Still a great pump gun even though it is mostly plastic, ruclips.net/user/postUgkxh4su9YgU1tWmjikirWcKJbjsFLEU62Bc but with care it will last a long time. It would be neat if Crosman would make a commemorative version of this with real wood stock, but of course it would weigh more and cost more, but hey, it would be cool. The included scope is more of a toy, but it does work for backyard plinking. I prefer to use pellets for greater accuracy, but BBs are just as good for plinking. This is not a Red Ryder folks; fully pumped it is 3 times the power of a Red Ryder and can be dangerous if not handled properly. Be safe out there.
The full stock model with the claw mounts is an absolutely beautiful rifle! I recently saw one of those go up for sale here in Canada for over 4,000.00 cdn, and it sold!
I love my Steyr Mannlicher rifle :) They're absolutely stunningly well made, it's hard using other rifles when you've owned one of these, they're just so good!
Many thanks for this video. I own a Luxus model in 6,5x55 that used to be my fathers. The rifle gives me great joy and bring back good memories from when my father was more agile than he is today. 🇩🇰
My favorite All time rifle was the first Weatherby deluxe in 300 Weatherby that was made in West Germany! It had looks and could kick anything on the market for it’s time when Roy ruled the rifle industry! I have owned hundreds of rifles since then being a collector over 60+ years and having many custom rifles built and have owned at least one if not more of all the high end rifles but that first Weatherby made my heart flutter like know other since😳
Hey USOG! I just want you to know that I found this channel not too long ago and has quickly become not only my favorite gun channel ,but my favorite channel period on RUclips. No gimmicky sales pitch or flaming skulls and crossbones. Just a knowledgeable guy with an amazing collection of beautiful firearms. Something I highly appreciate. Please keep these great videos coming and I will definitely look into supporting you on patreon. Keep up the excellent work and I have no doubt you will quickly become one of the bigger gun channels on RUclips.
Hello, long time “watcher” though I don’t believe I have ever commented before. Thoroughly enjoy your videos! You seem to have a soft spot for both Mannlicher and Mauser. I’m not sure if you have ever heard of Fred Wells of Prescott, AZ; most have not. Fred experimented for years with combining the two actions, and his creation was a profound work of art. I met Fred originally 20 or so years ago, then we touched based again short before he passed in 2006. His action used a Mauser receiver/bolt and a Mannlicher rotary mag. If you haven’t seen his work of art, I urge you too look it up. Being a J. Stevens Arms & Tool historian and collector I am partial to them. However, JSAT never made that many centerfire’s, though the “Favorite” or 44, 44 1/2 could be someone’s favorite rifle of all time. After Savage took over in 1915/16, they did come out with a few of note. The Savage 220/219; which I believe you reviewed in a video awhile back. The 220/219 started as a striker fire, as you noted; but later iterations were closer to the early “hammerless” designs by JSAT, using an internal hammer. Seeing how much you liked the Savage 220/219 I urge you to seek out a JSAT No. 180 hammerless or perhaps the earlier No 140 hammerless. The latter having the ability with the turn of a screw to switch from extractor to ejector. The No 140 is extremely rare, the No. 180 is fairly rare as well. The No. 180 also had special order iterations the No’s 185, 190, 195.... which are non existent. I have been collecting Stevens over 40 years and never even seen a picture; except in old catalogs. They are both a dream to shoulder, which elegant svelt lines! I have a 180 that I converted some time ago to 577 3 1/4” BPE and that is my favorite rifle..😁 beyond that I’d say an Alexander Henry falling block in ANY caliber
When I saw what you had on the table, I went on point! The quality of the Steyer rifles are certainly some of the best in the world. If I could only have one rifle, it would be a Steyer.
My son got me a Steyr Mannlicher Schoenauer MCA (1964) in .30-06 for Father's day with the full length Mannlicher stock and double set triggers. It really is something special. It has a level of craftmanship you just don't see very often anymore. It is a wonderful example of gunmaking. It is very accurate with the period correct Weaver optic, and the action is as smooth as any rifle I have used.
Great son! Fantastic rifle - the best of classic craftsmanship and design - in a cartridge that remains essentially unbeatable - depending how one measures, despite all the glitter of newer cartridges. Thanks for writing.
@@UnitedStatesOfGuns Thank you so much for your kind words. Yes, my son is very generous and kind. it is a good thing to see your kids achieve great successes in life. As a side note, after my son saw what a wonderful rifle the Steyr is, he bought one for himself...also in .30-06. We also bought an AUG, which while a Steyr, is a very different type of rifle with a much different task and purpose. The build quality is excellent though, as you would expect from a Steyr.
I agree whole heartily with your assessment of these rifles and thanks for reviewing them. My favorites are the Mannlicher-Schoenauers and that quality will never been seen again in a production rifle. You mentioned that you would probably leave the safety off and just raise the bolt handle. Well good luck on that with these rifles! They are so smooth if the muzzle is even raised only a few degrees, it will open and eject your cartridge. ;-). Smoothness in spades!
My all time favorite rifle has been the Weatherby, not only because of the workmanship but the calibers, having said that,,,most anything Mauser is at the top of the list also and have a few of those...now if Weatherby would make a 98 style action as an option I would be in heaven...my favorite looking rifle has always been the Mannlicher full stock models since I was a kid,,,,and my dream rifle would be a .338/378 in a 98 action with a Mannlicher stock. You have one of my if not the favorite channel on you tube....thank you very much
I just handled one of these in the shop, my gosh they are so well made. The action is amongst the smoothest I've ever seen, and the double set trigger is amazing. I want one.
It comes down to personal choice. A better question is: what, in your opinion are the best rifles available, new, used, and military. USOG answers this with every upload. there are MANY fine rifles of varied design and manufacture, form, function, reliability, and accuracy are of premium quality. The fit and finish and appearance of carl gustav and Husqvarna model 38 and 96 are remarkable. model 98 mausers are very nice. Lee enfeild rifles are battlefield proven. I like model 1917 and p-14 rifles, they are TANK tough. I like Howa/vanguard, ruger M77, win mod 70, there are so many. I like the combination of inexpensive and quality/accuracy above all. and I never even mentioned lever action!
I do believe that I have just had the opportunity to have seen some of the most beautiful rifles yet. Thank you for sharing your time and expertise with us. Expanding understanding and knowledge of firearm engineering and design of some of the lesser known rifles is akin to a course in the museology of rifles.
