Two Muslims Shehzad and Shaila are on the podium for speaking against the so called dying secularism. What else is the definition of secularism. Momta Didi is the leader of appeasement politics. Every religion is equal don't confuse appeasement with secularism.
secularism means separation of church and state - means cchurch can do whatever heck that their rreligion say and state have no right to intervene i.e. secularism gives rreligion too much power. for example iislamb says ssex sslavery is legal just like what iisis did so according to secularism state will have no jurisdiction on this matter.
Hindu or Santan Dharma is Secular And full of faith even if others worship And different altars of different godship, O Arjuna, they still worship Me and no one else, Though the rules of their faiths preach something else. Geeta Ch 9 V 23 This means that whole world is HINDU - the whole world
Secular means non religious my bro. It's close to atheism not equality among riligion. We are panth nirpeksh. And iske liye puri dictionary me bhi koi word nhi milega because they don't believe in this.
@@adityarao3577 Yes. The fact that people debate whether the earth is spherical or flat indicates that there is a problem with the education system. Similarly the fact that we need to debate whether secularism is still alive or not, means there is a problem.
@@sunnyvisakapatnamsecularism means division of state and religion. Why can a person be secular? In the name of secularism these people guilt trap hindus and make them ashamed of practicing own religion.
secularism means -- separation of church and state which means church can do anything ( can practice sslavery acc. to their rreligion ) and state will not have any right to interfere in this type of church matters .... this is very dangerous ideology that's why secularism was not included in 1947 constitution.
@@sunnyvisakapatnam I am quite interested in your proposed adage ie "sanathana DHARMA is secular.". Please could you explain secularism citing proper references for your statements and accordingly, please can you draw parallels from the Sanatana Dharma school of thoughts so that it can be asserted that what you said may have some logic?
@@FreddieMurphy746 Add this one as well to make it apple to apple than making it apple to orange: "मत्तः परतरं नान्यत्किञ्चिदस्ति धनञ्जय । मयि सर्वमिदं प्रोतं सूत्रे मणिगणा इव ॥7॥"
@@billtensus Let Dharma be with the people whose in reality it is. Let not the politicians hijack it. You select politicians to run the government, that enable the society to access resources, manage law and order and so on.
Secularism is separation of state and religious institutions which means religious and state institutions should not interfere with each other's functioning. India has never had secularism to begin with. What this panel was debating over is what I call the tolerance and acceptance of all religions which is called pluralism and not secularism. Yes, we have had pluralism for centuries bcos Hinduism is inherently pluralist while Islam is fascist. If Islam were to become dominant religion in India, you can kiss pluralism and tolerance a big goodbye. Your future generations will be forced to convert just like in Paksitan
@@rangappan aray murkh --- secularism is separation of cchurch ( lets take rreligion) and state . Which means rreligion can do whatever their rreligion prescribe 4 example some rreligion allow ssex sslavery and because of secularism state would have no power to stop that . that's why in 1950 constitution they debated about secularism and they outright rejected the inclusion of this particular word secularism.
हमारे देश में जो अत्यंत गरीब हैं, वे दिन-ब-दिन... और अधिक गरीब होते जा रहे हैं... सबसे पहले "गरीबी हटाओ"...जो 25 साल पहले शुरू हुआ था, बहुत महत्वपूर्ण है... हमारे आधे नागरिक केवल एक समय भरपेट भोजन ही कर पाते हैं। पिछले 10-15 सालों में हर जगह महंगाई बढ़ने से आम आदमी का जीना बहुत मुश्किल हो गया है। . . वर्तमान सरकार और विपक्ष को एक साथ मिल कर सभ्य होना चाहिए, एक दूसरे के साथ एकजुट होना चाहिए और सबसे पहले हमारे देश के अंदर की सारी गंदगी को साफ करना चाहिए, ..... सबसे महत्वपूर्ण है कि जनता के पैसे को बर्बाद करने के बजाय धर्मों के बीच एकता और शांति बनाई जाए। दुनिया भर का दौरा करना और चुनाव लड़ना... भगवान राम भी कितने प्रसन्न होंगे... पत्रकारों, मीडिया, CJI, ASI, ED आदि को ऐसे मुद्दों पर बहस करनी चाहिए.. अफ़सोस की बात है कि उनमें से अधिकांश एकतरफ़ा हैं, जिन्हें "हमारे देश के अंदर के बहुत महत्वपूर्ण मुद्दों" की कोई परवाह नहीं है!
Nehruvian secularism. A muslim should be a Muslim and worship allah. Christian should worship jesus. But hindus should follow secularism. If hindu worship idols he will be communal. But if he goes to mazar and worship graves he will be secular. Reject secularism.
