Nyanners Thoughts on Arcadum
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Hearing all of the behind-the-scenes stress that Nyanners and Snuffy articulated in their thoughts about it really concerns me. I hope that when they find a new campaign to play in, that they have fun first. I loved her character so much and with everything that has transpired on top of the fact that they were experiencing anxiety before the game, I hope to god that they don’t get turned off to the game. It saddened me that Snuffy already got partially turned off to the game… and hearing from Nyanners as well, it makes me concerned about the girls that haven’t talked about it yet like Haruka and Froot.
Nyanners actually asked about a lot of things in the Discord server that used to be Verum (It's been transferred to a new owner and renamed and basically totally rebuilt.) She sounds like she's gonna try and find another game but there's no question this shook her. I can't blame her. It's an absolute shame all these new players had this as their first DnD experience.
Well, Snuffy and Nyanners aren’t exactly DND faithful. It’s something they’d enjoy, but not necessarily commit to. I can see Haruka definitely going into DND in the future.
It still saddens me to imagine what Mousey, Taka, and Zentreya think of all this. It’s a betrayal in a way for everyone.
I’m not so much concerned about whether they will play DND, so much as coming to terms with everything that happened.
they've already got a campaign lined up with World of Io by Brett, the guy who played Ryn in Pride of the Nightwolf, here's Vei talking about it ruclips.net/video/Y-RMxnWUiFs/видео.html&ab_channel=Raine
Yeah last week was a total disaster, especially for the girls directly involved, but it feels great to hear that Nyan is hopeful for a potential new campaign, and much better dnd experience, think they're going to be playing with BrettUltimus
@Delta_62 if I or the other staff have know half of this, we would have quit or called out Arcadum years ago. Especially about folkona.
The first rule of D&D is "As long as everyone's having fun, you're doing it right." The rest is just a suggestion.
@@oriandthesleepytime min maxers are a different breed.
There's misconception that it's a geeky game for introverts, but in reality, D&D is one of the most social games out there where main mechanics are reading the room and literally communicating with one another.
@@ihaveaplan.ijustneedmoney.9777 not for introverts, definitely for geeks :)
Rule #2 - NEVER game with couples, for the drama & problems WILL ensue...
I hope they all get a chance to try it again. They were all good and deserve to enjoy it as many of us do.
I believe they are in talks about a test campaign with brettultimas. He is a really talented dm and has a lot of arcadum's old players in his campaigns as well
World Of Io
It's the fact that they were getting actual anxiety from a game that's supposed to be fun for them and getting drunk because of whatever reason it was, makes me so mad.
But at the very least, it makes me relieved that they loved the support they got from playing it and wanting to continue having fun with each other.
Hopefully they'll have fun with their new campaign. I know Brett is gonna try his best to give them a very good DND experience. And he seems very capable in my eyes. (Despite me not seeing an actual campaign of his yet, and just listening from other people)
Wish Brett luck on making it fun for them. And wishing the girls that fun will hit them like a semi-truck and that they will enjoy themselves.
I get anxiety playing DnD... but I'm usually the DM and I want to put on a good game for my players. This whole situation is so fucked.
Started watching a few of his campaigns recently (Goblins of Io, Hunters of Io, Nova Hellscape) and he really seems like such a fun, chill, and genuine DM. I can definitely see why a lot of ex-Verum players/community members are regulars in his campaigns even before this whole tragedy went down, and some of them are even the female players who Arcadum hurt like Momo and Naomi (who are both playing in Hunters of Io/Spire of Euclid and seem to be enjoying themselves a lot more now). Even Summer, a former staff member of Arcadum, can vouch for Brett both as a DM and an individual. Brett even gave her the role of "Accountability Manager" so community members can go to her for any concerns they have regarding him and she will take care of it for them. So personally I think this is suffice to say that the girls are going to be in good hands this time.
Highly recommend anyone to check out his campaigns in the "World of Io" YT channel. Been binging Goblins of Io and some of the moments there were literally the hardest I've laughed watching any D&D campaign! The World of Io is still relatively new (currently near the end of Phase 2. I believe the girls will be playing a short campaign under this Phase just to get back into the groove of DnD and also to see if they're compatible with Brett's DMing, then will be given the chance to play a longer campaign under Phase 3 if they so wish) so it's easier to catch up on and there's definitely still a lot to look forward to.
@@jrod3755 100% having recently binged the 3 campaigns you mentioned first, it feels like the players will have a lot less pressure with a lot more accommodating of a DM. I liked Verum, but Arcadum was never a fraction as helpful or patient as a DM as Brett is even with more experienced players. For new players trying to get a feel for the game I have zero doubt Brett will do a better job at introducing them to DnD.
The amount of lore and work Arcadum puts into his campaigns is intimidating. Even as a viewer, it’s quite imposing.
Tho he’s not aggressive, he’s still quite imposing
I assume this is BrettUltimus? Will he take over in Verum or has he invited them to one of his own games?
Christ on a bike; no wonder the Otikata crew seemed so out of it during their sessions, everybody was buzzed or plastered. I thought they were just in-character but the reality is beyond horrifying. DnD SHOULD be FUN, Nyanners, and it's a damn shame you, Snuffy, Vei, Froot, and Haruka felt the need to drink yourselves to a state of semi-chill.
I hope you girls find a better DM, one who gives y'all the experience you deserve.
Yeah, it seemed like after the 5th episode they were kinda just committed to it but not enjoying it that much. Okitaka's curse was the first DnD session I actually listened to (I went back and listened to the Death and Debts/Steel and Silence) and the entire tone shift happens there as well, but it seems like Momo had been "done with it" as well in the middle of S&S.
I hope the girls all get to play D&D together again with a new DM. It sucks that these characters might not get used again. If anything, Vei and Silvervale were so gung-ho about playing D&D that I'm sure eventually they will be the same game sometime.
I really like dnd and this group of vtubers, but those games didn't look fun at all. Couldn't really tell why though, I'm glad they recognized they weren't enjoying it and left.
@@Kisai_Yuki Has I hear (IDK if they doing same) most of the players seem to be switching to Bret, he a nice guy, good GM, even still he put up a co manger so this won't EVER happen to anyone EVER again.
I have read dnd horror stories. But this... this will be the most recognizable dnd horror story ever. The scale of people addressing about it can't be compared on reddit
I became a forever DM because I had to replace my group DM because of a DND horror story back in 1996. I could never get into their DND game because Arcanum just rubbed me the wrong way.
Poor Nyanners. I feel bad for all of them, hearing the various accounts of how awful it was. Any DM would kill for the kind of enthusiasm they had going in, and Arcadum absolutely squandered it by being overbearing and shitty towards them. All we can hope is that none of them were so affected by it that they choose not to play anymore, because that would be a real shame.
I mean she said in this video that they plan on starting a new different campaign so while maybe a little shaken by this experience they have not been turned off entirely
Snuffy said she could see herself never playing again due to it, and only is considering giving a second shot because is Vei who's asking.
