I've edited the original clip, trimming it down and overlaying appropriate movie clips and pictures of Brando when needed. The original upload: • Edward Norton on Marlo...
To translate, most movie stars before Brando acted as if they where performing live theater, with overemphasized movements and actions, as a way for the audience in the back of the theater to understand a character. Brando revolutionized modern performing by taking a much more subtle approach, allowing the small movements to portray the character, living in the moment, rather than in the lines. Hope that helped in case anyone was lost
@@Ahmed-bm2jl It's not about "good acting": Cary Grant, Lawrence Olivier, Kirk Douglas, Clark Gable or Jimmy Stewart, to name a few, were great actors. Edward is comparing "stage acting" (everpresent in the golden age of Hollywood) with "modern acting" (popularized by Brando, Hoffman, De Niro, Pacino, etc). Doing "stage acting" is not "bad acting", but the more intimate style of modern acting is more efficient for the cinema medium.
@@rodrigoodonsalcedocisneros9266 No, what I meant is that not all actors/actresses before Brando did "stage acting". Brando wasn't the one who started modern acting, he just popularised it. That's what I meant, and sorry for calling "stage acting" bad, but honestly I think that's a fit description for it.
@@Ahmed-bm2jl more theatrical acting IS good acting in live theater. More subtle acting capitalizes on the medium of cinema. You can be more dramatic and voracious when the camera is far away, but when the camera gets up close, even the smallest movement of the jaw muscles speaks even louder
Thoughtful? He just listed a bunch of great Hollywood actors and said they ALL (he emphasises "all") wanted to be actors because of Marlon Brando. All of them. None of them NONE OF THEM had any other motivation. It was ALL just seeing Marlon Brando. It took me that long to realise he's an idiot. What's your excuse?
And extremely hard to work with. Fun fact: During shooting of the Incredible Hulk, Edward Made multiple changes to the script and would constantly badger the director to make the changes officially
@@nimbusflamel8844 from what I heard he wanted it to be darker and more grounded a la batman begins which i cant blame him for. I remember an interview w kate beckinsale, who has a high iq, who said she probably got less work because she would point out this or that part of the story or script didnt make sense. I think probably the same with Norton.
It seems like Brando is where being a film actor really departed from being a stage actor. In theatre reality is sacrificed for clarity but in film you can get away with more reality.
@@nickjklol Chaplin is a Vaudeville actor, as well as a silent film star for most of his career, so it’s hard to compare him to Talking pictures actors, since they have to perform completely different.
@@Cheesefist Every one of Chaplin's films from 1940 onwards were talkies. I wouldn't credit him with setting the paradigm for principle monologues, as Orson Welles is probably more appropriate, but he was one of the first to do it in The Great Dictator. Him and Brando even co-starred in a film together later on. I also made no comparisons - I'm strictly speaking on the matter of film becoming a nexus for a different version of acting, which arguably started with Charlie, which I'm open to conceding on. However, I won't concede that it started with Brando. That is an absolutely insane claim.
@@ActuallyJamesS Many good actors that can play weird parts don't know how to be normal people in real life, e.g. Jack Nicholson, Elizabeth Taylor, Johnny Depp. Many of them admit this too. If you don't see it, start studying human behavior and actors' real life stories!
@@johnrockyryan quite a lot of guys wanted to be with him too, and he was totally into that - so you saying "all the guys wanted to be him" is a cool admission.
true, even until his late 40s he was pretty darn good looking. It was really in the late 70s when he just completely stopped giving a damn and let himself go
What Brando brought to acting was imperfection. In Streetcar, mid-scene, Brando picks a piece of pillow fluff out of the air. The scene doesn't cut or stop. That fluff embeds the reality of the lines and of the narrative. And other actors would have ignored it. And in pristine Hollywood, such a defect wouldn't not have been tolerated and the scene would be shot again.
there was a story about brando i heard a while back, he was in an acting class and the assignment was to be a husband reading a newspaper on the couch, doorbell rings and it's a salesman and the wife goes to answer and from there they were supposed to improv. in every classmate's scene, the wife and husband are all cheery talking to one another and the salesman rings the doorbell, wife answers and the salesman barges into the house with his sales pitch and the conversation is flowing. marlon is playing the husband and in his scene he and the wife are barely talking, doorbell rings, wife goes to answer and salesman barges in as usual, marlon gets up and physically throws the guy out of the door and slams it, and the director's like 'whoa what was that all about?' and marlon just grumbles something like 'i don't know fuckin know that guy'
@@achannel7553 Marlon was not fond of being called a method actor. It's a common misconception tied to his close proximity to The Actor's Studio and Lee Strasburg. Marlon was, in fact, taught by Stella Adler. Adlers school is embedded in the use of the imagination. For example, the principle: Relaxation = Concentration = Imagination. "Method," acting heavily utilizes Emotional Recall, typically by way of various Sense Memory techniques. It was also mistranslated by Strasburg from its origins in the Russian theatre with Stanislavski. But nevermind all that as I dont even know the ins and outs in such regard.. Would take a dissertations worth from some very old cat, so to speak
Brando,s childhood was turbulent where his alcoholic father deeply affected him as it should, so he had real pain which poured out the screen, big up for Montgomery Clift too
You did a good job. Brando's father was said to have greeted his acting hopes with a remark like, "Who'd pay to see your ugly face..." Growing up with that kind of disregard can switch a person off being aware of what they look like, or the impact they have on others, no matter how beautiful they are.
To me Brando was authentic he refused to receive his Oscar because he thought Hollywood didn’t represent native Americans and other minorities in a positive way. I have always admired him for that.
@@helpIthinkmylegsaregone he started observation? He started simply recognizing people who exist? That makes no sense.. but I guess you probably think any empathy and care for others must be "propaganda" or some internet term. Touch grass.