@@sansavd Nehru's policy is it's proof of this baised nature. And that's the reason gen Z hates him. Because we have self respect. 1. He refused to participate in somnaath temple's inauguration called it against secularism knowing the unfortunate history of the temple. 2. He introduced waqf board. 3. Hindus of Pakistan voted for congress and muslims of India voted for jinnah in 1946. In 1947 Hindus were k1||Ed on the street of lahore. Nehru did nothing to secure them instead of that he was crying for mus|ims. 4. He kept regressive muslim personal law board. 5. Article 370 6. He made a clergy our first education minister whereas his followers till date questioning yogi adityanath. Because of that clergy Indian history syllabus is completely is|amaised.
India with a Hindu majority has always been secular. As Shehzad pointed out, when Parsis, Jews were persecuted in the entire world, Hindu India gave them unconditional refuge and assimilated them as their own. Hinduism or Sanatan Dharam being the oldest religion in India allowed the progression of so many other new religions like Buddhism, Jainism, Sikhism to evolve propagate and co-exist in India…. so I think there there no debate whatsoever that Hinduism is Secular by nature. The real debate is whether other religions like Islam are secular ? Islam started from a small region and spread across the entire Middle East, parts of Europe, Africa, Asia etc but wherever it spread it totally annihilated the other existing religions or religious practices of those regions. We all know the plight of Hindus, Sikhs, Christians in countries like Pakistan, Afghanistan etc. Even in Hindu majority Nations like India, whenever or wherever muslims become a majority they get rid of other religions and want their own religion and culture to exit and the biggest examples are the creation of Pakistan and Bangladesh or the state of affairs in Kashmir, West Bengal or Kerala which have muslim majorities. In India, Hindus are still secular and all other religions like Christians, Jains, Sikhs, Buddhists etc are secular and co-existing peacefully… so I really feel that the day Indian Muslims become secular that day India will become an actual Secular Country !!
This type of feeling in most of the people in India proves that secularism is dying... They make up things in front of screen and in ground level they are filling the people with radicalisation.
Bharat was always secular! Only congress made it go away from secularism. And top keaders like one speaking are liars, he has to gumption to lie from even this podium!! Liar... Liar...
Bharat was never secular in its history ... We always given space for religion to grow , multiple cultures to fruit in Bharat ... Actually people should look in dictionary and learn what is meaning of secularism .... Indian constitution have special meaning for secularism ( Hand made meaning by , collage drop out Nehru ) Actual secularism was practiced by Soviet Russia , China .... They butcher just any who use religion .... Even though Ambadkar made constitution , Nehru added two words in to constitution *socialist , secular* Also he given special explanation of what he mean by those words ... If you read constitution you can clearly understand what is difference between educated Ambedkar and collage drop out Nehru ...
Secularism is there since long time between all religions that's India...But primary questions needs to be addressed on so called news channels are about Jobs, Economic growth and how we can discuss on growth of industries and make better employee generators
I am in awe and surprise the way Shehla Rashid changed. It has given a very new perspective on Left. In this debate I find her comments and presentation to be the most logical and based on real world examples.
@@MrAshraf1949We have Arfa and others, why they did not change? When you do not bring religion into every aspect of your life, you will start using brains and start becoming logically! Then you will be enlightening!
These people don't have any ideology. Previously congress used to give them funds. Now BJP. 😂. Don't worry about her. This poonawala is also the same case. In fact most of the politicians are same except RSS politicians. They are strict to their ideology.
@@srinum6774 He can't be.. It's a preset insecurity complex embedded by controversial commandments. He can't think of morality or reasoning beyond that commandments. Best example of it u can see in ME.
u know both rashid and khalid ( in video evidence) in JNU says bharat tere tukde hongay iinsallla iinsalla which come under sedition khalid is jail and shehla rashid is outside because she is ffemale just software update kar k chooor diya hai.
Could you elaborate on why you think there's no need for secularism? It would be interesting to hear your perspective and discuss the implications of such a stance. When you say 'no need for secularism,' are you suggesting that religious considerations should play a role in governance, or do you have a different perspective?
@@hereismycomment-l7rthey don’t have the IQ to do so, they get their 2 buck just 2 post something that make them look relevant which is echoing what their masters say
@@edgarallanhoe-w2sBecause Secularism word add in 1975 at emergency time by indra gandhi. In Orginal indian constitution there is not word like secularism , socialism etc .
@@edgarallanhoe-w2sbecause secularism is not a part of original Constitution. It is added un constitutionally by indira gandhi in emergency time. Secular word should be removed restore original constitutional preamble.