Yeah Vei found them a new dm, BrettUltimus
This is what I was saying. I would cry literal tears to have players that are as enthusiastic as they were! At first I was incredibly enthused that they would go and find a D&D "tutor" to get better at the game, and that turned to horror when I learned that they did so because of how hard Arcadum was making it on them and that he got mad at them for reaching out to anyone that wasn't him. Learning they didn't even have their character sheets or made their own backstories was just... wildly wrong.
As a DM myself, I would be appalled to learn my players were so stressed. It's a bit of a meme that the DM is often the group therapist, but that joke is based in reality, and if your players are _drinking_ to cope with the situation then everything needs to come to a screaming halt.
I hope to the gods they get to do this right the second time around.
@@Verbose_Mode Hold on, are you saying that none of the girls had access to their character sheets during the games, and couldn't even decide their own backstories - with Arcadum presumably basically deciding their characters' entire pasts? I'm a bit of a TTRPG newbie (played several sessions on three different games and I'd like to learn how to DM), but if that is true none of that feels right.TTRPGs are supposed to be collaborative storytelling, and the girls were not even able to choose their own sides of the story and use the basic information support that allows them to be in control of their actions?
And don't get me started on how Arcadum was unable to provide a balanced challenge for new players and blasted them for what is basically a natural learning process.
I might get it wrong, I'm just extrapolating from what you said, but I don't see how any of this makes sense for a DM, especially as experienced as Arcadum is.
The fact they felt like they HAD to get drunk before a session is beyond fucked up.......that's so upsetting to hear :(
True. But that has little to do with Arcadum. The nature of ballancing D&D, involved jobs/commissions as well as pressure to entertain and keep a time schedule for multiparty sized campaign, is only good if all parties involved give it their 100% and even then it can fail because your essentially playing something where a dice will decide whether your character returns or not the next day. And if you compare this to a normal D&D game where your just chilling with friends and can say well ...sorry guys this fight is bullshit, my bad....it will be a dreamsequence. It will not cost you 1000 viewers.
@@LocalBeachLion Are you delusional??
@@LocalBeachLion imagine being an arcadum fan lmao
So cringe
You know what? The contrast between HoloLive English's World of Darkness campaign and Arcadum's DM-ing style really shows the importance of allowing your players to have fun. Of course, there are difficult choices the players go through in both campaigns that test the players' ability to play the game with skill and good roleplay, but Myth-Breakers is SOO much more entertaining to watch because everyone is chill, pumped, having fun, and on board with the game. They have fun, and by extension the viewers catch those waves of enjoyment and have a great time too!
And when the players weren't feeling the game that session in Myth-Breakers? When technical issues prevented the session from being as good as it could be? The players decided with the Storyteller to switch to something else, so that EVERYONE DIDN'T HAVE TO STRESS OUT! NOBODY WAS FORCED TO PLAY! That was SOOO reassuring to watch, because it shows how having FUN was the point of the game and campaign, and when it wasn't fun, they were confident enough to drop it and do something that they could actually have fun with for that stream! Sure, those die-hards who wanted Mythbreakers may have complained, but seeing the group have fun with Gartic Phone after jumping the campaign ship rather than trying to slog through something that simply wasn't working was so REFRESHING!
It might be worn out comparing streamed dnd games to critical role, but it’s apt here. Critical role isn’t popular simply because the DM and Players are talented, but also because they’re all extremely close friends who legitimately have fun together.
Calli is ten times the DM arcadum ever was because she follows the one rule you're supposed to follow as a dm: fuck the rules, have fun.
@@bearVshark100 There was a moment in Calli's session that made me fall in love with her Storyteller style. Gura had been making jokes about finding portals into another world all session, and did something disruptive: i.e., took down a mirror looking for portals. Rather than punish her for wasting time, or giving her everything she wanted, Calli used the opportunity to crack a joke about a portal into cockroach society.
they should do a vshojo-holoen colab campaign with calli as DM
@@themocaw Lets not forget that later she also revealed that behind the cockroaches there was also just a literal portal as well. Calli's dming is a trip.
For those that don't know, for the ensuing few days after the news came out, Nyanners was in Discord several times talking directly with the community. She was very raw about how she felt and honestly, it was really infuriating to hear certain parts of it. I hope she and the others are able to really experience the magic of D&D without that cloud hovering over their heads in the future.
Did Arcadum do anything untoward to any of them or was it just the general anxiety of it all that make the sessions so difficult for them?
@@chowellith The worst things were gaslighting then into thinking the Mistwalker fight was their fault for not being good enough (which he later lied about to the community who also thought it was unreasonable - the fight was so bad it made Nyanners cry) and inviting sperglords from /vt/ of all places directly to Nyan's Discord (they hate her...). She also felt very uncomfortable about him seeming to push her to be into the lieutenant character he wrote for her backstory during fanart sessions, and thought that he was upset about how much they were into the Tomoe fanart (he totally was, as anyone following the art in Discord could tell by how much of it he ignored under the bullshit premise of not being safe for stream - when he consistently showed far more lewd art of other characters).
I believe there's more but that's what I recall from being there. There was one point that she was venting to everyone that I actually stepped away because I got so angry about it all. I've always said Nyanners is an OG and seeing the way he denigrated her made me livid.
@@kevinb5417 I actually realized that Nyan's was too quiet for the big roll she was given, since I don't know her I just thought "maybe she is shy or nervous" but knowing that she was uncomfortable is kind of ugh... Also I thought that Arcadum writing the backstory was a group decision, damn... The sad thing is that I thought of the dude as a role model as a DM, reading this kind of thing is just disappointing.
@@willianfrancisco9703 As far as being a role model as a DM goes, I would personally say that one of his biggest failings is that he always seemed like he has this big epic story planned and the players MUST play along.
That is a big no-no and a common cause for players losing interest.
You have to be okay with your players ignoring story hooks or going off in a completely different direction.
A good DM will modify and adapt his content to use it in the context of what the players are doing, rather than try to railroad them.
Arcadum in general also always came across as a "my way or the highway" kind of guy, which is a big turnoff to me personally.
@@LethalShadow I didn't know that, the campaign that I reference most of the time when thinking about him is Steel and Silence, I remember that the players from that game were just doing random or dumb things most of the time, it was similar in broken bonds, I haven't followed him during that much time so you may have more insight than me on this topic.
"I just thought this is how DnD is"
Yikes on trikes...I use DnD to help my players WITH their stress, not give it to them.
If your DM berates you for expressing concerns about the way they are running the game, that is 100% your cue to walk away from that game.
No matter how you slice it, either that DM is not good, or you are not a good fit for their game.
In my opinion, a good DM will always try to compromise and accommodate their players to make sure they are having fun.
Unless a player is a complete shithead, which is obviously not the case here.
Fucking THIS! I’m a forever DM who has to constantly rehabilitate players from other shitty DMs. It infuriates me when I see a shit DM ruin such a fun game. If you have a DM that isn’t making the game a fun experience switch that sucker out like a Pokémon.
Does anyone have a clip of that?
Exactly correct
Yeah, even when a player came complaining to me about an assassin he used suggestion on "give me the dagger" (it was a dagger that had leeched an archdevil's power) just throwing a different dagger at him as the effect of that spell, despite me recognizing this was more an issue of him not being used to flat-out losing due to poor narrative choices I understood that his complaints about railroading were far deeper rooted. But he reached out to me politely, we chatted and now they are approaching a new area that will be a bit of a sandbox.
