The short lived first hot Sierra from 1983 which wasn't all that popular... 1983 Ford Sierra XR4i

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  • @Andyjenkins183
    @Andyjenkins183 Месяц назад +17

    This guy is such a brilliant presenter, could listen all day

    • @iangray5316
      @iangray5316 Месяц назад +3

      Really slick delivery, no bumbling or waffle. Great job.

    • @chrisdorrell1
      @chrisdorrell1 Месяц назад +2

      Doesn't know his facts he is awful . Know te facts b4 spouting crap.

    • @jf2613
      @jf2613 Месяц назад +1

      Very enjoyable and informative, not to mention a fantastic trip down memory lane.

    • @24th1879
      @24th1879 Месяц назад +2

      @@chrisdorrell1 Such as?

    • @simongray2533
      @simongray2533 Месяц назад +2

      ​@@chrisdorrell1Care to educate us all? 🤣🤣

  • @alisonsmith3817
    @alisonsmith3817 28 дней назад +2

    My dad had 1 in 1985
    Loved the car , proper iconic

  • @silvermane9370
    @silvermane9370 Месяц назад +28

    Having sold cars for most of the 80s the introduction of the sierra was an ice cold culture shock. This particular model was iirc built in Belgium at the Ghent plant. Its nickname was the ‘Belgian Bi-plane’ after the twin rear spoiler. I must admit this is one of my guilty pleasure cars. I would have bought the example you are driving if not for the fact that i can only now drive automatics. One of the killers for the sierra in the fleet market was that at launch the ford 1.6 had 75bhp. The cavalier 1.6 had 90bhp and fwd. it felt much much quicker on the road. In the early 80s the 1.6 was the ubiquitous engine for reps. Ford remedied this with the 90bhp 1.8 version available at no extra cost. The sierra was always more comfortable and the cavalier rode more harshly but felt more zesty day to day. Both cars were fantastic value. I think the Cavalier SR/SRi was a much better package than the XR4i. I have owned several of both.

    • @100tallpaul
      @100tallpaul Месяц назад

      I owned a mk1 and mk2 XR2 back in the day, a couple of XR3is and a XR3is convertible and a Sapphire Cosworth. The XR4i never appealed to me, although looking back, now I'm 50 years old, I wish I had owned one.

    • @muckle8
      @muckle8 29 дней назад +1

      Bottom line was the fact that the cologne v6 never had enough torque or shove to keep the boy racers happy especially when powering all 4 wheels . , these things really should have left the factory with a turbocharger imho.

  • @tjfSIM
    @tjfSIM Месяц назад +6

    Great video and an iconic car! I remember this being the only Sierra to be tooled by Matchbox, we never got the standard hatchback - presumably because they thought it was too boring! I'm still trying to wrap my head around the fact that Sierra only lived for 11 years - it seemed to be around forever!

    • @nkt1
      @nkt1 Месяц назад

      I had a Matchbox one; same colour as this example, but with a broad, dotted red stripe down the side.

    • @tjfSIM
      @tjfSIM Месяц назад +1

      @@nkt1 Ha ha yep I remember that one! Seem to remember they did them in quite a few different colours and combinations. I think I had a black one with just the red rubstrip.

  • @sugarsaint
    @sugarsaint Месяц назад +4

    To my mind the ford Sierra is the forerunner of most modern cars from boxy angled to more rounded form of cars today

  • @srednivashtar5432
    @srednivashtar5432 Месяц назад +3

    Technical/historical content aside, this is a really well presented video. Good skills.

  • @briansaiditsoitmustbetrue4206
    @briansaiditsoitmustbetrue4206 Месяц назад +4

    I would love to have this classic car... It takes so many "Yes" boxes.

  • @user-fs7uq8ie4u
    @user-fs7uq8ie4u Месяц назад +7

    I had an 1987 xr4x4 2.8 ....it was the car ford should have brought out in the first place. Genuinely fast point to point...stuck to road and loads of feedback because it was actually rear wheel drive biased...split was roughly 67 to 33 to the rear. Driven xr4is and they couldn't come near a 4x4 on any twisty bits. Both excellent cars though.