Secularism is dying in the country , Riju Dutta was heard saying. What all lies he is blabbering. Shaila Rasheed ( tukde tukde gang) now speaking in a different voice is really surprising. Muslim appeasement is not the only criteria for being secular. Respect the majority of Hindu population of the country. Muslims have chosen Pakistan as their sacred country. Allow Hindus to cherish their land of birth , not to be trodden upon in the name of appeasement politics. Wait till you see this so called minority become majority , this beautiful country of Ram Bhakts will be destroyed. Vande Mataram. Born a Hindu remain a proud Hindu till death. 🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳
There is need to redifine the term secularism. Secularism can not be expected from majority only. Other also has to understand the the true meaning of secularism. Secularism does not not mean practice appeasement policy, allowing others to have their own law. Since independence there has been misconceptions on secularism. Allowing All india muslim personal law board, overturning the Shah Bano case, showing only part of Nupur Sharma and not showing what salmani says, silence of minority on terrorist attack of course will not strengthen the principles of secularism.
Secularism in religion is not a sound argument. You can find many ideas and points which is seen as secular in religious scriptures whether it is geeta,quran,bible,..At the same time you will find things that is completely opposite to secular ideas of an modern human being. It is better not to involve religion. Ideas like liberty equality and fraternity came from self conscious mind of human.
Wow. Did the moderator just said "The debators will be judged on the style, drama, theatre etc and not just on the basis of content??" Just surprised. What journalism has come down to😢
What are you saying??? This is to make debating less serious, making a side win unlike usual serious debates gives new perspective. Theatrics here are just the supporting caste.They know everyone is here for real *matter*. This happens in every dialogue week. *Once in a while*, this refresher and excitement brings out new perspectives. Good it happened. Just made in engaging for non-news-watching-people.
When Modi has become PM then for opposition Atal bihari Vajpeyi becomes the tallest leader. Now think when Yogi will become PM then who will become the tallest leader for opposition?
Ironically, the last speaker, in fact reiterated that as long as Sanaatanis are up and strong, Secularism can't be lost in Bharat. It's because, every Sanaatani, including our beloved PM, are every moment of their lives aware of the foundational ideology that keeps reverberating in their hearts and minds, despite the differences in their isth devata, pooja forms, etc., very well/aptly put out in a famous, beautiful Telugu rendering which is played/sung during rituals in TTD temple ( Tirupati Balaji temple) ' Bhaavamulona bhaagyamulaanulu, Govinda Govinda.... '. What the sanaatanis sing before their deity, echoes secularism in its most beautiful form. People interested can search a RUclips video to learn more about the song.
Sure Shama Muhammad...Nehru never mixed religion with politics. He was just scared of Hindu revivalism which would have been dangerous to his brand of politics and hence he opposed Dr Rajendra Prasad when he wanted the Somnath temple to be renovated. And Riju Dutta when you say that how can citizenship be based on religious lines you need to remember that partition happened not on any socio cultural or economic lines but purely religious lines. So the response to the same has to be on religious lines
INDIA MAHAAN; OUR INDIAN SOIL ; IS NOTHING BUT GOLD. WE NEED TO GO BEYOND; WE ARE ALL humans ; we are all indians we complement one another. we make india great ... together
ill tell you how it effects Muslims brother, Both phrases Put the indian identity ( that is defined by the Authoritarian society ) to the same level as our actual mother, Bharat is my country and not my "mata" or mother. Im happy to be born indian and I dont have to use your phrases to prove anything, im gonna use my own way.
Shahzad.. If a PM is proud hindu and cant even join and wear scul cap.. never said salam to anyone.. Then how come you are forced to start your morning with "RAM RAM JI" you yourself proved that real secularism of practising religion is died...
Its choice of particular ppl no body force muslim to ram ram ji and start your morning..and its greeting of cultural india..pm giving all gobernment benefits to all muslims also he is not saying muslim cant get it ..that is a state saying we r secular and its bjp government
@@Nontouristicindia12err greating muslims with ram ram, namaste and expecting them to reply the same.. is itself forcing them unknowingly.. Kyunke agar if they do not reply in same words you immediately change your mind for that person, and thats a really very true... Why don't we have any other common greeting words for each other which is not religions...
Secularism word must be removed from the constitution of this country. Hindus are secular in nature. Secularism is not the word for appeasement of one particular community, as was being practiced by Congress govts since 1947.
Two Muslims Shehzad and Shaila are on the podium for speaking against the so called dying secularism. What else is the definition of secularism. Momta Didi is the leader of appeasement politics. Every religion is equal don't confuse appeasement with secularism.
Well said
secularism means separation of church and state - means cchurch can do whatever heck that their rreligion say and state have no right to intervene i.e. secularism gives rreligion too much power. for example iislamb says ssex sslavery is legal just like what iisis did so according to secularism state will have no jurisdiction on this matter.
@@urrasscal8380 😂 exactly
Boss understand the pain of Congress . Shila Rashid today is the face of BJP .
@@urrasscal8380isslam never said that, please don't sya anything thw worshipper of incest bramha beti🇵🇰hod
There can be no bigger joke than saying Mamata Banerjee is secular 😂😂
I swear I was agreeing with him at first until he mentioned mamata banerjee.