@@paulwaltersheherfeministvl521 Paul, was your comment meant to be directed towards me, jamest1681? If it was, I don't have anything to do with this video about Marlon Brando. I am just a fan of Marlon Brando and I liked the video very much. Sorry if I misunderstood your comment.
Edward Norton is so intelligent and articulate when he speaks on the genius of Marlon Brando and how much his acting has influenced a generation of actors who have followed him. Ed Norton did such a great job of holding his own with both Brando and Robert De Niro in "The Score."
If you think of Robert De Niro, Al Pacino or even, Johnny Depp, what all of them have in common is that they're Brando's product. Furthermore, some people say that Tom Hardy is the new Marlon Brando of these time. But, you know what? there was one Brando in Hollywood.
Thank you Edward. I really appreciate your sharing about Marlon, and my first awareness of him was sitting by myself in the living room and I was maybe under the age of 10 for sure watching The Wild Ones. It wasn't necessarily my kind of film, especially at that age, even though I loved film. I found myself mesmerized by Brando's acting even at such a young age. I was so into what he was doing that I became one with him. There was all of a sudden a particular fragrance that was intoxicating. That which I now experience as Spirit. There was a great spirit in Brando and that's what really made him as a great actor and a person that didn't pretend to be something he wasn't.
@@schmule460 As for Brando movies, here's an essential list: - A Streetcar Named Desire - On the Waterfront - The Godfather - Last Tango in Paris If you mean movies in general, I'm happy to give more recommendations!
@@doctornov7 I would take Last Tango off that list , he raped the female lead in that film and only got away with it due to being Brando and blaming it on his eccentricities
I see the comments framing a lot of this in terms of stage vs film acting - but Brando's approach came from a new kind of stage acting that had come from Russia and was establishing itself in the US - his teacher Stella Adler and director Elia Kazan both came out of this, as did Strasberg and the Actor's Studio - Kazan and Brando played a huge role in popularizing this approach onscreen Before that, I think American acting was very influenced by the theatre in Great Britain - and also there was already this new thing going on that came with cinema, this idea of just "being" instead of "acting" - think of figures like Gary Cooper, Louise Brooks, Cary Grant, Robert Mitchum, Greta Garbo, Jimmy Stewart, Humphrey Bogart, Barbara Stanwyck This Stanislavski system from Russia/USSR, and the American Method that emerged from it were something different, though you can see areas of overlap - one distinctive aspect seemed to be a disparity between thought and speech, a kind of counterpoint - like a whole different story was playing out in the character's mind, separate from what they were saying - another is this very particular notion of "truth" - if the other approaches would "present" or "carry out" an action, for the Method it feels like it needs to be "induced" - to somehow actually arrange things to trigger the impulse, so then the action seems to happen organically, almost involuntarily, like a reflex
Marlon Brando is the greatest actor because of his unmatched acting range. From 1950-60 he played a paraplegic in THE MEN, Stanley Kowalski in A STREETCAR NAMED DESIRE, a Mexican revolutionary in VIVA ZAPATA, Mark Anthony, a Hell's Angel in THE WILD ONE. Terry Malloy in ON THE WATERFRONT, Napoleon in DESIREE, sang and danced in GUYS AND DOLLS, a Japanese man in TEAHOUSE OF THE AUGUST MOON, a contrite nazi in YOUNG LIONS then directed ONE EYED JACKS.
@@infinitejay5659 Daniel Day Lewis is a representation of all the great actors that revolutionized acting in the past, and he himself, has not done that! If you're a fan of his, you also admire those that inspired him.
@@hectormanuel9793 All I said was that DDL's range is very impressive and shouldn't be overlooked. He was never the movie star Brando was and he didn't need to be. He is a star in his own regard for his dedication and pure talent and in his own passion for inhabiting characters. No actor since Brando has done what he (Brando) did, and there will likely never be anyone like him because he brought naturalism to the limelight - perhaps one the most revolutionary things in acting history.
Ironic that part of Brando's authenticity was generated by - for example in On The Waterfront- he read his lines off pieces of paper positioned above him. He was doing it all live. He had not memorized or rehearsed it to death. Just the opposite of all the major actors of the day.
lol that's kinda how I do presentations. I put up a slide then I talk about the slide. No practicing, no rehearsed lines. I've had a lot of compliments on my presentations because it feels more authentic when you don't know the exact words ahead of time, but this only works if you really understand the thing you are presenting. In Brando's case, the idea of method acting is to fully understand the character and then improvise. Don't write down that you will tilt your head one way or other; just do what feels correct at the moment.
2:29 I think this is the reason he's so good as Marcus Aurelius in Julius Caesar. Not only does he look Roman, he has both the fury and that broken sensitivity as he mourns Caesar in the 'Cry Havoc' speech. Perfectly captures and embodies the rising fire that Aurelius speaks of. Such a shame he didn't do more Shakespeare!
I first saw Marlon in Don Juan de Marco. I was watching tv and saw intro titles. I knew Johnny Depp but only heard of the name of Brando having no idea how he looked. I decided to watch the movie even it was late at night and I was a girl. After a few minutes of erotic scene with Johnny I decided that this film is boring (lol) and wanted to turn off tv but at that second I saw fat old man and for some reason movie became intresting. I watched it with incredible pleasure and cried till sunrise feeling so happy for some reason! I completely forgot about big name of Marlon Brando. I could only think about that marvelous fat guy, believing that I had found very special talent that no one else knew. So it was funny when later turned out he was Marlon Brando. Yeah, boys and girls, fat old guy was version of Brando that made me his fan. That's what I call a true genious!
I recently saw a video of a guy talking about the best acting he’s ever seen. He said that everyone else felt like they were stage acting and Brando practically created what we think of as film acting.
From what I heard he detests tobacco, cigarettes atleast. He refused to smoke cigarettes as Worm in rounders like the director wanted. Hence the toothpick
as a cinema historian i tend to disagree that before brando every actor performed as in theater, there were 2 actors who pre-brando changed the game: James cagney and Paul muni. Brando changed the game as far as giving performances a sense of angst wich was translated by him doing the opposite of what was required for each scene, for example he improvised the cab scene, the script specified for him to yell ag his brother and shoot the gun, instead, brando did the opposite wich surprised Rod steiger.
