Lets do caste census of this pannel: Nabia jamil- muslim(upper caste muslim) Kamlesh singh - thakur (upper caste hindu) Pooja shali - kashmiri pandit (upper caste brahmin) Priti chaudhary- jat (obc hindu) Gaurav sawant- brahmin (upper caste hindu) Shiv aror - research is going on. Brahmins have made other hindus like obc sc st life worst they don’t have social capital like Brahmins and other upper caste in the society.... eradicate the caste system we don't need reservation.
1 - Do we have any data to prove the oppression by general category people for thousands of years? There was oppression yes , I am not denying it but it was less but let's hear data from those who abuse general category people coz they ones abusing have exaggerated the whole thing. 2- Same people deny oppression done by peaceful community (aurangzeb etc) on hinduz 3- if peacefulz r not responsible for oppression on hinduz, why r general category people responsible for any oppression. Why r we applying different standards 4- book by sufiya pathan and dunkin jalki lays bare the data which rips apart the exaggeration
If a caste Scheduled caste or OBC settles in the foreign country(US, UK) , they cannot claim reservation, since the constitution does not support that. How come the Scheduled caste person is able to make a living there. Therefore reservation is based on a community strength in the country you reside and not based in any moral grounds. The usage of discrimination etc. is absolute nonsense.
Congress policy is divide Hindu community in the name of caste's and get all minority votes. It happened in the past and now PDA worked for congress in some states not for congress btw it worked more for regional parties but bjp still has strong hold in Backworked classes what congress done for them why they arestill pichada as you guys rules our country for over 65 years rahul gandhi need to answer.
Congress have a clear game - divide Hindus in the name of caste and consolidate Muslim in the name of threats from Hindu. They are modern age Britishers who believes in divide and rule. Good thing is people have identified their bluff and kept them out of power for 15 years, sad news is a huge chunk still believes in this brand of game played by Congress...
Did BJP treat all community equal and providing rights? Check the people who are in superior powers. Then you get to know where forward community is placed and OBC, SC, ST and minority are still in struggling to get a superior place.
Do the caste census and make tax payment according to population and not on economic basis. I think that resonates well with jiski jitni aabaadi uski utni hissedari. This is how this country should run. Why should a portion of society bear load of whole society and in return get nothing substantial. This is what jiski jitni............means.
Poor quality debate. Whether there should be caste census or not and what should be its content is the issue. Nobody proposed it should be limited to Hindus and yet assumed so. A persecuted community should press for rather than oppose census. Mouthing " India First" and politics( is bad) is blowing smoke
I wish they could just make their points without pointing fingers or bringing their own personal backgrounds into it. It's a debate after all, the points you make should be independent of their individual Identities
Take caste sensex on superior government jobs, judical judges, loksabha and rajyasabha employees, Secretariat employees. From one community dominating the entire India. We (OBC, SC, ST) people suffering and fighting in loksabha, rajyasabha, and supremecourt to bring a single act to implement for us. But that times these Supreme community people has judicial department in their control. Big example ( without any objections, debate, fight EWS has been implemented).
Dude let's look at the discrimination in your own state. In the state of Tamil Nadu, give me the last time a general category was caught setting fire to the houses of the communities whom you mentioned. All the unfortunate atrocities against the 'sc community' is done by which communities in Tamil Nadu? And it's the dravidian stock that looks at caste everywhere. Then why do you support a 'brahmin' in Rahul Gandhi over an 'OBC' in PM modi? Honestly there's nobody more privileged than Rahul Gandhi. Yet you support Rahul Gandhi but don't address the core issue of who attacks the 'oppressed castes and tribes'. Look at the 'brahmin' population in Tamil Nadu. It's less than 1%. You think a 1% community is capable of that ?
If a caste Scheduled caste or OBC settles in the foreign country(US, UK) , they cannot claim reservation, since the constitution does not support that. How come the Scheduled caste person is able to make a living there. Therefore reservation is based on a community strength in the country you reside and not based in any moral grounds. The usage of discrimination etc. is absolute nonsense
@@2011var But isn't discrimination the entire point of having reservations in the first place, what else then is a reason for having reservations? OBC in a different country presumably wouldn't be affected by discrimination anyway so I don't get what you meant by that
If a caste census proved that the so-called upper caste are in top positions, nobody's going to be surprised since that's what everyone believes right now anyway. So why would they have a problem with that?
@@AV-tp9po Discrimination as per Indian laws is a criminal offence, this is the same in the foreign countries as well. Not sure what the discrimination in India are you referring to? I understand your are very naive or ignorant to understand the definition of the word discrimination
Why Pooja is always there in Democratic newsroom, Rajdeep/Sahil/Rahul must be here. She is just a Govt. Mouthpiece, dont like anything about her way of Journalism.
Lets do caste census of this pannel:
Nabia jamil- muslim(upper caste muslim)
Kamlesh singh - thakur (upper caste hindu)
Pooja shali - kashmiri pandit (upper caste brahmin)
Priti chaudhary- jat (obc hindu)
Gaurav sawant- brahmin (upper caste hindu)
Shiv aror - research is going on.
Brahmins have made other hindus like obc sc st life worst they don’t have social capital like Brahmins and other upper caste in the society.... eradicate the caste system we don't need reservation.