Ah, the BEST question. I believe it comes down to individual taste or also, in my case, eccentricity (laughing at myself). Every example you showed was right up my alley, as would be many many others. As a young man, one of my mentors made a statement, based on his experience, that I’ve never forgot. We entertained that question with great discussion about a great many examples from around the world. Virgils discussions were always designed to be instructive but also to broaden my scope. Thinking outside the box was one of his favorite exercises. After we seemed to exhaust the subject, he concluded with his usual practicality. He stated “As with life’s circumstances, the best for me is whatever I have in my hands at that particular time.” That’s has always stayed with me.
Perfect words. A fellow who cared enough to write me, maybe 2500 years ago : ) wrote something like "...the best and only thing I have in my hands, is my life." Not quite on point but I always loved that.
That era, imo is the golden age of rifle building (1930's-1980ish). Styles a preferences aside, the Mannlicher rifles were right there with the best that could be bought off a store shelf.
Oh god now these are nop notch rifles . In my 56 years of being in the shooting sports , I have only seen a handful of these rifles , maybe 5 I can think of.. Quality all the way through, impressive workmanship..Oh the ones I got to handle I wanted to take them home.. I remember as folks gathered around to look not every person liked the spoon bolt handle as one called it , funny I never forgot that.. Smooth actions God just like silk.. Easy to understand why you like them.
Jack O'CONNER said maybe the best all round rifle was the WINCHESTER PRE 64 model 70 in 270- 257 ROBERTS and 308 .He also said just when they get something almost perfect they go and mess it up . His words after 1964 and the changes made by WINCHESTER. For rifles made in AMERICA, i think the pre 64 model 70 and MODEL 99 SAVAGE are just about as good as it gets as far as choice and reliability go's. Just saying in my opinion they both are perfect.
Nice. I own a savage 99 f 308 and am using ironsights but am going to put on a 6x bushnell sportview and set it out for 300 yards. The iron sights are from a 10/22 Lyman sights and it kinda sucks. I love the feathereight model of savage 99s. Good amount of kick with the steel buttplate, but fun.
@@dalanwanbdiska6542 You got a good one 308 is a dandy. 300 savage is why 308 came to be made. Real close to the same ballistics the military almost chose it but came up with the 308 and the rest is HISTORY.
However Jack O'connor always had his rifles restocked and customized and he states in his book that the factory rifles from Winchester were stocked poorly.
Fantastic video Mike as always. Whenever a notification pops up for your latest video, I have to drop what I’m doing to watch. I always learn something new each time. Thank you. Cheers
My father bought himself a Steyr Mannlicher Model M „Stutzen“ (fullstock) in 30-06 directly after he got his hunting license almost 30 years ago. Then I got my huntinglicense 2 years ago, we bought me my fist gun - also a Mannlicher, same Model, same caliber even a few years older the my dads gun and now I see out of my own experiences, why he never needed anything else! Nowadays you hear so often about the best caliber an rifle and scope and what ever and for me and my dad it’s really funny to follow this debates, because we got our irreplaceable first love in our huntinglife and don’t need to think about that 😊 elegant, precise, safe and smooth as hell!! and just a classic Austrian beauty in a very high quality ❤
Exactly right. I just bought the same carbine in .308. I've owned them before and sold them to fellow collectors and hunters. I'll keep this one. I agree with everything you wrote. If there ever was a better carbine made - I haven't found it. Accuracy is fantastic. Design is brilliant; rotary magazine works flawlessly and materials, fit and finish are the best. I like the shorter .308 - but any cartridge in that Stutzen is fine. Thanks for writing and all the best.
I just brought home the baby action you show here but with a single trigger. It weighs 6 lb. 4 oz. I've bought 2 savage 1920s 250 and 300 and a Savage 99 based on your videos. Also a beautiful BSA Monarch 7mm Rem. Mag. which took a massive buck last season. Thanks for helping me along with my small collection.
wonderful rifles!!! every time i see a spoon bolt handle and the Mannlicher full stock....you just start dreaming of hunting in Bavaria/Austria/Germany...
I fell in love with the MS carbine in 6.5x54, they are absolutely beautiful. An old friend of mine has a full stock MS in 30-06, what fantastic rifles. As for new rifles, the Winchester mod 70 is the only working mans rife I would consider, all the other well made rifles are too expensive for my budget. I prefer older rifles and I think my personal choice would be a Husqvarna Mauser 98, I can buy 2 or 3 for the price of 1 pre 64 Winchester.
@@greybone777 I owned one for a time, I was disappointed that it was not a true crf action, and I disliked the tang safety, but overall I would give the M77 an 8 out of 10 rating.
These videos are amazing. I’ve fallen in love with actions. So much history and genius. I’m more and more enthralled with falling blocks. Thank you. Parkerized, plastic, cerekote yawn. I wish I was born 30 years ago, I could collect without liquidating my ira. For example, I went to a local shop, they had a savage 24 for 800 with rust in the bore, lol. Unbelievable, prices.
I went ahead and bought a Luxus with full length stock in 9.3x62 on your recommendation. No Pressure! It should be here in a week or two in time for Bison season in the Yukon.
Great video! Have you done any double rifle reviews, the kind used to hunt dangerous game by people like Peter Hathaway Capstick or similar professional hunters in that great continent of Africa?
I have a cased, 1922 proofed, M1910 Take Down Model with claw mounted Gerard Model B scope that my grandfather bought 'second hand' in Ceylon, 1930. It is the first thing packed when wildfire threatens the house.
I affirm. I want a Mannlicher-Schoenauer full stock carbine original model so bad. I enjoy my lever and auto-loading carbines, but have never owned a bolt action carbine. I love the baby action modern version you show here. I thank you for introducing me to the Ruger, M77, Mk2 RSI in another video--- I am intrigued.
A Mannlicher in 264 Win Mag = 🤤🤤🤤 I’ve been on the lookout for a Shultz & Larsen in 358 Norma Mag for years. You sir have an amazing collection. Thank you for sharing.