It's great that you mention Cagney or Muni. In every artistic movement, there is always someone getting all the credit for other precursors just before them. Exactly like the Nouvelle Vague who surfed on the Italian Neo realism wave. Cagney, like Muni or Michel Simon, certainly paved the way.
I love Joe and so often I see him hold onto a topic related to fighting or gym etiquette, something close to his wheel house where he dominates the conversation. But Norton had so much to say here, so many great insight and pure thoughts that have clearly been on his mind and reworked for years. And Joe tries to bring in Brando's lack of gym discipline with him being fat. I love Joe but now and then I love to see him humbled
When i watched American History X, for the first time during my school days kept thinking about the Nortons character for long time, even though i was not from USA , but certainly his acting and the Character on hate crimes of America played was so real .
Brando in Streetcar Named Desire is pretty much the prototype or a blueprint of a perfect actor/movie star. To be a great actor, you have to understand emotions and be able to express them the right way so the audience gets them. And understanding emotions and being OK with them is a largely feminine attribute, so basically, in order to be a truly great actor, you have to be slightly feminine and adopt this. But in order to still appeal to men as well, you still have to retain some usually male or masculine characteristics. Brando walked this tightrope perfect. He was everything an actor can aspire or hope to be, in terms of looks, charisma, ability, and appeal to audiences. Interesting thing is that Brando himself didn't like Kowalski in Streetcar as a character, he considered himself the opposite in terms of personality. But he knew exactly how to embody such a person so you wouldn't even guess it wasn't his nature. And that's a great actor. A game changer, all modern actors stand on his shoulders, no doubt about it.
Brando had a positive effect on acting in deed but I feel that now actors because of him take themselves WAY to seriously,that's another effect he had,granted Stewart and Grant had a theatrical aspect to their acting,however they didn't make acting into something mystical they needed to "channel",Brando was a douche who never learned his lines and created constant trouble on set,and that had an influence on the generations that came later for sure,there would be no virtue signalling Meryl Streep giving us moral lessons if it weren't for Brando.
So what? It doesn't matter if actors are assholes in their personal lives. If the art is good, it has a much bigger reach than their behaviour on set (although that's still bad).
If Brando hadn’t of paved the way for opinionated narcissistic celebrities to give moral lessons, some other actor would have. We humans love voicing our opinions about shit
I think Ed nailed it. What Brando brought to film acting was sensitive macho guys, which wasn't something anyone had experience with before. Every scene he acted in you could feel as if he'd been fulling living in that scene for decades. The man could give you want look and you could read multiple emotional levels being expressed.
Edward sums up Brando perfectly. I can go on for eons about Brando, watch the documentary Listen to me Marlon and you will understand just how broken Brando was and that's why he was so fucking good as an actor.
Norton has a great personality and we can't deny he is also a fantastic actor regarding the movie roles he chooses... It's funny that you can read on his face that he is the type of guy to watch youtuve videos at night to document himself hahaha
To say that actors didn't aspire to a masculine ideal prior to Marlon Brando kind of ignores the existence of Humphrey Bogart, Orson Wells and James Cagney, just to name a few of Brando's predecessors
But where was their sensitive side. Where was there ability to seem like real life. I dont get that from them. Although they were great actors. Bogart was a great actor as was cagney. But they were acting a lot. It wasnt as natural.
Here is a great in depth analysis of a great actor. Dissection of his methods and personality. Interspersed with clips. And the Rogan: He was a real FAT guy. What a fu**ing MOOK Joe is.
DO yourselves a favor go watch the criterion version of "one eyed jacks" the only film he ever directed and its the greatest western (or maybe tied with sergio ) ever made. Its certainly the most beautifully shot.
Watch clips of A Streetcar Named Desire and you'll see the contrast Joe is talking about. Everyone is acting in this old fashioned, unnatural theatrical style, then in comes Brando and he's the only one who feels like an actual human being.
Edward, for our generation you are GREAT too! Derek from American history X (hello, neoleftist kneeling suicide sect), Fight club, Pride and Glory, Birdman, YOU ARE COOOOOOL! My 2nd favourite actor after Chris Bale!)) Great respect from Ukraine, man! Hope to see you in a GREAT movies again. Maybe Villeneuve or Nolan... Dreams....
"Performing boosted his self-confidence as it was the only thing for which he received praise. He developed an idiosyncratic accent because, as a child, he thought having a Canadian accent did not sound "tough". He began to model his accent on that of Marlon Brando." /watch?v=Lur1humI6QQ
@@Fyloeu The term "manufactured" is weird when you're talking about actors in Hollywood. That said, Brando was a great actor for his time and Gosling is for his.
@@jamespettit6352 That would boil down to the definition of influence. Marlon revolutionized movies. Radically and forever changed everything about what we saw. I don't know that Bernstein can even be separated that far from Gershwin, Ellington and a few more. There is no one remotely like Brando across the entire genre. So, how is Bernstein more influencial?
@@murraymarshawn2175your assessment of him is quite narrow. take the opportunity to dive into the world of Bernstein. I'm not trying to get into a pissing contest. I encourage people to educate themselves more. If you still feel that way after more exposure, that's fine. But at least you will have broadened your perspective
@@jamespettit6352 Mr. Pettit. No one has to 'dive into the world of' Marlon Brando. No research or education is required. I believe your latest comment concisely proved my point. Marlon's specter is obvious and everywhere. Influential is effortless.
@@murraymarshawn2175 sorry to waste your time. Sounds like you already know everything. I like to listen and learn from others with different experiences.
A lot of these massive creative people suffer from addictions and eating and being poetic and unorganized. I know, I am one of them. I mean just look at so many musicians.
