The one with the baby did NOT go too far. You're absolutely wrong on that one. She kept leaving him alone in the car. She said she'd stop, but she didn't. On top of not stopping, the car wasn't even locked. She needed to feel the full weight of her ignorance in not listening to her husband about the safety of their child. He didn't go too far. She was too stupid to listen to him and paid the price.
Exactly! I agree. His wife was just asking to get robbed, and for her child to be kidnapped. Unbelievable! That woman should NOT be a mother if she's going to risk the life of children like that. Even in a safe town/city, you NEVER leave a baby alone, nor should you leave the car unlocked!
@GretchTheZ If he calls the police, there's going to be charges laid (not by the husband). Keep them the HELL out of your familial arguments AT ALL COSTS. Now ... How he really needs to illustrate his point is to sit her down and calmly and rationally explain his point of view, why he did what he did and the potential outcomes in DETAIL. Immediately followed by the simple question: How would you explain to the police that you left our child unattended to allow this to even possibly happen ? How would you explain this to ME if this hadn't been me spotting your car and our son was ACTUALLY taken ?
@GretchTheZ that is not the answer. She may have some post partum depression going on. So she needs counseling and parenting classes. Maybe a nanny while it gets figured out. No baby should ever be left in the car locked or not.
What OP's wife did is a criminal offense in Florida. There have been children kidnapped this way or died of heat stroke after only ten or fifteen minutes.
I used to live in So. FL. You remember the story about the Mom who put her son in his car seat & then unloaded her groceries into the trunk? The car was stolen while she was doing that. When the thief noticed the son in the back seat, he left the son, on the side of a road, still strapped into his car seat. Thankfully, the thief realized he would have been charged with kidnapping besides car theft... that's why he left the son somewhere.
@@dinarusso3320 any parents that do this are terrible. Are you saying it's ok to leave a child in a car? that seems the only reason why you would defend her. Stand up for dads that do the right thing and are good parents
I agree with what the OP did in the second story. If a parent can take a baby from an unlocked car think about what can happen if a woman who wanted a baby took a baby from the car?
@@YumeBuru Yeah, I heard too many stories of women who either can't have kids or wanted a baby to trap a spouse or a boyfriend and took a baby from a hospital or a when a mother wasn't paying attention.
Like I remember the worse story where a woman nearly got away with a baby in a stroller and actually took advantage of the crowd to attack/detain the father thinking he was a stocker. I mean hell the story can be fake, but just the story from what I remember it was super depressing because this is all in the POV of the Father. Who despite came into the (Parking lot... or Park) with his Wife, she had to run back into the store because she forgot something, and that Random Woman almost got away.
I agree with the father. She said she’d never again leave their child in the car alone and what does she do? Leaves the baby alone in an unlocked car! For more than 6 minutes! That’s child endangerment and shows what a lazy ahole she is for lying to her husband. And like everyone who has no defense for their bad behavior, they get mad a the person who has a valid gripe.
The real question in the 1st story is: What about the other passengers? If the bus was full, then there were several people who could have given up their seats, but apparently they all sat there uninvolved while OP was treated like a monster.🤔
idk about other places but in my country there are 4-8 designated spots for people with disabilities, pregnant or older people. If you choose to sit there and someone comes along that needs that seat you are required to give up your seat. But with any other seat you're definitely not required to do that.
My thoughts on the matter exactly! When OP declined, go to someone else and try again. I think ignoring the woman was a bad approach. Before the woman even had a chance to ask, it would have been better to look right at her and say something like "I'd give you my seat but I've been standing/walking all day and need this seat". That way, it's defused before it even starts. Sometimes the best defense is a preemptive attack.
Yeah, it was an "everyone sucks". Here in Quebec, old people, handicap and pregnant woman have priorities (we have a rule about it and poster are in the windows about it). I even live a situation where a bus driver bark at passengers to give their seat to an old man. (I didn't have a seat to give).
Well, there is a common rule in my country, that you should free your seat for pregnant, old or disabled. And we have designated spots for this people, so if you taken this spot - you must release it.
Story number two: As a police officer, I agree with OP. He asked her not to do it, he explained to her his concerns and she totally ignored them. He is right, anyone could’ve taken that child. He, as the father, had a right to protect his child and to teach her a lesson. It would’ve been worse for her if it had not been for him. I have dealt with many disasters dealing with children and ignorant irresponsible parents! Maybe she doesn’t understand that there is a market for selling babies and small children. She needs to get over herself real quick. If that was my child, I would not trust her!
OP was correct. He should also get full custody via divorce proceedings. Unfortunately, it's only through a divorce that ANY parent can invoke parental rights over the other parent. Otherwise, he is negligently leaving his child in the care of an irresponsible person. If she was a babysitter, she'd get sued (or at least sacked from the job with no references).
Just a few years ago, a mom made that mistake at a local gas station. Not only did he steal the car / child, it ended up in a high speed chase on the highway. The kid was physically OK, but you can imagine there are lasting effects from that day.
So you spend every single minute with your kid? No showers, no toilet, food prep, errands, nothing? Never? Ever? I doubt it. I guess growing up Gen X as a latch-key kid means we were left alone quite a bit. Must be why some kids turned out to be helicopters. PS - If that was my husband, he would have been dead because I would have murdered him in a blind rage.
2nd story, leaving a baby in the car by himself, that’s divorce grounds. He did not go too far. He told her to stop, and she didn’t. She learned a hard lesson.
Did she actually learn anything? She wanted OP to apologize. If it were to happen again, he should call the police and divorce her. He would have no problem getting custody.
Right? I’d actually leave someone over that. If you can’t keep our kid safe and try to make me feel like the bad guy for keeping our kid safe, and constantly show unsafe behaviours regarding our kid, I’m leaving and taking the kid with me and going for full custody
Second Story: OP definitely wasn’t the AH, but I feel like he needs to talk to police and scare his wife straight about leaving the baby in the car and the charges she could face.
The way he did it was acceptable too. She said no mother should experience that, well she wasn't thinking about that before when she left her child in the vehicle. Police are often busy and the way he handles it was a great way to make sure it will never happen again. But I'm the type of person that if given no alternative I'll always chose a child's safety over an adults.
Donna Gregory: I second your opinion. In my state(VA) it is illegal to leave a child in a car unattended. My own mother did this when we were small, my 3 year old brother knocked her car out of gear and the car went rolling. Thank God that a friend of our father literally stopped the car and waited with us until mother returned. He made sure to inform my father who was furious. It wasnt the first time or the last, but we survived. I wouldnt even leave my teenagers alone in a car.
@@kballard27 , you'd need to call the police and explain things, or there might be some way that you could end up in trouble. In this situation, the police might play along with you to scare her.
“No mother should experience the fear…” She literally set up that situation to happen for real! If she is not taking precautions, that is the BEST way to get the message through
The second story: I definitely agree with what OP did. Clearly even after he explained the dangers to her, she couldn't get it through her head so I don't think much else would have stopped her from doing this again and again. And besides, even if they did argue about it over and over that's so much more stress over a much longer period of time than just doing what he did and being done with it. I don't think it was too far given her actions, especially not even locking the car.
The second story, I don’t think op went too far. She needed to learn her lesson. Sure he scared his wife do death, but he’s right. She was being incredibly irresponsible and her son could have easily been kidnapped due to her negligence.
I agree. He could have even gone further if needed. I grew up knowing a kid with severe brain damage because their mother left them in a vehicle cooking their brain. That kid was such a kind kid, but their life was irrevocably changed and shortened by a neglectful parent. I'll always remember and miss that great kid.
Sometimes a traumatic scare is what it takes to get the point across. Causing trauma to someone is commonly wrong, however some people don't learn if they don't experience at least a taste of what could be if they don't listen. Generally when you tell someone not to do something, they are either going to do it or want to do it. A majority are like that, while others take that as advise. It takes a wise man to learn from his mistakes, but an even wiser man to learn from others.
Second Story: Imagine you leave you're baby in the car to pop to the bank, but then something happens to you. No one will know the baby is there or where your car is. How long might it take the husband or police to find the baby?
#2: in most states, leaving a baby in the car JUST FOR A MOMENT can get baby taken away by CPS, and mommy in jail. The wife is lucky. OP is NTA. his wife is. #3: Why tell them to leave? Just call police immediately. EK and family are horrible people.
@GretchTheZ I don't know what year the story takes place in (I'd guess 70s or earlier). I can tell ya that my mother left me in the car more than once. One particular time, I managed to screw up a whole fire drill (from what I was told years later, it was generally ok to park in the spot my parents car was in, but not that day). when my mother returned to the car there was a crowd of people (firefighters included) trying to figure out how to move the car without waking me up. Another time, during an earthquake, my mother ran out of the apt trying to find a safer place, and guess who was left behind. she's dead now, but if you had asked her, she'd tell you she did nothing wrong, and it was safe to do all this.
Yep. I would have called police while standing out the front, explain the situation, and have them all trespassed. Possibly a restraining order as well.
As a mother, that woman deserved the lesson. You NEVER and I mean NEVER leave your child in the car, even for two seconds. I don't care how inconvenient it is, you take your kid in the store with you every single time.
Depends on where you live really. If it’s a shady country/area then yes. If it’s not then it won’t hurt to leave the baby a couple of minutes (not many minutes mind you) but make sure to lock the doors. 🤔😬
@@Emsev100 Nope, sorry. A predator or thief could be hanging out in the nicest areas, and it takes a carjacker only seconds to break into a car. There is NEVER a reason to leave a child unattended in a car, any more than leaving a baby on the front porch for "just a couple of minutes". Tragedies can happen so fast your head spins.
@@Emsev100 Probably not most of the time but you're still gambling with your child's life. No it doesn't depend on where you live. There are crazy people EVERYWHERE. The world is very dangerous and you don't gamble with your baby's life.
Six minutes and she was gone when he got there and while he was taking the baby into his car. That means approximately 10 minutes all together. She most definitely owes HIM an apology.
That dad is NOT the ahole. I would have done the SAME thing. That "mom" needs to learn to take her child with her and never live him behind. Its a tragedy waiting to happen. SMDH
Exactly. It's funny how everyone's so quick to give the father a hard time when he's concerned about his BABY getting kidnapped out of a car!!! If that were a man who left a baby in the car, everyone would be sympathetic to the woman!!! Ridiculous!
Kidnapping and heat stroke are some of my biggest fears as a mother and the idea of leaving them alone in a car is sickening... It is difficult to be a parent and leaving them in a car while you'll "just be a minute" is not some life hack it is a terrible idea...
@GretchTheZ But how old where you when they did? My mom did when I was 10 or so too but I also knew how to roll down the windows, keep the doors locked, and not talk to strangers. There is a point were it does become okay but this is a baby. If your parents left you in the car as a defenseless kid (0-9) then they are lucky you didn't die or get kidnapped... My oldest is 9 so yes I have concerns about leaving any of my 4 kids in the car at such young ages.
Story 1: in Australia (and I’m sure a lot of other countries!) we have Priority seats on all modes of transport (usually orange instead of purple/blue for Victoria) If someone that is not: Pregnant,Injured, limited walk/stand ability, or anything like that is sitting in one of those seats, they have to give it up to someone who *does* have one of those things. If they refuse, they get a fine.
STORY REGARDING THE PHOTO IN THE BEGINNING; OP went and talked to them! The contractor of that building built that neighbors house as well. There were a lot of cut corners and the couple (neighbors) had to spend over 40k ontop of the original house payment just to fix what was built horribly. So they were actually good people :)
I thought about something like that too ! Either it was a Karen, or a nice neighbour who have extra infos on the house that people should know before buying it ; or the seller was the Karen and the neighbour suspect they would lie in order to get a better deal
Can I just say that the dude who took his son out of his wife’s car was absolutely correct. Does his wife not see the news? Who leaves their BABY alone in an unlocked car? His wife wasn’t even keeping an eye on the vehicle from inside the store, as she didn’t see the dad take the boy out of the car. So, if it was a true kidnapping, it would 100% be on the mom who left the child in the car, after promising not to do it. Better a couple moments of “inconvenience” in taking the child out of their seat and returning him to his seat, than losing the child forever and need to live with that for the rest of your life. I wonder who she would have blamed for the loss of her child if that were to happen. She needed to feel that depth of panic, in a safe way, so that maybe she won’t need to feel the depth of loss and sorrow permanently.
