The Subtle Art of Staying Out of It - REWORK podcast
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- Опубликовано: 28 май 2024
- In this episode, REWORK host Kimberly Rhodes, talks with Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson, co-founders of 37signals, about the importance of stepping out of the day-to-day operations as a founder. Giving employees room to call the shots can spark new ideas and get things done faster. It also inspires people to think beyond just following orders.
Key Takeaways:
00:34 - The result of holding your grip too tight in your organization
02:36 - Find the middle ground between projects you should be directly involved in and those that can be managed by others
08:38 - Giving employees the freedom to make decisions can lead to increased productivity and better ideas
10:20 - Stepping in when it's necessary to realign urgency or quality
12:54 - Not all opinions weigh the same
15:28 - Trying to be involved in every task or decision reduces the organization's effectiveness
22:48 - Intent prompts people to think independently instead of just following a set of instructions, as described in the book Turn the Ship Around.
Links and Resources:
Staying Out of It Blog Post by Jason Fried - world.hey.com/jason/staying-o...
Turn The Ship Around book - davidmarquet.com/turn-the-shi...
Blue Ocean Strategy book - www.blueoceanstrategy.com/boo...
Books by 37signals - 37signals.com/books
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Rework is a production of 37signals. You can find show notes and transcripts on our website. Full video episodes are available on RUclips and X.
If you have a question for Jason or David about a better way to work and run your business, leave us a voicemail at 708-628-7850 or email, and we might answer it on a future episode.
I really appreciate this podcast. How lucky are we to get the wisdom of these two guys for free (and you also act as a great host Kimberly). And whilst I may not agree with everything, you guys always make me think and reflect. That's never a bad thing. Thank you!
So glad to hear it! And thanks for watching! -Kimberly
As someone who follows both Jason and David on X, it's fun seeing timely episodes based on posts of theirs that really resonate with me. While both are very engaged in their posts' comments, it's a whole different thing watching them talk about it, seeing their excitement and seeing their brains picked.
Thanks for watching the podcast and the kind words. Much appreciated! -Kimberly
Nice discussion! I like the way you guys explain how the small things get together to form big things. And how to notice and interpret the small signs that organizations show. Thanks for the podcast!
So glad you enjoyed it. Thanks for watching! - Kimberly
It is a great perspective. Subtle mean you should have a good hiring process. Put right people (with right profile) in the right places otherwise delegate responsibilities in such way can be risky.
Finding the right people is key! Thanks for watching. -Kimberly
I keep trying to find out hints of what the next Once product is. You are good at not slipping up. Lol
It has since been revealed! Check out Jason's post on X with details and screenshots: x.com/jasonfried/status/1793385721581236377. Enjoy! -Kimberly