It's strange; so many actors/actresses who I think are great, in their own right, revere Marlon Brando... but I gotta confess, I never liked his performances, myself. Brando's acting always struck me as hammy, "show-ey", too affected, and his voice always sounded unnatural to my ears. (On a related note, I think of Daniel Day Lewis the same way-- and everyone in the showbiz press calls him "the greatest living actor," which I don't get, either.) I listen to Edward Norton (who I think is a genuinely good actor, and pretty knowledgeable about his craft) give this glowing, beautiful description of Brando, and I'm like, _"are we even watching the same performances?"_ I dunno-- what am I missing?
Marlon Brando was an actor who was wayyy too ahead of his time - that's what made him stand out so well. You can compare his acting with anyone else's of that black and white generation and see what I'm talking about.
To translate, most movie stars before Brando acted as if they where performing live theater, with overemphasized movements and actions, as a way for the audience in the back of the theater to understand a character. Brando revolutionized modern performing by taking a much more subtle approach, allowing the small movements to portray the character, living in the moment, rather than in the lines. Hope that helped in case anyone was lost
Good acting existed before Brando. He just popularised it and inspired a new generation.
@@Ahmed-bm2jl sorry if It came off as me say “acting was bad before Brando” because that’s the furthest thing from what I meant.
@@Ahmed-bm2jl It's not about "good acting": Cary Grant, Lawrence Olivier, Kirk Douglas, Clark Gable or Jimmy Stewart, to name a few, were great actors. Edward is comparing "stage acting" (everpresent in the golden age of Hollywood) with "modern acting" (popularized by Brando, Hoffman, De Niro, Pacino, etc). Doing "stage acting" is not "bad acting", but the more intimate style of modern acting is more efficient for the cinema medium.
@@rodrigoodonsalcedocisneros9266 No, what I meant is that not all actors/actresses before Brando did "stage acting". Brando wasn't the one who started modern acting, he just popularised it. That's what I meant, and sorry for calling "stage acting" bad, but honestly I think that's a fit description for it.
@@Ahmed-bm2jl more theatrical acting IS good acting in live theater. More subtle acting capitalizes on the medium of cinema. You can be more dramatic and voracious when the camera is far away, but when the camera gets up close, even the smallest movement of the jaw muscles speaks even louder
I'm always impressed when I hear Edward Norton speak, he is always articulate and thoughtful.
Thoughtful? He just listed a bunch of great Hollywood actors and said they ALL (he emphasises "all") wanted to be actors because of Marlon Brando. All of them. None of them NONE OF THEM had any other motivation. It was ALL just seeing Marlon Brando.
It took me that long to realise he's an idiot. What's your excuse?
Harvard grad
And extremely hard to work with. Fun fact: During shooting of the Incredible Hulk, Edward Made multiple changes to the script and would constantly badger the director to make the changes officially
LOL
@@nimbusflamel8844 from what I heard he wanted it to be darker and more grounded a la batman begins which i cant blame him for. I remember an interview w kate beckinsale, who has a high iq, who said she probably got less work because she would point out this or that part of the story or script didnt make sense. I think probably the same with Norton.
It seems like Brando is where being a film actor really departed from being a stage actor. In theatre reality is sacrificed for clarity but in film you can get away with more reality.
Don’t skip out on Lawrence Olivier. I feel like he and Brando where far ahead of there generation. Along with Orson Welles and Citizen Kane.
That makes sense. Thanks.
Really? Not Chaplin or like at least 50 other people?
@@nickjklol Chaplin is a Vaudeville actor, as well as a silent film star for most of his career, so it’s hard to compare him to Talking pictures actors, since they have to perform completely different.
@@Cheesefist Every one of Chaplin's films from 1940 onwards were talkies. I wouldn't credit him with setting the paradigm for principle monologues, as Orson Welles is probably more appropriate, but he was one of the first to do it in The Great Dictator. Him and Brando even co-starred in a film together later on. I also made no comparisons - I'm strictly speaking on the matter of film becoming a nexus for a different version of acting, which arguably started with Charlie, which I'm open to conceding on. However, I won't concede that it started with Brando. That is an absolutely insane claim.
His broken childhood actually contributed to his acting greatness and it showed in uis performances.
happened with James Dean too -- when I see Brando on his knees to Stella, I remember James Dean clawing at Raymond Burr (who wasn't warned)
Is that right? Mister?
@@avicennitegh1377 elaborate;
Can you?
It also contributed to his pedophilia
@@ActuallyJamesS Many good actors that can play weird parts don't know how to be normal people in real life, e.g. Jack Nicholson, Elizabeth Taylor, Johnny Depp. Many of them admit this too. If you don't see it, start studying human behavior and actors' real life stories!
Marlon Brando was one handsome bastard in his prime.
True, just like I am in my prime right now lol
Wyd you had to put it that way 😂 😂
@@meow-ee5gl cause its the truth Brando in his prime was one handsome bastard all the guys wanted to be him and all the women wanted to be with him
@@johnrockyryan quite a lot of guys wanted to be with him too, and he was totally into that - so you saying "all the guys wanted to be him" is a cool admission.
true, even until his late 40s he was pretty darn good looking. It was really in the late 70s when he just completely stopped giving a damn and let himself go
What Brando brought to acting was imperfection. In Streetcar, mid-scene, Brando picks a piece of pillow fluff out of the air. The scene doesn't cut or stop. That fluff embeds the reality of the lines and of the narrative. And other actors would have ignored it. And in pristine Hollywood, such a defect wouldn't not have been tolerated and the scene would be shot again.
there was a story about brando i heard a while back, he was in an acting class and the assignment was to be a husband reading a newspaper on the couch, doorbell rings and it's a salesman and the wife goes to answer and from there they were supposed to improv. in every classmate's scene, the wife and husband are all cheery talking to one another and the salesman rings the doorbell, wife answers and the salesman barges into the house with his sales pitch and the conversation is flowing. marlon is playing the husband and in his scene he and the wife are barely talking, doorbell rings, wife goes to answer and salesman barges in as usual, marlon gets up and physically throws the guy out of the door and slams it, and the director's like 'whoa what was that all about?' and marlon just grumbles something like 'i don't know fuckin know that guy'
@A channel dicaprio's not method, but agreed he's great
What was the scene about Laura? Could you please explain?