Really👍
No Hindu could have defended more eloquently than Shehazad Poonawala
Hindu or Santan Dharma
is Secular
And full of faith even if others worship
And different altars of different godship,
O Arjuna, they still worship Me and no one else,
Though the rules of their faiths preach something else.
Geeta Ch 9 V 23
This means that whole world is HINDU - the whole world
Secular means non religious my bro. It's close to atheism not equality among riligion. We are panth nirpeksh. And iske liye puri dictionary me bhi koi word nhi milega because they don't believe in this.
We dont have to defend and get certification from someone
We dont have to defend and get certified by some one
@@IndicRenai-2047Plural and agnostic should be put in constitution !
Debate on secularism would be incomplete without J Sai Deepak and Anand Ranganathan
Nobody is watching those jokers these days. Hate only has so much life.
Tehseen is right.... Congress has lost a Shahjaad. And we have gained a much much deserved brother.
When its a debatable, its already a problem.
People debate if earth is spherical or flat. Does that hint its a problem?
@@adityarao3577 Earth is a natural problem while the other is a mindset create issue
@@adityarao3577 Yes. The fact that people debate whether the earth is spherical or flat indicates that there is a problem with the education system. Similarly the fact that we need to debate whether secularism is still alive or not, means there is a problem.
Secularism is a joke for congress
But it is a debatable topic for BJP
sanathana DHARMA is secular.. no need to talk about the SECULAR SECULARISM SECULARISM WORD 🫵🫵
We need shutdown Congress party and leftists parties 😂
@@sunnyvisakapatnamsecularism means division of state and religion. Why can a person be secular? In the name of secularism these people guilt trap hindus and make them ashamed of practicing own religion.
secularism means -- separation of church and state which means church can do anything ( can practice sslavery acc. to their rreligion ) and state will not have any right to interfere in this type of church matters .... this is very dangerous ideology that's why secularism was not included in 1947 constitution.
@@sunnyvisakapatnam I am quite interested in your proposed adage ie "sanathana DHARMA is secular.". Please could you explain secularism citing proper references for your statements and accordingly, please can you draw parallels from the Sanatana Dharma school of thoughts so that it can be asserted that what you said may have some logic?
@@FreddieMurphy746 Add this one as well to make it apple to apple than making it apple to orange:
"मत्तः परतरं नान्यत्किञ्चिदस्ति धनञ्जय ।
मयि सर्वमिदं प्रोतं सूत्रे मणिगणा इव ॥7॥"
Secularism doesnt need a parliament or any debate...it will survive on its own without political interference by anyone
I am a Hindu by culture and a Christian by faith - Thats my secularism.
Absolutely
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beautyful analogy brother.,love from a hindu
What does your community certificate say ? There are many you convert to Christianity but still maintain their old community certificates 😂😂😂
You are just confused man!
10:10 Shehla Rashid
14:05 Shama Mohammed
18:10 Hindol Sengupta
23:47 Ashutosh ji
27:25 Shehzad Poonawalla
Thanks for this
Thanks for timeline ❤❤❤❤
Moment I saw Shehzad I started feeling pity for the opposition lol
What did he say? He just gibbered.
@@nawajsarif4036aww okay
Secularism is not dying at all. Rather it is flowing more like river Ganga. More than necessary even.
As long as Sanathan Dharm dominates Bharat 🇮🇳 plularism will never die in Bharat 🇮🇳🕉️🇮🇳
Not just Sanatan dharma but also recognition of TRUE(Not white washed) history of past 1000 years.
Lol.
secularism is very dangerous ideology it gives rreligion too much power ... secularism makes indian constitution as goo.
@@hereismycomment-l7r you will be allowed to laugh As long as Sanathan Dharm dominates Bharat 🇮🇳 plularism will never die in Bharat 🇮🇳🕉🇮🇳. hahahaha
@@billtensus Let Dharma be with the people whose in reality it is. Let not the politicians hijack it. You select politicians to run the government, that enable the society to access resources, manage law and order and so on.
Shehzad is a very heavy weight for the entire opposition. He deserves and is needed on international panels. Please pass this on.
They did not have the guts to invite Sai Deepak ji. Completely understandable 🤣
I am not secular i am Hindu and i always loudly said Jai shree Ram 🚩 Bande mataram, Bharat Mata ki Jai ❤❤❤
So proud of poonawala doing an extempor debate and showing his debating skill.Great job!!! Well done, young man.
Result itself shows.. secularism has died...
Brilliant logically explained by Shehzad Bhai...👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Debate should have been "is democracy dying in India" instead of "Secularism..."
Shela Rashid ji❤❤❤❤ Thanks from Hindu Community
Rahul - how can you be so dumb?
Secularism will never die in india as hinduism by nature is secular
do u even know the definition of secularism
@@nogag8219 Kindly Explain Sir ! we Dont .
