The industry plant thing is slightly overblown. People dislike her purely for that reason, and that's silly to me. It is partly true. How they marketed her was a straight rags to riches story with no industry connections. That's false. Billie and her brother did have connections, but it was still an organic process. It wasn't overnight. She was a small artrist for a while. Her success was not manufactured. Her marketing success maybe. But she herself is successful because she has a unique artistic identity who isn't copying everyone else; at the right time and place. Her and her brother still make music in their house. They still make music for themselves and not for some imposing studio heads. Their management was just smart enough to know that letting them do their own thing works. Even if you don't like her music, one listen to her album makes it obvious that she is unlike any other artist right now. Point being, even if she was a full on industry plant, that wouldn't matter if her music was cookie cutter trash.
This is just like Taylor Swift and her complaining how she would've live better as a man even though she grew up with a fairly wealthy family and her dad had multiple connections
I've never questioned myself why does Billie wear baggy clothes....cuz thats not a point. Like come on....lets admire her voice, her talent, her personality, but not the way she looks...
I Agree, she stands against body shaming and the sexualization of women, but she is a bit of a hypocrite. Ex: she said the guys with vans have small dicks and she judges a guy based on his looks. Which got me like WTF and caused me to change my look on her
Yes exactly. When I was a teenager I never wore tight clothes or girly clothes. I was conservation tomboy and wore baggy clothes because I didn’t feel comfortable showing skin because people stare and make me feel exposed. When I turned 16 I had more confidence and worn less baggy clothes, but still didn’t sexualize myself because I was young. I didn’t want older men staring at me. Then when I turned 18 I did show more skin, wore tank tops but never spaghetti straps. I didn’t want to sexualize myself and still now because I want people to like me for my personality. But now I’m married so and much older so even if I show cleavage I’m kind of like “this is my body, and I’m loved by me and my husband, I don’t need others to make me feel like shit”
the first song of billies i listened to on repeat was ocean eyes, and that was ages before she became popular. i didnt even realize it was the same artist til wayyy later
Moon Moon same honestly it was crazy when I found out the girl singing bad guy was the same chick I used to listen to long ago she didn’t look or sound the same
1:14 Her and her brother literally made music in their bedroom....no big studio equipment, just a laptop and a mic...she still lives with her parents...so it's safe to say she's FAR from an "industry plant"...she's just _pure talent_ 4:27 and it's rare nowadays. **DEBUNKED** 😂🤣
She talked about that in the Zhang radio show. She said her parents aren't celebrities or rich people in order for her to be an "industry plant". She said there's no seed at all for there to be a plant in the first place. She also said it doesn't make sense because the people are the ones who make someone successful. Someone can be famous and be an "industry plant", but it's *impossible* to be successful and not work hard and be actually good. Otherwise all her fans would be paid actors and her music would be utter crap for the general listeners in the world. lmfao
lizard king I get that they were actors and stuff but....I have yet to meet one person who knew them. Her parents were not famous or rich, they sleep to this day in their living room because they don’t have their own room lol
@@atomicultos That's still Marketing, not an "industry plant". There are many headhunters out there who want to invest in talent and potential. That's different and common practice. If she's going to be actually successful, the people have to like and support her work. Being advertised, regardless of quality, doesn't mean the artist is going to be successful or loved by the people who like that type of music. It's inevitable that the music HAS to be good, even if it's for a certain audience. No music company spends money if they don't see potential in what they're buying. It can fail, but they did see the potential. If they didn't, it doesn't matter who knows who, crappy music is crappy music. It would still be very short-lived either way. The potential HAS to be there.
You know how many artists crashed and burned after "getting in" from connections but went nowhere or not far. Connections don't mean shyt if you don't have the talent to back it up...all the auto-tuning/promotion in the world won't help, if people see through the bs.
@@sayusaymee7722 (1) There are plenty of less-talented artists that succeed & super-talented artists that fail. (2) The definition of "industry plant" is an artist that promotes themselves as a self or home grown artist, but actually has major label backing. Interscope Records qualifies as a major record label. And your own original comment shows she markets herself as a home grown artist.
I remember the 1st time I saw Billie. I thought "oh, that's a unique style, not my cup of tea but she doing her" And I moved on and enjoyed the show she was on "Hot Ones". Nice girl, don't care for her music. Oh, well.
Billie ellish caters to the first world problems era of self victimization and being suicidal without actually being suicidal over own self inflicted issues but when u say ur suicidal instantly everyone is supposed to sympathise with u and ur problems supercedes other people's problems.all her songs are depressing yet she's so happy in interviews and other videos of her. I like Steve greene take on the fact that ur confidence is ur own and no one can take that away from u. people will always have opinions, body shaming will always exist. but u have to still stay true to who u are, maybe not entirely cos we still have to "live in a society" . but trust that I believe no matter what, if ur ballsy enough, someone will still support u, whether in the comments or secretly in their head. one comment can be hating, another can be supporting. I think maybe Billie ellish has it way over her head like she got nice boobs in a tank top lol. it's a compliment ..*cough* get over herself..