Thing is, as a DM you are far more akin to a game designer than anything, and one of the most harrowing things you will come to understand is that despite communication being key, you need to do far more than that. You need to disect your players' statements and figure out what they are rooted in. If it were up to some players-many of the newbies especially-they would like to have it easy. It's the literal dark souls difficulty discussion. But if your players think it's too hard, what do you do? How do you make it easier? Throw less monsters at them? Throw more loot? Let them rest more often? What? And they might answer you, but their perspective of the game is not as broad as yours. Some sections should not be easy. Some should. Sometimes they just ignored your signposting.
Basically I just wasted a good few minutes of our lives bitching that DMing is hard and isn't even just about properly communicating with your players (a challenge in itself since some players are allergic to feedback, especially giving it).
The thing is. When Soda, surefour and moon did theirs with aracdum. He basically accommodated to soda so much because he wanted to randomly kill homeless and arcadum kept bringing in homeless people to kill in their campaign. It seems like if your not on MoonMoon or Sodas level of popularity. He doesn't care
As a GM, the thought that my players would be scarred to play my RP, would break my fucking heart because that's literally the last thing I want them to feel. We are there for fun, I couldn't imagine anyone feeling uncomfortable to ask me anything.
The fact you care that much is really great. It says a lot.
Agreed. I've never been able to keep a full campaign going for a variety of reasons, so I've settled for one-offs that are different every time.
But every time I finish one out, I just hope that my players enjoyed themselves and fear that it was bad.
Agreed. Especially considering they were new players. My number one concern when DMing new players is to make sure they don't feel intimidated or confused by the rules, and that they ask me for help whenever they're lost. Its so important to be considerate when introducing people to the hobby.
I remember being the newbie, confused by all the numbers and the many races and classes. I had the good fortune of being introduced to the game by a close friend in high school who DMed me and a group of other friends who were all new, so we went at our own pace. It was the best way to learn about D&D. I wish everyone could have that experience.
I just don't know what possessed Jeremy to do such awful things. He had everything a guy can ask for, and he soiled it.
Who the fuck is Jeremy?
That's just the thing. In his mind, he was the victim. It was ok to just use these "friendships" for self gratification because he was owed it. Messed up duded.
@@SirWhiskeyCoke That’s his name
The sad thing is that he didn't do something on the spur of the moment to ruin what he made, this shit was always a part of it and who he was, that he made anything good is sadly in spite of who he was. Or rather, the worst part is that if he hadn't been called out on it he would still be doing this to people.
@@ghostshrimp5006 It's an inside joke
As a DM myself, hearing the players confess to feeling too anxious to enjoy the game is heartbreaking. Having a hobby become tainted by one of THOSE DMs is truly sad. I hope you have fun with your next campaign as the game can really bring out some fun character moments when you’re having a blast. I’m sure the art community will follow you into your next campaign with your next characters.
I was actually excited for the girls to be a main campaign because it would bring a different atmosphere as opposed to the divine wind group. Everything started off fine and slow. Tutorial fight was literally a few rounds of cinematics and nothing else.
Then episode 5 happened and I got so confused. This was their first legitimate fight as first time d&d players. No tutorial skeletons or snarky bandits but goddamn boss with unique rage mechanics that had ruthless and deadly? Like. What? I could see that as a campaign or season finishing boss but not their first enemy. It curb stomped them hard and absolutely terrified the girls which was blatantly obvious with how many skipped or wasted turns because no one understood what was going on or that they weren’t doing much to it.
I, as a viewer got stressed out of my mind for the girls and Arcadum was just a terrible DM during that fight too. Trying to make the girls ask the questions they didn’t know to ask and only hinting at stuff. Not actual helping them like a professional dungeon master. They hadn’t even fought basic enemies and you’re going in expecting them to understand the concept of a boss fight. It felt like the girls were off after Ep 5 but I didn’t know it was that bad
That boss fight wasn't suited for them at all and the rage bar made it harder because it gave the creature far more damage and they were like levels 3 or 4? (not sure) but that is not balanced at all. I have being DMing for 3 years in 5e and I have to say that creature wasn't built for a tutorial boss, a young dragon is a tutorial boss but not a creature that deals so much damage and has a rage bar that makes the creature deal more damage and because of that rage bar, the players can easily think that not hitting it will solve the problem but noooooo. The creature was built to punish and stress players out and it could've ended when the creature sinking into the icy lake but nope.... It came back out and killed one PC and downed and knock alot of them unconcious and some multiple times.
Its normal attacks hit harder, it had basicaly double attacks as a standart, everytime they hit or even miss it would gain rage that means it gets FLAT +2 damage per rage (that means +20 damage per hit at 10 rage, with a group at lvl proto 3) and it got extra attacks per 2 rage gained. This was absolutly silly. They had massive luck that they beat it at all.
@@TheBall12 they were very lucky and also I just remembered that "any attack towards it" also increases the rage bar. They were lucky but that is very stressful to new players cause only at the middle of the fight they found out that cold damage minuses the rage bar and they only had 1 caster with 1 ice spell.
@@DrawPG does not matter. Its to risky to use. If it misses the enemy got a rage stack instead of losing one. You can not use this in any type of strategie when ONE stack more can make the diffrence between just barly surviving or death.
But in the end even this dident matter since the only one who had a chance of even surviving 3 stacks was river.
And she dodged like a champ, if she dident it would have looked like after she died from the start of the fight.
@@TheBall12 I agree, it's not just risky the creature was a TPK monster, a fully armed lvl 3 party wiper
If anyone's curious dr k, the gamer psychologist, had an interview with arcadum a while back where he talks about his rough childhood and some problems he has and perfectionism. Watching it with hindsight is pretty weird but still interesting because it kinda feels like dr k already saw some of the problems ahead of others. Obviously just having a shitty start in life is not an excuse to be shitty as an adult but it's useful to know at least that these actions weren't completely out of the blue.
I saw that several months ago as an armchair psychology enthusiast. Arcadum had a bad childhood, which i came to believe meant he would have an interesting, grounded, and empathetic approach to dm'ing. It turns out that that wasn't true, sadly, and really highlights the societal failures we have at raising the next generation.
@BucketListMod true
The fact Arcadum refused to let Veibae pick a subclass for Nia, and forced her into a hard fight gimped, speaks volumes to the failure that is arcadum. You all deserved far better then this emotional leech, and as a community I feel we owe you an apology for making you feel forced to interacting with this terrible man.
Players should never be forced to pigeon-hole their character by a DM. It speaks volumes of how controlling and toxic Arcadum was that he prevented his players from making the character they want.
I Dm for my friends, and one of them comes up with these interesting character concepts. Always lolis, but my role is always you can look young, but be legal age, but we get fun work arounds for it. From lichdom at a young age, to a curse from a witch coven to always find the right middle ground to make everything work. Currently she is playing a loli-harpy that uses wind magic to make storms and such and is having a blast. She wants her next one to be a crafting drider.
