How would the feedback be in this application? I have a tank with an agitator. The GWR rod would be near the wall of the cylindrical tank. the agitator blades are nearly the diameter of the tank and are distributed vertically along the agitator shaft so that there is agitation from top to bottom. The Blades would frequently pass close to the rod at all levels as the agitator spins. At and below the liquid level, the passing of the blades by the rod would cause a pressure wave as the liquid is pushed against the rod. Have you had these in any similar applications? How was the feedback? If not, how do you thing the GWR would handle this application?
+Dale Michaels If you suspect that there will be a space issue with mounting the GWR probe in the tank with an agitator you may want to consider an alternate mounting arrangement or non-contacting technologies. A couple of alternate mounting arrangements would be to mount a 1/2” diameter stainless steel tubing directly on the sidewall of the tank to insert the single rod probe of the GWR level system in. This can also be ordered from FLO-CORP as a coaxial rod probe option. Another option to consider would be to mount a pipe external to the tank with an inlet in the bottom of the tank to the external pipe and top connection from the pipe to top of the tank. This is also called a “side arm”. The GWR probe can then be mounted in the side arm. If these alternate mounting arrangements are not possible you may want to consider through the air radar like the Tracer Air transmitters (www.flowlineoptions.com/level/level-transmitters/non-contact-radar-level-transmitters/) or the Ranger Series ultrasonic level transmitters (www.flowlineoptions.com/level/level-transmitters/ultrasonic-level-transmitter/). Please keep in mind the ambient air space, properties of the fluid to be measured, pressure and temperature and tank height when considering through the air technologies.
Hi Jason, Cud u pls explain how does ultrasonic as well as radar level meters work when the liquid surface is inclined(i.e.. that total content is inclined by say.. 45 deg)
Thank you for your inquiry. Yes, FLO-CORP's Tracer 1000™ 3G Guided Wave Radar level transmitter is recommended for use in petrol tanks. Within the petrochemical and refining industries, GWR is used for measuring levels in distillation columns, crude storage, blending tanks, and liquified gases amongst other applications.
Excellent. Do you have any comments or explanation on non-contact radar vs ultrasonic? Specifically ones I am told can be mounted outside of a tank that can penetrate, for instance, a polymer blank flange or GRP vessel wall, and in this way avoid any H&S risk associated with exposure to the process media or perhaps a potentially explosive ullage space?
Very good explanation actually in last segment you explained about the guided radar in sludge tank solid particle sticks to it and always wrong value when we clean it it showing correct reading we need a solution for if you know answer this?????
our tank length is 3000mm, but we procured guided wave radar level transmitter from rosemount -5301 of probe length 2000mm, can you help us how to prolong the probe length, can we add extra 1000mm s.s. bar rod to the existing 2000mm probe and configure the transmitter to 3000mm? is it possible.
Plz can u guide ours is guide radar level in our ship. The level gauge showing in display was 98 percent but showing with level gauge 80 percent what may be defective
Through the air radar is a different type of technology. This tutorial focuses on Ultrasonic (non-contacting) and Guided-Wave Radar (contacting) measurement. The radar is guided by the probe in this case. These comments are monitored by our marketing team. If FLO-CORP can be of any application assistance to you, please contact our sales team and product managers using sales@flo-corp.com. Also, subscribe to our newsletter for future updates (see link in comments) Thanks!
One of the best tutorials I have come across. Very much detailed explanation of how both the technologies works. In ripples applications, you can still use Ultrasonic Level Transducer using a still pipe around it and Echo Suppression in transmitters. In GWR when deposition on probe goes above the radar circumference it showns inaccurate reading. For those applications, non-contact Radar Level Transmitters are available.
Thanks! We are glad the training was helpful. If we can be of any further assistance with your application, please feel free to contact us at 877-356-5463 or sales@flo-corp.com
I believe you are talking about Solids level measurement, where you'll see inclined heaps etc. Generally in these applications you can install ultrasonic level transducer aiming towards the center of inclined surface. Another factor you need to consider in it the amount of dust particles. If there is high dust in tank, then you should prefer to install High Frequency Non-contacting Radar Level Transmitter with easy aimer.