Baby story: as a father, I can say with complete certainty that OP was not the asshole. The wife was the triple asshole here: (1) by leaving her son on the car... repeatedly!, putting her mere comfort and convenience over her son's safety... only an irresponsible egotistical monster does that, (2) by making a promise and breaking it, thus rendering her word worthless (promises and keeping your word are a HUGE deal for me), and (3) after being caught endangering her son AND breaking her promise, again putting herself on top of the situation by insisting that SHE needed an apology, while completely ignoring her breaking a promise and her endangering her son.
Story 2, OP already talked to her and she said she'd stop and then she didn't. OP needed to demonstrate WHY it's so important to not do that because she quite literally didn't listen to reason. That was absolutely the NEXT step and not an overreaction. Overreaction would probably be letting her call the cops. And she's LUCKY that it was OP that found them and not a cop or an actual kidnapper. If it was a cop, she'd be facing serious charges, if it was a kidnapper.. well that's the worst consequence, now isn't it. And she'd STILL be charged.
This happened 44 1/2 yrs ago, I was the heavily pregnant woman on the bus, it was a week & half before I actually delivered my son & I was on the bus early morning commute & I was heading to my dr’s appt. I was having some problems with the pregnancy, I ended up standing on the bus for a good 120+ “blocks”, completely surrounded by women, I never once asked someone to give up their seat for me, a week later I caught the same bus & was standing in the midst of several men who were sitting, they offered me a seat & I turned it down. One of the men stood up & they actually put me in the seat saying, no woman that pregnant should be standing. I thanked them & we all got to talking, imagine their surprise when they found out I was due anytime & that I had actually had to stand the week before. I’m almost 69 now, use a walker & still will not ask for a seat.
Ok so here's a thought for you: I'm legally blind, but I don't look like there's something wrong with me. if I have my white cane folded there is no way for you to know my sense of balance is utter crap and if I stand on the bus I run a very serious risk of fall9ing over. I have been in so many situations where people stare, huff, or outright scold me for not giving up my seat for them. I'm usually like mate, there are 30+ other people on this bus and at least ONE of them should have less of a reason to be seated than me, so get off my back! That said, if I can tell that someone is in dire need of a seat, due to being elderly, moving slowly or generally showing signs of having a really hard time of keeping their balance, i will offer my seat, unfold my white cane, and loudly say something along the lines of "I'm sorry it takes a blind person to see sense!"
It's a bit ridiculous to just target 1 person when you want to sit down. I'm glad I've never been on that side of things. I have trouble with one of my hips and can not stand on moving vehicles, last time I tried, an ambulance had to be called because I got injured pretty badly. Now I have a cane so people usually don't bother me... working hard to get rid of it but since aquiring the cane achievement, I no longer take transit.
I'm likely to get static for this but personally I think that OP expressing his view that the woman made several life choices of her own is NTA. He is vary correct that the woman made all those choices and neither his choice to remain seated or to make the comment that the woman made her own choices and that he isn't obliged to take action making up for those choices. I personally have a bad back caused by an accident at work which makes standing, walking, or even laying flat for any long periods torture. Will I give up a seat on a bus for an expectant woman? That depends on how long I've had for my back to recover and how long I will have to be standing and/or walking before I can sit again. And yes, any expectant woman using her condition to try and guilt me into deciding differently than the condition of my back demands will be told about their life choices. BTW, Just looking at me will give no clue about the condition of my back.
@@TheOneAndOnlyFen this. And it seems like people always manage to target someone who actually needs the seat. I was taking a bus with an injured shoulder and using my other arm to support the injured one from jostling too much. Which leaves me with exactly zero hands to balance with. I had someone try and force me out of my seat (which was not in the disabled/elderly/pregnant section) because "I can see there's nothing wrong with you", even though I was visibly wincing every time the bus went over a pothole. Like nah, I'm not moving. They refused to give a reason for why they needed the seat "because *HIPAA*", but demanded I tell them why I needed it. Yeah... On the way back nobody would give me a seat, despite now sporting a sling, and the only reason I didn't faceplant was another passenger caught me as I fell.
I don't think the dad taking his son out of his wife's car was in the wrong at all. I don't care if someone is just running inside a store for a quick minute you should never leave your child unattended in a car for any reason. He could have been a bigger asshole and left the parking lot completely and let her think her son was kidnapped but he didn't. I think it was a good little wake up call for the wife and hopefully she never does it again. I have 2 kids of my own yes it's annoying to have to take them in and out of the car but that's just something you have to do when you take your kids somewhere. Love your videos Peace and love to you and your family 💙💚💙💚💙💚
My question is, if she's running errands, why is the husband not parenting? If he's working, and she needs to run errands, then what? A baby sitter? Ok. The "the baby could be kidnapped" is fair but there's a whole reality of logistics too.
1st story - I guess OP was sitting in all the seats on the bus? Why did it have to be OP? No one else except the old man gave up their seat but they only screamed at OP. Why didn’t the woman ask someone else? 2nd story - nothing ever happens until it does. Wife needed a wake-up call about how her laziness and unwillingness to be the least bit inconvenienced to ensure the safety of the baby. This is a hill OP needs to die on since it can literally lead to the death or kidnapping of his son.
I totally agree with you on the 1st story. That was my thought to. OP told her politely why they didn't feel like giving up their seat. The pregnant woman should have respected that and asked someone else. Or someone else who heard his explanation should have offered. I also don't agree with Fluff that OP was an a-hole for "berating" the woman for getting pregnant. I agree with OP there. OP is not obligated to accommodate someone else's life choices, at OP's own detriment (the detriment being additional pain from standing on their feet again). In my opinion.
I agree. 1rst story the OP is NTA! and indeed it is a choice to make kids or not, parents are very often entitled just because they have kids, but I don't see how this is anyone else's responsibility.
In Australia it’s illegal to leave a child unattended in a vehicle & you would be charged with child endangerment!!! Blows my mind that anyone thinks it’s acceptable behaviour!!!
When I was around 34-35 weeks pregnant, my mom and I went Christmas shopping. While my mom was in line paying, I decided to use the chair (yes, they only had one) right outside the dressing rooms to rest for a bit from all the walking we had done. Anyway, a short time later, this older lady comes to me and asks if she could sit down because she was tired. I just said yes and got up. I think she hadn’t realized I was pregnant because when she finally sat down and was facing my belly directly, her eyes went wide and tried to get up and give me my seat back. I said it was fine, and not to worry, that my mom was almost done paying anyway. I don’t think she was entitled. Just a clueless old lady. I was lucky I wasn’t having any pains or swollen feet at the time, so it didn’t bother me too much.
@@reh3884 Dude. She never said her being pregnant trumped being old. She said she gave up the seat for the old lady and the *old lady* tried to give it back when she noticed OP was expecting... and OP didn't take the seat back.
Third story about the pool behind the house. If any one of those "intruders" had been injured in any way, the homeowner would have been legally liable - even though the "intruders" had never been invited. When my brother, whose house was rural, had a pool put in behind his house, his insurance agent warned him thoroughly about the potential liabilities. The pool, according to the agent, is what he called, "an attractive nuisance". The bare minimum my brother had to do was to put a chain link fence which had to be locked when the pool was not in use. Of course, my brother put it in and, thankfully, never had an issue.
2nd story: OP did the right thing. He didn’t let it go on for too long, just long enough. I hope she realizes soon that no matter what, your child shouldn’t be left in the car alone. I’m 20 and live with my dad, and whenever I stay in the car, he gives me the keys and says ‘lock the doors’ and if I don’t, I always get a lecture on how I need to lock the doors.
Totally agree with the OP in the 2nd story. He talked to her before about it and she had promised not to but low and behold she does it anyway. She would have continued as it’s convenient for her to just leave him in the car. She had to learn from her mistake and thank goodness it was her hubby that saw his baby left in the unlocked car and not someone else. She should be grateful and take it as lesson learned. She apparently has to learn the hard way.
First story: Unless he is sitting in a priority seating area (which is actually for those who are elderly or disabled (and pregnancy is NOT a disability)), he is under absolutely no obligation to move. The fact his sister and parents chewed him out show that they are the ahole not him. Again, unless you are elderly or physically disabled, you are not entitled to a seat on a bus. Fill stop. End of list. Period. 2nd story: What that mother did is actually a felony in many states. It is called child endangerment.
He’s not *the* asshole here, but he definitely is *an* asshole. Maybe that’s the way I was brought up, but even I with scoliosis and pain standing up for extended amounts of time, would have given my seat for the pregnant lady. (Had she continued being respectful about it, that is.) the moment she started insulting and crying is the moment I draw the line. Again, not THE asshole here, but I don’t think it’s very nice to purposefully ignore a pregnant woman asking to sit.
@@clownrat5759 from my pov, someone with pain from injuries like OP or a chronic condition like you have at least as much right to a seat as anyone burdened by pregnancy. Only healthy people have any moral incentive to offer their seat, and you can rarely see who's healthy or in pain on the outside in public.
@@clownrat5759 then be mad at all the other people on the bus who saw what was happening and none of them offered their seat. He said no she should’ve taken that. He was tired and had every righty to avoid (ignore) the situation he knew was coming.
@@clownrat5759 Sorry but she should have just moved on to another seat once she realized that he was not going to give up his seat. Also, why out of all the seats on the bus did he need to give up his seat? That is why I pretend to be asleep if I am ever on a bus. People leave you alone
Worked at a job that had me on my feet for 10 hours a day. So no I would not give my seat to anyone not disabled. I have also given birth to two 9lb babies never asked for a seat on a bus.
When it comes to your childs safety i dont believe there is such a thing as “too far”. That lady put her kid at risk because she was too lazy to bring him with, that’s awful
Absolutely! The EM was already warned. Charge her and all adults with criminal tresspass, and they pay for clean up. Get a restraining order against her too.
Yeah, police call immediately, report it, as if they get hurt, the property owners can be taken to court and they'll need documentation to protect themselves.
“No mother should have to go through that fear” then don’t freaking leave your kid alone with no supervision for possibly 10 min! So yeah, op is NTA, he wasn’t ‘cruel’. I would have been cruel and waited for police to show up first, so they can chew her out for endangering the kid like that too. Maybe he should have, cause she clearly still hasn’t learned her lesson
While I don't think lecturing strangers about their life choices is really necessary since we don't know their circumstances either (and pregnancy is necessary for upholding our species), the same goes for the pregnant woman who believes she's entitled to anyone's seat while not even asking if OP had their own circumstances. It's one thing to ask for a seat but another to act entitled before even knowing anything and acting like pregnancy means getting her a seat is the highest priority. I'm handicapped too but you don't really see it just going by my outward appearance. (For those in Germany, I have a GdB of 70 out of 100, which is nothing you get super easily or for just anything. Even 50 is sometimes extremely tough to get despite some people deserving it.) While I would give up my seat for people who are worse off, I wouldn't necessarily do so for a pregnant woman unless they seem to be struggling with their pregnancy a lot. And sore feet do not count here since my feet also tend to hurt a lot. It would be great if people in general would just stop assuming they need a seat more unless they're really needing help to even stand or cannot keep their balance due to eye conditions for example. Because no one can know what kind of handicap another person might have that's not necessarily visible on the outside. Or even a momentary weakness like the OP with their sore feet after working a really long day standing for a majority of it. Pregnancy is not an illness and while it can certainly come with a variety of heavy side effects that can be an illness too, just being pregnant by itself doesn't give her any rights or priority over everyone else who also have their pains. I don't think OP was acting entitled since they didn't say they deserved it more or anything nor saying they were a better person but simply that they're not responsible for her pregnancy (which is true but they could have kept that to themself since it doesn't really help the situation nor their argument). It can definitely be considered as rude to blame people for their life choices and lots of people don't have a choice but to take the bus on top. Few people enjoy it. Nevertheless, the entitled person was the pregnant woman since she acted entitled toward a seat. Rudeness doesn't equal entitlement and not wanting to give up their seat doesn't either. While OP's reaction was too fierce, they were not acting entitled but rather just defended their seat from the one actually acting entitled and also being rude in an attempt to force them to give up their seat.
What baffles me is that "the bus was full" and yet, he was to blame for not giving his seat, he, out of 30+ people that COULD ALSO give their seats... Sorry but, he isn't to blame at all, tho I do agree he was rude and savage, but most people kinda don't know how to react in the heat of the moment
On that second story about the baby, no you did not go too far she did. If somebody seen it and called the cops she would be in jail and that's where she needs to be.