Arcadum pretty much picked everything for them, For real this is so dumb as a DM.
@@Chas-OTE it's worse. He was like "im going to make a special subclass for you" and then just never did. At level 3 2 sessions/almost a month later, and veibae still didn't have her subclass for her druid, but was still being forced to play as if she had.
@@Crouza Which is absolutely stupid.
She wanted to be a "neckomancer", basically a cat summoning, catgirl druid. Shepard Druids are already made, give you hella bonuses on summons and horde monsters and ALL I'd have done is basically said "here you go" and reskin all of her spells as cat themed. No homebrew, just reskin the thematics of casting. Two minute fix.
Honestly, as someone who put so much time into this world and characters fanart, I was very devastated by "loosing all of it", and seeing everyone praising the art community so much warmed my heart and re-motivated me.
To summarize if you're out of the loop:
This dude, Jeremy, was their Dungeon Master in DnD. He is a professional DM, and was going to DM a game with VShoujo. It came out before they really began that Jeremy had groomed, gaslit, and manipulated 20 women into sexual favors and social isolation. He also was incredibly mean to every vshojo member, and invited 4chan members to Nyanners personal discord.
WHAT. Im out of the loop on Vshojo stuff for like a week due to work and i come back to this?
Yesh, Nyan has bad history with 4chan and that must have been a bad experience for her.
And there are receipts, screenshots and recordings. The victims have put the, safer for work, links on their twitters. They have shared some of the less safe for LIFE evidence with friends and loved ones and lets just say when individuals responded, it was not pleasant.
He also abused employees, yelling, gaslighting, screwing over pay, etc.
He was an abusive partner to his sig other.
Victims have come forward that he abused when he was 20, so yeah he hasn't changed. (One was 16 btw)
He lied about work he did on his campaign.
He railroaded players against their will into things they didn't feel comfortable and then if questioned he manipulated/gaslit/browbeat them into submission.
He lied to one of his players, about said players OWN WIFE, saying she was part of a conspiracy to get him. "Get. My. Wife's. Name. Out. Of. Your. Mouth."
Can you call an adult "groomed"? Makes no sense .
@@Moody.Smiruai Look up "adult grooming". Its a thing. Its not necessarily criminal, but its still a very shitty thing to do.
For a poop goblin, nyanners often surprises me with how deep and thoughtful she can be...
I get you but we still got to remember that the people we watch are exaggerated characters and that they are also real people with real lives and valid emotions.
Wish she were this way more often. I've been trying to give her streams a chance
Hindsight is 20/20, but the fact that the group was getting drunk out of anxiety before sessions as time went on imo really speaks to how badly ep 5 went for all of them. I called this shit out from the beginning but damn does it feel cathartic to know that yeah, having the option of a boss character as a party’s 2nd combat ISN’T A GOOD IDEA.
I hope Jeremy gets the help he needs but at the same time fuck that shit, not only did he decide to be a creep but he also decided to be unfair to new players, who tf does that
Yeah, I feel kind of guilty that part of me is feeling an "I told you so" sort of fucked up triumph, but honestly there were a bunch of red flags as soon as that had the bs ep 2 fight and you heard all the girls talking about it. They had clearly been convinced by someone that it was all their fault, probably taking advantage of their inexperience so that they would realize how bs it was.
Glad they're out of it now. a proper, healthy dnd campaign would be cool but tbh I really don't want any of them to feel rushed about it right now.
Agreed. That mistwalker wasn’t inherently hard as an Arcadum enemy or boss but the fact they literally didn’t have ANY experience in combat and he just drops that on them out of nowhere was a terrible idea on his part. Ya it’s the main story but you don’t drop that Ep 5, first combat on brand new players who don’t know anything about their characters or the game in general
Not the whole group.
The Arcadum community, especially on reddit was so pro everything he did they bent over backwards to shit on any criticism, even on that fight.
Snuffy told us about the gist of it all. Damn overall it sucks. Glad to listen to Snuffy's rant. It is understandable of their anger and being upset. Wish the ladies a brighter DnD future somewhere else.
Hearing her appreciate all the artists as one of the best parts really informs her feelings so much. These girls got me back into drawing, and even kind of forced me away from the majority of my gaming addiction: Drawing fanart, and seeing it be awed over at the end of a long Friday was so very fulfilling, and I will absolutely continue doing so if/when they decide to continue playing DnD. It really shows how much she and the other girls appreciate people. It has been fun, and I hope to draw everyone a few more times at the very least!
It's so depressing to see. Like with broken bonds he had done things like set up a tutorial mission, talked about various classes, and just seemed like he was trying to give them a good time. The goblin fight they had he did offer help and such and they all spoke positively about their experiences. Maybe that may have possibly turned as bad as episode 5 for the girls, but it turned out fine in the end luckily, and no one seemed to have a problem with it.
I thought that was who he was. I thought that, even when he was upset at chat, it was for typical stuff like backseating or something. I heard stuff like how he was such a great DM that some felt like they spoiled other DMs for them with how good he was. And his friends seemed to sing praises for him I thought.
So hearing that he didn't do any of that and just threw them in blind, and mistreated them honestly is a shock to me. I never got to see Otikata's myself (I planned to someday) and it hurts to hear it became such a shitty experience for the girls.
Nyanners deserved better.
They deserved better.
I hope this new DM gives them better.
Some people have been talking about despite everything he was a good DM. I disagree. A good DM understands the expectations, needs and the like of their players. They should not be creating an environment so stress inducing that people need to get drunk to cope. He was a shit DM.
It didn't seem fair with the boss fight he threw at them cause he knew that most of them had no experience with dnd and he had to throw a stupidly hard fight at them, I thought he was good at telling the story but that's about it.
He was a good storyteller. He couldn’t teach new players how to play DnD and didn’t know how to accommodate as a DM, but the man was competent when it came to telling a story and making things sound important given enough time.
That being said, fuck him.
I only started watching Arcadum during this campaign and, honestly, I agree. From the start, he threw a shit ton of info at them while streaming, and they had to go throw a bunch of homebrew races (Snuffy said the only way to get info on them was to ask Arcadum) while everyone was watching. Then he threw them into the world and basically went "now... roleplay!" and then threw a a Dark Souls boss at them and went "I'm not gonna help you here, do it on your own". Like, that's no way to manage a group of newcomers.
He didn't take the time to practice with them, to show them how combat goes (he literally even said "don't worry about it") before a high stakes fight, he didn't support them at all after the session, etc. He didn't give a shit about the players and didn't adapt to their way of playing... He just wanted to tell his story and do his thing. It's a shame this was the first experience the girls had with the game.
@@BATTIS94 dark souls is a good comparison. In that game the first few battles are all about teaching you the mechanics. For a game that is notoriously difficult it still gives you “easy” fights to let you learn the systems. What he did is bad encounter design,
Hard agree.
I personally noticed how bad of a DM he was by watching Callous Row.
In Callous Row, he killed off multiple player characters through complete BS the players could do nothing about, just for "effect".
It's basically the equivalent of "Rocks fall, everybody dies", which is the lowest level of DM'ing.