India shouldn't have a caste census . India should go through a census of indian and intruders invedors .
how will you account for kings expanding their territories within India? they also had to invade neighboring areas. Kuchh toh soch ke likha karo
The hell is wrong with this guys .. shout shout shout.. what on earth the public supposed to listen.
Caste census is definitely required
1 - Do we have any data to prove the oppression by general category people for thousands of years? There was oppression yes , I am not denying it but it was less but let's hear data from those who abuse general category people coz they ones abusing have exaggerated the whole thing.
2- Same people deny oppression done by peaceful community (aurangzeb etc) on hinduz
3- if peacefulz r not responsible for oppression on hinduz, why r general category people responsible for any oppression. Why r we applying different standards
4- book by sufiya pathan and dunkin jalki lays bare the data which rips apart the exaggeration
If a caste Scheduled caste or OBC settles in the foreign country(US, UK) , they cannot claim reservation, since the constitution does not support that. How come the Scheduled caste person is able to make a living there. Therefore reservation is based on a community strength in the country you reside and not based in any moral grounds. The usage of discrimination etc. is absolute nonsense.
Congress policy is divide Hindu community in the name of caste's and get all minority votes. It happened in the past and now PDA worked for congress in some states not for congress btw it worked more for regional parties but bjp still has strong hold in Backworked classes what congress done for them why they arestill pichada as you guys rules our country for over 65 years rahul gandhi need to answer.
Congress have a clear game - divide Hindus in the name of caste and consolidate Muslim in the name of threats from Hindu. They are modern age Britishers who believes in divide and rule. Good thing is people have identified their bluff and kept them out of power for 15 years, sad news is a huge chunk still believes in this brand of game played by Congress...
You IDI OT the caste system was not started by the congress but by the upper caste HINDUS.get you head out of your. Behind.
Did BJP treat all community equal and providing rights? Check the people who are in superior powers. Then you get to know where forward community is placed and OBC, SC, ST and minority are still in struggling to get a superior place.
Can we have the caste census redefined. Can we define the castes first, so everyone knows under which caste they fall.
There should be just one reservation - for economically weaker section irrespective of caste, religion
Without a true NRC & UCC, how can one get caste census?
Do the caste census and make tax payment according to population and not on economic basis. I think that resonates well with jiski jitni aabaadi uski utni hissedari. This is how this country should run. Why should a portion of society bear load of whole society and in return get nothing substantial. This is what jiski jitni............means.
Poor quality debate. Whether there should be caste census or not and what should be its content is the issue. Nobody proposed it should be limited to Hindus and yet assumed so. A persecuted community should press for rather than oppose census. Mouthing " India First" and politics( is bad) is blowing smoke
I wish they could just make their points without pointing fingers or bringing their own personal backgrounds into it. It's a debate after all, the points you make should be independent of their individual Identities
Take caste sensex on superior government jobs, judical judges, loksabha and rajyasabha employees, Secretariat employees.
From one community dominating the entire India.
We (OBC, SC, ST) people suffering and fighting in loksabha, rajyasabha, and supremecourt to bring a single act to implement for us. But that times these Supreme community people has judicial department in their control. Big example ( without any objections, debate, fight EWS has been implemented).
Dude let's look at the discrimination in your own state.
In the state of Tamil Nadu, give me the last time a general category was caught setting fire to the houses of the communities whom you mentioned.
All the unfortunate atrocities against the 'sc community' is done by which communities in Tamil Nadu?
And it's the dravidian stock that looks at caste everywhere. Then why do you support a 'brahmin' in Rahul Gandhi over an 'OBC' in PM modi?
Honestly there's nobody more privileged than Rahul Gandhi. Yet you support Rahul Gandhi but don't address the core issue of who attacks the 'oppressed castes and tribes'.
Look at the 'brahmin' population in Tamil Nadu. It's less than 1%. You think a 1% community is capable of that ?
Pandits and upper caste have problems in doing just caste census because their superiority in top positions would be exposed...
Lol a creamy layer within the SC and ST has grown who r oppressing others. But general category is easiest to target for cowards like u🤣
If a caste Scheduled caste or OBC settles in the foreign country(US, UK) , they cannot claim reservation, since the constitution does not support that. How come the Scheduled caste person is able to make a living there. Therefore reservation is based on a community strength in the country you reside and not based in any moral grounds. The usage of discrimination etc. is absolute nonsense
@@2011var But isn't discrimination the entire point of having reservations in the first place, what else then is a reason for having reservations? OBC in a different country presumably wouldn't be affected by discrimination anyway so I don't get what you meant by that
If a caste census proved that the so-called upper caste are in top positions, nobody's going to be surprised since that's what everyone believes right now anyway. So why would they have a problem with that?
@@AV-tp9po Discrimination as per Indian laws is a criminal offence, this is the same in the foreign countries as well. Not sure what the discrimination in India are you referring to? I understand your are very naive or ignorant to understand the definition of the word discrimination
Yes
Preethi Choudry at 11:30, why she is stating that she is Privileged. Who gave the authority to say that she is Privileged. Nonsense.
Does the US, Britain, Germany, Japan, Middle East countries, Turkey, Brazil which have a diverse population never thinks of a caste census
Caste is from India dumbass
Why Pooja is always there in Democratic newsroom, Rajdeep/Sahil/Rahul must be here. She is just a Govt. Mouthpiece, dont like anything about her way of Journalism.
These ladies does not know how to debate.