The story behind that picture is they had the same builder, trusted them with inspection and have spent a ton of money fixing a TON of things. They’re trying to save people money. Plus the other house from what I understand had been under construction for a suspicious amount of time.
Yepp, have seen the whole picture somewhere. It's probably cheaper to crap the building than to fix it and that's what you could see just from the photography
@@holstorrsceadus1990 , might be owners did work neighbors knew was not up to Code. I worked in a hardware store, and the guys that had been in Electrical for years told me that people would do things in their home on the cheap. A local Fire Department guy said they'd put out a fire at a home that had been added onto and they wired it with lamp cord.
With the second story, she said that no mother should have to endure that. However, no father should have to endure that, too. She got herself into that one. I don't feel sorry for her, at all.
The first story, no you don't have to give up your seat. No one needs to get angry at you, because you are sitting at the front of the full bus, other people could give up their seats for this lady.
NO WAY was that too much. What she did in leaving her baby in the car all the time was so irresponsible. I hope she did learn her lesson. Children do get snatched. She should never forget this lesson. I would have flipped out if my husband did that to our children.
I actually know the story behind picture you showed with the “do not buy this house before talking to me” sign! The signs lady’s house was built by the same people who built and are trying to sell the house next to them. Apparently they did a horrible job with sign lady’s house and it was a waste of money and sign lady just wanted to warn others.
Yea, I commented that we didn't have enough info to judge. My thoughts were awful neighbors, a dictatorial HOA or problems with the house that weren't being disclosed. Otherwise the sign doesn't make sense. Idk why that one was included when there is likely a solid reason for it.
I'm with the lady in the first story. Pregnant people can be very entitled and they don't know what you are going through and they just expect you to accommodate them. I've been harassed in the bus and subway for not standing up for pregnant people, just because I "look" healthy and youngish But I have heart issues, a very bad knee and ankle and often get dizzy and nauseous, so yeah if I can snag a seat I do. Once I got yelled out by a mom because I wouldn't let her pregnant daughter sit, I was curled up in the seat with a slight fever and coughing my lungs out every few minutes as I was heading home after seeing the doctor (pre-corona, it was just a very bad cough, which I often get 'cause I had pneumonia as a baby so my lungs aren't particularly strong), and I wasn't even in a reserved seat, but I got yelled at for five minutes straight until I just looked at the lady, put on my head phones and turned my back to her.
Yup, the entitled one is the pregnant lady. She had every right to ask for the seat, but once OP politely declined, the story should have stopped there. But PL HAD TO turn on the waterworks and play the "woe is me" blame game. It is indeed her choice to be a single mom.
So OP was a lady? Couldn't remember. Just want to add, what if OP was pregnant? And just not showing yet? I agree, the pregnant lady was too entitled. She had a right to ask, but not demand. OP deserved their spot and not their fault she's pregnant and got on after OP. Its as if having to be on your feet for 10 hrs and then having to walk after the short bus ride isn't a valid reason to be able to sit. Old man is entitled, too. Not OPs fault he gave in to the pregnant lady and the bus driver had to stop quickly.
I was in ops situation but my head was killing me n my feet were hurting I told sorry before she threatened me n she was poking me hard on my chest than I told her 2 fuck off n well I said fat cows don't need a seat Edit 2 add I was 15 when this happen I'm 21 now
The difference is you have valid reasons to not give up your seat. You have issues standing or stabilising on a moving vehicle. The op in this storys only issue is they are tired and have sore feet. Yes some pregnant women act entitled and if you explained that you were in fact sick and had heart and knee issues then she should have left you alone. But this pregnant woman asked a perfectly health adult to give up their seat. And a decent person would of done so. So they got treated like the cunt they are.
@@Tb-bf5dw just saying, you shouldn’t have to explain that you are sick or have health issues to someone to justify not giving up a seat, that’s private info that not everyone feels okay divulging. In the story OP shouldn’t have to justify either, though what they said is a bit rude, but the old man and pregnant woman calling OP names are clearly rude too, so i feel everyone was a bit of an AH in the story.
The second story definitely angered me. I couldn't imagine leaving my daughter in the unlocked car even just to run in the gas station for 1 minute, let alone over 6. Maybe OP did let his wife's freak out go on too long, but that's child neglect at that point. I've seen people run into gas stations to pay for a pump or pick up a pack of smokes with children in the car (maybe 1 minute inside), but over 6 minutes is just gambling. It only takes 30 seconds to a minute to get a child out of a car seat, & even less to hop in and put it in reverse.
Second Story: The mother brought it on herself. If she had paid attention and did the normal thing and take the toddler with her, THEN there would be NO NEED for him to do that. Because, a toddler sitting in an unlocked car, by himself? Anyone could've taken him. Proof: THE FATHER DID!!
That second story has me alarmed and infuriated...at the mom who promised to never leave baby in car again, but did so anyway, and when caught, decided to double-down on it. Dad is well within his rights to divorce her and ask for sole custody, because we know she'll do it again. In fact, it may have been better to call the cops on her at that point if he was considering divorce and getting sole custody, considering she doesn't seem to be capable of understanding the dangers, and, in fact, is claiming victimhood herself. We've had a lot of carjackings in my state, some with kids in car. In our state, it is a vehicle code violation, but a judge can raise it to child endangerment, depending on the situation. I'm a parent myself, and I've seen, far too often, parents doing stupid and dangerous things that endanger their kids, yet they get so irate if you point it out, because they don't like being told how to parent.
If I was the pregnant woman from the first story, I would just go ask someone else for their seat, if I was given no for an answer. Some of these stories where one person is pestered for a seat makes me think they take place on some tiny buses.
I'm sick of the "I'm a single mom" excuse. What it really means is (A) you're a slut, and/or (B) you're too irresponsible to be allowed to breed and/or (C) you really think that having and using functional genitals makes you "special". Oh, and we USE to call them "unwed mothers" and it was something to be ashamed of, but of course we USE to be ashamed if a family member was in jail, too, now it seems to be a bragging point.
@@davidvanhorn3340 Dude, ever heard of being widowed or abusive relationships? Not all single parents are sluts. Yes, I'm including men here. Until you know WHY they're single, I suggest you don't judge.
Honestly as a woman who was pregnant 3 times and has run into issues of lack of seating many times being patient for a few more minutes until another person offered their seat isn't difficult. I've never asked someone else for a seat, someone is usually generous enough to offer one. And if they don't no biggie.
2nd story I 100% agree. People don't learn (at least most of the time) until it actually happens. hell, you saw that the wife said she'd stop doing it when OP asked/told her to. And did she? Nope. So clearly simply talking to her wouldn't have done anything
Baby in car: if she does it now, when I am assuming the weather is cool temps, what happens when it is summer and the temps are high? She going to leave him in there then? Carjackings, babynapping, he barf and choke on it, he find something within reach to put in his mouth, etc. She's an idiot and the trick he pulled should have shocked her into reality. Instead, she's not accepting any responsibility and instead is blaming the husband. That marriage will end soon and I hope the dad gets custody.
Taking his kid for the car when left alone is NOT going too far! She lied and was leaving their child alone in the car that is not only illegal it is so fucking dumb, there is stories all the time of children taken from cars, if you are the parent then you have the responsibility. She has no right to be angry, how would she feel if the child taken!
Story #3...I would have called the cops right away, informed them that there were trespassers who had invaded my home without permission, were destroying my property, and endangering multiple lives. THEN I would have started yelling at them.
Child left in car: OP absolutely did not go too far. He was right! He proved that anyone could have come by in the over 6 minutes she was in the gas station (it was 6 minutes AFTER he showed up, so God knows how long she was in there before OP showed up!) and taken the child out of her UNLOCKED car never to be seen again. If she were a rational human being, if she was indeed a loving mother, she would have acknowledged her mistake. But she's acting like she did nothing wrong. It almost seems like she is inviting someone to steal her baby. And let me ask OP: do you live in a state where the temperatures get extreme (very hot/cold)? Because a baby left in a car for any length of time in extreme temperatures can become seriously ill or die.
When I was pregnant with my first child I had to take the bus to and from work. I never asked anyone or demanded that anyone give me their seat. If someone offered depending how I was feeling I either accepted or declined.
I agree with OP in the 1st story. As a young girl, I'd stand up for the elderly and give up my seat, my siblings are I were raised that way. Later as a young working Mom, on my feet all day and with a severe back problem since I was 19, I needed to rest just as much as any pregnant mother, I was also a mother of two and also working without help at home. OP I FULLY SUPPORT YOU in this situation. Now as a grandmother, with heart problems, and major back problems, including surgery, I have a disabled sticker on my Mercedes, 2 door sports coupe, (just love driving with the roof down), I digress. Because of my back and severe sciatica, my Merc is an automatic and I know how to get in and out of her without straining or hurting my back. I always use a walking stick. A couple of months ago I parked in the disabled spot and another woman with a huge SUV type of vehicle was parked next to me.. Boy oh boy did I receive some dirty looks, here in S Africa, we do not have *KAREN AND KEVIN* people, which seems a regular occurrence in the USA, UK and parts Europe I get back to my Merc, only to find a real nasty sticker stuck onto my car. It amazes me how other people even disabled ones can judge another disabled just because of the vehicle a person is driving. Honestly some people do need to serious wakeup call. I earned my vehicles that I drive and hers is close in value to what mine is😡
I agree with OP in the second story taking his child out of the car. He waited for his wife to come out and prevented her from calling 911. She was in the wrong and should have been the one to apologize. This was a lesson that she needed to learn.
Story #2: OP was in the right. He was teaching his wife a big lesson! NEVER LEAVE YOUR BABY IN THE CAR... PERIOD! No matter if the town/city is safe, never leave the baby in the car OR even leave your car UNLOCK! His wife was just asking to get robbed, and for the baby to be kidnapped.
Not only that. It's extremely dangerous to leave your car unlocked. Anyone could sneak into your car. Possibly hide in the trunk. Since some people don't check the back seat or trunk regularly. Both of them could be gone.
Actually, here in Mexico there are reserved seats for pregnant women and elderly and people can sit in them but if either a pregnant woman or an older dude comes, you have to give your seat, it is mandatory!!...
#2 that woman has no clue. While hubby had the baby she was still in the store for 6 minutes, how long was the baby alone b4 dad pulled in. Maybe subconsciously she's hoping someone steals the baby because she doesn't want to be tied down or some other weird mental illness. I don't know very many people with any kind of sense who repeatedly leaves a child in the car like that. bad parents do that stuff. People go to jail in California for leaving their kids in a car
First story: Yeah no. You only get respect as long as you give it. The moment you start calling people names because they didn't give you what you wanted is the moment you stop deserving to be treated with respect. That line about pregnancy being a choice was perfect and she deserved to hear it.
Sorry fluff but the pregnant woman was guilt tripping the guy before he commented. He was on his feet all day working and was probably looking forward to sitting down. If the woman hadn’t tried guilt tripping OR he hadn’t worked on his feet all day it would be a different kettle of fish… but circumstances matter. I got guilt tripped on a bus the one time by this old woman even through I’m disabled and had crutches. Her opinion was I could have held onto the bars. Yeah, right. Guilt trippers have paid the same as the tripee… they snooze, they lose.
Wtf? No way that father went too far. If he had just taken off without telling his wife that he had the baby, THAT would be too far. But that's a lesson that damn sure needed to be learned before something legit bad happened.
Another Comment for the “Daddy’s Tyrannical Daughter the Movie”. If my Dad would have owned a Business like that I’d of been working in it as soon as I was old enough, without pay, because my Dad is just like that.
The pregnant lady should have let it go. Obviously the guy was tired and after saying no, she could have moved on and asked someone else. But no. She had to belabour the point and keep on harassing this poor person. No means no. Deal with it.
We have priority seats for elderly and pregnant people in the busses here, as well as a wheelchair spot. If the bus is very full and no elderly or pregnant people are on the bus, you can sit there with no issue. But you are expected to give up those priority seat for elderly and pregnant women when they get on the bus. As for the second story: OP was completely in the right here, but maybe should have ended the stressful situation a little quicker. Or maybe kept their car next to the wife's car during the entire thing. That being said, the wife has no right to be this pissed and entitled when she frequently endangers their small child. If she continues to do this, OP needs to refuse letting her take the kid anywhere without them present the entire time. Possible divorce and/or child services would have to get involved. OP should tell her she's lucky he hasn't gotten law enforcement or child services involved for endangering the kid. She is in no way the victim here.