@@porcupinesauce3872 i don't like billie ellish and think she's extremely overrated for her own good because anyone could whisper words into an instrumental and call it a song, i don't even know if i spelled her name correctly but it's bullshit of you judge her mental state of her songs being depressing but her interviews seem happy. just because someone is depressed or going through a rough time, doesn't mean they'll visibly look or seem sad all the time. most people hide their sadness and pain because they don't want to expose it to the word and be vulnerable. sometimes the seemingly most happiest of people are actually the saddest, for example robbin williams took his own life, same as shinee's jonghyun. both seemed like such amazing guys who were influential, had such fulfilling and successful careers, always smiled but internally they were struggling. that's not for you or anyone else to judge or take that away from them because it's no one else's business.
11:27 okay but Rod Stewart, Clint Eastwood, Jack Nicholson, Mick Jagger, etc each have like 4+ bb mamas...Eastwood has 6! So let's not act like it's just black men/entertainers. 😂
I love how Steve added more informed and logical views opening the minds of the rest of the crew a bit more. Joe did it too but adding a white guy who jokes around about the same white jokes everyone else makes is so cool because he really just loves comedy
6:13 Awww poor Tiff. 🥺 Yeah JK comment section can be very toxic, comment sections in general tbh. But it's so true that *_hurt people, hurt. people._* they probably have a shyt ton of their own problems that they can't change or overwhelmed in their day-to-day lives, so their way of "release" is to make someone feel just as bad as them; *_"misery loves company"_* --that's why I rarely response to "residential jk trolls" because that's what they want--A REACTION. They don't know me/you from a can of paint but will go awf like they do 😂 but at the end of the day, I truly feel sorry for them.
I'm not a diehard fan of Billie and I'm a grown-ass adult, and the most obvious thing is that it's impossible for Billie Eilish to be an "industry plant". Of course good marketing can come into play, which is what any artist wants in their career, but like Billie said before, her parents aren't rich nor famous for there to be a "seed" for this "plant". And even if they were, it's impossible to be successful without actually being good. Someone can have temporary fame as an "industry plant", which has happened before even here on youtube, but to be actually *successful* isn't easy. People HAVE to like your work and support it.
i watched an interview of her a few days ago and found out their parents don’t even have their own room, they literally sleep in the living room. They were never “rich” as people say they always were
Her mother is Maggie Baird. She's an actress, song writer, screen writer. She's played roles in Bones, and X-files. She's played in a bunch of other shit. Obviously her mom isn't super mega famous but she has industry knowledge that alot of people don't have. So it isn't a complete stretch the maybe Billi had some special help on her side.
@@goofaccount It doesn't matter, though. Even if her mother knew the CEO of all music or whatever, the music industry would still have to take Billie and actually plant her, which would mean Billie would just be a puppet. Her music was made by her and her brother in a bedroom, and her mother isn't famous or rich enough to have anyone owe her any favors. Her mother could've talked to someone who's willing to promote her daughter's music, which ANYONE can do if they have good music to present to a possible investor/agency, but the music would still have to be good. That's *not* what an "industry plant" is, that's just trying to make it in the industry.
@@Pumpkin0_0 Billie's mother was Melissa McCarthy's first improv coach/teacher. When I first heard that I knew she was a plant. Lots of other chicks with wayyy more talent that don't get anywhere near the same label strong arm. And maybe for the sake of YOUR argument lets use the term “industry family member”. You can’t deny that she at least had a small foot in the door that alot of people don’t have. Also just because she technically writing her own music doesn’t mean she isn’t a plant. It’s about advertisement, playing at large venues, and even negotiating your contract. Billie defiantly had help.
i think billie got famous because she was at a sleepover and yes she was 14, so they made a music video as a joke and she didn't expect it to blow. i dont know, thats what i have heard.
And that's alot because she made it clear that she wears baggy clothes to hide her body coz she doesn't wanna be sexualised so just showing that much means alot!
Shes not unique in this aspect her age her gender her position in society her body type is irrelevant. People of all walks of life judge everything and anyone constantly people in a general sense can't get passed skin color so If your "famous" or not people are gonna be people we still have a lot of improvement to make as a race.
@@Aluke5460 there's no way to prove that though. She sang a song that her brother wrote and it got popular and she got fans off of that. How is that an industry plant?
Tahir bringing up lil wayne as the goat is another reason why he should be on the shore more. Wayne's hook on Duffle Bag Boy is arguably better than eminem's entire discography of music
''People judge everything, people can't wait to judge.'' ''There's people watching this right now in the comment section who can't wait to tear us down'' Don't try to pull the higher than thee shit when this video literally started off judging her before the article was even read. That's what this entire show is..
he wasn't saying thats a bad thing, he was saying that no one can take away Billie's confidence, just like they cant take away theirs. Steve is the biggest supporter of free speech so i'm pretty sure he doesn't mind people calling them out for their hypocrisy. I wouldn't say they are putting themselves above others though
@@lawrance7340 Hypocrisy in this context (rules for thee not for me) is textbook putting yourself above others. Steve made that comment in reaction to Nicki calling them haters so he was definitely saying it was a bad thing. I think it's fine what they're doing, it's entertaining, but don't try to condemn the thing you're doing yourself in the same breath.