Arcadum liked to brag about how fair and thorough the DM'ing was, but actions speak louder than words.
For Callous Row, they were having several players leave who were not going to play the next Season because of crap like that.
So, people who say he was a good DM... have probably never played with a good DM. (To be fair, there are LOTS of bad DMs out there. One could even say that DM'ing in general probably appeals to people with similar issues as Arcadum. Power and control, and all that.)
VR D&D is fun. Someone she tell Nyanners and the others about it.
What is VR D&D?
@@Selvunwindful playing dnd in a vr world with a headset and stuff, kinda like vrchat roleplaying but dnd orientated
Callous Row is an example of VRchat dnd
@@afihoque9994 Ah, thank you! That does sound fun
@@dusky186 Ah nice! I hadn’t watched any of callous row, I’ll have to duck in for just enough to get the idea.
"I needed to get drunk before it to do D&D." This explains A LOT about her playstyle. To me it seemed like Nyanners wasn't fully aware of things happening sometimes. I mean it's not to say she was shitfaced on D&D or anything, but like you can just tell she wasn't fully into it. It felt like she wasn't super interested at time but now this explains everything.
I wish I paid more attention to that detail. I feel like my understanding of alcohol is very limited, not strict Christian parents limited, but still too ignorant to casually know the meaning to it.
and isn't that the girls fault? they accepted a difficult campaing that they where multiple times warned that was going to be difficult and that they needed to do homework to understand the fights and they just wheren't prepared. Multiple people said that they wheren't ready, but the white knights came and said "they are more intelligent and hard working than people think, they are able to do this". And this is the result.
@@paulogaspar8295 Literally no. He wouldn't let them make choices. He gave them custom classes and then didn't give them abilities so they literally couldn't do anything. He roleplayed their actions for them multiple times without even letting them make a choice. He was shitty to them on purpose. He purposely wouldn't give them information behind the scenes that their character should be fully aware of in his own custom world he made and then blamed them for not knowing things he made up and refused to tell them. It's 100% his fault.
@@chrismanuel9768 This the shade that was thrown during the session 0 of world of IO where Nyanners was like, "You mean we get to have fun instead of be actors on a stage?" Where it felt like they weren't really in control of stuff. Also Vei being like, "Yea it's nice to have a DM who is actually helping off screen. It's great to not have to go off stream to learn basic stuff."
It really hurts to know that the funny sentence "80+ sessions of this" that was meant to show excitement turned into such a nightmare so fast.
I'm glad it is already over. And also that the girls want to give it another try so soon. They deserve to have fun and I hope they'll get it this time.
I guess everyone Arcadum asked to play later down the line like Nux definitely is saying no now
I'm frankly glad this all came out. I got a super weird vibe from him and had trouble watching him DM. With this context it's clear how he reminded me of an abusive friendship I had in high school, and an abusive friend group I'm distancing myself from right now. Getting drunk just to go see friends is fucked up, and should've been a bigger red flag to me too.
I knew it wasn't the RPGs because I watched a couple hours of ttrpgs today, so it couldn't be that
"talk about it really briefly"
>video is 17 mins
well damn
at least its not 9 hours long
The only person that should feel sorta anxious should be the dm hoping too make a great game for thier players. It should be a chill fun place and if your players want too be heros let's goooooo let them be legends. Also a dm should help and shouldn't treat their players like crap. I saw that fight against that damn monkey absolute dick move too new players where they had no idea about the world or rules or even their character capabilities. To then say it's their fault the river died. He had one stupid monkey help your new players about their combat capabilities.
He probably was always anxious.
My sympathy with all the Vtubers Arcadum abused. I’m furious with him for the damage he has done to D&D’s reputation… because of him so many have quit / will not start playing this wonderful game and that’s not fair to them, they’re missing incredibly amazing experiences.
Tbh i've only quit playing because i had nobody to play with, but that's irrelevant now
@@KhryausOHowl I think its scarry because he's the one that introduced them to dnd. First impressions mean a lot to people, and it's in our nature.
damn I haven't seen that Kenpachi fried chicken in a long time
@@Emerild Hey! Glad I could instill some nostalgia in you :)
Edit: thought it was fitting for the return of the anime
@youtube doesn't like my username :( this doesn’t happen to every group, Arcadum was that 1% you’ll get struck by lightning in a storm, don’t let 1 bad apple ruin the chance for so much fun, camaraderie, and memories.
15:00 - This. This is the enthusiasm I was talking about. This is the thing that I wish all my players were like. I would kill to have players this excited to play, and especially after the shitshow they went through, I would cry literal tears if they were still that excited.
Don't worry, you'll find more excited players roaming around internet 👍
I had a friend, I had constant anxiety trying to talk to him. Every conversation was like a landmine, watching your words, dodging this and that, and slowly but surely a feeling of weight, a pressure, some kind of social pressure creped onto me. Once I cut contact, I thought it's going to be much worse. But I felt free. So free in a long time. I realized, I had no need for this in my life.
Once you are out, it's much easier to take a breath and be free. DnD was meant for fun.
I miss DND ... Or in general this group of girls.
Verum or arcadums world is dead. Burned to ashes... the memories of the past campaigns now feel like a curse knowing what Jeremy did. I won't subtract the fact that arcadum did a good job on entertaining me a viewer. But the acts of Jeremy are something I can't stand.
I will take his world and characters for my own campaign (with creative liberties tossed in). Behold my party, the kingdom of Verum, a desolate place, riddled with decay and corruption. Once a beautiful land, ripe with optimism and boundless opportunity...but then squandered by the mad Titan Arcadum, when he attacked...do not let your kingdom meet the same fate...
...it's a work in progress.
Don't say that name, to respectful...
It's a*****m not Jeremy.
Pseudonyms, Lowercase, and mostly Censored!
I agree
@@optimusslime6795 Ive come to terms with it and the only way I could cope is to remove arcadum from Jeremy ... It's sad really but its the only solace I could find because I've been following the guy since 2020. Violet arc and all.
Arcadum is a dungeon master who loves nothing more than DND while Jeremy is the face behind the mask. Arcadum is the mask while Jeremy is the person. I hate what Jeremy has done but I can't forget about the journey I had with arcadum...
Arcadum is not Jeremy. Is what I say to myself to at least calm the anger,disappointment ,rage,sadness,and many other emotions Im not used to.
I just wanted to watch a group of people have fun in this setting, roleplaying to thier hearts content....
I have a skewed way of looking at things... (─.─||）
@@rukitorin1998 Arcadum is like the Vtuber persona, fake. He is a great story teller, however he abused his power to twist the story the way he wants, so I can't say his DMing was the best of the best since it felt forced. Due to the fact that most people were unaware of his nature until recently shows how fake his persona is. While I don't think his past content is corrupted and ruined, it is still great and there are great moments, the community is awesome, just he isn't.
I didn't think he was nothing more than an average DM. And we are finding out he wasn't that good at world building either.
Was anyone else off put by how railroady the sessions were? I get that it's a main campaign story, but it really felt like Arcadum was kinda making a lot of inconsiderate decisions.