Thank you for the compliment! Sorry for the delayed response, e-mail notifications were not working properly as I thought they were, but I believe I have it resolved now. I am glad the video is helpful and detailed. If we can be of any assistance with applications, please don't hesitate to contact our sales team and product managers using sales@flo-corp.com.
Do you have any history of the GWR being used in the graphite floatation banks,will it be able to distinguish between the dielectric constants of graphite slurry and graphite thick froth since both are highly conductive.
No it is not. Please see our blog that explains the difference between RF capacitance vs. GWR www.flo-corp.com/2018/10/25/rf-capacitance-vs-gwr-technology/
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thankx for teaching the difference
Great information provide. please update more. And we also have nice videos. Welcome to our channel!
nice video
thank you for sharing that info. what a great tutorial it was👍
Great Explanation. Thank you...
One of the best explained tutorials indeed! Thank you Jason... Do you have more such available on other level measurement techniques?
How would the feedback be in this application? I have a tank with an agitator. The GWR rod would be near the wall of the cylindrical tank. the agitator blades are nearly the diameter of the tank and are distributed vertically along the agitator shaft so that there is agitation from top to bottom. The Blades would frequently pass close to the rod at all levels as the agitator spins. At and below the liquid level, the passing of the blades by the rod would cause a pressure wave as the liquid is pushed against the rod. Have you had these in any similar applications? How was the feedback? If not, how do you thing the GWR would handle this application?
+Dale Michaels If you suspect that there will be a space issue with mounting the GWR probe in the tank with an agitator you may want to consider an alternate mounting arrangement or non-contacting technologies. A couple of alternate mounting arrangements would be to mount a 1/2” diameter stainless steel tubing directly on the sidewall of the tank to insert the single rod probe of the GWR level system in. This can also be ordered from FLO-CORP as a coaxial rod probe option. Another option to consider would be to mount a pipe external to the tank with an inlet in the bottom of the tank to the external pipe and top connection from the pipe to top of the tank. This is also called a “side arm”. The GWR probe can then be mounted in the side arm. If these alternate mounting arrangements are not possible you may want to consider through the air radar like the Tracer Air transmitters (www.flowlineoptions.com/level/level-transmitters/non-contact-radar-level-transmitters/) or the Ranger Series ultrasonic level transmitters (www.flowlineoptions.com/level/level-transmitters/ultrasonic-level-transmitter/). Please keep in mind the ambient air space, properties of the fluid to be measured, pressure and temperature and tank height when considering through the air technologies.
Hi Jason, Cud u pls explain how does ultrasonic as well as radar level meters work when the liquid surface is inclined(i.e.. that total content is inclined by say.. 45 deg)
It's useful for petrol tank????
Thank you for your inquiry. Yes, FLO-CORP's Tracer 1000™ 3G Guided Wave Radar level transmitter is recommended for use in petrol tanks. Within the petrochemical and refining industries, GWR is used for measuring levels in distillation columns, crude storage, blending tanks, and liquified gases amongst other applications.
Thanks bro
would it be able to measure three different levels of liquid in a septic tank. e.g. Sludge, Effluent, and Scum?
Thank you for teaching me this very useful data
Eng. Yousef Borhan (Currently in Egypt)
Managing Director
ProService Egypt & MechaTronics Qatar
hi sir
Yousef Borhan p
perfect explanation ... and easy English used.
Go a head ... great work
Excellent. Do you have any comments or explanation on non-contact radar vs ultrasonic? Specifically ones I am told can be mounted outside of a tank that can penetrate, for instance, a polymer blank flange or GRP vessel wall, and in this way avoid any H&S risk associated with exposure to the process media or perhaps a potentially explosive ullage space?