I think a form of self respect is just no putting yourself in a situation that would bring you down such as seeing things that upset you or reading em , even such as “stalking” your ex etc.
Lol when somebody points out one of my insecurities it doesn’t even bother me because I’m pointing them out to myself all the time 🤣🤣🤣. People’s opinions of you literally don’t matter 🤣🤣🤣 at all
While I’m not the biggest fan of all her music I love the fact that Billie managed to create her whole image around her music and style to the point that even after knowing about and seeing her huge boobs. I can not think of her sexually. I can’t even bring the idea of her and boobs of any size together because she managed to completely separate her identity as a person and artist from her body and sexualization. When you think Cardi B, Jennifer Lopez, and Shakira, the first thing to come to peoples minds is their body, but the first thing to pop into peoples heads at the first mention of Billie Eilish is almost always one of her songs. For me, when you say Billie Eilish my brain instantly jumps to “Bad guy”, but I think Shakira and it’s immediately followed by an image of her Latin hips. Billie has managed to do something admirable in a society where success is decided by how good you look and built a career around her skills and passion.
The song "Bad Guy" is so stupid lol I don't get why its so popular, it just sounds goofy. Especially compared to her other music. Its almost like she wanted to see if she can make a dumb song popular as a challenge lol
Jessica Humans are going to make judgements, that is how the world works. No one will ever be able to change that, so the best response to that is to become a strong person
1:55 --don't know if that was a slight on Billie not being "talented" but whatever. Regarding the industry plant conspiracy, it's clear lots of y'all don't know jack about Billie lol. No matter how much connections you got, if you don't have talent or anything else important to offer, you don't get far with people and your fanbase. Her parents may have known people but they weren't HUGE figures in the industry nor were they famous either. They didn't have a lot of money and Billie's rise to fame is definitely helped by marketing but that's not "industry plant," that's them doing the work and a company also knowing who to invest to. In this case, seems like they've invested right.
I think it’s a cool idea to want to be conservative with apparel. Nobody has any rights to my body, so if I want to cover up, then that is my business. Even as a guy, nobody needs to know how big my biceps/triceps are or my chest to waist ratio. I’m not going to walk around in a baggy turtleneck though, because I live in a more tropical environment, so people may be able to tell from how thick and veiny my neck is, but that is all they are going to get from me.
Alantic record had Snow tha Product shelved because she wouldn't show her body in her music videos among other things. I'm proud of someone like that, they're able to stand their ground be who they are.
"people rip us apart in the comments!" yeah man and you guys rip people apart from random news articles. Welcome to the internet *sings the circle of life*
@Mister Smithers 1. I cant imagine a a point in my life where knowing Pirate Baird O'Connell's story will ever be useful to me or anyone tbh. 2. Its nothing for a record label to manufacture a bullshit backstory for their artisits
@Mister Smithers Again you keep imploring me to look into Pirate's background as an artist and again i must tell you that i dont give a fuck about her past nor will i ever she dosen't strike me as an intresting person i should be concerned with but what does concern me is how you refuse to even consider the idea of her being a plant it makes you seem like a brain washed child whos been force fed their beliefs
@Mister Smithers actually it isnt implorations are generally time sensitive requests typically but not always made out of despiration and seeing as how you asked me to research into something before i responded id say that's a bit time sensitive but hey at least you tried 🤷♂️
Honestly don't know 🤷🏾♀️ but from how she dresses we never really knew what her body looked like. Maybe removing that extra layer made her feel confident. It was her choice and way of expressing it🤷🏾♀️
@C00kii0 Yeah, I remember some video of her saying she dresses the way she does specifically because she doesn’t want people sexualizing her body. Soooo..now she’s taking off her shirt to “protest bodyshaming?” I don’t see anything wrong with showing your body. But it’s like.. quit trying to act “DeEP” and “InSpiRing” and act like you’re trying to “protest” something when really you just wanna show off your body lmao. 🤷🏻♀️
I love people that genuinely believed that Billie is an industry plant because of her success lmao. Or as soon as an artist becomes famous, they're suddenly overrated.
not every "hater" is an incel. making blanket statements about people who don't like you just to make yourself feel better is not the healthiest response. are some of them incels? probably, but not all. I'm sure she's said some dumb shit and been called out before.
Actually a lot of her haters were judging her and casey's relationship. Calling her out on the fact that she married him and hasn't 'GIVEN HIM A BABY YET' like thats all she is good for. On top of them hating on how she interacts with people, dissecting everything she did. So happy she is more confident and doesn't give af what people say about her now!
@@lawrance7340 people don't like how controlling she is of Casey and complaining about him. although I think it's a lot more nuanced then that and she's not just some "dominant controlling person over her husband " but from the comments they have come to the conclusion the dynamic in the relationship is casey pleasing tiff. my parents are just like that Asian mom western Dad that is like a "slave" to her or she gets angry if he doesn't do what she wants. casey takes care of Issac and treats him like his own. One thing Casey always wanted is a child of his own as well. don't just dismiss a very important aspect of what makes or break a relationship.