@@achannel7553 Marlon was not fond of being called a method actor. It's a common misconception tied to his close proximity to The Actor's Studio and Lee Strasburg. Marlon was, in fact, taught by Stella Adler. Adlers school is embedded in the use of the imagination. For example, the principle: Relaxation = Concentration = Imagination. "Method," acting heavily utilizes Emotional Recall, typically by way of various Sense Memory techniques. It was also mistranslated by Strasburg from its origins in the Russian theatre with Stanislavski. But nevermind all that as I dont even know the ins and outs in such regard.. Would take a dissertations worth from some very old cat, so to speak
@@nwwfmaniac529 You are correct about, Leonardo. Just the same, Marlon isn't "method," either
He changed the whole history of cinema. What a great actor.
Norton has such a recognizable voice despite his little stuttering he has a certain charm in his speech I could listen to him talk about anything
Shhhh shut up
Primal Fear
You like snake lisp? Lol
Brando,s childhood was turbulent where his alcoholic father deeply affected him as it should, so he had real pain which poured out the screen, big up for Montgomery Clift too
Yess glad somebody said it! Brando, Dean and Clift ❤️
Alcoholic mother too
Brando, James Dean and Montgomery Clift were the same breed, beyond superlatives. (I know, I didn't say it first, but I mean it just as much)
His mother was alcoholic. His father was distant and unsupportive.
Yeah Clift's life was a complete mess, despite him being born rich in an aristocratic family.
You did a good job. Brando's father was said to have greeted his acting hopes with a remark like, "Who'd pay to see your ugly face..." Growing up with that kind of disregard can switch a person off being aware of what they look like, or the impact they have on others, no matter how beautiful they are.
@@jaycuthbert245 Absolutely. Apparently Brando hired him later and made his life hell. Brando sure played a long game.
His ugly face??? I’m a straight man and Brando was a fucking stud
@@avicennitegh1377 🤯 what???
@@avicennitegh1377 damn how so
@@avicennitegh1377 He seemed like the kind of guy who would do that yes lol
To me Brando was authentic he refused to receive his Oscar because he thought Hollywood didn’t represent native Americans and other minorities in a positive way. I have always admired him for that.
*Oscar
@@JCReynardus Yeah Oscar
oh yeah he started this beloved "look at me, I save the downtrodden" shit they now all do.
@Jonathan Koch Oh really? So name me one actor or artist who has refused an award on moral grounds ?
@@helpIthinkmylegsaregone he started observation? He started simply recognizing people who exist? That makes no sense.. but I guess you probably think any empathy and care for others must be "propaganda" or some internet term. Touch grass.
Fantastic interview. Maybe the best interview I ever heard about Marlon Brando. I wish it would have gone on for another 2 hours.
@@paulwaltersheherfeministvl521 Paul, was your comment meant to be directed towards me, jamest1681? If it was, I don't have anything to do with this video about Marlon Brando. I am just a fan of Marlon Brando and I liked the video very much. Sorry if I misunderstood your comment.
@@jamest681 it’s not a real person. simply a promotion bot spamming this comment
Every time Norton is interviewed it is fascinating. He knows much but he's still searching and that gets my respect and admiration.
Edward Norton is so intelligent and articulate when he speaks on the genius of Marlon Brando and how much his acting has influenced a generation of actors who have followed him. Ed Norton did such a great job of holding his own with both Brando and Robert De Niro in "The Score."
"When you guys get your shit together, give me a call". YES, agreed. I watch The Score about once a year and consider it a highly underrated classic.
Brando had more Charisma and magnetism on screen than any actor I’ve ever watched.
What about the Rock??!
@@Jow2002 Charlie Brown has some
@johannesjoey9903 the Rocks is fake.
How honorable Edward Norton & Joe Rogan talk about Marlon Brando. So amazing to see this man, Brando is a True Legend like Michael Jackson. R.I.P
If you think of Robert De Niro, Al Pacino or even, Johnny Depp, what all of them have in common is that they're Brando's product. Furthermore, some people say that Tom Hardy is the new Marlon Brando of these time. But, you know what? there was one Brando in Hollywood.
Tom Hardy is trying way too hard. More and more people are actually starting to despise him. He's a one trick pony.
Tom Hardy? the guy from the Venom movie? LOL
You left out James Dean.
@@MrHEC381991 you really think Brando, and him had an affair?
@@user-np7pq2gy1v I don't know Shia Lebouf tells some stories about Hardy on set
Thank you Edward. I really appreciate your sharing about Marlon, and my first awareness of him was sitting by myself in the living room and I was maybe under the age of 10 for sure watching The Wild Ones. It wasn't necessarily my kind of film, especially at that age, even though I loved film. I found myself mesmerized by Brando's acting even at such a young age. I was so into what he was doing that I became one with him. There was all of a sudden a particular fragrance that was intoxicating. That which I now experience as Spirit. There was a great spirit in Brando and that's what really made him as a great actor and a person that didn't pretend to be something he wasn't.
First saw Streetcar when I was 15. Couldn't believe how good he was. Pure charisma
I have never heard someone speak so brilliantly about Brando
I couldn't sit through the edward norton interview but with the editing I can see what he was getting at.... Good job
That's great! My aim was to make it more accessible to people who might not know all the references/movies etc.
@@doctornov7 We Appreciate As a film buff is there any notable movies I should watch?
@@schmule460 As for Brando movies, here's an essential list:
- A Streetcar Named Desire
- On the Waterfront
- The Godfather
- Last Tango in Paris
If you mean movies in general, I'm happy to give more recommendations!