This doesn’t sound like they had priority seats. She just picked on OP. Funny how no one else on the bus was offering the lady their seat, so no OP wasn’t the only one who shared the opinion that you have to give up your seat to pregnant people.
@@bautistalover I didn't say that the bus in the story had those priority seats. I meant that we don't have that issue on our busses because of those priority seats and the rules around those. Each bus has 8 priority seats for elderly and pregnant people, as well as one spot dedicated to people in a wheelchair. The wheelchair spot actually has a tiered priority. Wheelchairs have top priority for that spot. If no wheelchairs are on the bus, the priority goes to strollers and such. If neither of those are on the bus, anyone else can sit there. I have noticed that if you have a big amount of luggage or luggage that takes up a lot of space, people tend to give you slightly better access to the priority seats (provided that elderly, pregnant, wheelchairs or strollers don't take up the spaces/aren't on the bus). The rules around seating in our busses are catering to those who need it. So issues like these are not really happening here. If the situation took place in our busses, OP would have been expected to give up their seat and that might also have been enforced due to the rules. Unless the priority seats were in use by people that don't have priority for those seats, OP would have to give up their seat. No matter how many hours of walking they had throughout the day. But the pregnant lady would still be expected to be polite about it. It seems the bus OP was on didn't have that priority seating, otherwise this issue would not have existed.
@@BeepBoopBee gotcha. Even in the US for the buses where they have priority seats if they are legit filled the lady would be out of luck. Any non priority seat is based upon the kindness of others.
@@BeepBoopBee unfortunately that doesn't work most of the time. In both my pregnancy's i was offered seats twice and only by elderly people, which i declined. I never asked though. I sometimes ask for my 3 year old as he can't hold on as good as i do and even then almost no one listenes or just grunts at you. It was completely entitled of the woman to act like this and i was raised that as a healthy person you stand up for elderly, pregnant, children or disabled people (not in this order) but my mom made sure i knew to not do so if someone was rude while asking. We also have priority sitting here. Had to stand for 4 hours one time in the train while 8 month pregnant and no one wanted to stand up for me.
Story 2, the father was RIGHT to do what he did. While she’s in the store someone driving could have hit the car with the baby in it. No matter where you park, something can happen & no one would see anything. Her momentary horror was that & she was lucky.
With our first son, my [ex] wife would turn away from our son in the shopping 🛒... so one day at Kmart I took our baby son out of the cart while she had her back turned! Needless to say, she freaked out and when the panicking set in, I brought our son out from our hiding place. She tried to get mad at me. I told her it was her fault for not watching our son. I told her I'd been watching her talking to the store manager for 5 minutes before she even noticed that our son was gone!
As far as OP taking his son out of the car, I agree 100%! My mother loved spending time with my kids but she’d do the same thing. I removed my daughter from my mother’s (running!) car and waited for her to come out of the store. She got incredibly angry with me but I told her better me than a stranger. I never let her take my daughter anyplace alone ever again. (She had previously promised to never do that again.)
Sick of the entitlement single parents claim. Lost my job of 10 years ,when the company had to downsize, to a coworker who had only been there 2 years "cause she's a single parent and you don't have kids " didn't matter I had more experience
I normally agree with you, but I feel you were wrong on the kid on the bus story. If the pregnant woman and the old man can berate the poster, the poster can question her life choices out loud. Offense is taken and she took a double helping and still had some for the old guy.
Story 4: Using children to convince someone to give money and then use the money for random unreleased stuff? And then continue to use the children for emotion blackmail? Wow, that's foul
First story…now I get very sore feet so I know how bad it can get, so I support the hard working passenger. Was there no other able person on the bus at all??
No, he didn't go far enough with grabbing the baby from the car!!! Leaving kiddo alone for over 6 minutes?!? It gives me heartburn just thinking about it
Story 1: Fluff, I disagree qith you entirely, speaking the truth is not wrong. She kept badgering him to get a seat and pointing out valid truths is not shaming someone forgetting pregnant. We all must deal and live with the choices we make. Now if I was asked nicely, I would probably give up my seat but if I refuse then a person must be respectful of that. He declined and she wouldn't accept his answer which is rude.
i agree with you happens to me as well few times a month, not by pregnant womens but by snotty brat teens that they think they own the bus, unless they come acros me, and let me tell you i have put every single brat in shame on the bus, i have also advantage i know 90% off the bus drivers male and female and they know me.
OP just worked a 10 hour shift standing up most of the time, no way am I badgering him on sitting down or not. I also stand for around 8 hours a shift but at least most of the time there are mats to soften the floor. The lady seemed to pick on OP just because they were young? like there cant only be 2 seats on a bus go ask someone else. If they say no then it means no. It doesn't matter their reasons its their choice.
Story 1: disagree. OP's rudeness was a response to entitlement. Don't assume that a sitting person isn't disabled, or very sore or tired; and always ask nicely. Story 2: disagree. The mother was being extremely irresponsible. The father was desperate to save his son's life, and the mother wouldn't listen to common sense. Sometimes people need a shock to wake them up. Story 3: completely agree.
If OP in story 1 was disabled they could have just said "sorry, I need this seat" instead of going on a tirade about the mother's choices in life, that they know nothing about, maybe it wasn't even her choice.
Story 2: Op want too far? What?? He didn't go far enough! He should've left her there outright panicking until police showed up, and just to cover his ass he should've left a note in the baby seat on her car telling her he took the kid because she left him in the car alone again! Then pull up mid police interview and calmly explain his actions. Police would've been stern with her about the dangers of leaving a child alone like that and lesson would've sunk in THEN! As it sounds that lady reels entitlement, smh.
I disagree, I do not believe OP was the asshole. He worked all day on his feet. He was tired and sore, his feet hurt, and he had to walk another 15 - 20 minutes to get home after getting off the bus. He would be if the lady was disabled, but she wasn't. She was single and Pregnant. Quite capable of sitting anywhere on the bus.
Story 1: Can totally relate, as should the mother to be. OP explained his reason and she could have asked someone else. Unless it's priority seating, he had no obligation.
@clown rat Lol. Yeh, maybe his comment could've been kept to himself, but then we all react differently, especially after a hard day's work. Family could've been a bit more understanding!
@@mospeada1152 Yeah. Maybe it’s the way I was raised but purposefully ignoring a pregnant woman asking for a seat is rude in my eyes. I have severe scoliosis pain when I stand for too long but even I would’ve offered a seat. Definitely not the asshole for getting pissed when the lady got rude, but a bit of an ass for how it was handled.
@@clownrat5759 honestly that’s what I think too, OP could have said what he said differently, but since we are human, we are not perfect, that being said he did work an 10 hour shift and was possibly cranky for not only suffering but also for being exhausted
@@lugismansion2400 hey if someone wants to throw a pity party for being a single parent they deserve everything they get. She was being manipulative when she brought that up.
For the first story I don't think that he has the AH for saying that she made a choice to get pregnant, and take the bus. Since it's true, she chose to get pregnant, and shouldn't expect special treatment for that choice. Taking it when offered is great, but if it's not, you shouldn't call someone rude for not giving it to you, after you asked. I've also heard/read stories where an OP said something similar, and since it was a situation where the pregnant lady was acting even more entitled, and people cheered them on for pointing that out. Plus she called him rude before he said that, even though he hadn't been at all, and she just wasn't letting the seat go. So he retaliated to her rude behavior with the same energy she was giving. He shouldn't be expected to empathize with someone, who cannot empathize with why he may be keeping his seat. It's a two way street
First post, I don’t think OP is TA because generally when people are exhausted, they are generally pretty cranky. Yes I don’t agree with what OP said, but why was he only singled out when she could have asked literally anyone else?
1rst story : a lot of contries do have policy which request passenger to give their sits to pregnant woman. So also depend or where this story takes places, OP didn't mention.
The real question is: What about the other passengers? If the bus was full, then there were several people who could have given up their seats, but apparently they all sat there uninvolved while OP was treated like a monster.🤨
I would never be able to trust her around my children. Mother or not. She continuously left her baby in an unlocked care with no regard. I would have been home with my son by the time she came out of the store. 6 MINUTES
On the second one, going too far would be calling the cops and pushing for her to be charged with any or all of the multiple crimes she is committing by leaving their helpless child in the car alone. He did not go too far. Hopefully that feeling that she says no mother should ever experience, will stick with her anytime she thinks about repeating this.
Given the wife did not actually apologize or learn their lesson it’s obvious the Op should have called the cops because she is a danger to his child. No the wife did not learn anything. If she did she wouldn’t be demanding an “apology”
1st and 4th story: if you are NOT financially stable to have children, do not reproduce. It is not your friends'/family's responsibility to accommodate to your pregnancy/children. I get it, things and life can get pretty crazy, but still you should learn to make do and better the lives of yours and your future/current children instead of constantly beg and guilttrip to get it your way. Idc If this makes me sound like the AH, I know too many people who pull that crap (who are also in my family) and the entire family is suffering for it mentally and emotionally, including their kids.
In a hurry or not I've never left my kid in the car even just getting gas. And would I have done what he did to his wife? You damn right and she would be hearing about it for a while.
In most states, now it’s illegal to leave a child especially an infant in a car without a parent present or an adult because of situations where people just take the car and drive off with children in the back, I don’t think OP went out of line at all because he talk to her about it, and she still didn’t do it sometimes the best teacher is experience and if a cop had seen the she definitely would’ve been charged with neglect
The one with the baby did NOT go too far. You're absolutely wrong on that one. She kept leaving him alone in the car. She said she'd stop, but she didn't. On top of not stopping, the car wasn't even locked. She needed to feel the full weight of her ignorance in not listening to her husband about the safety of their child. He didn't go too far. She was too stupid to listen to him and paid the price.
Exactly! I agree. His wife was just asking to get robbed, and for her child to be kidnapped. Unbelievable! That woman should NOT be a mother if she's going to risk the life of children like that. Even in a safe town/city, you NEVER leave a baby alone, nor should you leave the car unlocked!
There is a story that was in the news recently about a guy carjacking a car and then murdering the baby that was in it. This woman is insane.
@GretchTheZ If he calls the police, there's going to be charges laid (not by the husband). Keep them the HELL out of your familial arguments AT ALL COSTS.
Now ... How he really needs to illustrate his point is to sit her down and calmly and rationally explain his point of view, why he did what he did and the potential outcomes in DETAIL. Immediately followed by the simple question: How would you explain to the police that you left our child unattended to allow this to even possibly happen ? How would you explain this to ME if this hadn't been me spotting your car and our son was ACTUALLY taken ?
@@CautelousOne she needs jailtime.
@GretchTheZ that is not the answer. She may have some post partum depression going on. So she needs counseling and parenting classes. Maybe a nanny while it gets figured out. No baby should ever be left in the car locked or not.
What OP's wife did is a criminal offense in Florida. There have been children kidnapped this way or died of heat stroke after only ten or fifteen minutes.
And had it been a FATHER who pulled that, everyone would have sympathetic and no one would have said his wife went "too far". That's ridiculous!
I used to live in So. FL. You remember the story about the Mom who put her son in his car seat & then unloaded her groceries into the trunk? The car was stolen while she was doing that. When the thief noticed the son in the back seat, he left the son, on the side of a road, still strapped into his car seat. Thankfully, the thief realized he would have been charged with kidnapping besides car theft... that's why he left the son somewhere.
It's the same in Australia, serious child neglect
@@dinarusso3320 AMEN fathers are second class citizens in this country
@@dinarusso3320 any parents that do this are terrible.
Are you saying it's ok to leave a child in a car? that seems the only reason why you would defend her.
Stand up for dads that do the right thing and are good parents
I agree with what the OP did in the second story. If a parent can take a baby from an unlocked car think about what can happen if a woman who wanted a baby took a baby from the car?
Yeah me too, where I lived it's illegal to let your child unsupervised in a car before the age of 12, even for 5 minutes.
@@YumeBuru Yeah, I heard too many stories of women who either can't have kids or wanted a baby to trap a spouse or a boyfriend and took a baby from a hospital or a when a mother wasn't paying attention.
Like I remember the worse story where a woman nearly got away with a baby in a stroller and actually took advantage of the crowd to attack/detain the father thinking he was a stocker.
I mean hell the story can be fake, but just the story from what I remember it was super depressing because this is all in the POV of the Father. Who despite came into the (Parking lot... or Park) with his Wife, she had to run back into the store because she forgot something, and that Random Woman almost got away.