@@UnitedStatesOfGuns K98k (1941)with Norwegian barrel (Kongsberg) in your caliber 3006 Monte Carlo stock New trigger system adjustable and monster scope NF SHV 5-20x56...hmmm are you angry now? hehe... :) I have seen so many haters on this.. :) Hei å hå
I have loved the Mannlicher Schoenauer rifles since the days (1950's - 1960's) when they were advertised on the back page of Shooter's Bible. Anyone remember?
I JUST BOUGHT ONE. STUPID AMOUNT OF MONEY, BUT I THINK IM GOING TO LOVE IT. MISSING THE RINGS FOR THE CLAW MOUNT. VERY EXPENSIVE TO REPLACE I HEAR. ANY SUGGESTIONS?
My first time to be acquainted with the push forward set trigger,..! I did have friend that had two Mannlicher Schopenhauer rifles I forget what caliber they were but I always liked the full stock on the barrel..! He was a son to an Ambassador once upon a time assigned to China long ago.
I would love to get a Steyr Mannlicher SSG in military configuration. I shot it a few times and it's fantastic with it's smooth bolt and accuracy with the hammer forged barrels and excellent trigger.
I had one. I wouldn't have another. The plastic trigger guard, rotary magazine, rear locking bolt, hollow plastic stock all spoiled it to my mind. But granted a nice looking rifle and accurate.
Yay! I totally agree! I have three Mannlicher Schoenauers and they are the jewels of my collection. Gorgeuos. My finest has lovely engraving and wood and checking. I only get full-stocked versions and mostly with double-set triggers. But I am also a stickler for chambering. Best is 6.5x54 MS --- I've been hoarding them and shooting rarely. The best!
@@georgegonzalez-rivas3787 _Oesterr Waffenfabrik. Ges-Steyr_ offered their models of M1903, M1905, M1908, M1910 as stutzen (full stocked carbine), rifle ('half stocked'), or in take down form. Barrel and / or stock lengths could also be custom ordered. The Take Down Model, as well illustrated and described in the 1939 Stoeger Catalog (can't post link here), was built on a system also employed by Westley Richards wherein removal of magazine and a forend pin and turning a lever fore of trigger guard releases complete barrelled action from the stock. I have Grand Dad's cased M1910 Take Down Model (9.5X57 - .375 Nitro Express Rimless) that he purchased 'second hand' at Colombo, Ceylon, in 1930. Do an internet image search of _cased mannlicher takedown_ and you'll get a notion.
I have a Steyr Sequoia made in the 20's (1920's) in 7x64 with a higher quality of wood than normal with a vintage mount...though I am now left eyed I think it's a keeper..
All Mannlicher Schoenauer M1924 'Sequoia' models were originally chambered for the 'U.S. Cartridge' of .30-'06. They were manufactured with longer receivers than the preceding models to accept the longer cartridge, and also had a guide ring around the Schoenauer magazine rotor which allowed for flexibility regarding cartridge length and profile unlike prior models which were rather particular and like to be fed cartridges of the exact MS proprietary profile and specifications of 6.5X54 (M1903), 9X58 (M1905), 8X56 (M1908), and 9.5X57 (M1910). The Sequoia had been produced for export to the U.S. through the Sequoia Importing Company . They didn't sell well and many were rebarreled and configured to chamberings more popular on the European markets, up to 10.75X68. If the '7x64' on your receiver bridge is an overstamp, it may have been 'factory' reconfigured. Otherwise, it may have been altered afterward. Steyr continued to build rifles with the longer action and in several chamberings (including 7X64) which collectors oft refer to as 'M1925', though Steyr never did. Stoeger advertised them as "High Velocity" in their 1939 catalog. Info here: www.africahunting.com/threads/mannlicher-sch%C3%B6nauer-prewar-m1900-m1903-m1905-m1908-m1910-m1924-m1925-or-high-velocity.47277/ And here: forums.nitroexpress.com/postlist.php?Cat=0&Board=mannlicher
NIce video! Great information. I too love my Winchester Model 70 in 30'06, which has the full Mannlicher stock. Heavy barrel and especially accurate with a wide variety of bullet weights. With 150 and 165 grain handloads it shoots three shots in a dime at 100 yards!
@@UnitedStatesOfGuns Thanks for the reply, it's a post 1970 and I've replaced the scope, it's now got a Leopold Pig Plex, love the way this rifle handles. I'm told it once belonged to gun writer Kuhloff. Yes, it's one I'll never part with!
Another great video. I had a MS in 6.5x54 that my dad left me. I sadly traded it because my eyes need a scope now. The Luxus version you showed has a clip similar to my Carl Gustaf 3000 (Sauer 90) in 6.5x55 which in my opinion is also a great action. I have only shot this rifle a couple of time but it shows amazing potential. Keep up the good work.
In my mind, an older 1970’s Remington 700 (or even a new one) in your favorite caliber would be the pinnacle of rifles. I’ve had fancier rifles, stainless, English, BAR...But a solid Remington 700 will definitely work when it’s time.
well, i have the mannlicher-schoenhauer (1958, i believe stamped on the front of the receiver) in 30-06) with european oil stock. and it is a piece of jewelry....later comes the colt sauer in 243 and 30-06. and then the fn browning in 7mm mag. these are my nominees from the distant past--more recent guns require a budget beyond plush and i do not collect anymore. always enjoy your offerings!
I like your videos and seeing all the fancy rifles that I would not get a chance to see,that said I do love my old and new mod. 70 wins,great safety's crf, awesome triggers good stock design. but keep the videos coming love these great rifles from around the globe.
Good choices, beautiful rifles. Your M-S appears to be a 1961 MCA model (but made prior to 1963), or a 1956 MC model. In 1963, they moved the safety for the MCA to the tang, instead of behind the bolt handle. I have one of the MCA's in .30-06, with double-set triggers and a Pecar Berlin 4-10x scope on claw mounts. Very nice little rifle; I may use it for deer season this year...but only on a day when the sun is shining and the weather is clear. :)
Models MC and MCA indicated different stock configuration at the cheekpiece. MC was the Monte Carlo with, per Stoeger catalogs, _"ultra high comb for scope shooting only."_ MCA (Monte Carlo Amerikanische) had a somewhat lower comb than MC _"with all purpose comb for iron sight or scope."_ After introduction of the MC and later MCA styles, buyers who preferred the previous _"conventional style stock as used in Europe"_ were advised by Stoeger to _"merely specify GK - Model 1952 stock"_.
