I genuinely think he would have done this tho cuz Ozzy and Yule would have been the ONLY VOTES ANYWAYS 🤣😅 (even when Becky made top 3 + it would have been way funnier for Jeff to vote 2 for 1)
They couldn't have asked for a better way to end that three Season arc between Tony and Sarah than a firemaking challenge where whoever won more than likely won the entire game
@@TheMurrmursonbottle wouldn't say Sarah is too 5 definitely a good player. But I honestly felt like the only amazing game she played was in game changers. Felt like she just listen to Tony the other two
Tony and Sarah's bromance was honestly one of the most adorable and real relationships I've ever seen. It's so sweet to see him look after her like a big brother. This might be a hot take but I'd much rather see these relationships on reality TV instead of the bs "showmance" we always see.
When she said "If anybody had to take me out, I wanted it to be you." Dude...that's a Hollywood ending ugly-cry moment right there. Probably the best moment of the season.
Chrissy's "Noooooooooooo" as she reads that note has been burned into my brain for five years. Totally agree with your top two, in that order. When I think "firemaking challenge", I always think of the disaster that was the Cook Islands Final Four.
@@kaitlynwickham6237 I mean SURELYYYYYY he was still awake 😂😂😅 but… I guess ur right we don’t actually know cuz we can’t see his face and I can’t remember If he was awake after their Fire victory or not
At 2:50 you can see Chrissy reading her note and then gasping when she realizes the twist. Then they cut to her reading it much later (I assume much later cause it looks like the sun is going down and she probably needed to calm down) and explaining the twist to the viewers. I would LOVE to see what she was saying in the moment before they cut to her confessional explanation. She was probably fuming and cussing and I want to see it all! 😆 I know I would've been seeing red after wanting him out for so long, all his idol plays, then this final chance to save himself again. Totally soul crushing for her. Give us the full scene Probst!!
FYI on Steph vs Bobby Jon, I'm pretty sure that they only got matches after they failed to make fire with flint but they just didn't show it. I've heard in interviews that this is exactly what happened in the later fire making challenge that season between Ian and Jen. Ian was normally able to make fire with flint, but he couldn't under pressure, and Jen wasn't a fire maker.
Becky and Sundras fire making was so iconic that I knew it had happened on survivor before watching Cook Islands, didn’t know it was that season, and then realized that this was what I had heard about when I saw the opening frame of the fire making. I think something that makes me enjoy it even more is the fact that they went to fire making simply because ozzy wanted it to be as fair as possible. Yul would have voted for Sundra to go home over Becky, and Ozzy knew this. He decided to tie the votes not because he was closer to Sundra, but because he thought it was fitting that they made the final four together, and they should each get an equal chance to stay.
I personally didnt care for it. I was too irritated by natalie not making michelle make fire. Sarah didnt care of she post to tony and i was tired of the cops r us duo
Imagine how infuriating it must have been for Ben when he realized he was off by ONE upside-down letter lmao if he didn't win the game.. that sht would have haunted him for life.
Bens season of survivor was my first one, and I LOVED his fire challenge. I had been rooting for him since the merge and was practically screaming when he won 😅
dude i love Ben, but when that season started Devon was my winner pick. and theres a good chance he wouldve won had he been in the final 3. so its always a bitter sweet feeling when i see that firemaking challenge
I had no idea fellow edge members basically gave Chris his endgame strategy. Kinda takes a bit away from the win imo, even if the execution was bang on
That would make it so someone who’s been there since the beginning doesn’t get as much as an unfair jury advantage. Have the merge reentry challenge, eliminate the losers. Have a finale reentry challenge, eliminate the losers.
The Season 41 fire making challenge was really good. Between DeShawn and Heather, that was a battle and Heather only lost by a few seconds. I don’t think Heather would’ve won over Erika but I really enjoyed the fight they both put up.
I often think about an alternate reality where Michelle stands up and convinces Sarah to switch spots with her and go to final 3, she beats Tony in fire making (cause she was crushing it during practice) and wins the season for that ballsy move. I would've loved everyone millisecond of it!