@@doctornov7 This was really fantastic 👏 well done
@@doctornov7 I would take Last Tango off that list , he raped the female lead in that film and only got away with it due to being Brando and blaming it on his eccentricities
I see the comments framing a lot of this in terms of stage vs film acting - but Brando's approach came from a new kind of stage acting that had come from Russia and was establishing itself in the US - his teacher Stella Adler and director Elia Kazan both came out of this, as did Strasberg and the Actor's Studio - Kazan and Brando played a huge role in popularizing this approach onscreen
Before that, I think American acting was very influenced by the theatre in Great Britain - and also there was already this new thing going on that came with cinema, this idea of just "being" instead of "acting" - think of figures like Gary Cooper, Louise Brooks, Cary Grant, Robert Mitchum, Greta Garbo, Jimmy Stewart, Humphrey Bogart, Barbara Stanwyck
This Stanislavski system from Russia/USSR, and the American Method that emerged from it were something different, though you can see areas of overlap - one distinctive aspect seemed to be a disparity between thought and speech, a kind of counterpoint - like a whole different story was playing out in the character's mind, separate from what they were saying
- another is this very particular notion of "truth" - if the other approaches would "present" or "carry out" an action, for the Method it feels like it needs to be "induced" - to somehow actually arrange things to trigger the impulse, so then the action seems to happen organically, almost involuntarily, like a reflex
Marlon Brando is the greatest actor because of his unmatched acting range. From 1950-60 he played a paraplegic in THE MEN, Stanley Kowalski in A STREETCAR NAMED DESIRE, a Mexican revolutionary in VIVA ZAPATA, Mark Anthony, a Hell's Angel in THE WILD ONE. Terry Malloy in ON THE WATERFRONT, Napoleon in DESIREE, sang and danced in GUYS AND DOLLS, a Japanese man in TEAHOUSE OF THE AUGUST MOON, a contrite nazi in YOUNG LIONS then directed ONE EYED JACKS.
Wouldn't say unmatched. Daniel Day-Lewis has just as impressive range.
@@infinitejay5659 He doesn't have half the presence that Brando had.
@@infinitejay5659 Daniel Day Lewis is a representation of all the great actors that revolutionized acting in the past, and he himself, has not done that! If you're a fan of his, you also admire those that inspired him.
@@hectormanuel9793 All I said was that DDL's range is very impressive and shouldn't be overlooked. He was never the movie star Brando was and he didn't need to be. He is a star in his own regard for his dedication and pure talent and in his own passion for inhabiting characters. No actor since Brando has done what he (Brando) did, and there will likely never be anyone like him because he brought naturalism to the limelight - perhaps one the most revolutionary things in acting history.
Can we be friends? I love that comment 😁😂
One of my most iconic movie experiences: "Who's that guy?" Norton in Primal Fear ...
Ironic that part of Brando's authenticity was generated by - for example in On The Waterfront- he read his lines off pieces of paper positioned above him. He was doing it all live. He had not memorized or rehearsed it to death. Just the opposite of all the major actors of the day.
lol that's kinda how I do presentations. I put up a slide then I talk about the slide. No practicing, no rehearsed lines. I've had a lot of compliments on my presentations because it feels more authentic when you don't know the exact words ahead of time, but this only works if you really understand the thing you are presenting. In Brando's case, the idea of method acting is to fully understand the character and then improvise. Don't write down that you will tilt your head one way or other; just do what feels correct at the moment.
Brando made his theater debut in London. When he made his entrance the audience thought a janitor had mistakenly wandered on stage.
How does one get this information of what the audience was thinking
When did he play in London? In wich theatre? What part? Was it in real life or just in your dream?
2:29 I think this is the reason he's so good as Marcus Aurelius in Julius Caesar.
Not only does he look Roman, he has both the fury and that broken sensitivity as he mourns Caesar in the 'Cry Havoc' speech. Perfectly captures and embodies the rising fire that Aurelius speaks of. Such a shame he didn't do more Shakespeare!
God damn, I’d like to hear Edward Norton do a podcast. He’s got a great voice.
Thank you so much for editing it this way
He looked macho on the surface but he had this poetic weak sensitivity inside.
I first saw Marlon in Don Juan de Marco. I was watching tv and saw intro titles. I knew Johnny Depp but only heard of the name of Brando having no idea how he looked. I decided to watch the movie even it was late at night and I was a girl. After a few minutes of erotic scene with Johnny I decided that this film is boring (lol) and wanted to turn off tv but at that second I saw fat old man and for some reason movie became intresting. I watched it with incredible pleasure and cried till sunrise feeling so happy for some reason! I completely forgot about big name of Marlon Brando. I could only think about that marvelous fat guy, believing that I had found very special talent that no one else knew. So it was funny when later turned out he was Marlon Brando. Yeah, boys and girls, fat old guy was version of Brando that made me his fan. That's what I call a true genious!
I love you
It works when you see the character and not the actor, that's great acting.
@@pinabautti4514 🥰😍
@@jesustovar2549 yes! it's always a character with Marlon!
Lovely story
I recently saw a video of a guy talking about the best acting he’s ever seen. He said that everyone else felt like they were stage acting and Brando practically created what we think of as film acting.
I feel like Edward is a guy to grab whiskey and cigar with and talk about snob things. I love it
From what I heard he detests tobacco, cigarettes atleast. He refused to smoke cigarettes as Worm in rounders like the director wanted. Hence the toothpick
@@MrBojangles788he smoked in fight club though
glad you uploaded this, one of my favorite episodes
YOU CAN'T SEE CALIFORNIA WITHOUT MARLON BRANDO'S EYES
He forgot to add Paul Newman to that list of actors who were inspired by Brando. That'd have been the first person I'd think to mention!
Newman definetly belongs in the conversation not only as someone influenced but also kind of doing what brando did.
The hustler is proof of that.