The american Steyrs have lacquered wood. Steyrs are nice guns. The best were made in the 1990s here in europe as far as wood quality & fit and finish. The Schönauers are a different breed.
@@UnitedStatesOfGuns You are welcome. Something you may enjoy is to find a Steyr SL 5,6x50 or for the Connaisseur a Sauer 90 in .222Remington . Both petit rifles. They cost but keep the price also.
Would love to see if you could help date and provide a little more info on. Steyr Mannlicher I have that is, I think, the Lexus grade with high relief engraving, imported by Stoeger. Mine is the full stock.
Those are all very nice 👍. But like you said what is the best??? I was thinking about my favorites and several of them were designed by the same man. 1885 high wall 1886 45-70 1911... I'm not saying these are the best I'm just saying there's some of my favorite. but I do believe and I think a lot of people would agree that John Browning was one of the greatest if not the greatest . That would be an interesting video John Browning and his greatest guns? Thank you Mike great as always 👍
@USOG Mine is not as high end as what you’re showing in the video. Mine is from the mid 90’s. It has a synthetic stock with an older hunting camo pattern . I thinks it’s the pro hunter before it was called the pro hunter. A lil rough around the edges (like that when I got it)but it is my go to whitetail rifle. A pleasure to shoot. 7mm08 is a great cartridge.
Hello USOG, Great video as always! Im absolutely a fan of your channel. Just out of curiosity, how many rifles do u have in your collection? Greetings from Belgium!
Hello Jelle! I had such fabulous times in Brussels! People don't talk about that city enough. I have about 50 rifles - sometimes a lot more or less depending on what my direction my collection is taking. Since I started the channel I seem to have more to study and make videos about. All the best to you and stay healthy.
A person can't go wrong adding a Mannlicher Schoenauer or a Steyr Mannlicher to their collection. I view your recommendation as not just these are great guns, but as a set of details to look for in a "best factory rifle." So, with that in mind, I think that for something that isn't a semi-custom or custom rifle I am going to go with the Miroku made Winchester line of lever and single shot rifles for the "best factory rifle" category. The actions are smooth, fit and finish is excellent, tons of variations, and their lineage is second to none.
Thank you for sharing your beautiful rifles. Saw a Mannlicher that had a terrible hatchet job on the stock. If the guy would have known what caliber it was I probably would have bought it. Just too many unknowns.
My grandpas sako forester deluxe that got handed down to my dad just got handed down to me and I didn't know it was such a nice rifle until I researched it im going to try to take a deer this year with it
Still a great pump gun even though it is mostly plastic, ruclips.net/user/postUgkxh4su9YgU1tWmjikirWcKJbjsFLEU62Bc but with care it will last a long time. It would be neat if Crosman would make a commemorative version of this with real wood stock, but of course it would weigh more and cost more, but hey, it would be cool. The included scope is more of a toy, but it does work for backyard plinking. I prefer to use pellets for greater accuracy, but BBs are just as good for plinking. This is not a Red Ryder folks; fully pumped it is 3 times the power of a Red Ryder and can be dangerous if not handled properly. Be safe out there.
Ive never owned a Steyr Mannlicher, but Ive always admired their craftsmanship.
The full stock model with the claw mounts is an absolutely beautiful rifle! I recently saw one of those go up for sale here in Canada for over 4,000.00 cdn, and it sold!
Hi Dan - You bet - these are more and more desirable rifles and with claw mounts : exceptional.
I learn so much from your videos. I enjoy watching everyone thank you for your time.
Here in the states I believe we refer to it as “forged” and also
“spiraled”. Glad you let us know about “barley twist”.
I love my Steyr Mannlicher rifle :) They're absolutely stunningly well made, it's hard using other rifles when you've owned one of these, they're just so good!
Love the Mannlicher style
Many thanks for this video. I own a Luxus model in 6,5x55 that used to be my fathers. The rifle gives me great joy and bring back good memories from when my father was more agile than he is today. 🇩🇰
A Luxus in 6.5 Swede is as classy of medium game rifle as can be.
Beautiful rifles! Thank you for sharing.
My favorite All time rifle was the first Weatherby deluxe in 300 Weatherby that was made in West Germany! It had looks and could kick anything on the market for it’s time when Roy ruled the rifle industry! I have owned hundreds of rifles since then being a collector over 60+ years and having many custom rifles built and have owned at least one if not more of all the high end rifles but that first Weatherby made my heart flutter like know other since😳
Hey USOG! I just want you to know that I found this channel not too long ago and has quickly become not only my favorite gun channel ,but my favorite channel period on RUclips. No gimmicky sales pitch or flaming skulls and crossbones. Just a knowledgeable guy with an amazing collection of beautiful firearms. Something I highly appreciate. Please keep these great videos coming and I will definitely look into supporting you on patreon. Keep up the excellent work and I have no doubt you will quickly become one of the bigger gun channels on RUclips.
Hello, long time “watcher” though I don’t believe I have ever commented before. Thoroughly enjoy your videos!
You seem to have a soft spot for both Mannlicher and Mauser. I’m not sure if you have ever heard of Fred Wells of Prescott, AZ; most have not. Fred experimented for years with combining the two actions, and his creation was a profound work of art. I met Fred originally 20 or so years ago, then we touched based again short before he passed in 2006. His action used a Mauser receiver/bolt and a Mannlicher rotary mag. If you haven’t seen his work of art, I urge you too look it up.
Being a J. Stevens Arms & Tool historian and collector I am partial to them. However, JSAT never made that many centerfire’s, though the “Favorite” or 44, 44 1/2 could be someone’s favorite rifle of all time. After Savage took over in 1915/16, they did come out with a few of note. The Savage 220/219; which I believe you reviewed in a video awhile back. The 220/219 started as a striker fire, as you noted; but later iterations were closer to the early “hammerless” designs by JSAT, using an internal hammer. Seeing how much you liked the Savage 220/219 I urge you to seek out a JSAT No. 180 hammerless or perhaps the earlier No 140 hammerless. The latter having the ability with the turn of a screw to switch from extractor to ejector. The No 140 is extremely rare, the No. 180 is fairly rare as well. The No. 180 also had special order iterations the No’s 185, 190, 195.... which are non existent. I have been collecting Stevens over 40 years and never even seen a picture; except in old catalogs. They are both a dream to shoulder, which elegant svelt lines!