1. Becky and Sundra (Cook Islands)- It's one of the funniest moments. Jury falling asleep, Ozzy facepalming, Jeff being pissed and having them go to matches which Sundra runs out of lol. 2. Stephanie and Bobby Jon (Palau)- The finale to the obliteration of Ulong. Nothing like this had or will happen again. None of knew what was going to happen. 3. Tony and Sarah (Winners at War)- We knew winner was going to win the season. The 2 friends being forced to compete and a bitter sweet victory to the winners at war season. 4. Ben and Devon (HvHvH)- Iconic because of how bad it was. Devon and Chrissy got screwed. 5. Chris v Devens (Edge of Extinction) -Chris made the move he had to do. It was an exciting moment. 6. Cirie and Danielle (Panama)- It's aged into an iconic moment because it's Cirie's first loss. Truthfully she loses the game anyway, but it was a memorable moment. 7. Bob and Matty (Gabon)- Sugar trying to keep Bob was memorable and we knew winner of this won the season. 8. Rodney and Carolyn (Worlds Apart)- Mike made a move we thought was potentially game ending. Also Dan laughing because he knew they both would be bad at it is underrated. 9. Carson and Heidi (44)- Memorable because how fast Heidi made fire. 10. Michelle and Aubry (Koah Rong)- It was fun to see this occur naturally and truthfully didn't know who would win. 11. Jonathan and Mike (42)- Fun trying to guess if Mike could actually beat the challenge beast Jonathan. He pulled it off! 12. Gabler and Jesse (43)- Heartbreaking to see Jesse lose who would have won the season. 13. Ian and Jenn (Palau)- Memorable because minutes before, we didn't see this coming. Jenn should have just been gone, but Ian opening his mouth made Tom give Jenn a chance. 14. Wendell and Angela (Ghost Island)- It was blowout and predictable, but I do remember Angela swapping stations at Wendell's request which is something. 15. Dean at Lauren (Island of the Idols)- Predictable. Noura made a bad move taking Tommy to the end. 16. Deshawn and Heather (41)- Just memorable because Xander made a bad move. 17. Jake and Katurah (45)- We knew winner was getting 3rd place, but fun to see Jake finally win something 18. Mike at Kara (David v. Goliath)- I truthfully can't remember anything other than Angelina thanking Nick for taking her to the end like she thought she could actually win the game lol. Did I forget any?
For the Wendel one, it might've been Wendel who said it, but it's because of the curse of Purple on the Show (Purple Kelly, Purple Edits, and most Purple tribes do terrible Mattsing is a prime example), and whoever said it, didn't want to be added to that list
Victoria didn't even spend a single day in the game with Chris before he came back from the Edge, and she STILL thought he played a better game than two of her Kama tribemates.
@@giovanniorellana2200 That's not what I heard. I just heard she was "disappointed" that it was those three, and that she didn't feel like she had a good option.
Even if natalie did give up immunity to beat tony in fire making, there is no shot she beats sarah in final tribal, sarah and tony cleaned house together that season
I'm coming here right after watching Becky vs. Sundra. I honestly thought one of them was going to eliminate themselves chopping a thumb off before anybody got a flame. Seriously every time I see somebody trying to make a spark that way on this show I die inside.
3:43 completely disagree. If anything, production decided to keep the firemaking challenge to hide that they were trying to fix it for Ben. It makes it look like they had always had that planned and it would be a mainstay for future seasons, when it really was not intended to be that.
Grow up. It wasn't for Ben specifically, but for players like Ben. I'd argue fire making at final four was created because of David from MvGX. They want an underdog to win, and they scored immediately with Ben, and scored big severally seasons later with Tony.
@@bingbong7213 Writing in all caps . . . using lol more than once in a comment . . . acting like reiterating your stance somehow makes it more right the second time . . . it's things like that that make me think you're either immature, or a literal ten-year-old.
@@bingbong7213 Hating on final four fire making isn't exactly a hot take, and you're not even trying to put any effort into being convincing. So yes, I'm focusing on the quality of your writing and not the quality of the arguments.
Actually fire challenge sticking after Ben vs Devon proves all these theories even more because if you don’t want to be too obvious about it you act like it’s part of the plan lol
The Palau fire making created two things for survivor. The first was exile island with Stephanie for that one night and the other was not giving the contestants matches. Those are the only good things to come from Ulong.