I agree with the father. She said she’d never again leave their child in the car alone and what does she do? Leaves the baby alone in an unlocked car! For more than 6 minutes! That’s child endangerment and shows what a lazy ahole she is for lying to her husband. And like everyone who has no defense for their bad behavior, they get mad a the person who has a valid gripe.
Here we can end up with child services at the door and long court cases. Why i dragged my son into servo shop to pay for petrol
The real question in the 1st story is: What about the other passengers?
If the bus was full, then there were several people who could have given up their seats, but apparently they all sat there uninvolved while OP was treated like a monster.🤔
right? the pregnant woman could have at least gotten herself knocked up by a guy with a car
idk about other places but in my country there are 4-8 designated spots for people with disabilities, pregnant or older people. If you choose to sit there and someone comes along that needs that seat you are required to give up your seat. But with any other seat you're definitely not required to do that.
My thoughts on the matter exactly! When OP declined, go to someone else and try again. I think ignoring the woman was a bad approach. Before the woman even had a chance to ask, it would have been better to look right at her and say something like "I'd give you my seat but I've been standing/walking all day and need this seat". That way, it's defused before it even starts. Sometimes the best defense is a preemptive attack.
Yeah, it was an "everyone sucks". Here in Quebec, old people, handicap and pregnant woman have priorities (we have a rule about it and poster are in the windows about it). I even live a situation where a bus driver bark at passengers to give their seat to an old man. (I didn't have a seat to give).
Well, there is a common rule in my country, that you should free your seat for pregnant, old or disabled. And we have designated spots for this people, so if you taken this spot - you must release it.
Number 2. He nailed it! She needed a wake up call. She got it.
Story number two: As a police officer, I agree with OP. He asked her not to do it, he explained to her his concerns and she totally ignored them. He is right, anyone could’ve taken that child. He, as the father, had a right to protect his child and to teach her a lesson. It would’ve been worse for her if it had not been for him. I have dealt with many disasters dealing with children and ignorant irresponsible parents! Maybe she doesn’t understand that there is a market for selling babies and small children. She needs to get over herself real quick. If that was my child, I would not trust her!
I wouldn't either.
OP was correct. He should also get full custody via divorce proceedings. Unfortunately, it's only through a divorce that ANY parent can invoke parental rights over the other parent. Otherwise, he is negligently leaving his child in the care of an irresponsible person. If she was a babysitter, she'd get sued (or at least sacked from the job with no references).
Just a few years ago, a mom made that mistake at a local gas station. Not only did he steal the car / child, it ended up in a high speed chase on the highway.
The kid was physically OK, but you can imagine there are lasting effects from that day.
So you spend every single minute with your kid? No showers, no toilet, food prep, errands, nothing? Never? Ever? I doubt it. I guess growing up Gen X as a latch-key kid means we were left alone quite a bit. Must be why some kids turned out to be helicopters.
PS - If that was my husband, he would have been dead because I would have murdered him in a blind rage.
@@dawnbengtsson3418 So, it happened 1 out of 331,000,000 ? Should have bought a lottery ticket. The odds are better.
2nd story, leaving a baby in the car by himself, that’s divorce grounds. He did not go too far. He told her to stop, and she didn’t. She learned a hard lesson.
Did she actually learn anything? She wanted OP to apologize. If it were to happen again, he should call the police and divorce her. He would have no problem getting custody.
Right? I’d actually leave someone over that. If you can’t keep our kid safe and try to make me feel like the bad guy for keeping our kid safe, and constantly show unsafe behaviours regarding our kid, I’m leaving and taking the kid with me and going for full custody
The way she acted after she found out that it was the father who got the kid shows that she didn't learn anything.
Not only divorce grounds that's grounds for full custody
I agree!
Second Story: OP definitely wasn’t the AH, but I feel like he needs to talk to police and scare his wife straight about leaving the baby in the car and the charges she could face.
That was (*IN MY VIEW*) child abandonment, and i think that op did go to far, but she deserve it a bit,she has to realize the danger of this
The way he did it was acceptable too. She said no mother should experience that, well she wasn't thinking about that before when she left her child in the vehicle. Police are often busy and the way he handles it was a great way to make sure it will never happen again. But I'm the type of person that if given no alternative I'll always chose a child's safety over an adults.
Donna Gregory: I second your opinion. In my state(VA) it is illegal to leave a child in a car unattended. My own mother did this when we were small, my 3 year old brother knocked her car out of gear and the car went rolling. Thank God that a friend of our father literally stopped the car and waited with us until mother returned. He made sure to inform my father who was furious. It wasnt the first time or the last, but we survived. I wouldnt even leave my teenagers alone in a car.
i AGREE with you i would've done it by taking the baby home and to bed and wait for her to call IF SHE EVER DID!
@@kballard27 , you'd need to call the police and explain things, or there might be some way that you could end up in trouble. In this situation, the police might play along with you to scare her.
“No mother should experience the fear…” She literally set up that situation to happen for real! If she is not taking precautions, that is the BEST way to get the message through
The second story: I definitely agree with what OP did. Clearly even after he explained the dangers to her, she couldn't get it through her head so I don't think much else would have stopped her from doing this again and again. And besides, even if they did argue about it over and over that's so much more stress over a much longer period of time than just doing what he did and being done with it. I don't think it was too far given her actions, especially not even locking the car.
The second story, I don’t think op went too far. She needed to learn her lesson. Sure he scared his wife do death, but he’s right. She was being incredibly irresponsible and her son could have easily been kidnapped due to her negligence.
This is the danger he warned her about. I can’t believe anyone thought he went to far…. She literally proven why…. 6 minutes… no sympathy
I agree. He could have even gone further if needed. I grew up knowing a kid with severe brain damage because their mother left them in a vehicle cooking their brain. That kid was such a kind kid, but their life was irrevocably changed and shortened by a neglectful parent. I'll always remember and miss that great kid.
Another senerio, what if a police officer had pulled up. She might have been arrested, and CPS called. What would she have done then?
Your right... He should have done more! Maybe call the police and report her for neglect or something. She fucked up and deserves no sympathy.
Sometimes a traumatic scare is what it takes to get the point across.
Causing trauma to someone is commonly wrong, however some people don't learn if they don't experience at least a taste of what could be if they don't listen.
Generally when you tell someone not to do something, they are either going to do it or want to do it.
A majority are like that, while others take that as advise.
It takes a wise man to learn from his mistakes, but an even wiser man to learn from others.
Second Story: Imagine you leave you're baby in the car to pop to the bank, but then something happens to you. No one will know the baby is there or where your car is. How long might it take the husband or police to find the baby?
This is a different take that I didn’t even think of!
#2: in most states, leaving a baby in the car JUST FOR A MOMENT can get baby taken away by CPS, and mommy in jail. The wife is lucky. OP is NTA. his wife is. #3: Why tell them to leave? Just call police immediately. EK and family are horrible people.
You're right on both counts.
people didn't use to call the police back then
@GretchTheZ I don't know what year the story takes place in (I'd guess 70s or earlier). I can tell ya that my mother left me in the car more than once. One particular time, I managed to screw up a whole fire drill (from what I was told years later, it was generally ok to park in the spot my parents car was in, but not that day). when my mother returned to the car there was a crowd of people (firefighters included) trying to figure out how to move the car without waking me up. Another time, during an earthquake, my mother ran out of the apt trying to find a safer place, and guess who was left behind. she's dead now, but if you had asked her, she'd tell you she did nothing wrong, and it was safe to do all this.
Yep. I would have called police while standing out the front, explain the situation, and have them all trespassed. Possibly a restraining order as well.
That second OP did not go too far. Whatever cruelty the mom feels is nothing compared to actually endangering her kid.
Yeah, waah, poor mommy. She's damn lucky it was her husband that saw that baby and not some perv or car thief.
Story #2: She's lucky someone didn't call the cops and/or CPS! Unbelievable!
As a mother, that woman deserved the lesson. You NEVER and I mean NEVER leave your child in the car, even for two seconds. I don't care how inconvenient it is, you take your kid in the store with you every single time.
Depends on where you live really. If it’s a shady country/area then yes. If it’s not then it won’t hurt to leave the baby a couple of minutes (not many minutes mind you) but make sure to lock the doors. 🤔😬
@@Emsev100 Nope, sorry. A predator or thief could be hanging out in the nicest areas, and it takes a carjacker only seconds to break into a car. There is NEVER a reason to leave a child unattended in a car, any more than leaving a baby on the front porch for "just a couple of minutes". Tragedies can happen so fast your head spins.
@@rickraber1249 And in 15 seconds after the carjacking happens the kidnapper is long gone
@@Emsev100 Probably not most of the time but you're still gambling with your child's life. No it doesn't depend on where you live. There are crazy people EVERYWHERE. The world is very dangerous and you don't gamble with your baby's life.
Six minutes and she was gone when he got there and while he was taking the baby into his car. That means approximately 10 minutes all together. She most definitely owes HIM an apology.
And we don’t know how long she was in there before OP showed up
That dad is NOT the ahole. I would have done the SAME thing. That "mom" needs to learn to take her child with her and never live him behind. Its a tragedy waiting to happen. SMDH
Exactly. It's funny how everyone's so quick to give the father a hard time when he's concerned about his BABY getting kidnapped out of a car!!! If that were a man who left a baby in the car, everyone would be sympathetic to the woman!!! Ridiculous!
Kidnapping and heat stroke are some of my biggest fears as a mother and the idea of leaving them alone in a car is sickening... It is difficult to be a parent and leaving them in a car while you'll "just be a minute" is not some life hack it is a terrible idea...
@GretchTheZ But how old where you when they did? My mom did when I was 10 or so too but I also knew how to roll down the windows, keep the doors locked, and not talk to strangers. There is a point were it does become okay but this is a baby. If your parents left you in the car as a defenseless kid (0-9) then they are lucky you didn't die or get kidnapped... My oldest is 9 so yes I have concerns about leaving any of my 4 kids in the car at such young ages.
Story 1: in Australia (and I’m sure a lot of other countries!) we have Priority seats on all modes of transport (usually orange instead of purple/blue for Victoria) If someone that is not: Pregnant,Injured, limited walk/stand ability, or anything like that is sitting in one of those seats, they have to give it up to someone who *does* have one of those things. If they refuse, they get a fine.
STORY REGARDING THE PHOTO IN THE BEGINNING;
OP went and talked to them! The contractor of that building built that neighbors house as well. There were a lot of cut corners and the couple (neighbors) had to spend over 40k ontop of the original house payment just to fix what was built horribly.
So they were actually good people :)
I told my fiance that this was likely the reason when i first saw it
I was going to comment that something like this might be the reason for the sign
I thought about something like that too ! Either it was a Karen, or a nice neighbour who have extra infos on the house that people should know before buying it ; or the seller was the Karen and the neighbour suspect they would lie in order to get a better deal
Can I just say that the dude who took his son out of his wife’s car was absolutely correct. Does his wife not see the news? Who leaves their BABY alone in an unlocked car? His wife wasn’t even keeping an eye on the vehicle from inside the store, as she didn’t see the dad take the boy out of the car. So, if it was a true kidnapping, it would 100% be on the mom who left the child in the car, after promising not to do it. Better a couple moments of “inconvenience” in taking the child out of their seat and returning him to his seat, than losing the child forever and need to live with that for the rest of your life. I wonder who she would have blamed for the loss of her child if that were to happen. She needed to feel that depth of panic, in a safe way, so that maybe she won’t need to feel the depth of loss and sorrow permanently.
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Baby story: as a father, I can say with complete certainty that OP was not the asshole. The wife was the triple asshole here: (1) by leaving her son on the car... repeatedly!, putting her mere comfort and convenience over her son's safety... only an irresponsible egotistical monster does that, (2) by making a promise and breaking it, thus rendering her word worthless (promises and keeping your word are a HUGE deal for me), and (3) after being caught endangering her son AND breaking her promise, again putting herself on top of the situation by insisting that SHE needed an apology, while completely ignoring her breaking a promise and her endangering her son.
So dad should parent while she runs errands. Problem solved.
Story 2, OP already talked to her and she said she'd stop and then she didn't. OP needed to demonstrate WHY it's so important to not do that because she quite literally didn't listen to reason. That was absolutely the NEXT step and not an overreaction. Overreaction would probably be letting her call the cops. And she's LUCKY that it was OP that found them and not a cop or an actual kidnapper. If it was a cop, she'd be facing serious charges, if it was a kidnapper.. well that's the worst consequence, now isn't it. And she'd STILL be charged.