I have a 180 that I converted some time ago to 577 3 1/4” BPE and that is my favorite rifle..😁 beyond that I’d say an Alexander Henry falling block in ANY caliber
When I saw what you had on the table, I went on point! The quality of the Steyer rifles are certainly some of the best in the world. If I could only have one rifle, it would be a Steyer.
Perfect choice.
My son got me a Steyr Mannlicher Schoenauer MCA (1964) in .30-06 for Father's day with the full length Mannlicher stock and double set triggers. It really is something special. It has a level of craftmanship you just don't see very often anymore. It is a wonderful example of gunmaking. It is very accurate with the period correct Weaver optic, and the action is as smooth as any rifle I have used.
Great son! Fantastic rifle - the best of classic craftsmanship and design - in a cartridge that remains essentially unbeatable - depending how one measures, despite all the glitter of newer cartridges. Thanks for writing.
@@UnitedStatesOfGuns Thank you so much for your kind words. Yes, my son is very generous and kind. it is a good thing to see your kids achieve great successes in life. As a side note, after my son saw what a wonderful rifle the Steyr is, he bought one for himself...also in .30-06. We also bought an AUG, which while a Steyr, is a very different type of rifle with a much different task and purpose. The build quality is excellent though, as you would expect from a Steyr.
As a side note, just got another one in .308 this time. I like the shorter action. @@UnitedStatesOfGuns
Great video sir, as always!
I agree whole heartily with your assessment of these rifles and thanks for reviewing them. My favorites are the Mannlicher-Schoenauers and that quality will never been seen again in a production rifle. You mentioned that you would probably leave the safety off and just raise the bolt handle. Well good luck on that with these rifles! They are so smooth if the muzzle is even raised only a few degrees, it will open and eject your cartridge. ;-). Smoothness in spades!
My all time favorite rifle has been the Weatherby, not only because of the workmanship but the calibers, having said that,,,most anything Mauser is at the top of the list also and have a few of those...now if Weatherby would make a 98 style action as an option I would be in heaven...my favorite looking rifle has always been the Mannlicher full stock models since I was a kid,,,,and my dream rifle would be a .338/378 in a 98 action with a Mannlicher stock. You have one of my if not the favorite channel on you tube....thank you very much
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I love these manlicher rifles
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So beautiful‼️
A true virtuoso is one who appreciates the details in any work.
Always something interesting to learn; thank you for the note.
Thanks for taking the time to show us these awesome guns
Totally agree with you , fabulous rifle the mannlicher Schoenauer is ! PS. I’m happy and fortunate to have one !
I just handled one of these in the shop, my gosh they are so well made. The action is amongst the smoothest I've ever seen, and the double set trigger is amazing. I want one.
It comes down to personal choice. A better question is: what, in your opinion are the best rifles available, new, used, and military. USOG answers this with every upload. there are MANY fine rifles of varied design and manufacture, form, function, reliability, and accuracy are of premium quality. The fit and finish and appearance of carl gustav and Husqvarna model 38 and 96 are remarkable. model 98 mausers are very nice. Lee enfeild rifles are battlefield proven. I like model 1917 and p-14 rifles, they are TANK tough. I like Howa/vanguard, ruger M77, win mod 70, there are so many. I like the combination of inexpensive and quality/accuracy above all. and I never even mentioned lever action!
This is a treat, to see such workmanship, I am in awe!
I do believe that I have just had the opportunity to have seen some of the most beautiful rifles yet. Thank you for sharing your time and expertise with us. Expanding understanding and knowledge of firearm engineering and design of some of the lesser known rifles is akin to a course in the museology of rifles.
Thank you Thom - a huge area of knowledge : firearms - and tied to history - so interesting.
Thank You Again USOG The Luxus At The End Was a Really Interesting Rifle and The Twist Barrel Was Unlike Any I’ve Ever Seen 😲😀
Very lovely rifles indeed. Thanks for showing them to us.
Ah, the BEST question. I believe it comes down to individual taste or also, in my case, eccentricity (laughing at myself). Every example you showed was right up my alley, as would be many many others. As a young man, one of my mentors made a statement, based on his experience, that I’ve never forgot.
We entertained that question with great discussion about a great many examples from around the world. Virgils discussions were always designed to be instructive but also to broaden my scope. Thinking outside the box was one of his favorite exercises.
After we seemed to exhaust the subject, he concluded with his usual practicality. He stated “As with life’s circumstances, the best for me is whatever I have in my hands at that particular time.” That’s has always stayed with me.
Perfect words. A fellow who cared enough to write me, maybe 2500 years ago : ) wrote something like "...the best and only thing I have in my hands, is my life." Not quite on point but I always loved that.
Yes. Very much so.
Love your videos , very informative , and presented in a very relaxing manner .
That era, imo is the golden age of rifle building (1930's-1980ish). Styles a preferences aside, the Mannlicher rifles were right there with the best that could be bought off a store shelf.
I agree. Boy what I would give to live in those days :/
I have a Mannlicher 52 sporter in 30/06, It is love!!!! it feels great and is a tack driver out to 400 yards.
Superb rifles . Thank you for sharing, looks and comments 👍🏻☕️
I have a SM Luxus 30-06. It is absolutely the most beautiful Rifle, and it get the job done.
They are beautiful riffles, and yes the 3006 sure does get the job done.
Oh god now these are nop notch rifles . In my 56 years of being in the shooting sports , I have only seen a handful of these rifles , maybe 5 I can think of..
Quality all the way through, impressive workmanship..Oh the ones I got to handle I wanted to take them home.. I remember as folks gathered around to look not every person liked the spoon bolt handle as one called it , funny I never forgot that.. Smooth actions God just like silk.. Easy to understand why you like them.
Jack O'CONNER said maybe the best all round rifle was the WINCHESTER PRE 64 model 70 in 270- 257 ROBERTS and 308 .He also said just when they get something almost perfect they go and mess it up . His words after 1964 and the changes made by WINCHESTER. For rifles made in AMERICA, i think the pre 64 model 70 and MODEL 99 SAVAGE are just about as good as it gets as far as choice and reliability go's. Just saying in my opinion they both are perfect.
@Kenny Reilly You have some treasure KEN .That 30-06 is is the only one i have not been able to find yet in pre 64..