Chrissy’s note is when I lost hope for the show… when I finally realized the interference of production. This was the most bullshit excuse for letting Ben win. I’d always thought production had an influence but never thought it was that extreme. Fuck Maryanne won? 😂😂
This video might have been made before it aired, but in a recent Survivor season Heidi made it to the end and won the last immunity challenge, but decided to give up her immunity to build fire and improve her resume (since she was considered a goat to some). And she ended up setting the fastest fire making record on Survivor. She still lost the vote though lol.
3. I will risk my game to take out the best player this season. If it works, I win. 2. I have to play fire with my best friend. Whoever wins this wins the game. 1. How to make fire?
Am i the only one that thought mandatory firemaking was introduced to rig the game to help Ben win. then producers realized the backlash they'll get, and pretended this wasn't a one time rigging and so doubled down and made it a permanent feature of the game.
I always got the impression that it was in fact pre planned, largely due to production's disappointment in people like David (MvGX) going home at final 3. The stupid part, however, was them keeping it a secret "twist" for that season, instead of telling the players early. If the other players know about the firemaking challenge on HHH, literally nothing changes. By the time anyone takes the shot at Ben, he's able to Ben Bomb his way to final 4 anyway. Just a terrible production decision that made them look far sketchier than they probably were. Same goes for Ben's idol finds. As seen on both the season of winners at war, and the post show press, Ben is just REALLY good at susing out where productions might be hiding idols
@@brianregan5933 I had the exact same thought. People blame Ben for final four fire making, but it was clearly David that inspired a second chance for the most deserving winner to actually get a chance to win.
@@jkingisbeast What you and I think is irrelevant. The producers decide what counts as officially playing and as per the official rules of Survivor, Chris played an official total of 39 days. Those are the official facts.
How does the fire making staying around prove that production didn’t just want a Ben win? They like that the challenge beast threats can win all the way to the end. If anything, it enforces that theory
Right? If anything, making it stick around is them trying to make it look legit. Still sus, especially after Ben "found" an idol in the spot he would always go and sit in to think about his wife. He just perfectly fit the American narrative of "veteran overcomes his weaknesses to win"
It was intended to be on season 34 and a twist like that doesn't become a staple of every season afterward cuz it was rigged for 1 person (which it wasn't)
@@cocosolis8240 makes me wish it had been on Season 34. Jeff seemed WAY too happy when Ben won that firemaking challenge (which basically meant he won the game). I know there's no direct proof that the game was rigged for Ben, but the amount of crazy luck he had in getting to the end (when in any prior season he would've been gone no matter what) is beyond extraordinary.
@@moviemaniac14 I stand by the fact that bob and Chris U are both luckier winners than Ben, but the edit certainly didn't do the rest of the final 7 of HHH any favors
Fire making sucks. Ben and Tony shouldn’t even be winners (well Tony 2x winner) because they only won because of fire making. Without it they would have been voted out it’s literally not fair
But it exists so we could have winners like Ben and Tony. Think of how many people got eliminated at final 4 that were clearly the most deserving to win, like David or Spencer. They could have won if fire making at final four existed.
@@rokeYouuer but remember it’s a strategic and social game. You can’t just get your way to the final four and then be like oh I’m good I’ll just make fire. If you get to final four and you’re out of options then that’s how it is. You didn’t plan properly and it’s showing. That sucks get on the jury you did this to yourself
@@Srcruser By that logic, having a F3 instead of a F2 "isn't fair." Hell, having Immunity Challenges "isn't fair." "Remember it’s a strategic and social game. You can’t just get your way to the final N and then be like oh I’m good I’ll just WIN IMMUNITY. If you get to final N and you’re out of options then that’s how it is. You didn’t plan properly and it’s showing. That sucks get on the jury you did this to yourself"
@@rokeYouuer if you’re at final four, and you’re absolutely being voted out if there’s a vote, then you don’t deserve to be at the end, at all. That means you didn’t plan properly, you didn’t manage your threat level, and your lost your allies
@@grafzeppelin4069 final 3 is fair it’s been happening since season 13 and it was a great twist. While it doesn’t always give us this, it stops the physical threat from just taking the floater goat to the end and winning. Gives them a challenge
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If Becky vs Sundra isn't #1 because of how iconically bad it was, I will be shocked
After video
Of course it was. It took so long to finish.