    • @sierraalphaalphabravo9705
      @sierraalphaalphabravo9705 Месяц назад +1

      Lots of passenger experience in the XR4x4, lovely motors. Have also scratched the Sierra itch in my driving career with a brief stint as custodian of a 2.0 GLS facelift. I will always have a soft spot for them.

    • @martytdd1606
      @martytdd1606 Месяц назад +2

      ​@@sierraalphaalphabravo9705Leaned to drive in my dad's 1987 pre facelift 1.8 L back in 1992. My mate's dad had a brand new 1.8 Sapphire the same year, great memories. Always intended to get myself one, Im turning 50 in september still havn't done it. 🤷‍♂️ 😂

    • @domfjbrown75
      @domfjbrown75 Месяц назад

      ​@@martytdd1606Sapphires are lush cars!!!

  • @neilmustow368
    @neilmustow368 Месяц назад +6

    Remember the XR4i coming out in the Summer of 1983 when aged 9 years old

    • @jimwilson7193
      @jimwilson7193 Месяц назад

      Me too. My dad bought me the radio controlled version 😊

  • @mcjdubpower
    @mcjdubpower Месяц назад +3

    I was mesmerised by the first sierra.

  • @caeserromero3013
    @caeserromero3013 29 дней назад +1

    As a kid I had the Lombard RAC rally PC game which featured the Sierra . I used to fly round the tracks in that. Tried playing it again a while back with Dos Box and I could hardly stay on the track! My reflexes must have dimmed a bit over the last 35 years 😂😂

  • @kevdoran9918
    @kevdoran9918 Месяц назад +3

    The jelly mould turned into the fabulous cozzie…

  • @neilturner6749
    @neilturner6749 Месяц назад +2

    It’s worth remembering that the original 3DR Cosworth, was a sales disaster too. Imagine it taking years today to sell-out on a limited run homologation special ! I recall visiting my local Ford dealer’s storage yard a couple of years after the Cosworth was launched and finding 10 unsold, unregistered examples in a selection of colours. Sticker prices were £15,995 for the regular models and £17,995 for the two RS500s. I think that was around 25% discount from official list. Despite the big discounting, these cars still hadn’t sold at the dealership and had been moved offsite to the discreet yard to be sold via word-of-mouth only. My cousin (who was a salesman at the dealership) told me they’d accept any sensible offers just to get rid and the salesmen were being huge bonuses to shift hem.

  • @BionicRusty
    @BionicRusty Месяц назад +2

    I owned, for many years, a 1990 2wd XR4i in Radiant Red.
    2.0L DOHC with the MT75 gearbox.
    They were touted as a badging exercise with the 4x4 exterior styling and should have come from the factory with 125bhp.
    For some reason, mine had 150 bhp.
    I bought it at ~2yrs old and it definitely wasn’t chipped.
    Such a lovely car. ❤️
    Great video 👍

    • @anthonyheathcote1932
      @anthonyheathcote1932 Месяц назад +1

      2.8i xr4i

    • @Zadster
      @Zadster Месяц назад

      @@anthonyheathcote1932 No, there was a 2.0i XR4i and XR4x4 in the later body style too. The 8 valve 'I4' DOHC engine designed for the Granada. Nice and torquey. There was a 16 valve version used on the FWD and 4x4 Escort RS2000.

  • @anthonykidd1963
    @anthonykidd1963 Месяц назад +1

    I had one of these A93 RTC loved it!!

  • @sfedroid
    @sfedroid Месяц назад +3

    Never had a hot version but I did love my 1.8 CVH Sierra. Had enough grunt to get you sideways or 180 if you hit an oil patch. Would do around 110mph before you let the engine tell you "enough!"
    Proper all analogue old school driving with no PAS, no ABS, no TC, no ESP. Servicing cost peanuts. I once ran it almost completely dry of oil at 90mph because I thought the tapping of the valve lifters was a leaf in the air vent 🤣 But a couple of bottles of GTX sorted it with no harm done. That 1.8 CVH must be one of the toughest engines ever made.