Totally agree. For me a good example is what they did to the old Ruger M77.
Bill Ruger’s masterpiece.
Nice. I own a savage 99 f 308 and am using ironsights but am going to put on a 6x bushnell sportview and set it out for 300 yards. The iron sights are from a 10/22 Lyman sights and it kinda sucks. I love the feathereight model of savage 99s. Good amount of kick with the steel buttplate, but fun.
@@dalanwanbdiska6542 You got a good one 308 is a dandy. 300 savage is why 308 came to be made. Real close to the same ballistics the military almost chose it but came up with the 308 and the rest is HISTORY.
However Jack O'connor always had his rifles restocked and customized and he states in his book that the factory rifles from Winchester were stocked poorly.
Fantastic video Mike as always. Whenever a notification pops up for your latest video, I have to drop what I’m doing to watch. I always learn something new each time. Thank you. Cheers
My father bought himself a Steyr Mannlicher Model M „Stutzen“ (fullstock) in 30-06 directly after he got his hunting license almost 30 years ago. Then I got my huntinglicense 2 years ago, we bought me my fist gun - also a Mannlicher, same Model, same caliber even a few years older the my dads gun and now I see out of my own experiences, why he never needed anything else! Nowadays you hear so often about the best caliber an rifle and scope and what ever and for me and my dad it’s really funny to follow this debates, because we got our irreplaceable first love in our huntinglife and don’t need to think about that 😊 elegant, precise, safe and smooth as hell!! and just a classic Austrian beauty in a very high quality ❤
Exactly right. I just bought the same carbine in .308. I've owned them before and sold them to fellow collectors and hunters. I'll keep this one. I agree with everything you wrote. If there ever was a better carbine made - I haven't found it. Accuracy is fantastic. Design is brilliant; rotary magazine works flawlessly and materials, fit and finish are the best. I like the shorter .308 - but any cartridge in that Stutzen is fine. Thanks for writing and all the best.
I just brought home the baby action you show here but with a single trigger. It weighs 6 lb. 4 oz. I've bought 2 savage 1920s 250 and 300 and a Savage 99 based on your videos. Also a beautiful BSA Monarch 7mm Rem. Mag. which took a massive buck last season. Thanks for helping me along with my small collection.
That's an impressive collection! The rifles you bought are not easy to find - and are lasting values. I'm glad my channel was helpful!
wonderful rifles!!! every time i see a spoon bolt handle and the Mannlicher full stock....you just start dreaming of hunting in Bavaria/Austria/Germany...
I fell in love with the MS carbine in 6.5x54, they are absolutely beautiful. An old friend of mine has a full stock MS in 30-06, what fantastic rifles. As for new rifles, the Winchester mod 70 is the only working mans rife I would consider, all the other well made rifles are too expensive for my budget. I prefer older rifles and I think my personal choice would be a Husqvarna Mauser 98, I can buy 2 or 3 for the price of 1 pre 64 Winchester.
Ruger m77s are very good and often overlooked
@@greybone777 I owned one for a time, I was disappointed that it was not a true crf action, and I disliked the tang safety, but overall I would give the M77 an 8 out of 10 rating.
Just found your channel!
Thank you. Great info and beautiful rifles
That looks like either a Paul jaeger scope mount or griffin and Howe scope mount on the .264 wm. Also another great video
These videos are amazing. I’ve fallen in love with actions. So much history and genius. I’m more and more enthralled with falling blocks. Thank you. Parkerized, plastic, cerekote yawn. I wish I was born 30 years ago, I could collect without liquidating my ira. For example, I went to a local shop, they had a savage 24 for 800 with rust in the bore, lol. Unbelievable, prices.
Thanks for the note Michael - hope you buy a couple of falling blacks - nothing quite like them.
I paid less than then 600 for a savage 24 in good shape four years ago. All gun / parts prices have gone nuts.
That "Spoon" style bolt is SO cool!
Never seen anything like it
That was a feature common among stutzen, or fullstocked carbines, and was originally for use in a scabbard.
I went ahead and bought a Luxus with full length stock in 9.3x62 on your recommendation. No Pressure! It should be here in a week or two in time for Bison season in the Yukon.
You'll like that rifle! I saw one for sale just like that - almost bought it myself! Please let me know how it all works out.
Best content out there.. like your program.
Very good presentation, well done. I must admit to having an affection for the Winchester model 1886 in .45 70.
Great affection to have. I've got one - and you're right - hard to beat.
My hunting uncle, had a Mannlicher Schoenauer 1956 full stock in 308. It was gorgeous, I just wish the stocks on them were more lefty friendly
Great video!
Have you done any double rifle reviews, the kind used to hunt dangerous game by people like Peter Hathaway Capstick or similar professional hunters in that great continent of Africa?
I have a cased, 1922 proofed, M1910 Take Down Model with claw mounted Gerard Model B scope that my grandfather bought 'second hand' in Ceylon, 1930.
It is the first thing packed when wildfire threatens the house.
I have an Mannlicher Schoenauer in 8x68S and it´s the best thing I have. Excellent in all senses,
That's a unicorn. As good as it gets in rifles and calibers - but you know that.
@@UnitedStatesOfGuns I do know it now, but I didn´t when I got it so I´m even happier now.
Very rare in 8x68S!!!! What model?
it´s a 1964 GK!! @@AustrianJager
Fantastic Rifles. A great topic to make a video on
Thanks Asim!
Thanks for sharing these beautiful, yet functional rifles!
Pretty amazing that they made them at all.
Amazing video and really informative thanks for the nice content
Epic examples of excellence in craftsmanship and design. You have an epic collection sir, thank you so very much for sharing.
Big fan of the Steyr Pro Hunter in 7-08
I affirm.
I want a Mannlicher-Schoenauer full stock carbine original model so bad. I enjoy my lever and auto-loading carbines, but have never owned a bolt action carbine.
I love the baby action modern version you show here. I thank you for introducing me to the Ruger, M77, Mk2 RSI in another video--- I am intrigued.
If capacity is no problem, then I would want a prewar model 70 30.06 with the clip guide. The match postwars still had clip guides.
Jeramy Whitwell I Agree But Would Have The .270 Win Chambering
@@chrischiampo7647 I'm just a 30 Cal guy. 7.62x39,x51,x52,x63. (308,3030,3006)
I agree. 30-06. Pre 64. I just loaded some 30-06, 110 g softpoint, 55 g IMR 4064. OVERALL great round. Great rifle combo.