Hell the car wouldn't even have to be unlocked. A kidnapper could just break the window, open the door and kidnap the kid.
Story 2. As a dad I 1000% agree with the dad. I would do that ever time.
This happened 44 1/2 yrs ago, I was the heavily pregnant woman on the bus, it was a week & half before I actually delivered my son & I was on the bus early morning commute & I was heading to my dr’s appt. I was having some problems with the pregnancy, I ended up standing on the bus for a good 120+ “blocks”, completely surrounded by women, I never once asked someone to give up their seat for me, a week later I caught the same bus & was standing in the midst of several men who were sitting, they offered me a seat & I turned it down. One of the men stood up & they actually put me in the seat saying, no woman that pregnant should be standing. I thanked them & we all got to talking, imagine their surprise when they found out I was due anytime & that I had actually had to stand the week before. I’m almost 69 now, use a walker & still will not ask for a seat.
Ok so here's a thought for you: I'm legally blind, but I don't look like there's something wrong with me. if I have my white cane folded there is no way for you to know my sense of balance is utter crap and if I stand on the bus I run a very serious risk of fall9ing over. I have been in so many situations where people stare, huff, or outright scold me for not giving up my seat for them. I'm usually like mate, there are 30+ other people on this bus and at least ONE of them should have less of a reason to be seated than me, so get off my back! That said, if I can tell that someone is in dire need of a seat, due to being elderly, moving slowly or generally showing signs of having a really hard time of keeping their balance, i will offer my seat, unfold my white cane, and loudly say something along the lines of "I'm sorry it takes a blind person to see sense!"
i agree with you there
It's a bit ridiculous to just target 1 person when you want to sit down. I'm glad I've never been on that side of things. I have trouble with one of my hips and can not stand on moving vehicles, last time I tried, an ambulance had to be called because I got injured pretty badly. Now I have a cane so people usually don't bother me... working hard to get rid of it but since aquiring the cane achievement, I no longer take transit.
I'm likely to get static for this but personally I think that OP expressing his view that the woman made several life choices of her own is NTA. He is vary correct that the woman made all those choices and neither his choice to remain seated or to make the comment that the woman made her own choices and that he isn't obliged to take action making up for those choices. I personally have a bad back caused by an accident at work which makes standing, walking, or even laying flat for any long periods torture. Will I give up a seat on a bus for an expectant woman? That depends on how long I've had for my back to recover and how long I will have to be standing and/or walking before I can sit again. And yes, any expectant woman using her condition to try and guilt me into deciding differently than the condition of my back demands will be told about their life choices. BTW, Just looking at me will give no clue about the condition of my back.
@@TheOneAndOnlyFen this. And it seems like people always manage to target someone who actually needs the seat. I was taking a bus with an injured shoulder and using my other arm to support the injured one from jostling too much. Which leaves me with exactly zero hands to balance with. I had someone try and force me out of my seat (which was not in the disabled/elderly/pregnant section) because "I can see there's nothing wrong with you", even though I was visibly wincing every time the bus went over a pothole. Like nah, I'm not moving. They refused to give a reason for why they needed the seat "because *HIPAA*", but demanded I tell them why I needed it. Yeah... On the way back nobody would give me a seat, despite now sporting a sling, and the only reason I didn't faceplant was another passenger caught me as I fell.
I don't think the dad taking his son out of his wife's car was in the wrong at all. I don't care if someone is just running inside a store for a quick minute you should never leave your child unattended in a car for any reason. He could have been a bigger asshole and left the parking lot completely and let her think her son was kidnapped but he didn't. I think it was a good little wake up call for the wife and hopefully she never does it again. I have 2 kids of my own yes it's annoying to have to take them in and out of the car but that's just something you have to do when you take your kids somewhere. Love your videos Peace and love to you and your family 💙💚💙💚💙💚
My question is, if she's running errands, why is the husband not parenting?
If he's working, and she needs to run errands, then what? A baby sitter?
Ok.
The "the baby could be kidnapped" is fair but there's a whole reality of logistics too.
1st story - I guess OP was sitting in all the seats on the bus? Why did it have to be OP? No one else except the old man gave up their seat but they only screamed at OP. Why didn’t the woman ask someone else?
2nd story - nothing ever happens until it does. Wife needed a wake-up call about how her laziness and unwillingness to be the least bit inconvenienced to ensure the safety of the baby. This is a hill OP needs to die on since it can literally lead to the death or kidnapping of his son.
I totally agree with you on the 1st story. That was my thought to. OP told her politely why they didn't feel like giving up their seat. The pregnant woman should have respected that and asked someone else. Or someone else who heard his explanation should have offered. I also don't agree with Fluff that OP was an a-hole for "berating" the woman for getting pregnant. I agree with OP there. OP is not obligated to accommodate someone else's life choices, at OP's own detriment (the detriment being additional pain from standing on their feet again). In my opinion.
Exactly right!!
@@the_Pons agreed
15 minutes on a hot day is enough to kill a kid left in a car. They cannot regulate body heat as well as an adult.
I agree. 1rst story the OP is NTA! and indeed it is a choice to make kids or not, parents are very often entitled just because they have kids, but I don't see how this is anyone else's responsibility.
The 2nd story:
Hopefully it was the hard reality check the mom needed. You don't leave a baby in a car by themselves.
In Australia it’s illegal to leave a child unattended in a vehicle & you would be charged with child endangerment!!! Blows my mind that anyone thinks it’s acceptable behaviour!!!
When I was around 34-35 weeks pregnant, my mom and I went Christmas shopping. While my mom was in line paying, I decided to use the chair (yes, they only had one) right outside the dressing rooms to rest for a bit from all the walking we had done. Anyway, a short time later, this older lady comes to me and asks if she could sit down because she was tired. I just said yes and got up. I think she hadn’t realized I was pregnant because when she finally sat down and was facing my belly directly, her eyes went wide and tried to get up and give me my seat back. I said it was fine, and not to worry, that my mom was almost done paying anyway.
I don’t think she was entitled. Just a clueless old lady. I was lucky I wasn’t having any pains or swollen feet at the time, so it didn’t bother me too much.
How does your being pregnant trump being old? Both can be debilitating.
@@reh3884 Dude. She never said her being pregnant trumped being old. She said she gave up the seat for the old lady and the *old lady* tried to give it back when she noticed OP was expecting... and OP didn't take the seat back.
The pregnant woman and the old lady both sound like kind caring people. ❤
story 2: Where I live it's actually illegal to leave a child under 7 years old alone in a car.
Third story about the pool behind the house. If any one of those "intruders" had been injured in any way, the homeowner would have been legally liable - even though the "intruders" had never been invited. When my brother, whose house was rural, had a pool put in behind his house, his insurance agent warned him thoroughly about the potential liabilities. The pool, according to the agent, is what he called, "an attractive nuisance". The bare minimum my brother had to do was to put a chain link fence which had to be locked when the pool was not in use. Of course, my brother put it in and, thankfully, never had an issue.
2nd story: OP did the right thing. He didn’t let it go on for too long, just long enough. I hope she realizes soon that no matter what, your child shouldn’t be left in the car alone. I’m 20 and live with my dad, and whenever I stay in the car, he gives me the keys and says ‘lock the doors’ and if I don’t, I always get a lecture on how I need to lock the doors.
Totally agree with the OP in the 2nd story. He talked to her before about it and she had promised not to but low and behold she does it anyway. She would have continued as it’s convenient for her to just leave him in the car. She had to learn from her mistake and thank goodness it was her hubby that saw his baby left in the unlocked car and not someone else. She should be grateful and take it as lesson learned. She apparently has to learn the hard way.
First story: Unless he is sitting in a priority seating area (which is actually for those who are elderly or disabled (and pregnancy is NOT a disability)), he is under absolutely no obligation to move. The fact his sister and parents chewed him out show that they are the ahole not him. Again, unless you are elderly or physically disabled, you are not entitled to a seat on a bus. Fill stop. End of list. Period.
2nd story: What that mother did is actually a felony in many states. It is called child endangerment.
He’s not *the* asshole here, but he definitely is *an* asshole. Maybe that’s the way I was brought up, but even I with scoliosis and pain standing up for extended amounts of time, would have given my seat for the pregnant lady. (Had she continued being respectful about it, that is.) the moment she started insulting and crying is the moment I draw the line. Again, not THE asshole here, but I don’t think it’s very nice to purposefully ignore a pregnant woman asking to sit.
@@clownrat5759 from my pov, someone with pain from injuries like OP or a chronic condition like you have at least as much right to a seat as anyone burdened by pregnancy.
Only healthy people have any moral incentive to offer their seat, and you can rarely see who's healthy or in pain on the outside in public.
@@clownrat5759 then be mad at all the other people on the bus who saw what was happening and none of them offered their seat. He said no she should’ve taken that. He was tired and had every righty to avoid (ignore) the situation he knew was coming.
@@clownrat5759 Sorry but she should have just moved on to another seat once she realized that he was not going to give up his seat. Also, why out of all the seats on the bus did he need to give up his seat? That is why I pretend to be asleep if I am ever on a bus. People leave you alone
Worked at a job that had me on my feet for 10 hours a day. So no I would not give my seat to anyone not disabled. I have also given birth to two 9lb babies never asked for a seat on a bus.
When it comes to your childs safety i dont believe there is such a thing as “too far”. That lady put her kid at risk because she was too lazy to bring him with, that’s awful
I call the police on that trespassing family the minute I get home.
Absolutely! The EM was already warned. Charge her and all adults with criminal tresspass, and they pay for clean up. Get a restraining order against her too.
Yeah, police call immediately, report it, as if they get hurt, the property owners can be taken to court and they'll need documentation to protect themselves.
“No mother should have to go through that fear” then don’t freaking leave your kid alone with no supervision for possibly 10 min!
So yeah, op is NTA, he wasn’t ‘cruel’. I would have been cruel and waited for police to show up first, so they can chew her out for endangering the kid like that too. Maybe he should have, cause she clearly still hasn’t learned her lesson
While I don't think lecturing strangers about their life choices is really necessary since we don't know their circumstances either (and pregnancy is necessary for upholding our species), the same goes for the pregnant woman who believes she's entitled to anyone's seat while not even asking if OP had their own circumstances.
It's one thing to ask for a seat but another to act entitled before even knowing anything and acting like pregnancy means getting her a seat is the highest priority.
I'm handicapped too but you don't really see it just going by my outward appearance. (For those in Germany, I have a GdB of 70 out of 100, which is nothing you get super easily or for just anything. Even 50 is sometimes extremely tough to get despite some people deserving it.) While I would give up my seat for people who are worse off, I wouldn't necessarily do so for a pregnant woman unless they seem to be struggling with their pregnancy a lot. And sore feet do not count here since my feet also tend to hurt a lot.
It would be great if people in general would just stop assuming they need a seat more unless they're really needing help to even stand or cannot keep their balance due to eye conditions for example. Because no one can know what kind of handicap another person might have that's not necessarily visible on the outside. Or even a momentary weakness like the OP with their sore feet after working a really long day standing for a majority of it. Pregnancy is not an illness and while it can certainly come with a variety of heavy side effects that can be an illness too, just being pregnant by itself doesn't give her any rights or priority over everyone else who also have their pains.
I don't think OP was acting entitled since they didn't say they deserved it more or anything nor saying they were a better person but simply that they're not responsible for her pregnancy (which is true but they could have kept that to themself since it doesn't really help the situation nor their argument). It can definitely be considered as rude to blame people for their life choices and lots of people don't have a choice but to take the bus on top. Few people enjoy it. Nevertheless, the entitled person was the pregnant woman since she acted entitled toward a seat. Rudeness doesn't equal entitlement and not wanting to give up their seat doesn't either.
While OP's reaction was too fierce, they were not acting entitled but rather just defended their seat from the one actually acting entitled and also being rude in an attempt to force them to give up their seat.
Thank you. I sometimes think that Fluff doesn't know what the words he's saying mean.
You are so right.
What baffles me is that "the bus was full" and yet, he was to blame for not giving his seat, he, out of 30+ people that COULD ALSO give their seats... Sorry but, he isn't to blame at all, tho I do agree he was rude and savage, but most people kinda don't know how to react in the heat of the moment
His comment about her life choice was on point!
If you give up your seat it is voluntary to be polite. If you asked me first or went as far as demanding the seat I will not be polite towards you.
On that second story about the baby, no you did not go too far she did. If somebody seen it and called the cops she would be in jail and that's where she needs to be.
