Hello. Beautiful presentation. Thank you. The elven languages are Tolkien's music, and music has been a bridge to the Divine for me since childhood. Thanks again. Blessings.
Good evening, I think I've come upon an epiphany - The published 'Akallabeth' is an accurate translation of the original Classical Nahuatl fairytale 'Nican Mopohua.' Please, I am highly requesting a comparative linguistic analysis of that fairytale and the Akallabeth as written in either Quenya or Adunaic, or both. Thank you.
Thank you so much Alex for checking out our video livestream this evening! That very may well be, but the thing is, none of us are Elvish linguists here at the Way of Arda's Lore. So it wouldn't be a good idea to make a linguistic analysis. You might find some who would find this interesting. Are you connected to either real-language linguists or with Elvish linguists? If not, we might have a way to point you in a direction. Again, we thank you for stopping by and taking the time to make a comment here! (Calantirniel)
@@elvenspiritualpath Thank you for the follow-up! Unfortunately, I have no connections to studied linguists myself. My speculations stem from Numenor portrayed as the Star Of The Sea and the objectivity of The Woman (who bears a title, 'Star Of The Sea') upon the cloak of 'The Great Speaking Eagle.' In short, if such analysis were to produce anything coherent (ala one to one translation 100% accuracy) - the entire world would be forced to conclude that the modern nahuatl and mexican peoples (in the lineage of the Aztecs) are totally the descendants of the Numenoreans. Unfortunately, Tolkien is actually too esoteric for most people in The Church to admit that The Bible is literally a fairytale. I will link a video to scientific analysis of The Woman if that is okay. Objectively - it's total madness. Unless fairytales are actually true. Which I believe TheWayOfArdasLore is more ready to accept than many people in the Catholic Church.
@@Alex-ms9tk I also think there is resonance of the Star of the Sea as being Mother Mary, the mother of Jesus, and if you search Google Images for awhile, duckduckgo.com/?q=mary+star+of+the+sea&t=chromentp&iax=images&ia=images - you will find dozens, even hundreds of images wherein the artists portray Mary (who in ancient times was likened to Venus since Aphrodite was said to be born of the Sea). Most of these have 5-pointed stars, which relates to the Venus synodic cycle as she creates a perfect "rose" after 8 years. Venus was the timekeeper before the invention of the atomic clock! The name Mary also means Sea/Ocean, and in Latin, it was Stella Maris. Now a few of these feature star-crowns and some of these resonate with the Vesica Pisces shape that occurs when the Sun goes through its yearly cycle (via the Tropics of Cancer and Capricorn - of which the actual shape is the analemma). Now - some of these main stars have 4 points (or with 4 additional smaller points making 8 points) - and occasionally you will see a 6-pointed one. THAT one looks VERY much like Tolkien's Star of Earendil, which is - of course, Venus!! With Tolkien having been raised Catholic, he would have been well aware of these traditions of Mother Mary watching over sailors at sea - and in times beforehand, it would have been Venus or even Isis and perhaps other gods and goddesses. I personally see the resonance of this connection between Mother Mary, Venus and Earendil, as so many themes overlap! It is not surprising that other stories may have overlapping themes present and yet still not be identical stories. Now - the only real-life linguist who is also adept in Elvish from JRR Tolkien sources only is Edward Kloczko of World Elvish Language Association (WELA). There are other real-life linguists that study organic real languages, and then you have those who study Elvish, ranging from many different backgrounds. I am not sure if any of them are interested in working on a translation like you ask, but it might not hurt to put it out there! I hope you find what you seek, whether you receive the resources to do it yourself or have help! Thank you once again Alex! Calantirniel🧝♀
@@elvenspiritualpath Wow, thanks so much for this massively informative response! The image in question is actually the one that ended up converting the people of Mexico. What is strange is that details are being found about the image that would not be noticed without modern technology. This stream actually goes into it, highly recommended! ruclips.net/video/y2sZ2dRl8Ds/видео.htmlsi=PqgqsQJwjBaSYPb6 And then framing it to "rhyme" with Numenor, it's like the Aztecs are a reasonable comparison where their barbaric human sacrifices were actually attempting (similar to the Edain) in assisting the spirits in a cataclysmic kind of final battle like at the end of the 1st Age. The Ainur gifted the Edain Numenor, Elros, and very lengthy lives - Heaven gifts the Aztecs Mexico City, The Church, and the cosmically ramifying image of Their Lady! And then that could segue into pairing what must be the most objectively beautiful image (if and only if it is truly from Heaven) with what might be the most objectively beautiful known language (if and only if Mr. Tolkien himself is a legend exactly as the ones he himself illustrates and describes.). Phew! Could definitely go on and on about these things - talking about this kind of stuff almost feels like a hobbit messing around with The One Ring or inadvertently aiding those evil people at Palantir Inc., building those weapons of war. It's like, yeah we can totally see why Bilbo would struggle with accepting a crazy journey with a bunch of strangers or just going back to gardening and having tea with Frodo on weekends! Cheers!