Very good explanation actually in last segment you explained about the guided radar in sludge tank solid particle sticks to it and always wrong value when we clean it it showing correct reading we need a solution for if you know answer this?????
Excellent
Can you install radar including bypass sleeve and how can select diameter?
Thanks
our tank length is 3000mm, but we procured guided wave radar level transmitter from rosemount -5301 of probe length 2000mm, can you help us how to prolong the probe length, can we add extra 1000mm s.s. bar rod to the existing 2000mm probe and configure the transmitter to 3000mm?
is it possible.
Plz can u guide ours is guide radar level in our ship. The level gauge showing in display was 98 percent but showing with level gauge 80 percent what may be defective
I highly appreciate the tutorial. Very well presented. Thank you for the valuable information.
thanks bro nice job
thank u soo much🙏🙌🙏
Thank you for a great tutorial, I wanna know is it possible to the ultrasonic sensor for detecting the level of grease lubricant in the tank??
Very informative. Thank you. Please do more videos.
What happen if the content has separated layers of liquid. Will it see free water level under the oil content in an oil tank?
thank you for a great tutorial, I wanna know is it possible to use the ultrasonic sensor to monitor the level of a grease lubricant in the tank ?
What are the application for say... a collapsible tank? Like 50k capacity fuel tank
Through the air radar is a different type of technology. This tutorial focuses on Ultrasonic (non-contacting) and Guided-Wave Radar (contacting) measurement. The radar is guided by the probe in this case. These comments are monitored by our marketing team. If FLO-CORP can be of any application assistance to you, please contact our sales team and product managers using sales@flo-corp.com. Also, subscribe to our newsletter for future updates (see link in comments) Thanks!
One of the best tutorials I have come across. Very much detailed explanation of how both the technologies works. In ripples applications, you can still use Ultrasonic Level Transducer using a still pipe around it and Echo Suppression in transmitters. In GWR when deposition on probe goes above the radar circumference it showns inaccurate reading. For those applications, non-contact Radar Level Transmitters are available.
Thanks! We are glad the training was helpful. If we can be of any further assistance with your application, please feel free to contact us at 877-356-5463 or sales@flo-corp.com
You're welcome! Glad we could help.
I believe you are talking about Solids level measurement, where you'll see inclined heaps etc. Generally in these applications you can install ultrasonic level transducer aiming towards the center of inclined surface. Another factor you need to consider in it the amount of dust particles. If there is high dust in tank, then you should prefer to install High Frequency Non-contacting Radar Level Transmitter with easy aimer.
Very helpful video sir thanku u alot
Bravo- best training. I am using a ultrasonic level sensor and not working properly for water very inconsistent on a ploy 350L tank.
so good & efficiently
I thought Guided Wave Radar level sensor is "NON-CONTACT"? I was wrong after all...
This is a great explanation. Thank you Jason.
grazie
can we extend 2000mm probe to 3000mmlength
Nice boss
have you a representative in Algeria ?
Thank you for the compliment! Sorry for the delayed response, e-mail notifications were not working properly as I thought they were, but I believe I have it resolved now. I am glad the video is helpful and detailed. If we can be of any assistance with applications, please don't hesitate to contact our sales team and product managers using sales@flo-corp.com.
Do you have any history of the GWR being used in the graphite floatation banks,will it be able to distinguish between the dielectric constants of graphite slurry and graphite thick froth since both are highly conductive.
I see, so "Through-Air Radar" is a different technology.
Great explanation
great
Is RF capacitance the same thing as guided wave radar?
No it is not. Please see our blog that explains the difference between RF capacitance vs. GWR www.flo-corp.com/2018/10/25/rf-capacitance-vs-gwr-technology/
can i use Guided-Wave Radar (contacting) measurement in milk transport truck tank ?
Hi Barot - Yes, the FLO-CORP Tracer 1000™ Guided Wave Radar can be used in a milk transport tank truck application.
FLO-CORP -- is it measure correctly during milk truck travelling and level of milk under tank is fluctuate ??
Good job jason
wonderful
np huh