Which is especially weird because he did the exact opposite during Death and Debts and other campaigns. Hell, Death and Debts was basically a dating sim for a few episodes.
It felt that way with most of the newer campaigns honestly. It was around the start of the tyre campaigns when things started to feel railroady for me.
He actually takes advantages of new players inexperience to be railroady since new player don't know much and what's normal in dnd
Yeah, I really got that feeling when Snuffy made Tomoe drink that Forbidden Mtn Dew. She kinda blew up his plans for the character, and I could tell he was a bit agitated.
One of the most important lessons I remember as a DM is 'Everyone in your group is a player, even the gamemaster'. It's helped me remember that even if I control the setting, I'm just another member of the party and I should give others the same respect as if they were in my place, so they return it with kindness
I'm disappointed that Arcadum, and many other horrors that plague the D&D community, forget that.
Arcadum and his 15+ Twitter Allegations... Jesus Frickin' Christ.
When you think about it theres a lot of people that worked for him with similar issues that players had with him...overall a shitty person. Also his ex-wife or ex-fiancee really got the short end of the stick if she was with him for years.
To be honest I was a little concerned with how much some of the girls were drinking before the game and seemed like a bad sign if you need to basically be drunk every week just to get through it, but I never thought it was because of something this bad.
The 2 most depressing things coming from arcadums drama... 1.. the crap people had to deal with that outer people didn't know, and how hard it hurt a lot of very good people. And 2 the part of how many people were effected even If they weren't a part of it.. like even just the fans Got devastated at this man.. but also how sad people are they couldn't go through with the campaings... some of these people may view this as dnd in general.. and arcadum is not dnd... he's just some power hungry loser... 99% of the reason I loved otikata was because of the interaction of the girls...
It's incredibly dumb all of this behind-the-scene things she and snuffy said. Like, as a DM, you have to know your players' the level knowledge, and account how they will react and feel about things. They had 1 combat before literally a monster that whooped their asses appeared, and that's fine with you're dealing with people that know about the game, and are confident about things, but they're obviously not.
Any game should have a curve of learning, and because of that, when I saw the kind of destruction the mistwalker did to the party I got mad. Like, I do not think myself too highly when it comes to DMing (or anything, really), but I do take a huge care in how to introduce new people to sessions, either new in age or experience, and how to get them used to the rules and stuff. This guy, that was considered a godly tier DM, made such a basic mistake all DMs learn early in their career in rpg that I just lost all admiration I was building up looking all he created.
Tl;Dr: arcadum doesn't look like he's that insanily good of a DM, and even before the twitlonger thing, he didn't look like a good person to be around
Edit: corrections of minor mistakes
Maybe he is truly a good DM for as you said the one in the know how, etc. Then again is not every person the best to deal with the newbies your average DM will surely fucked up is the experience of many (personally never played the game but I enjoy the stories and recreation of it in many channels here) leaving for a bad experience and maybe retaking it later.
I definitely think he made that fight way to hard and that should have been done later cause he knew what their levels of experience were but he just disregarded it.
He was able to tell an amazing story but that doesn't excuse him from being a manipulative douche to everyone.
@@SC_Silver_99 Any good DM knows to fudge the numbers a bit if his players are getting steamrolled.
Unless they specifically signed up for playing that kind of hardcore grim game.
@@SC_Silver_99 exactly. The problem that many people fail to see is that they were too inexperienced for that. They go like "oooh, you can't win all the times, you have to learn that not all goes to your way" but they forget it was their first experience in an rpg. It's like giving a car to a kid and expect them to make it go drifting. Making a fight a tad more difficult but later, like lvl 4 or 5, would be such a better way of tackling things
Arcadum even had good introductions for other groups, like the Tutorial Skeletons, but just didn't for this Vtuber group.
It had the best introduction of the characters with the festival, but no introduction of combat.
Needing alcohol to do anything is a big problem.
As a player and DM this is horrifying to listen to. I hope everyone involved is ok. And i hope they can have fun with DnD in the future.
An upcoming session should always be something to look forward to.
(Just finished the video and now i'm crying)
You put it beautifully, i love your take and your description of what dnd is and should be.
Arcadum was great in-game at toeing the line between an over-pushy, over-powering, and over-expecting DM and a laid back, patient, freedom-loving DM. He was almost "too good" at pacing and getting people to RP...he really controlled the storylines of his campaigns in a big way and in retrospect perhaps that's something we can at least feel more critical about now of all that life's work which was Verum...we can say Verum had it's high points and shined in ways and became more than just a DnD world but a community amongst so many Twitch personalities and viewers...but it was also flawed in big ways and that we ultimately will find EVEN BETTER DnD worlds down the road...
We have memories now, we just have to accept that verum is over but DnD will never die! Remember, DnD is best with FRIENDS!!!!!
Play at home!! Make your own campaigns. DnD is about overcoming...DnD is something built together, anyone one person is extremely flawed on there own but together we make great DnD.
Right, he seemed like he was so focused on making a big epic story that will be remembered that he forgot DnD can have the shittiest nothing story and still be more fun, that's what makes it special.
I still can't accept the reality of it even though i know it's true. I look up to him, I considered Arcadum an actual legend, like a real Legend. I first found him from OTV playing broken bonds being dm'ed by him and i've been fucking obsessed with his content and his world ever since. Seeing him articulate, control, create these worlds and connected stories that are ever present and continuous is really mind blowing to me. He introduced me to DND and how amazing of a game it is. I've binged his streamed session vods ever since and the lore drops are wild. He became my first content creator that i scheduled to watch. Now being told that he's grooming 10 women out of nowhere is still registering in my mind. I feel so bad for the victims... Opressing it till now must've been rlly hard. Now i don't know what to do because i hope he doesn't quit dm'ing but continue it sometime in the future, is it weird? I still respect his work but i lost respect in him as a human.
Edit: i think i just wanted the dnd sessions to continue without arcadum. But tjat is obviously not possible...
I feel almost the same that you feel, I have seen people talking shit about his work when in my opinion it was good work, you don't get to surpass critical roll being shitty or that's just what I think. It's so disappointing to realize that the dude that I saw as an inspiration was just a disgusting human, at first I ignored the drama but once I realized Momo was one of the affected I had to read it... I don't know if you watched the campaign Steel and silence, but in that one the girls expended half of the play time crying because they were happy or something but now that I know that he was manipulating Momo one of the players as the same time that campaign was happening is heartbreaking.
Well, if it's any consolidation, arcadum is not dnd. He was a good storyteller but he isn't the only one. He was the one that led me down the dnd rabbit hole but I'm not gonna be jumping out of it just because he is no longer there. I even started watching other DMs which has really lightened the blow. Currently catching up with Brettultimas' world of Io since it has a lot of arcadum's old players and will probably have a test campaign with the vtuber girls soon
You probably already know about them but consider looking into Critical Role's Matthew Mercer as a different source of inspiration for DND.
A better DM, a by all accounts a better person.
10 people that we know of
It makes me really bothered that Nyan and the others had to get slamburgered just to be able to stand playing a game that's supposed to be fun with people that are supposed to be friends.