Hello. Beautiful presentation. Thank you. The elven languages are Tolkien's music, and music has been a bridge to the Divine for me since childhood. Thanks again. Blessings.
Thank you so much Marianne for your continuing support, we so very appreciate you! Absolutely
Good evening, I think I've come upon an epiphany - The published 'Akallabeth' is an accurate translation of the original Classical Nahuatl fairytale 'Nican Mopohua.'
Please, I am highly requesting a comparative linguistic analysis of that fairytale and the Akallabeth as written in either Quenya or Adunaic, or both.
Thank you.
Thank you so much Alex for checking out our video livestream this evening! That very may well be, but the thing is, none of us are Elvish linguists here at the Way of Arda's Lore. So it wouldn't be a good idea to make a linguistic analysis. You might find some who would find this interesting. Are you connected to either real-language linguists or with Elvish linguists? If not, we might have a way to point you in a direction. Again, we thank you for stopping by and taking the time to make a comment here! (Calantirniel)
@@elvenspiritualpath Thank you for the follow-up! Unfortunately, I have no connections to studied linguists myself. My speculations stem from Numenor portrayed as the Star Of The Sea and the objectivity of The Woman (who bears a title, 'Star Of The Sea') upon the cloak of 'The Great Speaking Eagle.'
In short, if such analysis were to produce anything coherent (ala one to one translation 100% accuracy) - the entire world would be forced to conclude that the modern nahuatl and mexican peoples (in the lineage of the Aztecs) are totally the descendants of the Numenoreans.
Unfortunately, Tolkien is actually too esoteric for most people in The Church to admit that The Bible is literally a fairytale.
I will link a video to scientific analysis of The Woman if that is okay. Objectively - it's total madness.
Unless fairytales are actually true.
Which I believe TheWayOfArdasLore is more ready to accept than many people in the Catholic Church.
@@Alex-ms9tk I also think there is resonance of the Star of the Sea as being Mother Mary, the mother of Jesus, and if you search Google Images for awhile, duckduckgo.com/?q=mary+star+of+the+sea&t=chromentp&iax=images&ia=images - you will find dozens, even hundreds of images wherein the artists portray Mary (who in ancient times was likened to Venus since Aphrodite was said to be born of the Sea). Most of these have 5-pointed stars, which relates to the Venus synodic cycle as she creates a perfect "rose" after 8 years. Venus was the timekeeper before the invention of the atomic clock! The name Mary also means Sea/Ocean, and in Latin, it was Stella Maris. Now a few of these feature star-crowns and some of these resonate with the Vesica Pisces shape that occurs when the Sun goes through its yearly cycle (via the Tropics of Cancer and Capricorn - of which the actual shape is the analemma). Now - some of these main stars have 4 points (or with 4 additional smaller points making 8 points) - and occasionally you will see a 6-pointed one. THAT one looks VERY much like Tolkien's Star of Earendil, which is - of course, Venus!! With Tolkien having been raised Catholic, he would have been well aware of these traditions of Mother Mary watching over sailors at sea - and in times beforehand, it would have been Venus or even Isis and perhaps other gods and goddesses. I personally see the resonance of this connection between Mother Mary, Venus and Earendil, as so many themes overlap! It is not surprising that other stories may have overlapping themes present and yet still not be identical stories. Now - the only real-life linguist who is also adept in Elvish from JRR Tolkien sources only is Edward Kloczko of World Elvish Language Association (WELA). There are other real-life linguists that study organic real languages, and then you have those who study Elvish, ranging from many different backgrounds. I am not sure if any of them are interested in working on a translation like you ask, but it might not hurt to put it out there! I hope you find what you seek, whether you receive the resources to do it yourself or have help! Thank you once again Alex! Calantirniel🧝♀
@@elvenspiritualpath Wow, thanks so much for this massively informative response! The image in question is actually the one that ended up converting the people of Mexico. What is strange is that details are being found about the image that would not be noticed without modern technology.
This stream actually goes into it, highly recommended!
ruclips.net/video/y2sZ2dRl8Ds/видео.htmlsi=PqgqsQJwjBaSYPb6
And then framing it to "rhyme" with Numenor, it's like the Aztecs are a reasonable comparison where their barbaric human sacrifices were actually attempting (similar to the Edain) in assisting the spirits in a cataclysmic kind of final battle like at the end of the 1st Age. The Ainur gifted the Edain Numenor, Elros, and very lengthy lives - Heaven gifts the Aztecs Mexico City, The Church, and the cosmically ramifying image of Their Lady!
And then that could segue into pairing what must be the most objectively beautiful image (if and only if it is truly from Heaven) with what might be the most objectively beautiful known language (if and only if Mr. Tolkien himself is a legend exactly as the ones he himself illustrates and describes.).
Phew! Could definitely go on and on about these things - talking about this kind of stuff almost feels like a hobbit messing around with The One Ring or inadvertently aiding those evil people at Palantir Inc., building those weapons of war. It's like, yeah we can totally see why Bilbo would struggle with accepting a crazy journey with a bunch of strangers or just going back to gardening and having tea with Frodo on weekends! Cheers!