@@cdamauser1963 What's up with 110 grain? Seems pretty light.
@@jeramyw coyotes :-)..good shooting at 800+yrds
A Mannlicher in 264 Win Mag = 🤤🤤🤤
I’ve been on the lookout for a Shultz & Larsen in 358 Norma Mag for years. You sir have an amazing collection. Thank you for sharing.
I hope you fine the S&L - a diamond - and in .358 an unstoppable force.
You and I hope this, my wife not so much :/
A precise rifle you've trained to hit with and that meets your needs... for me an old thing from 1941 ;)
I like that : )
@@UnitedStatesOfGuns K98k (1941)with Norwegian barrel (Kongsberg) in your caliber 3006 Monte Carlo stock New trigger system adjustable and monster scope NF SHV 5-20x56...hmmm are you angry now? hehe... :) I have seen so many haters on this.. :) Hei å hå
Oh Such Beautiful Rifles. Thank you for the education 👍
I have loved the Mannlicher Schoenauer rifles since the days (1950's - 1960's) when they were advertised on the back page of Shooter's Bible. Anyone remember?
Those are some beautiful examples sir. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks Don!
Loved this episode. I was gifted an '80s vintage Steyr SL in .222 Rem Mag.
It's a wonderful, unique rifle. Very beautiful too.
I JUST BOUGHT ONE. STUPID AMOUNT OF MONEY, BUT I THINK IM GOING TO LOVE IT. MISSING THE RINGS FOR THE CLAW MOUNT. VERY EXPENSIVE TO REPLACE I HEAR. ANY SUGGESTIONS?
@@TELEFUNKENU47458 Geez Kirk, either Numrich or factory Steyr I guess. I paid $80 for an NOS magazine.
Good luck!
My first time to be acquainted with the push forward set trigger,..! I did have friend that had two Mannlicher Schopenhauer rifles I forget what caliber they were but I always liked the full stock on the barrel..! He was a son to an Ambassador once upon a time assigned to China long ago.
Ah, Schopenhauer, not just a German philosopher but a dang good rifle designer! Where would Nietzsche, Freud, Einstein, Jung et al be without him?
CZ527 and some other CZs have them.
I would love to get a Steyr Mannlicher SSG in military configuration. I shot it a few times and it's fantastic with it's smooth bolt and accuracy with the hammer forged barrels and excellent trigger.
I had one. I wouldn't have another. The plastic trigger guard, rotary magazine, rear locking bolt, hollow plastic stock all spoiled it to my mind. But granted a nice looking rifle and accurate.
@@skipmole612 Thanks for the info.
I own a SM12 and I love it. It is extremely accurate and the fit and finish is amazing. The price is fair.
Yay! I totally agree! I have three Mannlicher Schoenauers and they are the jewels of my collection. Gorgeuos. My finest has lovely engraving and wood and checking. I only get full-stocked versions and mostly with double-set triggers.
But I am also a stickler for chambering. Best is 6.5x54 MS --- I've been hoarding them and shooting rarely. The best!
You haven't met a Take Down Model?
@@-oiiio-3993 ???
@@georgegonzalez-rivas3787 _Oesterr Waffenfabrik. Ges-Steyr_ offered their models of M1903, M1905, M1908, M1910 as stutzen (full stocked carbine), rifle ('half stocked'), or in take down form. Barrel and / or stock lengths could also be custom ordered.
The Take Down Model, as well illustrated and described in the 1939 Stoeger Catalog (can't post link here), was built on a system also employed by Westley Richards wherein removal of magazine and a forend pin and turning a lever fore of trigger guard releases complete barrelled action from the stock.
I have Grand Dad's cased M1910 Take Down Model (9.5X57 - .375 Nitro Express Rimless) that he purchased 'second hand' at Colombo, Ceylon, in 1930.
Do an internet image search of _cased mannlicher takedown_ and you'll get a notion.
I have a Steyr Sequoia made in the 20's (1920's) in 7x64 with a higher quality of wood than normal with a vintage mount...though I am now left eyed I think it's a keeper..
All Mannlicher Schoenauer M1924 'Sequoia' models were originally chambered for the 'U.S. Cartridge' of .30-'06.
They were manufactured with longer receivers than the preceding models to accept the longer cartridge, and also had a guide ring around the Schoenauer magazine rotor which allowed for flexibility regarding cartridge length and profile unlike prior models which were rather particular and like to be fed cartridges of the exact MS proprietary profile and specifications of 6.5X54 (M1903), 9X58 (M1905), 8X56 (M1908), and 9.5X57 (M1910).
The Sequoia had been produced for export to the U.S. through the Sequoia Importing Company . They didn't sell well and many were rebarreled and configured to chamberings more popular on the European markets, up to 10.75X68.
If the '7x64' on your receiver bridge is an overstamp, it may have been 'factory' reconfigured. Otherwise, it may have been altered afterward.
Steyr continued to build rifles with the longer action and in several chamberings (including 7X64) which collectors oft refer to as 'M1925', though Steyr never did.
Stoeger advertised them as "High Velocity" in their 1939 catalog.
Info here: www.africahunting.com/threads/mannlicher-sch%C3%B6nauer-prewar-m1900-m1903-m1905-m1908-m1910-m1924-m1925-or-high-velocity.47277/
And here: forums.nitroexpress.com/postlist.php?Cat=0&Board=mannlicher
NIce video! Great information. I too love my Winchester Model 70 in 30'06, which has the full Mannlicher stock. Heavy barrel and especially accurate with a wide variety of bullet weights. With 150 and 165 grain handloads it shoots three shots in a dime at 100 yards!
Very scarce rifle that you have - excellent and with target rifle accuracy - you have a total keeper. Thanks for the note.
@@UnitedStatesOfGuns Thanks for the reply, it's a post 1970 and I've replaced the scope, it's now got a Leopold Pig Plex, love the way this rifle handles. I'm told it once belonged to gun writer Kuhloff. Yes, it's one I'll never part with!
You have great taste in rifles and a keen eye.
Thank you WSM
Another great video.
I had a MS in 6.5x54 that my dad left me. I sadly traded it because my eyes need a scope now.