I'm honestly so glad Steve became a part of the jk fam because he added a more emotional aspect for the boys side and you can see everyone growing
True, but Steve's also an Asian thing now 🤣
@@seeavi8426 truth
Steve saying he likes Lana Del Rey, I knew I could trust this man
u cant trust lana she steals music ofc u like her
David Crescencio u sure?
It's not lana it's anal
David Crescencio the proof?
The industry plant thing is slightly overblown. People dislike her purely for that reason, and that's silly to me. It is partly true. How they marketed her was a straight rags to riches story with no industry connections. That's false. Billie and her brother did have connections, but it was still an organic process. It wasn't overnight. She was a small artrist for a while. Her success was not manufactured. Her marketing success maybe. But she herself is successful because she has a unique artistic identity who isn't copying everyone else; at the right time and place. Her and her brother still make music in their house. They still make music for themselves and not for some imposing studio heads. Their management was just smart enough to know that letting them do their own thing works. Even if you don't like her music, one listen to her album makes it obvious that she is unlike any other artist right now. Point being, even if she was a full on industry plant, that wouldn't matter if her music was cookie cutter trash.
Billie's mother was Melissa McCarthy's first improv coach/teacher. When I heard that, I knew Billie was highly connected.
She's a shill nevertheless
This is just like Taylor Swift and her complaining how she would've live better as a man even though she grew up with a fairly wealthy family and her dad had multiple connections
people act like having connections mean you dont work hard, like what. you use what you got
@@_Maxten lmao maybe people are bitter other people are a little luckier
gina: there's a basketball player currently that has like 8 different baby mommas
tahir: that's ANY basketball player
The real genius is her brother. The dude behind her music.
Tbh
7:18
G-Dragon: “Am I a joke to you!?”
HAHAHAHA LOLOL
It’s not a surprise hearing about Arianna Grande being rich already after the donut licking story
that was like 5 years ago get over it
I posted this like a year ago get over it.
I've never questioned myself why does Billie wear baggy clothes....cuz thats not a point. Like come on....lets admire her voice, her talent, her personality, but not the way she looks...
Why not both?
I thought it was a marketing ploy like Sia and Gaga did. Still pretty cool tho, she successfully made herself stand up imo.
I Agree, she stands against body shaming and the sexualization of women, but she is a bit of a hypocrite. Ex: she said the guys with vans have small dicks and she judges a guy based on his looks. Which got me like WTF and caused me to change my look on her
Steve makes Gina look like a child
I feel like Tahir and Gina would be the ultimate comedy duo
Patricia Kaufusi or boze
Yes exactly. When I was a teenager I never wore tight clothes or girly clothes. I was conservation tomboy and wore baggy clothes because I didn’t feel comfortable showing skin because people stare and make me feel exposed. When I turned 16 I had more confidence and worn less baggy clothes, but still didn’t sexualize myself because I was young. I didn’t want older men staring at me. Then when I turned 18 I did show more skin, wore tank tops but never spaghetti straps. I didn’t want to sexualize myself and still now because I want people to like me for my personality. But now I’m married so and much older so even if I show cleavage I’m kind of like “this is my body, and I’m loved by me and my husband, I don’t need others to make me feel like shit”
the first song of billies i listened to on repeat was ocean eyes, and that was ages before she became popular. i didnt even realize it was the same artist til wayyy later
I knew she was gonna blow up the moment i heard that song, albeit not to this extent. Her voice was unreal
Moon Moon same honestly it was crazy when I found out the girl singing bad guy was the same chick I used to listen to long ago she didn’t look or sound the same
Moon Moon mine was six feet under,, she became superrrr famous after that
Same here
1:14 Her and her brother literally made music in their bedroom....no big studio equipment, just a laptop and a mic...she still lives with her parents...so it's safe to say she's FAR from an "industry plant"...she's just _pure talent_ 4:27 and it's rare nowadays. **DEBUNKED** 😂🤣
She talked about that in the Zhang radio show. She said her parents aren't celebrities or rich people in order for her to be an "industry plant". She said there's no seed at all for there to be a plant in the first place. She also said it doesn't make sense because the people are the ones who make someone successful. Someone can be famous and be an "industry plant", but it's *impossible* to be successful and not work hard and be actually good. Otherwise all her fans would be paid actors and her music would be utter crap for the general listeners in the world. lmfao
lizard king I get that they were actors and stuff but....I have yet to meet one person who knew them. Her parents were not famous or rich, they sleep to this day in their living room because they don’t have their own room lol
@@atomicultos That's still Marketing, not an "industry plant". There are many headhunters out there who want to invest in talent and potential. That's different and common practice. If she's going to be actually successful, the people have to like and support her work. Being advertised, regardless of quality, doesn't mean the artist is going to be successful or loved by the people who like that type of music. It's inevitable that the music HAS to be good, even if it's for a certain audience. No music company spends money if they don't see potential in what they're buying. It can fail, but they did see the potential. If they didn't, it doesn't matter who knows who, crappy music is crappy music. It would still be very short-lived either way. The potential HAS to be there.