The story behind that picture is they had the same builder, trusted them with inspection and have spent a ton of money fixing a TON of things. They’re trying to save people money. Plus the other house from what I understand had been under construction for a suspicious amount of time.
I was about to say they probably know something shady is going on and are warning people.
I just commented this might be a possibility XD
Yepp, have seen the whole picture somewhere. It's probably cheaper to crap the building than to fix it and that's what you could see just from the photography
@@holstorrsceadus1990 , might be owners did work neighbors knew was not up to Code. I worked in a hardware store, and the guys that had been in Electrical for years told me that people would do things in their home on the cheap. A local Fire Department guy said they'd put out a fire at a home that had been added onto and they wired it with lamp cord.
With the second story, she said that no mother should have to endure that. However, no father should have to endure that, too. She got herself into that one. I don't feel sorry for her, at all.
She reeks of entitlement!
The first story, no you don't have to give up your seat. No one needs to get angry at you, because you are sitting at the front of the full bus, other people could give up their seats for this lady.
NO WAY was that too much. What she did in leaving her baby in the car all the time was so irresponsible. I hope she did learn her lesson. Children do get snatched. She should never forget this lesson. I would have flipped out if my husband did that to our children.
I actually know the story behind picture you showed with the “do not buy this house before talking to me” sign! The signs lady’s house was built by the same people who built and are trying to sell the house next to them. Apparently they did a horrible job with sign lady’s house and it was a waste of money and sign lady just wanted to warn others.
Yea, I commented that we didn't have enough info to judge. My thoughts were awful neighbors, a dictatorial HOA or problems with the house that weren't being disclosed. Otherwise the sign doesn't make sense.
Idk why that one was included when there is likely a solid reason for it.
That was my thought. The sign lady wanted any potential buyers to know there are problems with the house.
I was wanting to know the story behind that. I was wondering if it was a warning about problems with the house.
My immediate guess that was the neighbor knew something about the house and wanted to warn others. Not that she was an obnoxious nosy neighbor.
I'm with the lady in the first story. Pregnant people can be very entitled and they don't know what you are going through and they just expect you to accommodate them. I've been harassed in the bus and subway for not standing up for pregnant people, just because I "look" healthy and youngish But I have heart issues, a very bad knee and ankle and often get dizzy and nauseous, so yeah if I can snag a seat I do.
Once I got yelled out by a mom because I wouldn't let her pregnant daughter sit, I was curled up in the seat with a slight fever and coughing my lungs out every few minutes as I was heading home after seeing the doctor (pre-corona, it was just a very bad cough, which I often get 'cause I had pneumonia as a baby so my lungs aren't particularly strong), and I wasn't even in a reserved seat, but I got yelled at for five minutes straight until I just looked at the lady, put on my head phones and turned my back to her.
Yup, the entitled one is the pregnant lady. She had every right to ask for the seat, but once OP politely declined, the story should have stopped there. But PL HAD TO turn on the waterworks and play the "woe is me" blame game. It is indeed her choice to be a single mom.
So OP was a lady? Couldn't remember. Just want to add, what if OP was pregnant? And just not showing yet?
I agree, the pregnant lady was too entitled. She had a right to ask, but not demand. OP deserved their spot and not their fault she's pregnant and got on after OP. Its as if having to be on your feet for 10 hrs and then having to walk after the short bus ride isn't a valid reason to be able to sit. Old man is entitled, too. Not OPs fault he gave in to the pregnant lady and the bus driver had to stop quickly.
I was in ops situation but my head was killing me n my feet were hurting I told sorry before she threatened me n she was poking me hard on my chest than I told her 2 fuck off n well I said fat cows don't need a seat
Edit 2 add I was 15 when this happen I'm 21 now
The difference is you have valid reasons to not give up your seat. You have issues standing or stabilising on a moving vehicle. The op in this storys only issue is they are tired and have sore feet. Yes some pregnant women act entitled and if you explained that you were in fact sick and had heart and knee issues then she should have left you alone. But this pregnant woman asked a perfectly health adult to give up their seat. And a decent person would of done so. So they got treated like the cunt they are.
@@Tb-bf5dw just saying, you shouldn’t have to explain that you are sick or have health issues to someone to justify not giving up a seat, that’s private info that not everyone feels okay divulging. In the story OP shouldn’t have to justify either, though what they said is a bit rude, but the old man and pregnant woman calling OP names are clearly rude too, so i feel everyone was a bit of an AH in the story.
Maybe the next time she thinks about leaving her baby in the car, she'll remember the fear of her baby being missing.
The second story definitely angered me. I couldn't imagine leaving my daughter in the unlocked car even just to run in the gas station for 1 minute, let alone over 6. Maybe OP did let his wife's freak out go on too long, but that's child neglect at that point. I've seen people run into gas stations to pay for a pump or pick up a pack of smokes with children in the car (maybe 1 minute inside), but over 6 minutes is just gambling. It only takes 30 seconds to a minute to get a child out of a car seat, & even less to hop in and put it in reverse.
The woman with the baby LIED about never doing it again. Apparently there was no other way to convince her how dangerous this was.
Second Story: The mother brought it on herself. If she had paid attention and did the normal thing and take the toddler with her, THEN there would be NO NEED for him to do that. Because, a toddler sitting in an unlocked car, by himself? Anyone could've taken him. Proof: THE FATHER DID!!
Hell the car wouldn't even have to be unlocked. A kidnapper could just break the window, open the door and kidnap the kid.
@@nova14414 That is true. All the more reason why she was irresponsible in not taking her son with her inside.
@@adleranderson6797 exactly
That second story has me alarmed and infuriated...at the mom who promised to never leave baby in car again, but did so anyway, and when caught, decided to double-down on it. Dad is well within his rights to divorce her and ask for sole custody, because we know she'll do it again. In fact, it may have been better to call the cops on her at that point if he was considering divorce and getting sole custody, considering she doesn't seem to be capable of understanding the dangers, and, in fact, is claiming victimhood herself. We've had a lot of carjackings in my state, some with kids in car. In our state, it is a vehicle code violation, but a judge can raise it to child endangerment, depending on the situation. I'm a parent myself, and I've seen, far too often, parents doing stupid and dangerous things that endanger their kids, yet they get so irate if you point it out, because they don't like being told how to parent.
If I was the pregnant woman from the first story, I would just go ask someone else for their seat, if I was given no for an answer. Some of these stories where one person is pestered for a seat makes me think they take place on some tiny buses.
I'm sick of the "I'm a single mom" excuse. What it really means is (A) you're a slut, and/or (B) you're too irresponsible to be allowed to breed and/or (C) you really think that having and using functional genitals makes you "special". Oh, and we USE to call them "unwed mothers" and it was something to be ashamed of, but of course we USE to be ashamed if a family member was in jail, too, now it seems to be a bragging point.
@@davidvanhorn3340 Dude, ever heard of being widowed or abusive relationships? Not all single parents are sluts. Yes, I'm including men here. Until you know WHY they're single, I suggest you don't judge.
@@marjoriejohnston4905 you’re right however don’t go broadcasting your a single parent as a manipulation tactic to get what you want.
Honestly as a woman who was pregnant 3 times and has run into issues of lack of seating many times being patient for a few more minutes until another person offered their seat isn't difficult. I've never asked someone else for a seat, someone is usually generous enough to offer one. And if they don't no biggie.
I normally would give up my seat if I saw a pregnant woman but if my feet are hurting then I’m sorry to say it but the answer would be no
2nd story I 100% agree. People don't learn (at least most of the time) until it actually happens.
hell, you saw that the wife said she'd stop doing it when OP asked/told her to. And did she? Nope. So clearly simply talking to her wouldn't have done anything
Story 1: there's a whole bus of AHs... I back OP!
Sorry, OP didn’t go far enough. He should have taken the child home, and made the wife really sweat! She left the car unlocked, for God’s sake!
Only reason he should actually not do that is that she would call 911 and needlessly hold up emergency services
Hell the car wouldn't even have to be unlocked. A kidnapper could just break the window, open the door and kidnap the kid.
She would have called 911. Did you listen yo the story?
Baby in car: if she does it now, when I am assuming the weather is cool temps, what happens when it is summer and the temps are high? She going to leave him in there then? Carjackings, babynapping, he barf and choke on it, he find something within reach to put in his mouth, etc. She's an idiot and the trick he pulled should have shocked her into reality. Instead, she's not accepting any responsibility and instead is blaming the husband. That marriage will end soon and I hope the dad gets custody.
Taking his kid for the car when left alone is NOT going too far! She lied and was leaving their child alone in the car that is not only illegal it is so fucking dumb, there is stories all the time of children taken from cars, if you are the parent then you have the responsibility. She has no right to be angry, how would she feel if the child taken!
Story #3...I would have called the cops right away, informed them that there were trespassers who had invaded my home without permission, were destroying my property, and endangering multiple lives. THEN I would have started yelling at them.
Child left in car: OP absolutely did not go too far. He was right! He proved that anyone could have come by in the over 6 minutes she was in the gas station (it was 6 minutes AFTER he showed up, so God knows how long she was in there before OP showed up!) and taken the child out of her UNLOCKED car never to be seen again. If she were a rational human being, if she was indeed a loving mother, she would have acknowledged her mistake. But she's acting like she did nothing wrong. It almost seems like she is inviting someone to steal her baby. And let me ask OP: do you live in a state where the temperatures get extreme (very hot/cold)? Because a baby left in a car for any length of time in extreme temperatures can become seriously ill or die.
When I was pregnant with my first child I had to take the bus to and from work. I never asked anyone or demanded that anyone give me their seat. If someone offered depending how I was feeling I either accepted or declined.
Absolutely agree with OP removing his child from his wife's car. She could have lost him permanently.
I'm a mother and totally agree with the father who objected to his wife leaving their son in the car.
I agree with OP in the 1st story. As a young girl, I'd stand up for the elderly and give up my seat, my siblings are I were raised that way. Later as a young working Mom, on my feet all day and with a severe back problem since I was 19, I needed to rest just as much as any pregnant mother, I was also a mother of two and also working without help at home. OP I FULLY SUPPORT YOU in this situation. Now as a grandmother, with heart problems, and major back problems, including surgery, I have a disabled sticker on my Mercedes, 2 door sports coupe, (just love driving with the roof down), I digress. Because of my back and severe sciatica, my Merc is an automatic and I know how to get in and out of her without straining or hurting my back. I always use a walking stick. A couple of months ago I parked in the disabled spot and another woman with a huge SUV type of vehicle was parked next to me.. Boy oh boy did I receive some dirty looks, here in S Africa, we do not have *KAREN AND KEVIN* people, which seems a regular occurrence in the USA, UK and parts Europe I get back to my Merc, only to find a real nasty sticker stuck onto my car. It amazes me how other people even disabled ones can judge another disabled just because of the vehicle a person is driving. Honestly some people do need to serious wakeup call. I earned my vehicles that I drive and hers is close in value to what mine is😡
And that's why you are an AH then.
@@happiestaku6646How does that make sense?
I would have taken it to the next level and drove my child home. She lied and endangered the child way too often.
I agree with OP in the second story taking his child out of the car. He waited for his wife to come out and prevented her from calling 911. She was in the wrong and should have been the one to apologize. This was a lesson that she needed to learn.
Story #2: OP was in the right. He was teaching his wife a big lesson! NEVER LEAVE YOUR BABY IN THE CAR... PERIOD! No matter if the town/city is safe, never leave the baby in the car OR even leave your car UNLOCK! His wife was just asking to get robbed, and for the baby to be kidnapped.
Not only that. It's extremely dangerous to leave your car unlocked. Anyone could sneak into your car. Possibly hide in the trunk. Since some people don't check the back seat or trunk regularly. Both of them could be gone.
OP did nothing wrong. Let me make this clear, it is a crime to leave a baby in a car alone.
Actually, here in Mexico there are reserved seats for pregnant women and elderly and people can sit in them but if either a pregnant woman or an older dude comes, you have to give your seat, it is mandatory!!...
#2 that woman has no clue. While hubby had the baby she was still in the store for 6 minutes, how long was the baby alone b4 dad pulled in. Maybe subconsciously she's hoping someone steals the baby because she doesn't want to be tied down or some other weird mental illness. I don't know very many people with any kind of sense who repeatedly leaves a child in the car like that. bad parents do that stuff. People go to jail in California for leaving their kids in a car
First story: Yeah no. You only get respect as long as you give it. The moment you start calling people names because they didn't give you what you wanted is the moment you stop deserving to be treated with respect. That line about pregnancy being a choice was perfect and she deserved to hear it.