Secularism is separation of state and religious institutions which means religious and state institutions should not interfere with each other's functioning. India has never had secularism to begin with. What this panel was debating over is what I call the tolerance and acceptance of all religions which is called pluralism and not secularism. Yes, we have had pluralism for centuries bcos Hinduism is inherently pluralist while Islam is fascist. If Islam were to become dominant religion in India, you can kiss pluralism and tolerance a big goodbye. Your future generations will be forced to convert just like in Paksitan
@@rangappan aray murkh --- secularism is separation of cchurch ( lets take rreligion) and state . Which means rreligion can do whatever their rreligion prescribe 4 example some rreligion allow ssex sslavery and because of secularism state would have no power to stop that . that's why in 1950 constitution they debated about secularism and they outright rejected the inclusion of this particular word secularism.
Hindus should wake up. Remember 800 years of atrocities on Hindus.
Shehazad stood up when others came. Which shows how much cultured he is. More power to you sir.❤️🩹
first need to define what is secularism . i think India is secular because of its bharathiya values.
secularism is very dangerous idea -- tomorrow because of ssecularism bachca bazi and ssex sslavery will be rampant in iindia.
हमारे देश में जो अत्यंत गरीब हैं, वे दिन-ब-दिन... और अधिक गरीब होते जा रहे हैं...
सबसे पहले "गरीबी हटाओ"...जो 25 साल पहले शुरू हुआ था, बहुत महत्वपूर्ण है...
हमारे आधे नागरिक केवल एक समय भरपेट भोजन ही कर पाते हैं।
पिछले 10-15 सालों में हर जगह महंगाई बढ़ने से आम आदमी का जीना बहुत मुश्किल हो गया है। . .
वर्तमान सरकार और विपक्ष को एक साथ मिल कर सभ्य होना चाहिए, एक दूसरे के साथ एकजुट होना चाहिए और सबसे पहले हमारे देश के अंदर की सारी गंदगी को साफ करना चाहिए, ..... सबसे महत्वपूर्ण है कि जनता के पैसे को बर्बाद करने के बजाय धर्मों के बीच एकता और शांति बनाई जाए। दुनिया भर का दौरा करना और चुनाव लड़ना...
भगवान राम भी कितने प्रसन्न होंगे...
पत्रकारों, मीडिया, CJI, ASI, ED आदि को ऐसे मुद्दों पर बहस करनी चाहिए.. अफ़सोस की बात है कि उनमें से अधिकांश एकतरफ़ा हैं, जिन्हें "हमारे देश के अंदर के बहुत महत्वपूर्ण मुद्दों" की कोई परवाह नहीं है!
@@josephdsouza1515 meanwhile dharti chapti hai (revelation 7:1).
2 Muslims Saying Hinduism is peak of Secularism and 2 Hindus Saying Hindutva is Evil - If this is not Secularism i dont know what is!
Secularism doesn't mean to demean sanatana Dharma
Nehruvian secularism. A muslim should be a Muslim and worship allah.
Christian should worship jesus.
But hindus should follow secularism. If hindu worship idols he will be communal. But if he goes to mazar and worship graves he will be secular.
Reject secularism.
secularism gives too much power to rreligion ..
The misguided pseudo seculars need a sake up call!😡😡😢
@@HeavenRacer422 Did Nehru say that or you paraphrasing for a person like me. Could you refer some books on this to prove your point?
@@sansavd Nehru's policy is it's proof of this baised nature. And that's the reason gen Z hates him. Because we have self respect.
1. He refused to participate in somnaath temple's inauguration called it against secularism knowing the unfortunate history of the temple.
2. He introduced waqf board.
3. Hindus of Pakistan voted for congress and muslims of India voted for jinnah in 1946. In 1947 Hindus were k1||Ed on the street of lahore. Nehru did nothing to secure them instead of that he was crying for mus|ims.
4. He kept regressive muslim personal law board.
5. Article 370
6. He made a clergy our first education minister whereas his followers till date questioning yogi adityanath. Because of that clergy Indian history syllabus is completely is|amaised.
India with a Hindu majority has always been secular. As Shehzad pointed out, when Parsis, Jews were persecuted in the entire world, Hindu India gave them unconditional refuge and assimilated them as their own. Hinduism or Sanatan Dharam being the oldest religion in India allowed the progression of so many other new religions like Buddhism, Jainism, Sikhism to evolve propagate and co-exist in India…. so I think there there no debate whatsoever that Hinduism is Secular by nature. The real debate is whether other religions like Islam are secular ? Islam started from a small region and spread across the entire Middle East, parts of Europe, Africa, Asia etc but wherever it spread it totally annihilated the other existing religions or religious practices of those regions. We all know the plight of Hindus, Sikhs, Christians in countries like Pakistan, Afghanistan etc. Even in Hindu majority Nations like India, whenever or wherever muslims become a majority they get rid of other religions and want their own religion and culture to exit and the biggest examples are the creation of Pakistan and Bangladesh or the state of affairs in Kashmir, West Bengal or Kerala which have muslim majorities. In India, Hindus are still secular and all other religions like Christians, Jains, Sikhs, Buddhists etc are secular and co-existing peacefully… so I really feel that the day Indian Muslims become secular that day India will become an actual Secular Country !!
without Jai Sai Deepak...this discussion is incomplete.