You know how many artists crashed and burned after "getting in" from connections but went nowhere or not far. Connections don't mean shyt if you don't have the talent to back it up...all the auto-tuning/promotion in the world won't help, if people see through the bs.
@@sayusaymee7722 (1) There are plenty of less-talented artists that succeed & super-talented artists that fail. (2) The definition of "industry plant" is an artist that promotes themselves as a self or home grown artist, but actually has major label backing. Interscope Records qualifies as a major record label. And your own original comment shows she markets herself as a home grown artist.
4:33 boze almost literally repeating what tiff said verbatim
Gina: ahhh now i get it
The whole time I just couldn't stop thinking how much I loved that Rammstein shirt.
I was digging one chicks white shirt until she put that purple jacket on. ☹
I remember the 1st time I saw Billie.
I thought
"oh, that's a unique style, not my cup of tea but she doing her"
And I moved on and enjoyed the show she was on "Hot Ones".
Nice girl, don't care for her music.
Oh, well.
See you're a reasonable person.
@MrRomesXIII to you... Loool
@@salmaabdullahgb no shit
Billie ellish caters to the first world problems era of self victimization and being suicidal without actually being suicidal over own self inflicted issues but when u say ur suicidal instantly everyone is supposed to sympathise with u and ur problems supercedes other people's problems.all her songs are depressing yet she's so happy in interviews and other videos of her. I like Steve greene take on the fact that ur confidence is ur own and no one can take that away from u. people will always have opinions, body shaming will always exist. but u have to still stay true to who u are, maybe not entirely cos we still have to "live in a society" . but trust that I believe no matter what, if ur ballsy enough, someone will still support u, whether in the comments or secretly in their head. one comment can be hating, another can be supporting. I think maybe Billie ellish has it way over her head like she got nice boobs in a tank top lol. it's a compliment ..*cough* get over herself..
@@porcupinesauce3872 i don't like billie ellish and think she's extremely overrated for her own good because anyone could whisper words into an instrumental and call it a song, i don't even know if i spelled her name correctly but it's bullshit of you judge her mental state of her songs being depressing but her interviews seem happy. just because someone is depressed or going through a rough time, doesn't mean they'll visibly look or seem sad all the time. most people hide their sadness and pain because they don't want to expose it to the word and be vulnerable. sometimes the seemingly most happiest of people are actually the saddest, for example robbin williams took his own life, same as shinee's jonghyun. both seemed like such amazing guys who were influential, had such fulfilling and successful careers, always smiled but internally they were struggling. that's not for you or anyone else to judge or take that away from them because it's no one else's business.
Tiff! That is great you’re working on yourself! Sometimes critical comments are valid.
Rich kids not wanting any of it - and always get degrees at elite schools and its never because they are smart enough.
11:27 okay but Rod Stewart, Clint Eastwood, Jack Nicholson, Mick Jagger, etc each have like 4+ bb mamas...Eastwood has 6! So let's not act like it's just black men/entertainers. 😂
they never said that.
I said "act like"....it was about what was being implied. You have many ignorant people who believe it just rappers or athletes (the black men only).
@@sayusaymee7722 it be like that tho
Don't think anyone was "acting like" that lol
@@CallmeEspionage People love being victimized.
I love how Steve added more informed and logical views opening the minds of the rest of the crew a bit more. Joe did it too but adding a white guy who jokes around about the same white jokes everyone else makes is so cool because he really just loves comedy
And I mean nothing by this at all, but I kept laughing because in my head I kept hearing that song ah ah ah ah ah ah take your shirt off
6:13 Awww poor Tiff. 🥺 Yeah JK comment section can be very toxic, comment sections in general tbh. But it's so true that *_hurt people, hurt. people._* they probably have a shyt ton of their own problems that they can't change or overwhelmed in their day-to-day lives, so their way of "release" is to make someone feel just as bad as them; *_"misery loves company"_* --that's why I rarely response to "residential jk trolls" because that's what they want--A REACTION. They don't know me/you from a can of paint but will go awf like they do 😂 but at the end of the day, I truly feel sorry for them.
Can't wait for femist Tiff explain her not so feminist implants. I'm certainly intrigued by her mental gymnastics on that
^ *Exhibit A.* 😂😂😂😂
Mic Mare Thank you for the hot take, Mic Mare.
She got implants?? Why?
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[Fact: Only weak-minded people are offended by words.]
William Eyelash.