    • @TJSTR
      @TJSTR Месяц назад +2

      I had a 1986 1.6 and then a 1992 1.8LX which maybe had the engine you refer to. It was fun pulling out of junctions in the wet - had just enough power and I did do a 180 once on some diesel! I think any more power to the rear wheels without traction control and I’d have been in trouble. The 1.8 was my first car that I’d actually say ‘accelerated’. My earlier 1.0 Austin Metro and the 1.6 sierra had acceleration times measured by calendar…in truth those cars were both knackered and better examples may have been nicer. Of course these were early days for me so I loved them all, polishing away rust and having welding work for every MOT.

  • @user-kc3fn1gu6g
    @user-kc3fn1gu6g Месяц назад +2

    I love sierra's .I grew up with them .
    Horrible in an accident though😢

  • @chrishood5079
    @chrishood5079 Месяц назад +4

    Great Video...

  • @xr4icossie
    @xr4icossie Месяц назад +4

    Had my current 4i 22 years. Done a full Cosworth conversion on it, goes a lot better now lol

    • @V8GECKO
      @V8GECKO 22 дня назад

      Please tell me you have kept the two rear side windows.....

    • @xr4icossie
      @xr4icossie 22 дня назад

      @@V8GECKO yes

  • @peterthornton2396
    @peterthornton2396 24 дня назад

    My dad bought a brand new F reg 2.3 DGL sierra. I’ve owned two sapphire cossies ❤

  • @chrisblay
    @chrisblay Месяц назад +3

    I remember going for a mock job interview at a Ford dealership in my last year of school. At least half the time was spent talking about public perception of the then relatively new (showing my age) Sierra. It seemed they were having trouble shifting them at that time.

  • @beaudidlyno1
    @beaudidlyno1 Месяц назад

    I had a XR4i , it was a left hand drive with full leather. It was a Brodie Britain Racing Turbo with a full RS500 body kit but retaining the stacked 4i rear wing and the wheels were TSW Evos. Fantastic car and one of many past cars I wish I still had..

  • @martinboulden4388
    @martinboulden4388 Месяц назад +2

    It was a great car when it came out but so was the Capri 2.8i so a difficult choice in the showroom. ❤

  • @rakido7388
    @rakido7388 25 дней назад

    I had a GLS with the 2.9 V6 and 4WD, very similar to the XR4x4. It was a complete hoot to drive, even if you could visibly see the fuel gauge going down. And hear the trees coughing as you drove past.

  • @zogzoogler
    @zogzoogler 23 дня назад

    Here in the UK we also had the Ascona (we had 2), in essence the Cavalier without the dropped nose - also the Manta all part of GM Opel Vauxhall. Ascona was the last front engined RWD world rally championship winning car (W. Rohl)

  • @Simon-ui6db
    @Simon-ui6db Месяц назад

    We had a y reg 2.0 ghia hatchback when i was a kid back in the 80s, and immediatly fell in love with them. Yes it drank like a fish. And when I could drive, I had a few 1.6 and 1.8 hatchbacks and saloons. The Saphire was even better to drive than the hatchback, but love them all both the same (just not as much as rover 75s. )

  • @seamuscarroll2779
    @seamuscarroll2779 21 день назад +1

    I hate to contradict, but the Orion was a version of the Escort. The saloon version of the Sierra was the Saphire.

  • @piersderoos6941
    @piersderoos6941 Месяц назад

    I had a light blue one in 92 best most fun car i ever owned.