This whole situatuon is just awful and should have never happened. Arcadum's name will forever carry a taste of disappointment.
first time I ever heard of you or any of this, as a DM I would be grateful for a group like yours....glad you're not giving up on the game...by the way Icewind Dale: Rime of the Frostmaiden features a fishing minigame!
Hearing all this shit... kinda makes me wanna bust out those shiny new OSR book I bought last year and set up a stream. World building and shit is good, but having a comfy time in the theatre of the mind is essential. Old school is WAAAAAY less rule intensive.
OSR is still very puzzle-focused. It's not the logistical nightmare that is 5e streaming, but when your players want to goof around in your world, you kinda want a system is something that encourages that.
@@tahunuva4254 Wait, I usually run OSR as the goofier ruleset, and I thought everyone else did the same...
@@softreyna I mean it's certainly conducive to that, given its usually higher lethality rate, but nah people generally run it more in a Gygaxian way from what I've read online.
At first i thought the girls were nervous to play at all because of how intense of a sitation they were in in otikatas curse, how there was a being creating fear and spreading it out to the world, not to mention the gimmick of the curse itself, and so on, but holy shit...i never thought it would be as heart breaking as this...i hope the girls can truely enjoy DnD for what it is..
This Is Depressing
A Whole Community
Gone
Not gone, just . . . scattered.
The discord community stayed
It's just so nuts how just one bad person's bad actions can so deeply affect so many others who had nothing involved with it, even those who weren't directly affected still "have to" explain their side in order to avoid being grouped with the offender and having that tarnish their own reputations
Even as a viewer i feel betrayed. Arcadum WAS sort of a role model to me. Doing what you love and spreading that love with whoever, no matter their background. He seemed like a really genuine and down to earth guy and hearing all those confessions shook me to my core.
I know the betrayal i feel is not even close to what the players/staff feel but Arcadum helped me feel better when i'm depressed and it just feels like a fucking lie now. I am thankful however that i've learned about all these new streamers like the V-tubers and Kelli Siren for example through Verum which i don't think i would have found otherwise.
Pick your role models better. Just because someone likes the same thing you do, does not mean they are a good person, or even worthy of your consideration. Learn this well, or be plagued by a lifetime of abusers seeking you out to take you for everything you have, or constantly being disappointed by those you have unrealistic expectation of.
I'm so happy to hear they are going to try to play again and are going to still try to do stuff with their characters
Folks, the tell she gives at 4:48 says it all. ANY TIME you feel like you need a mood-altering substance to enjoy an activity means that YOU DO NOT NEED THAT ACTIVITY.
I had to speed this up 2x to get the ball rolling, but Arcadum REALLY messed up.
thats why i play my own campaign in the critically acclaimed mmorpg second life
I'm upset with Brett, he still hasn't told me if Tiny Skagzag can be used as fishing bait.
Isn't he the one who's doing the Goblins campaign that has Tomato in it?
@@hallowvenixya9215 Yes, Skagzag is Crendor's character in that one. Tomato plays The Tumultuous Klernt, the party's instrument collection, which is being held up by one very arthritic bard. Sadly, Klernt cannot lick his own eye.
If nyan ever sees this... your opinions on the situation are perfect. This is what the people who were fans of arcadum are dealing with. The conflict of how much love the people had for this world and the people in it.. and for it to be shattered was heartbreaking.. but looking at the reddit and people's responses.. the fan base is not letting one shifty person ruin the game and the wonders of dnd...
It sounds like they need a dungeon masters like Brendon from dimension 20, college humor
I was really excited to watch the game every week but that monster in the cave really bummed me out. That thing was incredibly powerful, it's not a monster you throw at a group of first timers on their first major fight. After that session I dropped off because it kind of became clear that arcadum wasn't there to do a big group story session with a bunch of fun characters in a world he made, he was there to push his brand. If the girls can find a DM like Johnny Chiodini who understands how important it is for everyone to be having fun in a flexible and entertining sort of way then there would be something special there. He acted like every overserious gamertype dm I've ever seen where he has the players fulfill the requirments for his novel or whatever. Those games aren't fun to play in. That's my thoughts on the non-stuff related stuff I didn't like about arcadum. The stuff related stuff speaks for itself I think, fuck that guy.
I couldn't even watch the video 'til the end from the amount of anger I was feeling, I only today learned of this whole situation and it disgusts me, a D&D session is supposed to be a chill time, where you can take your mind from reality and decompress and just have a generally fun time playing with your felllow party members. Even though I already appreciated my DMs, learning of all this has just made me appreciate them and their work SO much more, and it made me realize just how good they are. I can only hope that everyone that was affected by Arcadum's wrongdoings has been able to move past them and that they get to experience a REAL D&D campaign one day.
Thank you for clipping these, I'm a slut for the drama.
I'm not afraid to admit it, I'm no coward.
As a Game Master myself I am ashamed of Arcadum and hope this hasn't killed interest in D&D and other tabletop like Vampires The Masquerade, Shadowrun, etc. Getting the right group is always the most difficult part of Roleplay, but once you do find those good people who want the same thing as you hold on tight! Players and GMs make up D&D, not just the GM. GMs make the world, but players give it life!
Nyanners: "I don't want to be berated by the DM because of the way the boss fight went"
Me: Wait what? That's not how the game is played, if a DM is upset that the boss fight was too easy or too hard, then they shouldn't blame the players for that. Because when one of my friends DM'd our group, he was new but when we cheezed our fight against Strahd, he came up with another Boss fight, that was significantly harder, so that he could have the fight he wanted, and gave the players a challenge as well. And that I great DMing
Anyone who hurts nyanners deserves to be used as a flesh light by Asmodeus.
Creative and d&d related. I like it 👍
11:35 - Thank you fro love to artists!
15:28 "Bret Opesialmostknockedoverabottleonmydeskimsorry"
Long last name
So I've been in a DnD campaign with a DM that made me pretty anxious and also made me feel like I had to drink to get through sessions (for different reasons ofc), and it was only after realising that nearly all of us felt that way that we stepped back from interacting with that DM as much, as (to be diplomatic) they're a complex, challenging person to be around all the time.
I can safely say that not playing at all is better than being in a bad game, or one that you were once excited for but now you're only playing out of a feeling of obligation. If its not fun, its generally ok to pull out even if it stiffs the DM a little (although a streamer depending on their group sticking around for a year and a half is a whole different thing)
But I also need to point out that a really good game will feel special; or even magical, like freaking lightning in a bottle, and so much of that is down how the DM engages with and treats the players in and out of game no matter what type of TTRPG you play.
What I'm hearing here about the experience sounds almost like things were way different here than they were in Death & Debts (Melody, Ironmouse, Silvervale, Zentreya, Bunny_gif, and Momo). Just reading the chat messages people could say they it was obvious something shitty was going on, but to my memory I never remember picking up on any signs of anything bad in Death & Debts... and everyone seemed to be genuinely having a great time. I never watched Nyanners' group.
So I have to ask, for anyone who's seen all of the Vshojo-involved campaigns, was there a serious shift in the atmosphere or anything you guys could detect between this group and Death & Debts, or am I just too blind to what everyone else seems to be picking up on and it was always there?