I love everyone on Jk News! Thank you for everyone on Jk News for all the hard work y’all have put in to make these videos! ❤️🥰❤️🥰❤️
I'm not a diehard fan of Billie and I'm a grown-ass adult, and the most obvious thing is that it's impossible for Billie Eilish to be an "industry plant". Of course good marketing can come into play, which is what any artist wants in their career, but like Billie said before, her parents aren't rich nor famous for there to be a "seed" for this "plant". And even if they were, it's impossible to be successful without actually being good. Someone can have temporary fame as an "industry plant", which has happened before even here on youtube, but to be actually *successful* isn't easy. People HAVE to like your work and support it.
i watched an interview of her a few days ago and found out their parents don’t even have their own room, they literally sleep in the living room. They were never “rich” as people say they always were
I see you bro 👀👍
Her mother is Maggie Baird. She's an actress, song writer, screen writer. She's played roles in Bones, and X-files. She's played in a bunch of other shit. Obviously her mom isn't super mega famous but she has industry knowledge that alot of people don't have. So it isn't a complete stretch the maybe Billi had some special help on her side.
@@goofaccount It doesn't matter, though. Even if her mother knew the CEO of all music or whatever, the music industry would still have to take Billie and actually plant her, which would mean Billie would just be a puppet. Her music was made by her and her brother in a bedroom, and her mother isn't famous or rich enough to have anyone owe her any favors. Her mother could've talked to someone who's willing to promote her daughter's music, which ANYONE can do if they have good music to present to a possible investor/agency, but the music would still have to be good. That's *not* what an "industry plant" is, that's just trying to make it in the industry.
@@Pumpkin0_0 Billie's mother was Melissa McCarthy's first improv coach/teacher. When I first heard that I knew she was a plant. Lots of other chicks with wayyy more talent that don't get anywhere near the same label strong arm. And maybe for the sake of YOUR argument lets use the term “industry family member”. You can’t deny that she at least had a small foot in the door that alot of people don’t have. Also just because she technically writing her own music doesn’t mean she isn’t a plant. It’s about advertisement, playing at large venues, and even negotiating your contract. Billie defiantly had help.
The messed up thing is the day she turned 18 she was ph #1 search
i think billie got famous because she was at a sleepover and yes she was 14, so they made a music video as a joke and she didn't expect it to blow. i dont know, thats what i have heard.
All she did was show her shoulders tf lol 😂
x213ERx She lowkey scared now to show anything lol.
Someone in this section literally commented about her boobs lmfao let's not act like people don't sexualize a tank top
And that's alot because she made it clear that she wears baggy clothes to hide her body coz she doesn't wanna be sexualised so just showing that much means alot!
@@gegasmeef7850 says who? Lol oh yeah all the people are supporting her for showing off her shoulders haha you're funny.
@@x213ERxyou clearly CLEARLY did not get the message she was portraying! It wasn't just about her shoulders you dumbass!
Shes not unique in this aspect her age her gender her position in society her body type is irrelevant. People of all walks of life judge everything and anyone constantly people in a general sense can't get passed skin color so If your "famous" or not people are gonna be people we still have a lot of improvement to make as a race.
Tahir got a 50% to 50% teeth to gum ratio.
B.E.Z lmaooooooooooooooo
LMFAOOO
B.E.Z so?
Tiff isnt sitting on a chair and it's been bothering me cause I cant figure it out.i know Shes not standing lol
BelanceM it’s a yoga ball
I dont think billy is made. Especially since she had a leg on the door because of her parents connections and her brother's producing connections
Boze needs to be part of the regular cast. BLOW THIS UP!!!!!!!!
Billy Ellis Island lololol
1, not a big fan of Bilie but i respect her candor. 2, i hope that Rammstein shirt is not for fashion!
Since it’s Boze, I can almost guarantee it’s legit. She used to me a metal girl.
Tahir still out here laughin like an auntie
Forgive them for they know not what they do
billie didnt really start out a plant...but yeah eventually got pushed by industry
Yeah I mean she definitely was a plant
@@Aluke5460 there's no way to prove that though. She sang a song that her brother wrote and it got popular and she got fans off of that. How is that an industry plant?
Vector12 she’s a plant
Joe still out of state? And why do we keep saying goodbye to julia? ... See I care
Joe back but is quarantining himself cause of his trips. Julia left JKN for good cause want to do something different
Deja vu with julia wanting different "things"
Tahir bringing up lil wayne as the goat is another reason why he should be on the shore more. Wayne's hook on Duffle Bag Boy is arguably better than eminem's entire discography of music
superlatives
A whole reach at the end.
I was drinking at the beginning of the vid and Boze's "oh shit" nearly killed me.
Tiffany is sooo cute :( sometimes I just wanna protect her like a child. Bless your soul
They complain about not wanting to be objectified but then take off shirts and go topless? Weird ass "woke" logic but hey I'm not complaining
B exactly lol
that is female logic for you. lol
@Nder Tor they were jealous of julia. lol. first time an asian girl had bigger boobs than a hispanic
@Nder Tor exactly....that is why they are jealous. lol
I don’t understand them, if you don’t like jk, keep watching to they can get their ad revenue
I love you guys! Boze, I would never treat you like that solid 9 homeless guy that passed away.
''People judge everything, people can't wait to judge.''