  • @ianc3293
    @ianc3293 Месяц назад

    Seen a red j reg 4x4 Sierra in my local pub car park yesterday, looked in good nick

  • @50037
    @50037 Месяц назад +1

    Shame it didn't sell in your July Auction

  • @markarnold8160
    @markarnold8160 27 дней назад

    Similarly, I had a 1986 Ghia 4x4 2.8i. Great fun to drive - 70mph on roundabouts was possible 😮

  • @XPLOSIVization
    @XPLOSIVization Месяц назад

    I've always compared the Sierras look to a woodlouse, It was very unique to everything else on the market at the time, Most of the cars were very similar in shape and style, And maybe thats what put alot of people off, Personally i like the shape and style, and it was a car everyone knew what it was when they saw it driving about

  • @rustystuff
    @rustystuff Месяц назад

    Thanks for the ride 😊

  • @jjefferyworboys8138
    @jjefferyworboys8138 Месяц назад +1

    A great car, the thinking mans Capri 2.8i.

  • @darrensmith6999
    @darrensmith6999 Месяц назад

    I remember when the Sierra came out when i was a teenager wow did it look strange, but pushing the envelope is often tough to start with but they got there .

  • @cwshtygriff13
    @cwshtygriff13 Месяц назад +1

    Beautiful 🤩

  • @fuzzynutter8344
    @fuzzynutter8344 Месяц назад

    The XR4i sort of set a template for performance cars in this class which eventually saw rivals spawn performance versions some years later with similar power outputs. Like the Cavalier GSi2000, 405 Mi16, BX GTi 16, Renault 21 Turbo etc. While most went down the route of 2.0 16v engines, Ford still stuck it out with the 2 valve head, larger capacity engine.

  • @adebrade172
    @adebrade172 Месяц назад +2

    I had one but it had a bit of a drink problem

  • @DragonNova
    @DragonNova 26 дней назад

    It was great 👍

  • @simonhodgetts6530
    @simonhodgetts6530 Месяц назад +1

    I still love that the print on the rear quarter window says ‘XR4’ - apparently Ford decided it was getting fuel injection after the glass graphics had been signed off. As for the car - I had a Matchbox model that I loved, but if I was looking for a fast Ford in ‘83/‘84 I’d have gone for the Capri 2.8 Injection - the XR4i was just silly. Ford rescued it, I think with the excellent XR4x4.

    • @dungareesareforfools
      @dungareesareforfools Месяц назад

      It was just the name that was changed late in the day. There never was a version without fuel injection.

  • @WileyFox01
    @WileyFox01 Месяц назад +3

    The Mk5 Cortina was 1979-1982.

  • @Technaudio
    @Technaudio Месяц назад

    The additional C pillar on this model makes it look much better proportioned than the 2 door Sierra's that didn't have it, even though they're the same size. I'm sure I've read that this pillar is actually to make the body more rigid, and not just a styling thing?

  • @stevefox3763
    @stevefox3763 Месяц назад

    Never had a Mk1 sierra but always and still do think they are ugly, loved the many Mk2 sierra sapphire's I owned, my current car is a V6 mondeo :)

  • @vinnylee878
    @vinnylee878 Месяц назад +1

    They called it a jelly mould when it first came out,it was a big change in shape for the time,I commented before you said it,thought being young you would have missed that bit

  • @gavinivers8941
    @gavinivers8941 Месяц назад +1

    Ford re-engined that car to make the XR4Ti , the for runner to the Cosworth, sold in Germany and the USA.
    I think they used the same shell in South Africa dropping in a 5 litre V8 for local racing.
    When do we get to look at the Lotus Cortina in the background?

  • @alfagtvjan
    @alfagtvjan Месяц назад +2

    In the day Autocar put the XR4i up against the still available Capri 2.8i and they put the Capri ahead.

    • @2handstony935
      @2handstony935 Месяц назад +1

      Had them both in period and have to agree

  • @Bd-ox4mi
    @Bd-ox4mi Месяц назад

    My dad had the 2.4 ghia in blue metallic from 86

    • @redsidebiker
      @redsidebiker Месяц назад

      No he didn't. It was a 2.3v6. I rented one for a week in 1988 and it didn't rev very well, but it covered motorway miles in a way that I had never experienced. I've driven, owned and liked Sierras and Cavaliers. I prefer the Cav, but always wanted either the XR4i or Cossie. Got other and faster cars in the interim, I'd still buy one at the right price.