Also, this sounds absolutely wack that it made her require booze and the group to have to have a practical support group before the games. I mean, good lord. What the hell was HAPPENING?
I watched the violet arc from the beginning to episode 9 of Soul of Tyre. I could tell that Arcadum would do things like fudging rolls occasionally, but that's not egregious and it can create some fantastic moments. I noticed the blatant pity baiting, but imposter syndrome is a hell of a thing, so I thought nothing of it. I didn't notice anything off about the players' behaviors, so I think the changes in the atmosphere must have happened somewhere during the middle or end of the Tyre campaigns. That would be around when Steel and Silence was ongoing, and, from comments others have made, Momo especially became more and more anxious while playing. I don't think your blind; Arcadum just managed to keep the bullshit hidden until the violet arc was nearly over.
My heart breaks as a dm . as a nerd and as a man. I want to say sorry for anybody hurt like this.
Didn't know this was going on, I didn't really trust the dnd to begin with. Thanks for the clip and thanks for Nyanners for talking about it. As many people have said a lot of us are dnd players or DMs so this hurts a lot more then I would of thought. I hope the girls play again together, even if they do some off stream games together.
I feel you. Other streamers i watch all say Arcadum is a somewhat hardcore DM. He's not really chill with his games. I would suggest maybe talking to Brettultimus. He's more chill with his dm skills and just wants to have fun.
Arcadum had one job and he somehow managed to pissed off two of the biggest communities that exists in media right now.
"That was the worst Critcrab story yet... I should relax with weird cat-face clown person."
...
"Damnit! Well, that sucks for all involved."
We can't let this happen again.
This is the epitome of "Don't worry [CC] you can take a break. We will watch no mater what you make, you are allowed to stop." We need to make sure that they really never need to be in that position again. This is our responsibility as viewers.
But I look forward to seeing more of this Bret guy.
Arcadum has been an inspiration to me as a GM before but hearing all of this... He did always seem a little bit "shifty" to me, but I wouldn't have expected this. Then again, I was only able to see his public presentation, and it is hard to properly assess someone you can't even see most of the time. I usually am pretty good at sensing peoples' characters.
Anyway, I am still going to continue practicing the ideals he preached outwardly at my own table, but they were what I believed in anyway. He just gave words to them.
I’ve played several campaigns that were serious but we had so much fun because we got to play our way
As a prolific DM and player of D&D, I always feel terrible whenever we hear about the horror stories.
My problem with Arcadum's style of DM-ing (at least, from some of the ones I've seen) is that rather than facilitating the flow of the story so that the players can RP and enjoy the session, he tries to insert himself through the NPCs. Almost to the point that those NPCs are grandstanding and becoming some sort of lead character for that scenario.
While some campaign might benefit from that narrative, seeing it come up from almost all scenarios and on different groups seems sus. It's like wanting to have the cake and eat it too.
hillarious thing thats been said to him:"write a fucking book", which arguably is a good descision, if he wasnt such a shit person...
I can relate to Nyanners. Calling out and confronting the wrongdoings is so hard when you are the self-doubting and anxious type.
Could you imagine Critical Role doing a one shot with vtubers???
maybe the real DnD was the friends we made along the way
Hearing Nyanner's enthusiasm to play D&D at the end was very bittersweet for me. On one hand, I'm sad that Arcadum turned out to be a whole slew of r/rpghorrorstories and all the damage he's caused to both people and tabletop communities. But on the other, hearing her excitement and passion to keep playing was very uplifting, and I'd love to DM for someone with that kind of attitude. I doubt she'd ever take up an offer from a stranger like me, but it seems like she and others will be working with Brett from World of Io, which I've heard nothing but good things about. I hope she'll be able to experience the true magic only games like D&D can offer, and I look forward to seeing what the future has in store.
Anyone know what song shes playing in the background? It sounds very dragon quest ish
That really sucks, mad respect to you and yours Nyanner's.. I hope you all are alright. That stuff, what little I have heard, sounds sleazy and uncomfortable as hell.
Please don't give up on D&D, not everyone who runs is horrible.
When I first watched a game that Vshojo and a couple of their friends played with Arcadum, I had a feeling that there was something amiss with him, didn't know what it was, but then this all happened, shame that it went down like that, your players should always be having fun as much as possible.
The only part about it all, that is even remotely funny, is the fact that he thinks he's gonna chill for a bit and then come back like this all never happened.
Really glad this is all out in the open so that every person affected can move on and have fun again.
when your dressed up character enters cut-scene in a videogame
I'd love to see a great DM like Brennan Lee Mulligan or Johnny Chiodini run a campaign with the girls. There are so many amazing people that can replace that guy and make it a fun and engaging experience for players and the audience
From what I know about Brett's DMing, he basically lets the players do whatever they want in the story (just look at Goblins of IO). Tomato gaming trusts him and from what I've seen of Brett, he's a chill nice dude.
I knew he was trouble when I watched session zero when he pulled out an excel sheet and said, "I NEED you to commit to this schedule."
Man that episode five mist walker boss fight, hearing from the players has only solidified what a shit encounter that was. And this was when people were still sucking off Arcadum to the twelfth degree, and yet the vast majority were still in agreement how poorly he ran that. The entire encounter was high stress, all the players were level 2.5 for a lv 3 fight, he refused to offer help despite this being their first fight (Yes, not boss fight, ACTUAL FIRST FIGHT) making it seem like he was doing them a favor by going hard as he was being so nice and kind before this, mechanics were convoluted and they didn't have the proper context for how to navigate it.
I support all VShojo and all the victims involved 100%
I'm so sorry for all this happening
not all us neckbeards are like this
If I ever even thought about treating anyone even close to like he did my grandparents would jump out of their graves and snatch me baldhead
and it hurts my heart so much
that the weekly D&D sessions were the highlight of my week when I would have a bad week at work
only to find out the horrible verbal/sexual crap he was in some cases forcing/blackmailing all of you to do for him
it fills me with anger and pain...
and I feel so opposite to his messed up beliefs of how a REAL MAN treats a female friend that I would castrate myself before ever letting my sex drive or ego ever endanger the friendship of anyone he became friends including all the V-Tubers I only can pray and hope no one ever has to go through this again or have their open personality betrayed in this way again ...
I love you all and Please forgive us for not knowing while you all went through that (T - T)
It’s weird how abuse is like a fish swimming in water. You often don’t know how bad it was until you get out of it, or even that it was happening. That was my childhood. I didn’t realize how messed up I was until I got out of it. Then I could see.
I used to play with a gm that made me feel the same way. It took me a long time to realize that, as much as I really wanted to play, it wasn't right.
Dms are supposed to make the party feel immersed not confused, dms can say no to players but if you want them to enjoy and want to return, to look forward to another session, you have to let them make their own decisions.
This is such a shame, to me d&d is a way to wind down and have fun with cool people, I really couldn’t imagine it being a stressful situation and I feel so sorry for who experienced it that way. Hope they find someone to play comfortably with in the future
YOOOO BRETT HAS FISHING?! I wanted that in my dnd too!!!