Totally agreed 👍
Sorry fluff but the pregnant woman was guilt tripping the guy before he commented. He was on his feet all day working and was probably looking forward to sitting down. If the woman hadn’t tried guilt tripping OR he hadn’t worked on his feet all day it would be a different kettle of fish… but circumstances matter. I got guilt tripped on a bus the one time by this old woman even through I’m disabled and had crutches. Her opinion was I could have held onto the bars. Yeah, right. Guilt trippers have paid the same as the tripee… they snooze, they lose.
Yess agree
@@pizzapartytime1826 i agree as well
Wtf? No way that father went too far. If he had just taken off without telling his wife that he had the baby, THAT would be too far. But that's a lesson that damn sure needed to be learned before something legit bad happened.
Another Comment for the “Daddy’s Tyrannical Daughter the Movie”. If my Dad would have owned a Business like that I’d of been working in it as soon as I was old enough, without pay, because my Dad is just like that.
The pregnant lady should have let it go. Obviously the guy was tired and after saying no, she could have moved on and asked someone else. But no. She had to belabour the point and keep on harassing this poor person. No means no. Deal with it.
We have priority seats for elderly and pregnant people in the busses here, as well as a wheelchair spot. If the bus is very full and no elderly or pregnant people are on the bus, you can sit there with no issue. But you are expected to give up those priority seat for elderly and pregnant women when they get on the bus.
As for the second story: OP was completely in the right here, but maybe should have ended the stressful situation a little quicker. Or maybe kept their car next to the wife's car during the entire thing. That being said, the wife has no right to be this pissed and entitled when she frequently endangers their small child. If she continues to do this, OP needs to refuse letting her take the kid anywhere without them present the entire time. Possible divorce and/or child services would have to get involved. OP should tell her she's lucky he hasn't gotten law enforcement or child services involved for endangering the kid. She is in no way the victim here.
Just cause someone came inside you doesn't mean I'm gonna accommodate you
This doesn’t sound like they had priority seats. She just picked on OP. Funny how no one else on the bus was offering the lady their seat, so no OP wasn’t the only one who shared the opinion that you have to give up your seat to pregnant people.
@@bautistalover I didn't say that the bus in the story had those priority seats. I meant that we don't have that issue on our busses because of those priority seats and the rules around those.
Each bus has 8 priority seats for elderly and pregnant people, as well as one spot dedicated to people in a wheelchair. The wheelchair spot actually has a tiered priority. Wheelchairs have top priority for that spot. If no wheelchairs are on the bus, the priority goes to strollers and such. If neither of those are on the bus, anyone else can sit there.
I have noticed that if you have a big amount of luggage or luggage that takes up a lot of space, people tend to give you slightly better access to the priority seats (provided that elderly, pregnant, wheelchairs or strollers don't take up the spaces/aren't on the bus). The rules around seating in our busses are catering to those who need it. So issues like these are not really happening here.
If the situation took place in our busses, OP would have been expected to give up their seat and that might also have been enforced due to the rules. Unless the priority seats were in use by people that don't have priority for those seats, OP would have to give up their seat. No matter how many hours of walking they had throughout the day. But the pregnant lady would still be expected to be polite about it.
It seems the bus OP was on didn't have that priority seating, otherwise this issue would not have existed.
@@BeepBoopBee gotcha. Even in the US for the buses where they have priority seats if they are legit filled the lady would be out of luck. Any non priority seat is based upon the kindness of others.
@@BeepBoopBee unfortunately that doesn't work most of the time. In both my pregnancy's i was offered seats twice and only by elderly people, which i declined. I never asked though. I sometimes ask for my 3 year old as he can't hold on as good as i do and even then almost no one listenes or just grunts at you. It was completely entitled of the woman to act like this and i was raised that as a healthy person you stand up for elderly, pregnant, children or disabled people (not in this order) but my mom made sure i knew to not do so if someone was rude while asking.
We also have priority sitting here. Had to stand for 4 hours one time in the train while 8 month pregnant and no one wanted to stand up for me.
Story 2, the father was RIGHT to do what he did. While she’s in the store someone driving could have hit the car with the baby in it. No matter where you park, something can happen & no one would see anything. Her momentary horror was that & she was lucky.
With our first son, my [ex] wife would turn away from our son in the shopping 🛒... so one day at Kmart I took our baby son out of the cart while she had her back turned! Needless to say, she freaked out and when the panicking set in, I brought our son out from our hiding place. She tried to get mad at me. I told her it was her fault for not watching our son. I told her I'd been watching her talking to the store manager for 5 minutes before she even noticed that our son was gone!
Suit Kratos: ZEUUUUUS!!!! YOUR SON HAS RETURNED….FROM LAW SCHOOL!!! I BRING LAWSUITS TO OLYMPUS!!!
As far as OP taking his son out of the car, I agree 100%! My mother loved spending time with my kids but she’d do the same thing. I removed my daughter from my mother’s (running!) car and waited for her to come out of the store. She got incredibly angry with me but I told her better me than a stranger. I never let her take my daughter anyplace alone ever again. (She had previously promised to never do that again.)
Sick of the entitlement single parents claim. Lost my job of 10 years ,when the company had to downsize, to a coworker who had only been there 2 years "cause she's a single parent and you don't have kids " didn't matter I had more experience
I normally agree with you, but I feel you were wrong on the kid on the bus story. If the pregnant woman and the old man can berate the poster, the poster can question her life choices out loud. Offense is taken and she took a double helping and still had some for the old guy.
Story 4: Using children to convince someone to give money and then use the money for random unreleased stuff? And then continue to use the children for emotion blackmail? Wow, that's foul
Instant call to CPS and restraining order. Fuck those guys.
@@LunaP1 Agreed, instant call to CPS with the report that the mother was withholding food from her kids just to get petty revenge on someone.
First story…now I get very sore feet so I know how bad it can get, so I support the hard working passenger.
Was there no other able person on the bus at all??
The father taking his child out of basically an abandoned car... Was 100% in the right!
No, he didn't go far enough with grabbing the baby from the car!!! Leaving kiddo alone for over 6 minutes?!? It gives me heartburn just thinking about it
Story 1: Fluff, I disagree qith you entirely, speaking the truth is not wrong. She kept badgering him to get a seat and pointing out valid truths is not shaming someone forgetting pregnant. We all must deal and live with the choices we make. Now if I was asked nicely, I would probably give up my seat but if I refuse then a person must be respectful of that. He declined and she wouldn't accept his answer which is rude.
i agree with you happens to me as well few times a month, not by pregnant womens but by snotty brat teens that they think they own the bus, unless they come acros me, and let me tell you i have put every single brat in shame on the bus, i have also advantage i know 90% off the bus drivers male and female and they know me.
OP just worked a 10 hour shift standing up most of the time, no way am I badgering him on sitting down or not. I also stand for around 8 hours a shift but at least most of the time there are mats to soften the floor. The lady seemed to pick on OP just because they were young? like there cant only be 2 seats on a bus go ask someone else. If they say no then it means no. It doesn't matter their reasons its their choice.
Story 1: disagree. OP's rudeness was a response to entitlement. Don't assume that a sitting person isn't disabled, or very sore or tired; and always ask nicely.
Story 2: disagree. The mother was being extremely irresponsible. The father was desperate to save his son's life, and the mother wouldn't listen to common sense. Sometimes people need a shock to wake them up.
Story 3: completely agree.
Story 2: wow. gross exaguration. Maybe get the mom a babysitter for when she needs to run the errands.
If OP in story 1 was disabled they could have just said "sorry, I need this seat" instead of going on a tirade about the mother's choices in life, that they know nothing about, maybe it wasn't even her choice.
Story 2: Op want too far? What?? He didn't go far enough! He should've left her there outright panicking until police showed up, and just to cover his ass he should've left a note in the baby seat on her car telling her he took the kid because she left him in the car alone again! Then pull up mid police interview and calmly explain his actions.
Police would've been stern with her about the dangers of leaving a child alone like that and lesson would've sunk in THEN! As it sounds that lady reels entitlement, smh.
I disagree, I do not believe OP was the asshole. He worked all day on his feet. He was tired and sore, his feet hurt, and he had to walk another 15 - 20 minutes to get home after getting off the bus. He would be if the lady was disabled, but she wasn't. She was single and Pregnant. Quite capable of sitting anywhere on the bus.
Story 1: Can totally relate, as should the mother to be. OP explained his reason and she could have asked someone else.
Unless it's priority seating, he had no obligation.
He’s not THE asshole.. but he is AN asshole. Lol
@clown rat Lol. Yeh, maybe his comment could've been kept to himself, but then we all react differently, especially after a hard day's work.
Family could've been a bit more understanding!
@@mospeada1152 Yeah. Maybe it’s the way I was raised but purposefully ignoring a pregnant woman asking for a seat is rude in my eyes. I have severe scoliosis pain when I stand for too long but even I would’ve offered a seat. Definitely not the asshole for getting pissed when the lady got rude, but a bit of an ass for how it was handled.
@@clownrat5759 honestly that’s what I think too, OP could have said what he said differently, but since we are human, we are not perfect, that being said he did work an 10 hour shift and was possibly cranky for not only suffering but also for being exhausted
@@lugismansion2400 hey if someone wants to throw a pity party for being a single parent they deserve everything they get. She was being manipulative when she brought that up.
For the first story I don't think that he has the AH for saying that she made a choice to get pregnant, and take the bus. Since it's true, she chose to get pregnant, and shouldn't expect special treatment for that choice. Taking it when offered is great, but if it's not, you shouldn't call someone rude for not giving it to you, after you asked. I've also heard/read stories where an OP said something similar, and since it was a situation where the pregnant lady was acting even more entitled, and people cheered them on for pointing that out. Plus she called him rude before he said that, even though he hadn't been at all, and she just wasn't letting the seat go. So he retaliated to her rude behavior with the same energy she was giving. He shouldn't be expected to empathize with someone, who cannot empathize with why he may be keeping his seat. It's a two way street
First post, I don’t think OP is TA because generally when people are exhausted, they are generally pretty cranky. Yes I don’t agree with what OP said, but why was he only singled out when she could have asked literally anyone else?
maybe he sat in a priority seat?
@@flyer3849 possibly but if he did not, then he is NTA entirely, but if he was, then he would be a huge AH
I would have just turned the garden hose on them. “🤷♀️What?! You’re using the pool anyway, right? So you’re already soaked.😏”
1rst story : a lot of contries do have policy which request passenger to give their sits to pregnant woman. So also depend or where this story takes places, OP didn't mention.
The real question is: What about the other passengers?
If the bus was full, then there were several people who could have given up their seats, but apparently they all sat there uninvolved while OP was treated like a monster.🤨
I would never be able to trust her around my children. Mother or not. She continuously left her baby in an unlocked care with no regard. I would have been home with my son by the time she came out of the store. 6 MINUTES
On the second one, going too far would be calling the cops and pushing for her to be charged with any or all of the multiple crimes she is committing by leaving their helpless child in the car alone. He did not go too far. Hopefully that feeling that she says no mother should ever experience, will stick with her anytime she thinks about repeating this.
Given the wife did not actually apologize or learn their lesson it’s obvious the Op should have called the cops because she is a danger to his child.
No the wife did not learn anything. If she did she wouldn’t be demanding an “apology”
1st and 4th story: if you are NOT financially stable to have children, do not reproduce. It is not your friends'/family's responsibility to accommodate to your pregnancy/children.
I get it, things and life can get pretty crazy, but still you should learn to make do and better the lives of yours and your future/current children instead of constantly beg and guilttrip to get it your way.
Idc If this makes me sound like the AH, I know too many people who pull that crap (who are also in my family) and the entire family is suffering for it mentally and emotionally, including their kids.
I 100% agree with what you've said here, and I don't think it makes you an AH at all. More people need to think asking these lines.
In a hurry or not I've never left my kid in the car even just getting gas. And would I have done what he did to his wife? You damn right and she would be hearing about it for a while.
In most states, now it’s illegal to leave a child especially an infant in a car without a parent present or an adult because of situations where people just take the car and drive off with children in the back, I don’t think OP went out of line at all because he talk to her about it, and she still didn’t do it sometimes the best teacher is experience and if a cop had seen the she definitely would’ve been charged with neglect