  • @jesuspobre88
    @jesuspobre88 Месяц назад +1

    Nice nice🎉

  • @stephenphilipson3570
    @stephenphilipson3570 Месяц назад

    The best looking Sierra

  • @Ron-io3vu
    @Ron-io3vu Месяц назад

    Had one exactly the same has that one same colour and everything back in Late 80s

  • @kevincross9206
    @kevincross9206 Месяц назад +1

    Should never have sold my silver XR4i ☹️
    I wonder if A390UGC (as was at least) still lives??

    • @JohnSmith-ef8nr
      @JohnSmith-ef8nr Месяц назад +1

      It was last taxed in October 1999
      I regret selling my silver one as well.

  • @PompeyMatt17
    @PompeyMatt17 24 дня назад

    nice review...the early Sierras did have a front grill...think it was the XR4 you have there that didn't....then of course we have......the Cosworth....

  • @wafflesnfalafel1
    @wafflesnfalafel1 Месяц назад

    my father-in-law had the US spec XR4ti, even the same color, back in the day. Quick, fun car, except it ate turbos every 60k miles....

  • @John-tz2pk
    @John-tz2pk 23 дня назад +1

    Merkur xr4ti , brits got the 2.8 cologne while Americans got a turbo in line 4.

  • @user-re6yo7tj5s
    @user-re6yo7tj5s Месяц назад

    Given that the XR4x4 was being developed simultaneously from 1982-83, the XR4i was only ever going to be a stop gap but they we're still available for the majority of the mk1's production span. Hardly short lived.

  • @alifloydtv
    @alifloydtv Месяц назад

    I'm an '82 model myself, so I grew up seeing these and mk2 Cavaliers, and ALWAYS thought the Sierra was a much better looking, cooler car. Plus my Dad was always weirdly furious about them being RWD, which may have increased the appeal (I drive an RWD car now - turbocharged rather than V6, sadly!)

  • @JaymondoGB
    @JaymondoGB 28 дней назад

    Always looked at it as a rebodied Capri

  • @jimwilson7193
    @jimwilson7193 Месяц назад +1

    The design was inspired by the 928

  • @davidbrooks187
    @davidbrooks187 Месяц назад

    Enjoyed the video. Was you even born in 1983 ?

  • @JohnSmith-ef8nr
    @JohnSmith-ef8nr Месяц назад

    Wow, i had one in that colour, and a black one, sold them for £500 each 😢
    The gearboxs were rubbish, always blowing up.
    Also had a 2.9 XR 4x4 with the much stronger gearbox.

  • @mcjdubpower
    @mcjdubpower Месяц назад

    Hello 👋

  • @J1GM-o9o
    @J1GM-o9o Месяц назад

    It was ugly back then but now it has gained the aura of becoming a classic.

  • @duncanpoundcake
    @duncanpoundcake Месяц назад +1

    I had a MK 4 Cortina, that blew a hole in the diff, pissed all the oil onto the M25 resulting in the diff welding itself together.
    I had a MK 5 Cortina, where the gear stick would regularly detach itself from the gearbox, generally on a dual carriageway.
    I liked the XR4i. A poor man's Cosworth and remember seeing plenty being driven round in the middle to late 80's.

  • @Rich.Aardvark
    @Rich.Aardvark Месяц назад +1

    Mark Currys lad

  • @matthewadams4207
    @matthewadams4207 Месяц назад

    Ed are you hosting two channels now?

  • @mcjdubpower
    @mcjdubpower Месяц назад

    Gud vid 💯💥

  • @jamesengland7461
    @jamesengland7461 Месяц назад

    I distinctly remember disliking the style of the Ford Taurus here in the US, and the Sierra as well [Merkur here], but I eventually began to like the Taurus. I still think it looks better than this.

  • @bealzibub4002
    @bealzibub4002 28 дней назад

    Is that Andy’s car?

  • @douglasbooth6836
    @douglasbooth6836 26 дней назад

    My dad got one instead of his 320bmw. It was better but he did go back to BMWs.