Here's the thing about actors, most of them are crazy and they love themselves.
as a cinema historian i tend to disagree that before brando every actor performed as in theater, there were 2 actors who pre-brando changed the game: James cagney and Paul muni. Brando changed the game as far as giving performances a sense of angst wich was translated by him doing the opposite of what was required for each scene, for example he improvised the cab scene, the script specified for him to yell ag his brother and shoot the gun, instead, brando did the opposite wich surprised Rod steiger.
Yea agreed, Mitchum definitely brought that same sorta presence of a different kinda male star even before Brando
It's great that you mention Cagney or Muni. In every artistic movement, there is always someone getting all the credit for other precursors just before them. Exactly like the Nouvelle Vague who surfed on the Italian Neo realism wave. Cagney, like Muni or Michel Simon, certainly paved the way.
Great transitional edits on this! very very smooth!
i could listen to Norton all day everyday, i still remember his interviews when promoting Fight Club.. he always has sustains
I love Joe and so often I see him hold onto a topic related to fighting or gym etiquette, something close to his wheel house where he dominates the conversation. But Norton had so much to say here, so many great insight and pure thoughts that have clearly been on his mind and reworked for years. And Joe tries to bring in Brando's lack of gym discipline with him being fat. I love Joe but now and then I love to see him humbled
Morgan Freeman shouldn’t be mentioned in that group. Morgan Freeman isn’t an actor, he’s himself in every role
He plays the wise old negro in every movie.
When i watched American History X, for the first time during my school days kept thinking about the Nortons character for long time, even though i was not from USA , but certainly his acting and the Character on hate crimes of America played was so real .
17 kids, 17,000 donuts.
lool!
Thing is Brando didn’t care
@@arturovillarreal1693 Obviously
Homer Simpson of acting 🍩
The golden age actors were real in their own right, they represented their time and they did it well.
No doubt I love a lot of the actors and actresses from the golden age.
But this was just different and took things in a new direction.
Brando in Streetcar Named Desire is pretty much the prototype or a blueprint of a perfect actor/movie star. To be a great actor, you have to understand emotions and be able to express them the right way so the audience gets them. And understanding emotions and being OK with them is a largely feminine attribute, so basically, in order to be a truly great actor, you have to be slightly feminine and adopt this. But in order to still appeal to men as well, you still have to retain some usually male or masculine characteristics.
Brando walked this tightrope perfect. He was everything an actor can aspire or hope to be, in terms of looks, charisma, ability, and appeal to audiences. Interesting thing is that Brando himself didn't like Kowalski in Streetcar as a character, he considered himself the opposite in terms of personality. But he knew exactly how to embody such a person so you wouldn't even guess it wasn't his nature. And that's a great actor.
A game changer, all modern actors stand on his shoulders, no doubt about it.
Edward Norton as King Baldwin in Kingdom of Heaven is channeling Brando in a very interesting way - almost like a medieval Kurtz with total clarity.
Now Stallones scene at the end of First blood makes even more sense... He wanted a Brando scene
Dude, look at James Dean. He was the biggest Brando wannabe.
@@MrHEC381991 all actors of that generation was Brando wannabes.. Nothing wrong with that
I said this before about Joaquin. Now I believe it applies to Norton. Greatest actor to not have received an Oscar.
Norton is better than Joaquin.
Norton "Brando was ....."
Rogan "He was a fat guy" 😂
You can't see California without Marlon Brando's eyes
Brando didn’t have to face a camera to act or be understood
best description of Marlon ever
I completely forgot that Ed knew Marlon. That’s very cool 😎
I forgot they were working together.
I also forgot they work together the score is a good movie .
Brando had a positive effect on acting in deed but I feel that now actors because of him take themselves WAY to seriously,that's another effect he had,granted Stewart and Grant had a theatrical aspect to their acting,however they didn't make acting into something mystical they needed to "channel",Brando was a douche who never learned his lines and created constant trouble on set,and that had an influence on the generations that came later for sure,there would be no virtue signalling Meryl Streep giving us moral lessons if it weren't for Brando.
So what? It doesn't matter if actors are assholes in their personal lives.
If the art is good, it has a much bigger reach than their behaviour on set (although that's still bad).
Yeah , like there's Spencer tracy , Peter o toole !!!
That's why some of the best would argue that Charlie Chaplin is the best actor ever!!
@Barfieman362 Maybe you should read up a little bit more pal because lots of people think Charlie Chaplin is the best.
Why would moral lessons from actors trigger you, unless you are morally flawed?
If Brando hadn’t of paved the way for opinionated narcissistic celebrities to give moral lessons, some other actor would have. We humans love voicing our opinions about shit
They reiterated the same point over and over and went in circles
The only man that could play Judge Holden 😞
I clicked this thinking it would be another one of the horror stories of working on set with Brando lol
Never expected Brad Pitt to appear in JRE
I think Ed nailed it. What Brando brought to film acting was sensitive macho guys, which wasn't something anyone had experience with before. Every scene he acted in you could feel as if he'd been fulling living in that scene for decades. The man could give you want look and you could read multiple emotional levels being expressed.
i guess you just can't see california without marlon brando's eyes then
Edward sums up Brando perfectly. I can go on for eons about Brando, watch the documentary Listen to me Marlon and you will understand just how broken Brando was and that's why he was so fucking good as an actor.
Listen to me Marlon is great
@@Sean-if7rp it certainly is. It made me love him even more. It gives you a better sense of why he became what he did later in life.
Legend says you can't see California without his eyes.
I would say Paul Newman and Brando. They were truly phenomenal.
Brando, Pacino, Nicholson, De Niro, Hoffman, Hopkins, Denzel, Day Lewis, Oldman, Di Caprio.
Norton has a great personality and we can't deny he is also a fantastic actor regarding the movie roles he chooses... It's funny that you can read on his face that he is the type of guy to watch youtuve videos at night to document himself hahaha
Often imitated, never duplicated.
I think the word they're looking for to say is realism.