''There's people watching this right now in the comment section who can't wait to tear us down''
Don't try to pull the higher than thee shit when this video literally started off judging her before the article was even read. That's what this entire show is..
he wasn't saying thats a bad thing, he was saying that no one can take away Billie's confidence, just like they cant take away theirs. Steve is the biggest supporter of free speech so i'm pretty sure he doesn't mind people calling them out for their hypocrisy. I wouldn't say they are putting themselves above others though
@@lawrance7340 Hypocrisy in this context (rules for thee not for me) is textbook putting yourself above others. Steve made that comment in reaction to Nicki calling them haters so he was definitely saying it was a bad thing. I think it's fine what they're doing, it's entertaining, but don't try to condemn the thing you're doing yourself in the same breath.
Tahir’s gums got his teeth surrounded 😂😂😂
I think a form of self respect is just no putting yourself in a situation that would bring you down such as seeing things that upset you or reading em , even such as “stalking” your ex etc.
Can I get a Tiff is pretty chain
She’s spreading a message about body shame & all people are doing is screaming/cheering. i don’t think they even heard the message.
@@n-mmii9520 Im sorry I wasnt talking about the crew. I was saying about Billie during the concert.
Lol when somebody points out one of my insecurities it doesn’t even bother me because I’m pointing them out to myself all the time 🤣🤣🤣. People’s opinions of you literally don’t matter 🤣🤣🤣 at all
How tf is this news? People take their shirts off every day, sometimes multiple times a day. 🤦🏽♂️
Because she never has taken her shirt off in public view before
Who is trying to hurt the cute little boze
She really said who’s Wayne 😭😭
While I’m not the biggest fan of all her music I love the fact that Billie managed to create her whole image around her music and style to the point that even after knowing about and seeing her huge boobs. I can not think of her sexually. I can’t even bring the idea of her and boobs of any size together because she managed to completely separate her identity as a person and artist from her body and sexualization. When you think Cardi B, Jennifer Lopez, and Shakira, the first thing to come to peoples minds is their body, but the first thing to pop into peoples heads at the first mention of Billie Eilish is almost always one of her songs. For me, when you say Billie Eilish my brain instantly jumps to “Bad guy”, but I think Shakira and it’s immediately followed by an image of her Latin hips.
Billie has managed to do something admirable in a society where success is decided by how good you look and built a career around her skills and passion.
Tahir AND Boze? You're spoiling us!
0:07 Tiff does it again, always putting the blame on someone else
So
@@Gabbs_0.x so Casey should run
piglink10 Stuuuupid.
piglink10 its a joke
The song "Bad Guy" is so stupid lol I don't get why its so popular, it just sounds goofy. Especially compared to her other music. Its almost like she wanted to see if she can make a dumb song popular as a challenge lol
remember when Anderson Cooper used to host that show "THE MOLE"? I miss that show.
The way Tiff pronounced it is how my Mexican family pronounces it too so maybe she’s just paisa
I agree with Boze I always said that about "industry plants".
"Applauding" what should be that standard aka what people should do normally is a problem in society, in which causes more problems. imo
Boze is wearing a Rammstein shirt?! Wow she's extra awesome for that
Yup! She said she has a thing for Till Lindemann 😂
@Nder Tor i dont think rammstein is a white supremacist band lol
Funny how when billi cover her body not be sexualised everyone supporters her and all that, but Muslim women dress like that but get harassed alright
der vic you literally just proved her point😂
Lolillol Skrskr dw, people love to chat shit online but when it comes to face to face they kiss your shoes😂😂 I said my point and they proved it
Alice Lee literally😭😂
Jasleen with that logic a woman can’t just be modest for personal or religious reasons?
der vic you proved the point that Muslim woman will be harassed or belittled for dressing mostly by making that comment
What was Nikki gonna say about Eddie Murphy???
😑the fact that Billie has talked about WHY she wears baggy clothes and people still do this just pisses me off
Jessica Humans are going to make judgements, that is how the world works. No one will ever be able to change that, so the best response to that is to become a strong person
Lol “ important for our era”
1:55 --don't know if that was a slight on Billie not being "talented" but whatever. Regarding the industry plant conspiracy, it's clear lots of y'all don't know jack about Billie lol. No matter how much connections you got, if you don't have talent or anything else important to offer, you don't get far with people and your fanbase. Her parents may have known people but they weren't HUGE figures in the industry nor were they famous either. They didn't have a lot of money and Billie's rise to fame is definitely helped by marketing but that's not "industry plant," that's them doing the work and a company also knowing who to invest to. In this case, seems like they've invested right.
Adding to favorites
How many people work in this channel?
I mean her body is gorgeous so I'm not sure how this is fighting body shaming. 😂
Omg tiff could do a Ariana grande impression like woah
Boze is gorgeous
Its a sign I’m on RUclips too much when I’m this early....
Relatable
It’s Billie eyelashes 😌💅🏽
Will she remove her bra now for breast cancer awareness? Lmao
i cant say for sure but some of the jk news cast has a bit of racism in them (one of them i know for sure)
Who is the one??