  • @capt_flapper
    @capt_flapper 25 дней назад

    My Mum's and her bf bought one 1991 for 6k, my Mum asked me to collect something from the car one day, I rung the neck on that V6, she got in the car asked what is that smell of burnt rubber 😂

  • @Edgel-in6bs
    @Edgel-in6bs Месяц назад

    Didn't it cost way more than the capri and was slower?

  • @LoosleyLouise
    @LoosleyLouise Месяц назад

    I had one the same reg was A899 NOO

  • @deanstevenson6527
    @deanstevenson6527 Месяц назад

    🥝✔️

  • @chrishood5079
    @chrishood5079 Месяц назад

    Please can you do a piece on the 3 series behind you..?

  • @alexanderstefanov6474
    @alexanderstefanov6474 20 дней назад

    Uwe is pronounced oovey

  • @mary-roserussell8097
    @mary-roserussell8097 Месяц назад

    I rather foolishly cancelled an order for a new Saab 900 16v turbo and bought one of these Xr4i's instead from the Southampton Ford dealership. It unfortunately had a problem with the drivetrain which was never ever really sorted out by Ford under the warranty. My missus and I drove it to Switzerland in the firts year of ownership where it was looked on by the locals with some incredulity. I was never really convinced by the car and sold it to a Southampton footballer after a year and went back to the Saab dealer in Southampton and ordered a black Saab 16v Turbo Carlsson....a fabulous car.

  • @BarringtonRobinsonII
    @BarringtonRobinsonII Месяц назад

    These old Ford V6’s were dog rough and roared like a bolshy old Lion when you revved them . The 2.8 and 2.9 xr4x4 had laughable transmission losses, a 1.8 Sri mk2 Cav would bladder one in acceleration.

  • @wesstarmedia
    @wesstarmedia Месяц назад +1

    It has always been a nice looker and, for a while, was as cheap as chips. Whoever ordered one without pas must have been a cheapskate, though.

  • @coddiwomplecolster7329
    @coddiwomplecolster7329 Месяц назад

    I believe that the last time through the auction, it fetched £10,500 or thereabouts. I hear that the owner is hoping for double that.

  • @BanjoLuke1
    @BanjoLuke1 Месяц назад

    The Sierra was such a strange beastie when it emerged.
    None were pretty, nut some were just awkward and gawky.
    The XR4i didn't work aesthetically, nor did the cheaper models with odd-coloured grille panels.
    The Sierra worked best (looks wise) as an estate or a Sapphire saloon.
    From the outset it seemed somehow to be one of those evolutionary dead ends...

  • @johnmadden2421
    @johnmadden2421 Месяц назад

    Dull car. Years ago a Kiwi mate wanted to do a racing experience at Pembrey, driving Formula First, Ford and hopefully a F3. He wanted me to come with him. I'd been racing for 9 years for real so wasn't keen but anyhow off we went. My mate hired an XR4i. Absolutley nothing exceptional about it. Both of us were disappointed. Admittedly I do not much like the Sierra. I drove a 1600 hire car which rattled and banged and the gearbox was crunchy. My younger brother also owned one in NZ and it was a banger. I've owned Cortinas Mk I and II and IV and for their time they were a hoot.

  • @mikebreen2890
    @mikebreen2890 Месяц назад

    Convert it to electric.

  • @chrisdorrell1
    @chrisdorrell1 Месяц назад

    The Xr4 was everywhere when I was a young man so please get your facts right. Unpopular silly thing to say. You were there so you don't know .

  • @oliveroneill1388
    @oliveroneill1388 Месяц назад

    1.6. Engine . Shite

  • @I-Libertine
    @I-Libertine Месяц назад

    Don't you mean XR4Ti? 😂

  • @techknowledgey7327
    @techknowledgey7327 Месяц назад +1

    Stop repeating yourself, make your point once and move on.

  • @DS-fo4ed
    @DS-fo4ed 29 дней назад

    He’s talking a lot of shite in amongst some useful info

  • @miremare9052
    @miremare9052 Месяц назад

    I've always thought if you round off that boot line you're not far off the looks of the AMC Pacer!