The Luxus version you showed has a clip similar to my Carl Gustaf 3000 (Sauer 90) in 6.5x55 which in my opinion is also a great action.
I have only shot this rifle a couple of time but it shows amazing potential.
Keep up the good work.
Totally agree. Great analysis.
Thank you!
A finely-made rifle wood/blue is hard to beat and you can still buy them cheap in NZ where I live . Dave
In my mind, an older 1970’s Remington 700 (or even a new one) in your favorite caliber would be the pinnacle of rifles. I’ve had fancier rifles, stainless, English, BAR...But a solid Remington 700 will definitely work when it’s time.
well, i have the mannlicher-schoenhauer (1958, i believe stamped on the front of the receiver) in 30-06) with european oil stock. and it is a piece of jewelry....later comes the colt sauer in 243 and 30-06. and then the fn browning in 7mm mag. these are my nominees from the distant past--more recent guns require a budget beyond plush and i do not collect anymore. always enjoy your offerings!
Colt Sauer 80 or 90 - or the Carl Gustaf 3000 - same as the Sauer : amazing.
Love the bolt handle on the first rifle and I do love me a full wood stock.
Classic handle - hard to beat
Steyr USA gives excellent customer service down in Alabama. Some of the nicest production rifles on the planet.
Beautiful firearms! Thanks for sharing.
You're most welcome
Absolutely TOP guns of this world......Craftsmanship to the fullers
So true Carba.
I like your videos and seeing all the fancy rifles that I would not get a chance to see,that said I do love my old and new mod. 70 wins,great safety's crf, awesome triggers good stock design. but keep the videos coming love these great rifles from around the globe.
Hello Jon - Your rifle is superb. For all the fuss and noise - a Model 70 is all one needs.
Good choices, beautiful rifles. Your M-S appears to be a 1961 MCA model (but made prior to 1963), or a 1956 MC model. In 1963, they moved the safety for the MCA to the tang, instead of behind the bolt handle. I have one of the MCA's in .30-06, with double-set triggers and a Pecar Berlin 4-10x scope on claw mounts. Very nice little rifle; I may use it for deer season this year...but only on a day when the sun is shining and the weather is clear. :)
I know what you mean about clear weather and the MS. : ) Still, I may head into the mountains with my Steyr .308. Great rifles.
Models MC and MCA indicated different stock configuration at the cheekpiece.
MC was the Monte Carlo with, per Stoeger catalogs, _"ultra high comb for scope shooting only."_ MCA (Monte Carlo Amerikanische) had a somewhat lower comb than MC _"with all purpose comb for iron sight or scope."_
After introduction of the MC and later MCA styles, buyers who preferred the previous _"conventional style stock as used in Europe"_ were advised by Stoeger to _"merely specify GK - Model 1952 stock"_.
The american Steyrs have lacquered wood. Steyrs are nice guns. The best were made in the 1990s here in europe as far as wood quality & fit and finish. The Schönauers are a different breed.
Thanks for the note rigbymauser - both great as you say and the Schoenauers are something unique for sure.
@@UnitedStatesOfGuns You are welcome. Something you may enjoy is to find a Steyr SL 5,6x50 or for the Connaisseur a Sauer 90 in .222Remington . Both petit rifles. They cost but keep the price also.
Would love to see if you could help date and provide a little more info on. Steyr Mannlicher I have that is, I think, the Lexus grade with high relief engraving, imported by Stoeger. Mine is the full stock.
The look and sound fabulous!
Remarkable rifles Jon.
Those are all very nice 👍. But like you said what is the best??? I was thinking about my favorites and several of them were designed by the same man. 1885 high wall 1886 45-70 1911... I'm not saying these are the best I'm just saying there's some of my favorite. but I do believe and I think a lot of people would agree that John Browning was one of the greatest if not the greatest . That would be an interesting video John Browning and his greatest guns? Thank you Mike great as always 👍
Wow! These rifles are awesome! Maybe in my next life I can afford one.
You'll have lots in this one 👍
They are wonderful!
Mannlicher Schoenauers are very simply.... extraordinary.
Hi Mike. What a great episode! Man, to be a fly on the wall at your home!
I have an S
It's an interesting place - even if one doesn't like guns : )
Outstanding rifles !!
Steyr Mannlicher 7mm08 is sweet and accurate. I love it
So true - and the 7mm08 is strangely neglected - yet a brilliant performer by any measure.
@USOG Mine is not as high end as what you’re showing in the video. Mine is from the mid 90’s. It has a synthetic stock with an older hunting camo pattern . I thinks it’s the pro hunter before it was called the pro hunter. A lil rough around the edges (like that when I got it)but it is my go to whitetail rifle. A pleasure to shoot. 7mm08 is a great cartridge.
Hello USOG,
Great video as always! Im absolutely a fan of your channel. Just out of curiosity, how many rifles do u have in your collection?
Greetings from Belgium!
Hello Jelle! I had such fabulous times in Brussels! People don't talk about that city enough. I have about 50 rifles - sometimes a lot more or less depending on what my direction my collection is taking. Since I started the channel I seem to have more to study and make videos about. All the best to you and stay healthy.
Just enjoy the knowledge you have.
Thanks Lynn!
A person can't go wrong adding a Mannlicher Schoenauer or a Steyr Mannlicher to their collection. I view your recommendation as not just these are great guns, but as a set of details to look for in a "best factory rifle." So, with that in mind, I think that for something that isn't a semi-custom or custom rifle I am going to go with the Miroku made Winchester line of lever and single shot rifles for the "best factory rifle" category. The actions are smooth, fit and finish is excellent, tons of variations, and their lineage is second to none.
Great choice Trapdoor - can't miss buying those.
Great videos. What is your opinion about new Benelli Lupo and R1 pro E?
Great Video!
I unfortunately do not have one of these works of art in my collection. I'll look into fixing that issue...
Thank you for sharing your beautiful rifles. Saw a Mannlicher that had a terrible hatchet job on the stock. If the guy would have known what caliber it was I probably would have bought it. Just too many unknowns.
My grandpas sako forester deluxe that got handed down to my dad just got handed down to me and I didn't know it was such a nice rifle until I researched it im going to try to take a deer this year with it
I think the best Boltactions are from Rigby , London. But to expensive for normal People. But there are several good ones on the market.