It's not racism it's a type of humor/sarcasm/joking
alter we Tiffs not white tho
@@CoCody_ I am not talking about Steve I know Steve and his humour
Abdi Rahman just say it already
Love y’all
I'm glad you guys try to stay healthy mentally 🥰
I think it’s a cool idea to want to be conservative with apparel. Nobody has any rights to my body, so if I want to cover up, then that is my business. Even as a guy, nobody needs to know how big my biceps/triceps are or my chest to waist ratio. I’m not going to walk around in a baggy turtleneck though, because I live in a more tropical environment, so people may be able to tell from how thick and veiny my neck is, but that is all they are going to get from me.
Yes been waiting for an episode devoted for her! 👏🏽😁
Just wish Geo was also there, because I know she likes her too, but this cast is still awesome
Alantic record had Snow tha Product shelved because she wouldn't show her body in her music videos among other things. I'm proud of someone like that, they're able to stand their ground be who they are.
I need CC vid about industry plants!
"people rip us apart in the comments!" yeah man and you guys rip people apart from random news articles. Welcome to the internet *sings the circle of life*
Ain't that the *TRUTH*
1:39 most plants have great marketing 🤦🏿♂️
@Mister Smithers 1. I cant imagine a a point in my life where knowing Pirate Baird O'Connell's story will ever be useful to me or anyone tbh. 2. Its nothing for a record label to manufacture a bullshit backstory for their artisits
@Mister Smithers Again you keep imploring me to look into Pirate's background as an artist and again i must tell you that i dont give a fuck about her past nor will i ever she dosen't strike me as an intresting person i should be concerned with but what does concern me is how you refuse to even consider the idea of her being a plant it makes you seem like a brain washed child whos been force fed their beliefs
@Mister Smithers actually it isnt implorations are generally time sensitive requests typically but not always made out of despiration and seeing as how you asked me to research into something before i responded id say that's a bit time sensitive but hey at least you tried 🤷♂️
Mister Smithers You are clearly getting mad over someone criticizing an artist you most likely dont even know personally, you are pathetic lol
I like Billie’s music but... how does taking your shirt off protest bodyshaming? 😬🤷🏻♀️
because people talk about her body even without seeing it.
@Makayla cotton Okay and? What is taking your shirt off going to do? Lmao
Honestly don't know 🤷🏾♀️ but from how she dresses we never really knew what her body looked like. Maybe removing that extra layer made her feel confident. It was her choice and way of expressing it🤷🏾♀️
@C00kii0 Yeah, I remember some video of her saying she dresses the way she does specifically because she doesn’t want people sexualizing her body. Soooo..now she’s taking off her shirt to “protest bodyshaming?” I don’t see anything wrong with showing your body. But it’s like.. quit trying to act “DeEP” and “InSpiRing” and act like you’re trying to “protest” something when really you just wanna show off your body lmao. 🤷🏻♀️
Did you not read what she said when she did that?
I agree with Gina about Ariana, peanut butter mouth lol no enunciation 🎤🎤ughuninkbgfyfffgghahhhh 🎤🎤
I love people that genuinely believed that Billie is an industry plant because of her success lmao. Or as soon as an artist becomes famous, they're suddenly overrated.
@Nik3 I'm not saying they don't exist, but some people don't know what hard work means lol.
Most comparable to fuck what what I look like I'm doing me would Missy Elliot
More Booze and Tahir!!!! we love them!!!
I agree so is a powerful word I use it all the time...and people who chatty Patti all the time hav nothn goin on in ur life
'Our confidence can't be taken from us' Someone PLEASE take that challenge and troll them. I love your content but I think this will be funny.
Tiff realized her haters are incels. We stan a confident queen.
not every "hater" is an incel.
making blanket statements about people who don't like you just to make yourself feel better is not the healthiest response.
are some of them incels? probably, but not all. I'm sure she's said some dumb shit and been called out before.
@@infinite-sadness incel found
mcturtle simp located
Actually a lot of her haters were judging her and casey's relationship. Calling her out on the fact that she married him and hasn't 'GIVEN HIM A BABY YET' like thats all she is good for. On top of them hating on how she interacts with people, dissecting everything she did. So happy she is more confident and doesn't give af what people say about her now!
@@lawrance7340 people don't like how controlling she is of Casey and complaining about him. although I think it's a lot more nuanced then that and she's not just some "dominant controlling person over her husband " but from the comments they have come to the conclusion the dynamic in the relationship is casey pleasing tiff. my parents are just like that Asian mom western Dad that is like a "slave" to her or she gets angry if he doesn't do what she wants. casey takes care of Issac and treats him like his own. One thing Casey always wanted is a child of his own as well. don't just dismiss a very important aspect of what makes or break a relationship.
Do you know Snow that product exists?
I love this group
she is in the wrong business
Tiff is soooooooo pretty :)
I don't even know who billie eilish is. I see Tahir and I click
Get out from under that rock bro I don’t listen to her at all but she’s everywhere
Yeah, I'm gonna keep shaming her so she does it more.
Nxt level shit right here.
Billie Eilish: Don’t objectify and sexualize me
Also Billie Eilish: *Sexualizes and objectifies herself*