I would’ve taken a long ass nap 😅
@@esinger23 The jury certainly did
This aged like fine wine
Will never be topped
"Jeff, my flamethrower ran out of fuel."
"Alright... bring out the molotovs."
"Jeff, I'm out of molotovs."
(sigh) "Okay...let's use pieces of our burning council set."
@@Kryptojackjr "Jeff, I'm out of pieces."
(sighs) "I guess, bring out the dynamite?"
I suddenly like to imagine that if becky said she was out of matches too, that jeff says screw it and just eliminates them both
I genuinely think he would have done this tho cuz Ozzy and Yule would have been the ONLY VOTES ANYWAYS 🤣😅 (even when Becky made top 3 + it would have been way funnier for Jeff to vote 2 for 1)
They couldn't have asked for a better way to end that three Season arc between Tony and Sarah than a firemaking challenge where whoever won more than likely won the entire game
especially since they’re easily in the top 5 players to every play.
@@TheMurrmursonbottle 📠
@@TheMurrmursonbottle wouldn't say Sarah is too 5 definitely a good player. But I honestly felt like the only amazing game she played was in game changers. Felt like she just listen to Tony the other two
@@TheMurrmursonbottle Sarah I would not put that high up necessarily. Tony yes but Sarah may be a bit lower.
Tony and Sarah's bromance was honestly one of the most adorable and real relationships I've ever seen. It's so sweet to see him look after her like a big brother.
This might be a hot take but I'd much rather see these relationships on reality TV instead of the bs "showmance" we always see.
I love how authentic their friendship is! You can tell how much they genuinely care for each other.
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When she said "If anybody had to take me out, I wanted it to be you." Dude...that's a Hollywood ending ugly-cry moment right there. Probably the best moment of the season.
@@Shutterbun4 absolute chefs kiss!
Yeah cause they’re cops 💀 they annoyed me. She does better when she isnt in his shadow and hes likesble anyway which why he always surpasses her
Parvati and Yul got to watch two of the best fire making challenges in survivor history
Sarah vs tony truly was the end of an era for survivor
As for some, an end to the Survivor as we knew it in general.
Yep it’s been virtue signaling dogshit ever since 40
@@moviemaniac14 (me) 😅😂 as I THINK this was the last season I watched
@@Jermrants it wasnt as good i thought it would be.
40 was definitely the last great season
Chrissy's "Noooooooooooo" as she reads that note has been burned into my brain for five years. Totally agree with your top two, in that order. When I think "firemaking challenge", I always think of the disaster that was the Cook Islands Final Four.
I can still remember Chrissy's gasp.
16:04 The shot of Ozzy trapped in pure suffering cracks me up.
Even Yule looks like he’s gonna pass out 🤣🤣🤣😅
@@Jermrants He wasn't already out? 😂
@@kaitlynwickham6237 I mean SURELYYYYYY he was still awake 😂😂😅 but… I guess ur right we don’t actually know cuz we can’t see his face and I can’t remember If he was awake after their Fire victory or not
Tony and Sarah’s is in my personal opinion the most emotional. The good ending of copsRus
Its hard for me to care they were annoying to me. Tony cant help but like but their duo was whatever’s
"Alright, we'll go to flamethrowers" 🤣
At 2:50 you can see Chrissy reading her note and then gasping when she realizes the twist. Then they cut to her reading it much later (I assume much later cause it looks like the sun is going down and she probably needed to calm down) and explaining the twist to the viewers. I would LOVE to see what she was saying in the moment before they cut to her confessional explanation. She was probably fuming and cussing and I want to see it all! 😆 I know I would've been seeing red after wanting him out for so long, all his idol plays, then this final chance to save himself again. Totally soul crushing for her. Give us the full scene Probst!!
FYI on Steph vs Bobby Jon, I'm pretty sure that they only got matches after they failed to make fire with flint but they just didn't show it. I've heard in interviews that this is exactly what happened in the later fire making challenge that season between Ian and Jen. Ian was normally able to make fire with flint, but he couldn't under pressure, and Jen wasn't a fire maker.