He cant be every where....right now i think he is spreading nonsense in the US
they way u r here @@BrahmiKumar
There is no match of Jai Sai Deepak in this debate so he is absent
Non sense 😂😂OK@@BrahmiKumar
You mean, the sidekick and mouth piece of Bhrasht jumla party 🖤👹
This is the the real secularism - hindus are defending muslims, muslims are defending hindus.
Conclusion ❤
Shehzad Poonawalla 👌🔥
This Poona wala is a fraud and blatant liar just like his new mentor the corrupt Modi!!!
Andh bakth 🤣
Andha bakth
@@FawazFawaz-iz9xdAndhnamaji 😂😂
@@FawazFawaz-iz9xd jali na teri jali na
For Shehla Rashid , Secularism means all about Muslims 😂😂
If Secularism is dying in India, then it's very good.
It's very good direction.
This type of feeling in most of the people in India proves that secularism is dying... They make up things in front of screen and in ground level they are filling the people with radicalisation.
Bharat was always secular! Only congress made it go away from secularism. And top keaders like one speaking are liars, he has to gumption to lie from even this podium!!
Liar... Liar...
Bharat was never secular in its history ... We always given space for religion to grow , multiple cultures to fruit in Bharat ...
Actually people should look in dictionary and learn what is meaning of secularism ....
Indian constitution have special meaning for secularism ( Hand made meaning by , collage drop out Nehru )
Actual secularism was practiced by Soviet Russia , China .... They butcher just any who use religion ....
Even though Ambadkar made constitution ,
Nehru added two words in to constitution *socialist , secular*
Also he given special explanation of what he mean by those words ...
If you read constitution you can clearly understand what is difference between educated Ambedkar and collage drop out Nehru ...
Let us not equate Western "secularism" with Bharat's natural secularism that all religions are able flourish here.
Wow Shezad 👌🙏💐👍 eloquently explained thank you Bhai ❤
Instead of tick tick sound of clock it is better to display the timing sign board on the stage
Shehzad is on fire 👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽 Excellent kick on Nehruvian secularism.
Secularism treats all religions equally yet a Hindu prime minister cannot go to the temple. Jai hind
Only for sehzad ❤❤❤❤❤😊
Sehzaad poonawala epic reply🎉
Shehzad Poonawala ❤️🔥🔥🔥🔥
Secularism is there since long time between all religions that's India...But primary questions needs to be addressed on so called news channels are about Jobs, Economic growth and how we can discuss on growth of industries and make better employee generators
Shehzad is 🔥 🔥. Punched holes in opposition argument
Secularism is dying.. That's true
It died in 1947, it's coming back now.
Secularism died when 8 laws against Hindus were created.
hOW
I am in awe and surprise the way Shehla Rashid changed. It has given a very new perspective on Left. In this debate I find her comments and presentation to be the most logical and based on real world examples.
Shiela is trying to save her skin as KASHMIRIS suffered most at the hands India HINDUVITA. Love from loving Canada 🇨🇦.
@@MrAshraf1949We have Arfa and others, why they did not change? When you do not bring religion into every aspect of your life, you will start using brains and start becoming logically! Then you will be enlightening!
These people don't have any ideology. Previously congress used to give them funds. Now BJP. 😂. Don't worry about her. This poonawala is also the same case. In fact most of the politicians are same except RSS politicians. They are strict to their ideology.
@@srinum6774 He can't be.. It's a preset insecurity complex embedded by controversial commandments. He can't think of morality or reasoning beyond that commandments. Best example of it u can see in ME.
u know both rashid and khalid ( in video evidence) in JNU says bharat tere tukde hongay iinsallla iinsalla which come under sedition khalid is jail and shehla rashid is outside because she is ffemale just software update kar k chooor diya hai.
No need any secularism.
Could you elaborate on why you think there's no need for secularism? It would be interesting to hear your perspective and discuss the implications of such a stance. When you say 'no need for secularism,' are you suggesting that religious considerations should play a role in governance, or do you have a different perspective?
@@hereismycomment-l7rthey don’t have the IQ to do so, they get their 2 buck just 2 post something that make them look relevant which is echoing what their masters say
Aryaman Sundar hit the nail on the head. Political parties using religion would be constitutionally impermissible and unconstitutional. 👌🏼🙏🏼
The word secularism should be removed from constitution
Why exactly? Please explain
@@edgarallanhoe-w2sBecause Secularism word add in 1975 at emergency time by indra gandhi. In Orginal indian constitution there is not word like secularism , socialism etc .