I bet Brando also made a lot of people realize they were gay.
MB is untouchable
My favorite performance of Brando is in Apocalypse Now, in some ways it felt like a reflection on his own life, a man who consumed himself.
This was really edited, rare to see this on youtube
To say that actors didn't aspire to a masculine ideal prior to Marlon Brando kind of ignores the existence of Humphrey Bogart, Orson Wells and James Cagney, just to name a few of Brando's predecessors
But where was their sensitive side.
Where was there ability to seem like real life.
I dont get that from them. Although they were great actors.
Bogart was a great actor as was cagney. But they were acting a lot.
It wasnt as natural.
Impressed by Norton's take on Brando....
Here is a great in depth analysis of a great actor. Dissection of his methods and personality. Interspersed with clips. And the Rogan: He was a real FAT guy.
What a fu**ing MOOK Joe is.
well,he WAS a fat guy at the end.Whats wrong?
They were analyzing Brando's psychology and Joe was picking at the self-indulgence aspect. I thought it was pretty on topic.
You can tell he doesn’t really know what Ed’s talking about but tried to add something to the conversation
Heavy wears the crown, his later career was marred by his ego and belief in his own greatness.
DO yourselves a favor go watch the criterion version of "one eyed jacks" the only film he ever directed and its the greatest western (or maybe tied with sergio ) ever made. Its certainly the most beautifully shot.
Marlon had it in the eyes...soul
Good to see John Cusack after a long time
Great editing and compilation, thank you
"Acting without acting" George Costanza
Watch clips of A Streetcar Named Desire and you'll see the contrast Joe is talking about. Everyone is acting in this old fashioned, unnatural theatrical style, then in comes Brando and he's the only one who feels like an actual human being.
Edward, for our generation you are GREAT too! Derek from American history X (hello, neoleftist kneeling suicide sect), Fight club, Pride and Glory, Birdman, YOU ARE COOOOOOL! My 2nd favourite actor after Chris Bale!)) Great respect from Ukraine, man! Hope to see you in a GREAT movies again. Maybe Villeneuve or Nolan... Dreams....
Marlon Brando was an actor, Hollywood today is filled with celebrities. Huge difference.
The Missing Link between the theater face and the natural face.
you c Marlon Brando or the Godfather...i see Jor-El...father of Superman
Your editing is fantastic.
It’s kind of interesting how you can see the younger generation, at least culturally, is now being moved like this by Ryan Gosling
Except Gosling was a child actor and therefore much more "manufactured" than Brando.
"Performing boosted his self-confidence as it was the only thing for which he received praise. He developed an idiosyncratic accent because, as a child, he thought having a Canadian accent did not sound "tough". He began to model his accent on that of Marlon Brando."
/watch?v=Lur1humI6QQ
@@Fyloeu The term "manufactured" is weird when you're talking about actors in Hollywood. That said, Brando was a great actor for his time and Gosling is for his.
@@Fyloeu typical mines better than yours mentality
@@tommytwo-times9053 Meh, I don't care much about either.. haven't watched a movie in years.
Edward Norton what a fuckin actor! his performance in Kingdom of heaven is one of the greatest i have ever seen just breathtaking
This was a +++PhD analysis of Marlon Brando persona 👏👏👏💯
Brando is the single most influential artist of the 20th century - period.
I'll take Leonard Bernstein for that category. Not saying Brando wasn't influential. But you said artist
@@jamespettit6352 That would boil down to the definition of influence. Marlon revolutionized movies. Radically and forever changed everything about what we saw. I don't know that Bernstein can even be separated that far from Gershwin, Ellington and a few more. There is no one remotely like Brando across the entire genre. So, how is Bernstein more influencial?
@@murraymarshawn2175your assessment of him is quite narrow. take the opportunity to dive into the world of Bernstein. I'm not trying to get into a pissing contest. I encourage people to educate themselves more. If you still feel that way after more exposure, that's fine. But at least you will have broadened your perspective
@@jamespettit6352 Mr. Pettit. No one has to 'dive into the world of' Marlon Brando. No research or education is required. I believe your latest comment concisely proved my point. Marlon's specter is obvious and everywhere. Influential is effortless.
@@murraymarshawn2175 sorry to waste your time. Sounds like you already know everything. I like to listen and learn from others with different experiences.
norton kind of encapsulates some of the things he's talking about most in birdman imo
My favorite actor next to John Turturro! They both have such range
A lot of these massive creative people suffer from addictions and eating and being poetic and unorganized. I know, I am one of them. I mean just look at so many musicians.
Ive read Brando's biography, Norton did great justice illuminating more light on the matter.....
We gossip endlessly about Clint Eastwood having 8 children, and here we have Marlon Brando with 17.
Marlon Brando was the original sigma male
Yes.
Actors get all the credit but writers get none. Writer and directors put him in position.
Eh not fr
Ed looks like Jerry Cantrell to me! Two great artists on top of their craft!
It's strange; so many actors/actresses who I think are great, in their own right, revere Marlon Brando... but I gotta confess, I never liked his performances, myself. Brando's acting always struck me as hammy, "show-ey", too affected, and his voice always sounded unnatural to my ears. (On a related note, I think of Daniel Day Lewis the same way-- and everyone in the showbiz press calls him "the greatest living actor," which I don't get, either.)
I listen to Edward Norton (who I think is a genuinely good actor, and pretty knowledgeable about his craft) give this glowing, beautiful description of Brando, and I'm like, _"are we even watching the same performances?"_
I dunno-- what am I missing?
Watch “There will be Blood” and tell me DDL is not inhabiting his character.
@@infinitejest441 I DRINK YOUR MILLSHAKE
DRAINAGEEE ELI
Marlon Brando was an actor who was wayyy too ahead of his time - that's what made him stand out so well. You can compare his acting with anyone else's of that black and white generation and see what I'm talking about.
Norton worked with Brando on his final film The Score (2001).