My favorite part of the beck v sundra battle was the hard cut to Ozzy and Yul both zonked out because of how long it was taking
Becky and Sundras fire making was so iconic that I knew it had happened on survivor before watching Cook Islands, didn’t know it was that season, and then realized that this was what I had heard about when I saw the opening frame of the fire making. I think something that makes me enjoy it even more is the fact that they went to fire making simply because ozzy wanted it to be as fair as possible. Yul would have voted for Sundra to go home over Becky, and Ozzy knew this. He decided to tie the votes not because he was closer to Sundra, but because he thought it was fitting that they made the final four together, and they should each get an equal chance to stay.
“Ozzy is Ozzy and he had immunity”. *South Pacific would like to know your location*
I was surprised by Tony and Sarah not being number 1, but then I remembered Becky and Sundra lol
I personally didnt care for it. I was too irritated by natalie not making michelle make fire. Sarah didnt care of she post to tony and i was tired of the cops r us duo
The look of pain on Jeff's face during that last entry is iconic
Imagine how infuriating it must have been for Ben when he realized he was off by ONE upside-down letter lmao if he didn't win the game.. that sht would have haunted him for life.
Bens season of survivor was my first one, and I LOVED his fire challenge. I had been rooting for him since the merge and was practically screaming when he won 😅
dude i love Ben, but when that season started Devon was my winner pick. and theres a good chance he wouldve won had he been in the final 3. so its always a bitter sweet feeling when i see that firemaking challenge
I loved chrissy especially her turn from face to heel, and was super bummed by her "winner's advantage"
@@geckohecko I can tell you're a wrestling fan as well.
Deshawn vs Heather in season 41 was pretty close. Heather may have gotten the purple edit that season, but it was an epic way to go out.
one of the only times I was actually on the edge of my seat for a firemaking competition. The difference was literal seconds!
Agreed! The whole time, I thought... she's almost winning this, but how? She can't possibly be final three with that edit, right?!
Yeah it was. It was a nail biter.
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@@beaujarkko and yet the winner also got that edit
Sundra was no match, while Becky keeps her fire going. Get it, no match. 😂🔥
Season 41 is one of the seasons I jumped out of my chair out of excitement! One of the best show downs by far!
How do you only have 50k subs, I don’t even watch survivor but the quality of your videos and voice is top notch. Keep up the good work
A great video after a great big brother finale this is making my day!
I normally don’t really like the fire making so I thought I wouldn’t like this video. But it was really interesting. Good job.
Gotta add Heidi now
Jeff: "Alright, we are going to nuclear bombs...."
Have forgotten how funny you are. Great video buddy. Plenty laffs.🤣
I like how the next season after this video, someone once again gives up immunity to win in firemaking.
I had no idea fellow edge members basically gave Chris his endgame strategy. Kinda takes a bit away from the win imo, even if the execution was bang on
I honestly think that’s the second biggest knock to his game. I think the edge should’ve reset after the merge
That would make it so someone who’s been there since the beginning doesn’t get as much as an unfair jury advantage. Have the merge reentry challenge, eliminate the losers. Have a finale reentry challenge, eliminate the losers.
"All right. We're going to gasoline."
Crazy that bob vs Matty didn't even get an honorable mention
The Season 41 fire making challenge was really good. Between DeShawn and Heather, that was a battle and Heather only lost by a few seconds.
I don’t think Heather would’ve won over Erika but I really enjoyed the fight they both put up.
I often think about an alternate reality where Michelle stands up and convinces Sarah to switch spots with her and go to final 3, she beats Tony in fire making (cause she was crushing it during practice) and wins the season for that ballsy move. I would've loved everyone millisecond of it!
I still think even in that situation Sarah would win. But I would LOVE to see Michelle place second instead of Natalie tbh.
1. Becky and Sundra (Cook Islands)- It's one of the funniest moments. Jury falling asleep, Ozzy facepalming, Jeff being pissed and having them go to matches which Sundra runs out of lol.
2. Stephanie and Bobby Jon (Palau)- The finale to the obliteration of Ulong. Nothing like this had or will happen again. None of knew what was going to happen.