@@edgarallanhoe-w2ssecular parties are more Islamist in nature.
@@edgarallanhoe-w2s Your question was well debated, analysed and concluded way back in 1948s right in The Constituent Assembly. Just read.
@@edgarallanhoe-w2sbecause secularism is not a part of original Constitution. It is added un constitutionally by indira gandhi in emergency time. Secular word should be removed restore original constitutional preamble.
Accurate headline should be " is One sided secularism is dyin' in india ?"😂
Secularism is dying in the country , Riju Dutta was heard saying. What all lies he is blabbering. Shaila Rasheed ( tukde tukde gang) now speaking in a different voice is really surprising. Muslim appeasement is not the only criteria for being secular. Respect the majority of Hindu population of the country. Muslims have chosen Pakistan as their sacred country. Allow Hindus to cherish their land of birth , not to be trodden upon in the name of appeasement politics. Wait till you see this so called minority become majority , this beautiful country of Ram Bhakts will be destroyed. Vande Mataram. Born a Hindu remain a proud Hindu till death. 🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳
This debate proved that Bharat got independence in 2014
A healthy India. Bravo.
India doesn't need secularism. Remove the word from the Constitution.
India needs to promote dharma within the country and even in other countries.
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Indeed ❤
Yes
plus secularism allow some rreligion to perform ssex sslavery ....
As if the world is thirst for Hindu lol
stone pelting is secular, re-building a mandir in its original place is communal!
There is need to redifine the term secularism. Secularism can not be expected from majority only. Other also has to understand the the true meaning of secularism. Secularism does not not mean practice appeasement policy, allowing others to have their own law. Since independence there has been misconceptions on secularism. Allowing All india muslim personal law board, overturning the Shah Bano case, showing only part of Nupur Sharma and not showing what salmani says, silence of minority on terrorist attack of course will not strengthen the principles of secularism.
Secularism in religion is not a sound argument. You can find many ideas and points which is seen as secular in religious scriptures whether it is geeta,quran,bible,..At the same time you will find things that is completely opposite to secular ideas of an modern human being. It is better not to involve religion. Ideas like liberty equality and fraternity came from self conscious mind of human.
Ashutosh has always lied everyone knows and everytime!!
Ashorosh has DNA of padosi
Ashutosh is always talks nonsense
When Ashitosh is on your side you are sure of defeat.
Rubbish and biased view of Ashutosh 😊😊😊😊😊😊
Waste life
Looting temple money to fund other faiths is secularism?!
Christians and Hindus want BJP in Kerala!
So go out and vote Ricebag.
And tell your Priests to talk about this in Sunday Mass instead of empty talk about the coming of JC.
Oh sangi changam tinno 😂
Poor Muthalman maskeens 😂😂😂😂@@FawazFawaz-iz9xd
@@FawazFawaz-iz9xd Abbey Katwe- Tereku kya samaj mein aaya?
Woh tho English main hain.
@@FawazFawaz-iz9xd what's up katwa????
Modi awarding Sudhir Choudhary as the most unbiased news presenter.
Wow. Did the moderator just said "The debators will be judged on the style, drama, theatre etc and not just on the basis of content??" Just surprised. What journalism has come down to😢
What are you saying??? This is to make debating less serious, making a side win unlike usual serious debates gives new perspective. Theatrics here are just the supporting caste.They know everyone is here for real *matter*. This happens in every dialogue week. *Once in a while*, this refresher and excitement brings out new perspectives. Good it happened. Just made in engaging for non-news-watching-people.
Privileged people will decide what is the situation of India.
Corporates is ruling India.
Modi's Bharat Mata is Corporates.
When Modi has become PM then for opposition Atal bihari Vajpeyi becomes the tallest leader.
Now think when Yogi will become PM then who will become the tallest leader for opposition?
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Decades down, your beloved leader's name will be added to a long list of despicable autocrats in History books
SECULAR word was added during Emergency. It should be removed ASAP..
secularism is a ghatiya idea -- it allow ssex sslavery.
By this it shows the Democracy is not dying.. but still the opposition including our suedo Anchor will cry in all the debates...
Bharat Mata ki . Jai….
Why people say that secularism is fading away from indian?? Who make it so and who are responsible? Please think deeply people of India
India today should tell me whether equality of rights exists for men and women in all religions.
Missed Anand Ranganathan in this debate and j Sai Deepak... They would have countered every single point of the ones who spoke for the topic
Only juniors seems to be on stage too small stage for both of them
I am missing j sai deepak
Ashutosh is little blind from History I say bless him
Ironically, the last speaker, in fact reiterated that as long as Sanaatanis are up and strong, Secularism can't be lost in Bharat.
