TO GO.... !!!!
This gentleman is politically clear. Watch time and space.
Personal opinion, Baloyi would have made a great Gauteng premier from Action SA.
We want ANC THABO MHEKI THATS WHAT WE REALLY WANT ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
I have hope. It's time for youth impact.
Anc please don't lose go from irag to other countries to vote like DA Thabo Mbkei go in coalitions with MKAND ATM
Revolutionary Greetings SMWX And Agent For Change Panel.
We Hope Africans , Azanians , Citizens , Communities Or People s Agenda , Interests Or Wellbeing / Welfare Will Be Put First For Ever.
NB : BigUp Mzantsi For Sure.
Aluta Continua Struggle Continue.
Can Sabc teach Sizwe to LISTEN, interview people -DO NOT DEBATE THEM. We tune in to listen to the guests, and if you cut them whilst they talk- why did you invite them
Hlukana nokukhuluma I didi Sizwe is doing a very great job here wena not unless you didn't get what you wanted to hear
here's another COPE on steroids. go back and pursue other careers please Mzansi Magic
See " ChrisvPappas : The KZN mayor who threatens the ANC ", Daily Maverick.
Welele😅
No jobs you asking from the poorest of the poor to assist from where will they fund money
These are mediocre politicians. Waste of time
I'm willing to bet, you can't debate them successfully on any issue
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DA is this country's salvation.
Political parties with poor ideology. SAns need justice. SAns need LAND and access to resources.
Songezo may not be the right leader for Rise Mzanzi but we shall see I guess. My vote goes to Xiluva Bongani is sober minded.
Action SA is voting for DA it came to a question where DA John Steenhaisun said it's better for ISRAEL TO COME AND VOTE FOR DA SND FIRSTLY SCRAP ANC BECAUSE NELSON MANDELA FOUGHT FOR APARTAID NEVER NO ONE CAN VOTE ANC OUT YOU CAN VOTE INDIVIDUALLY PERSON OUT NOT ANC WE GOT THABO MBKEI JOIN MK ATM , A CALL FOR RUSSIA, INDIAI,CHINA ISRAEL CAN COME IN WHY NOT THE ABOVE COUNTRIES
All I hear is EFF Strategies being borrowed and no policy means we don't have any leg to stand on, but mostly these guys talk the same talk. just go join EFF and be effective, it sucks being called a fighter but Mkhwebane is able to endure it. so stop wasting time, or ANC will come and buy your paties next .
Business .
Everyone is looking for employment in future
Just a futher division of an already devided opposition, an effort towards deepening democracy though. I think of these parties a let by rejects of the ANC and DA replicating their former parties policy and governance failures just under new management.
Jacob Zuma a speeding recovery
"The master chooses its blacks carefully"
The reason you sll there for seat in parliament to earn money 💰
Is simply bread at work
Be appreciated Nelson Mandela fought for freedom for speech, DONT talk about remove Anc remove individual please be realistic have some integrity and dignity respect for Anc not Ramaposa his only the president I think Ramaposa learned his lesson his a problem for every one LEAVE ANC ALONE IT'S THE NANE OF A PARTY EVEN HERMAN MASHABA USED THE WORD REMOVE THE COMMUNIST SO 3 DIFFRENT PARTY SEPERATED FOR DA IMAGINE HORRIBLE THINGING
Is not a matter of interest and love of political party policies that parties get this fundings and this purely outlines by same party funding many different parties with totally different policies like ANC,DA ,IFP,RISE,BOSA,FF+ all being funded by Rupert’s and to a larger extent Oppenheimer ..This kind of funding demonstrates desperation to be on the better side of a leading party if not leading from behind as funders and a massive desperation for power leading this country from behind !Is about time SA have true leader like Malema ,Zungula,Mk and whoever who will be their leader …etc who will take decisions for this country and propel it foward .not this popeyes of leaders handcuffed by their racist funders
All chasing after the money
I honestly don't think more political parties will by anyways solve anything but instead proceed with the continuous division of ordinary South Africa's making communities even weaker, a major change can happen regardless who says what where if we one day carry our SA flags and go out in numbers and remind those old thugs in government that they're at work and the government is not owned by them but by the people of the country regardless how powerful they feel whilst their there.
Get India here to votesnd China and Russia
We all stand with Anc
Just another example of not been able to work together for a common goal, instead we all want to lead. Too many political parties and more less same policies
Same old talks
Rise mzansi man couldn't answer the simple question, who's funding rise mzansi?
South Africa need three strong political parties not all these thing of creating jobs for lazy People use nice words to get votes we can choose many individuals the system need party because we vote also in the legislature doesn't need individual
You're crazy 60 million South Africans dictated to by only 3 parties. This is politics, not marriage, we need more
You are just came from oversea
Every Elections we see nee Political Parties ths is not new to us .Anc still on top.useless .around or July we see new Political Parties
Your role models are coming down. A Rude awakening awaits you
Just another example of not been able to work together for a common goal, instead we all want to lead. Too many political parties and more less same policies