3. Tony and Sarah (Winners at War)- We knew winner was going to win the season. The 2 friends being forced to compete and a bitter sweet victory to the winners at war season.
4. Ben and Devon (HvHvH)- Iconic because of how bad it was. Devon and Chrissy got screwed.
5. Chris v Devens (Edge of Extinction) -Chris made the move he had to do. It was an exciting moment.
6. Cirie and Danielle (Panama)- It's aged into an iconic moment because it's Cirie's first loss. Truthfully she loses the game anyway, but it was a memorable moment.
7. Bob and Matty (Gabon)- Sugar trying to keep Bob was memorable and we knew winner of this won the season.
8. Rodney and Carolyn (Worlds Apart)- Mike made a move we thought was potentially game ending. Also Dan laughing because he knew they both would be bad at it is underrated.
9. Carson and Heidi (44)- Memorable because how fast Heidi made fire.
10. Michelle and Aubry (Koah Rong)- It was fun to see this occur naturally and truthfully didn't know who would win.
11. Jonathan and Mike (42)- Fun trying to guess if Mike could actually beat the challenge beast Jonathan. He pulled it off!
12. Gabler and Jesse (43)- Heartbreaking to see Jesse lose who would have won the season.
13. Ian and Jenn (Palau)- Memorable because minutes before, we didn't see this coming. Jenn should have just been gone, but Ian opening his mouth made Tom give Jenn a chance.
14. Wendell and Angela (Ghost Island)- It was blowout and predictable, but I do remember Angela swapping stations at Wendell's request which is something.
15. Dean at Lauren (Island of the Idols)- Predictable. Noura made a bad move taking Tommy to the end.
16. Deshawn and Heather (41)- Just memorable because Xander made a bad move.
17. Jake and Katurah (45)- We knew winner was getting 3rd place, but fun to see Jake finally win something
18. Mike at Kara (David v. Goliath)- I truthfully can't remember anything other than Angelina thanking Nick for taking her to the end like she thought she could actually win the game lol.
Did I forget any?
For the Wendel one, it might've been Wendel who said it, but it's because of the curse of Purple on the Show (Purple Kelly, Purple Edits, and most Purple tribes do terrible Mattsing is a prime example), and whoever said it, didn't want to be added to that list
Luke is the best Survivor youtuber ever
I can't stop giggling omfg you're a riot.
14:29 i literally just rewatched this and couldnt BELIEVE it took them a whole hour and they STILL had to switch to matches like what!?
2:45 is so hilarious i was so dead 💀
it would be fun if Becky and Sundra choose a champion between Yul and Ozzy to represent them in fire-making if matches didn't work too.
You should do top 10 most accurate voters
Like the 10 people who have the best odds of the person they voted for going home
Btw now Heidi joins the giving up final immunity list
Dude you're funny af 🤣🤣🤣
Chip….Sole Survivor Of Ghost Island
Chris beat Rick in fire making and yet he still didn't vote for Chris to win. He voted for Gavin to win.
Victoria didn't even spend a single day in the game with Chris before he came back from the Edge, and she STILL thought he played a better game than two of her Kama tribemates.
@@roger_towny_jr True, although I believe she's said that she regrets her jury vote, but can't do anything about that now
@@giovanniorellana2200 That's not what I heard. I just heard she was "disappointed" that it was those three, and that she didn't feel like she had a good option.
Bold of you to say Ulong sucks more than Caryn
That’s the best thing War-dog did
Yoooo awesome 😮
Deshawn & Heather is definitely top 5
Heather vs Deshawn will always be the best match
Even if natalie did give up immunity to beat tony in fire making, there is no shot she beats sarah in final tribal, sarah and tony cleaned house together that season
I'm coming here right after watching Becky vs. Sundra. I honestly thought one of them was going to eliminate themselves chopping a thumb off before anybody got a flame. Seriously every time I see somebody trying to make a spark that way on this show I die inside.
we now have heidi from 44 to do it too
3:43 completely disagree. If anything, production decided to keep the firemaking challenge to hide that they were trying to fix it for Ben. It makes it look like they had always had that planned and it would be a mainstay for future seasons, when it really was not intended to be that.