It's because, every Sanaatani, including our beloved PM, are every moment of their lives aware of the foundational ideology that keeps reverberating in their hearts and minds, despite the differences in their isth devata, pooja forms, etc., very well/aptly put out in a famous, beautiful Telugu rendering which is played/sung during rituals in TTD temple ( Tirupati Balaji temple)
' Bhaavamulona bhaagyamulaanulu, Govinda Govinda.... '.
What the sanaatanis sing before their deity, echoes secularism in its most beautiful form.
People interested can search a RUclips video to learn more about the song.
Shehzad Poonawala Just Rock 💥
What kind of secular. India is always a secular country. A Gandhi and Nehru are the real culprit
Shezad Shezad Shezad......Tusi great ho Bhai🙏🙏
That clock sound is so irritating....
Wonderful the last commenter talks about Hinduism. 😊
ASHUTOSH (POOR GUY) MUNGERI BIKAU CONGRESS AGENT CHATUKAR HAPPY TO SEE HIS PAIN 😅 ASK ASHUTOSH WHY ( KANSIRAM) SLAP HIM😮😮😅
Sai, Anand & Sampath is needed here
I recently wen to coclutta ..it reminds me.of 1950 black and white india ..no progress at all... We dont want india to be like westbengal
You absolutely correct
I'm stunned on 180° change of Shela Rashid 😐 but good change.👏
Instead of secularism, the term that they should use is, ‘ is tolerance, compassion, respect for diversity’ dying in India?
Sure Shama Muhammad...Nehru never mixed religion with politics. He was just scared of Hindu revivalism which would have been dangerous to his brand of politics and hence he opposed Dr Rajendra Prasad when he wanted the Somnath temple to be renovated. And Riju Dutta when you say that how can citizenship be based on religious lines you need to remember that partition happened not on any socio cultural or economic lines but purely religious lines. So the response to the same has to be on religious lines
secularism is a very bad idea it gives too much power to rreligion.
nehru biggest mistake is not doing total popul xchange after partition.
Shehzad Brutaly Bucherd all of opponents 😂
WHAT A SHAME Sickularism
INDIA MAHAAN;
OUR INDIAN SOIL ;
IS NOTHING BUT GOLD.
WE NEED TO GO BEYOND;
WE ARE ALL humans ; we are all indians
we complement one another.
we make india great ...
together
I was just thinking the same question how does saying bharat mata ki jai or vande mataram affect muslims ? But unfortunately somebody has asked 😅
ill tell you how it effects Muslims brother, Both phrases Put the indian identity ( that is defined by the Authoritarian society ) to the same level as our actual mother, Bharat is my country and not my "mata" or mother. Im happy to be born indian and I dont have to use your phrases to prove anything, im gonna use my own way.
Shahzad..
If a PM is proud hindu and cant even join and wear scul cap.. never said salam to anyone..
Then how come you are forced to start your morning with "RAM RAM JI"
you yourself proved that real secularism of practising religion is died...
Its choice of particular ppl no body force muslim to ram ram ji and start your morning..and its greeting of cultural india..pm giving all gobernment benefits to all muslims also he is not saying muslim cant get it ..that is a state saying we r secular and its bjp government
@@Nontouristicindia12err greating muslims with ram ram, namaste and expecting them to reply the same.. is itself forcing them unknowingly..
Kyunke agar if they do not reply in same words you immediately change your mind for that person, and thats a really very true...
Why don't we have any other common greeting words for each other which is not religions...
hinduism has survived?well yeah we see that in modern pak and afghanistan how well hinduism has survived
GOA ruled by PORTUGUESE (JESUITS MISSIONARY) nearly more than 450 years still inspite of INQUISITION
REMAINS SANATAN DHARM MAJORITY.
TMC guy started on a shaky ground 😂😂😂😂
secularism means equal rights for men and women in all religions.
Complete separation of religion from the government. When states controls temples then by definition India is not a secular country....
no it just means keep religion from state .
@@innogenxmarketing6975no. It means state doesnt discriminate based on religion.
Like this scheme is only for hindus etc
45:35 where hindus survived??
66% of Bengal is an Islamic Country.
Very Unique....superB style of Debate.......As usual Shehzad Bhai.....🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Very good shaila.. this is how dealed yourself out of the jail...
This enclave becomes biased without owaisi....
True, also biased without Mr. Ranganathan, Mr. Annamalai or Mr. Sai Deepak. Watch either of them debate Mr. Owaisi.
Ashutosh was very entertaining as usual.
I loved it. India and indians need more public debates happening.
Shahzad nailed it 👌
Secularism word must be removed from the constitution of this country. Hindus are secular in nature. Secularism is not the word for appeasement of one particular community, as was being practiced by Congress govts since 1947.
More power to Shehazad