Grow up. It wasn't for Ben specifically, but for players like Ben. I'd argue fire making at final four was created because of David from MvGX. They want an underdog to win, and they scored immediately with Ben, and scored big severally seasons later with Tony.
@@rokeYouuer "Grow up" lol. It was for player like Ben, you're right. WHICH IS EXACTLY WHY THEY MADE IT FOR BEN AND KEPT IT LOL
@@bingbong7213 Writing in all caps . . . using lol more than once in a comment . . . acting like reiterating your stance somehow makes it more right the second time . . . it's things like that that make me think you're either immature, or a literal ten-year-old.
@@rokeYouuer Yeah, cause we're fucking debating politics over here, totally not a back and forth about a stupid reality TV show... right?
@@bingbong7213 Hating on final four fire making isn't exactly a hot take, and you're not even trying to put any effort into being convincing. So yes, I'm focusing on the quality of your writing and not the quality of the arguments.
Ahh yep, I knew #1 would be #1
Incorrect! The best move by a third place boot is J’Tia dumping the fire and surviving the vote.
J'Tia is a fourth boot, actually! (Brice was third that season.) Otherwise I'd agree 😂
The materials that they gave Becky and Sundra had to have been wet or something right?
😂
Actually fire challenge sticking after Ben vs Devon proves all these theories even more because if you don’t want to be too obvious about it you act like it’s part of the plan lol
You wouldn't keep firemaking for that many seasons if it wasn't the plan.
I thought Becky vs Sundra at 1 was a joke but nope it’s there (I’d probably have Tony vs Sarah at 1)
Do a winner ranking soon(all 42 winning games)
Just because they kept doing it after Bens season doesn’t mean it wasn’t done originally to keep him on the show🤷🏾♀️
Seems unlikely they'd make up a twist mid season as blatant favouritism then despite the controversy keep it permenantly.
@@mnm1273 the controversy would be EXACTLY why they kept it. Makes them look better if it's a permanent change.
The Palau fire making created two things for survivor. The first was exile island with Stephanie for that one night and the other was not giving the contestants matches. Those are the only good things to come from Ulong.
where on earth is deshawn and heather? it was actually two seconds apart. granted erika still had the win on lock- it was still crazy to watch
In WaW, I’m just mad because neither Sarah or Ben made FTC
I wanted the jury to ream into them so baaaaad
Man Nathalie and Michelle had no shot against Tony or sarah
Chrissy’s note is when I lost hope for the show… when I finally realized the interference of production. This was the most bullshit excuse for letting Ben win. I’d always thought production had an influence but never thought it was that extreme. Fuck Maryanne won? 😂😂
This video might have been made before it aired, but in a recent Survivor season Heidi made it to the end and won the last immunity challenge, but decided to give up her immunity to build fire and improve her resume (since she was considered a goat to some). And she ended up setting the fastest fire making record on Survivor. She still lost the vote though lol.
i'm still upset over Devens losing that one in 38.
I think when you're against a pair like Tony and Sarah, your best move may be going to FTC with both of them. At least than the votes might split.
Come on, 41 deserves that #1 spot
3. I will risk my game to take out the best player this season. If it works, I win.
2. I have to play fire with my best friend. Whoever wins this wins the game.
1. How to make fire?
wait why does he never say chris’ name?
Fire making was made to favour alpha males because that’s Jeff Probst’s fav archetype…
Am i the only one that thought mandatory firemaking was introduced to rig the game to help Ben win. then producers realized the backlash they'll get, and pretended this wasn't a one time rigging and so doubled down and made it a permanent feature of the game.
I always got the impression that it was in fact pre planned, largely due to production's disappointment in people like David (MvGX) going home at final 3.
The stupid part, however, was them keeping it a secret "twist" for that season, instead of telling the players early.
If the other players know about the firemaking challenge on HHH, literally nothing changes. By the time anyone takes the shot at Ben, he's able to Ben Bomb his way to final 4 anyway. Just a terrible production decision that made them look far sketchier than they probably were.
Same goes for Ben's idol finds. As seen on both the season of winners at war, and the post show press, Ben is just REALLY good at susing out where productions might be hiding idols
@@brianregan5933 I had the exact same thought. People blame Ben for final four fire making, but it was clearly David that inspired a second chance for the most deserving winner to actually get a chance to win.
Jeff should've just kept it a final 2 and eliminated both Becky and Sundra.
Tony won, but at what cost?
Why is “Cops R Us” unfortunately named?
Great list by the way
How is it unfortunate?
@@IceW0lf198 that’s what I’m asking. He said in the video “the unfortunately named Cops R Us”
I don’t see why that’s unfortunate
Practice makes better not perfect nobody in nothing is perfect it's an impossible concept
They should of never had comebacks at the final 5…
4:25 what about the one with Boston Rob and Elizabeth on IOTI?
😂😂😂
Chris played 39 days just like every other winner did.
He survived 39 days, he played 6. I respect his win for the finale, but let’s not get it twisted.
@@jkingisbeast It depends on how you define days played. In this instance, I believe played is the number of days until they leave EoE
Just like every other winner... yeah no. Even Ben PLAYED for 39 days, not 6 days like Chris.
@@jkingisbeast What you and I think is irrelevant. The producers decide what counts as officially playing and as per the official rules of Survivor, Chris played an official total of 39 days. Those are the official facts.
I like it but the music gets too dang repetitive
Chris won. Devens lost. It's been enough time. Say his name. Anyway, Devens got that Sia pity money.
Do we have to listen to you Luke?
Lets go!!! First view!
You lost to a guy named nathan
@@SaraphDarklaw pain
Sorry man
First?
How does the fire making staying around prove that production didn’t just want a Ben win? They like that the challenge beast threats can win all the way to the end. If anything, it enforces that theory
Right? If anything, making it stick around is them trying to make it look legit.
Still sus, especially after Ben "found" an idol in the spot he would always go and sit in to think about his wife.
He just perfectly fit the American narrative of "veteran overcomes his weaknesses to win"
Hated Season 35's. I understand why it's on this list, but it was so clearly rigged for Ben
It was intended to be on season 34 and a twist like that doesn't become a staple of every season afterward cuz it was rigged for 1 person (which it wasn't)
@@cocosolis8240 makes me wish it had been on Season 34. Jeff seemed WAY too happy when Ben won that firemaking challenge (which basically meant he won the game). I know there's no direct proof that the game was rigged for Ben, but the amount of crazy luck he had in getting to the end (when in any prior season he would've been gone no matter what) is beyond extraordinary.
@@moviemaniac14 I stand by the fact that bob and Chris U are both luckier winners than Ben, but the edit certainly didn't do the rest of the final 7 of HHH any favors
@@cocosolis8240 that is true. Natalie White and Erika were 100% screwed over by the edits they received for their seasons.
Fire making sucks. Ben and Tony shouldn’t even be winners (well Tony 2x winner) because they only won because of fire making. Without it they would have been voted out it’s literally not fair
But it exists so we could have winners like Ben and Tony. Think of how many people got eliminated at final 4 that were clearly the most deserving to win, like David or Spencer. They could have won if fire making at final four existed.
@@rokeYouuer but remember it’s a strategic and social game. You can’t just get your way to the final four and then be like oh I’m good I’ll just make fire. If you get to final four and you’re out of options then that’s how it is. You didn’t plan properly and it’s showing. That sucks get on the jury you did this to yourself
@@Srcruser By that logic, having a F3 instead of a F2 "isn't fair." Hell, having Immunity Challenges "isn't fair."
"Remember it’s a strategic and social game. You can’t just get your way to the final N and then be like oh I’m good I’ll just WIN IMMUNITY. If you get to final N and you’re out of options then that’s how it is. You didn’t plan properly and it’s showing. That sucks get on the jury you did this to yourself"
@@rokeYouuer if you’re at final four, and you’re absolutely being voted out if there’s a vote, then you don’t deserve to be at the end, at all. That means you didn’t plan properly, you didn’t manage your threat level, and your lost your allies
@@grafzeppelin4069 final 3 is fair it’s been happening since season 13 and it was a great twist. While it doesn’t always give us this, it stops the physical threat from just taking the floater goat to the end and winning. Gives them a challenge
Youre allowed to talk about Chris without being annoyingly condescending yknow
Okay you’ve used the Chip joke too many times now switch it up