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ALOHAS and 38:39 Episode 2.... as he hits the BUS window...!!! hello Mr. KNight... i will be your TAXI DRIVERS... that was i nice PUNCH... my U TURNS... ARE yous TALKING ta ta TAAAA ME...!!! are yous TALKING TOOO MEEEEEE...meow
Can you do a video on the different overrides? I think elephant means they can remember everything, not sure about Glasgow…i think keir wants to control his daughter helly and replace her consciousness with his own eventually
I love your channel but can you please not include a “heavy spoiler” in the thumbnail itself? ❤️ this popped up in my recommended videos while I was only 3 episodes in. Still an amazing series, just wish I hadn’t seen the image of those two together.
I love the duality of the characters. Mark is severed because he wants to escape the wreck that killed his wife, only for his innie to work with her (at least until she was removed), Helena is severed to promote the severance program and how wonderful it is, while her innie rebels against it and expresses her dislike of the program, and Irving seems to be severed as a way to gain access inside Lumon and expose the company which may or may not be connected to his dad, while his innie was the biggest worshipper on the severed floor.
Agree with your takes except for Irv's motivations. Think he went to be severed to escape the pain of Burt leaving him for another partner. Tho the PTSD theory also possible. Yet to know Dylan's exact motivating factor, but oh boy, he's in for some brutal punishments + possibly a ‘Clean Slate’ wipe or whichever of those processes
And Dylan is a mystery. He assumed the outside word was an apocalypse of awful and ocean but actually it’s warm av be he has a loving son. His arc went from devil may care lone wolf to family man inside and out. I love how Irving was a heavy metal, fast car, screw the system, loose canon artist as an outie
actually it wasn't as good as it could have been should he had said "Gemma is alive!", because this way his sister may think he's referring to the baby
@@nicocba2007 That’s WHY it was a smart choice. If he would’ve yelled Gemma, everyone would’ve assumed he was having a breakdown of some kind over his wife, repeating to him, “Mark, she’s dead.” But by NOT identifying, most will probably assume he was referring to the baby. Which sucks for us, lol, but opens up him up to not being believed. Which moves the story forward.
And I’m sure they debated. “Does he say Gemma?” I think it was the smart choice. If he would’ve said Gemma, I think everyone at the party would’ve assumed he was having a breakdown over his wife that they all knew was dead (for all they know). They would be trying to convince him she was really dead, he would be arguing back looking even crazier. But by leaving it open to interpretation and it probably being about the baby to most people at the party, it just feels more like a chance for a great opening to season two.
I hope they’ve already been filming. I also wish it was a whole season drop like Netflix vs weekly. But… I’ll still watch each week and then binge the final week 🥹
@@HeatherHolt Nah i think its better that we can't binge it because then all the cliffhangers are more dramatic and we get the chance to think about it more, which keeps us on edge more. But also if you did want to binge it you could just watch it all at the end when it all comes out.
Ms Cobel did nothing to stop Mark from telling his sister everything, including not taking their baby with her as leverage. She only did what was necessary to convince Lumon to rehire her, so she can find the evidence she's looking for inside.
If she tried to intervene in their conversation, Mark would've told his sister anyway, even through a fight with her. Besides, taking the baby isn't a smart move, since she could be arrested for kidnapping considering a lot of people had seen her there. She did the best she could at the given situation, notified who could solve the problem and tried to stop Helly from spilling things that could be harmful to Lumon.
Goats = cloning = Gemma/Ms Casey’s death. She was part of severance before she died. They cloned her dead body and put Ms Casey back in. But they didn’t restore Gemma. This is all laying the ground to bring the board members back. Also could be aligned to the soldier thing. Train a soldier once so he has the skills. Sever him - send him out to battle. He dies - just restore a severed copy and save the retraining cost. Plus they’d be ruthless killing machines with no memories/essentially no conscious.
yeah so thats why, milkchick said "the chip its working" means, gemma/Ms casey's as far we know on the movie is should be a tester from cobel to mark, just to make sure, "the chip planted into their head" and the system is working, since you know if mark outie seen the ms casey's should build an emotional or something, cause they were in accident , and they testing it for the innie that's suppose to be a hearbreak full memory, but yeah the "thing" is working mark doesnt remember anything about gemma/casey
@@bs-hl2ir So you think they can selectively block one chunk of memories with a chip that can be controlled remotely? So yes - given the subject matter of the show - why not?
New theory the whole point of the severance floor is to test new ways to use the chips. I think the point of the numbers is to see if you can turn off a certain emotion that’s why the numbers make you feel something.!Picking random numbers helps them with knowing how to program the chips settings.
That doesn’t work for me and here’s way… from what we can tell they’re only doing it with MDR. That’s only 4 people, all of whom are definitely over 35. You would need a much bigger test group. Also you only have one woman and one minority, again we need more subjects to establish a true pattern. While Helly has offended herself for severance, her inny would not but used for such a simple task. Just my thoughts
@@asant90 wow. You were really triggered by an alternative HYPOTHESIS huh? So much so, that you made a giant connection with grammar in the RUclips COMMENTS to this user’s intelligence. Many brilliant people make mistakes typing out their thoughts simply because their mind moves quicker than their fingers/thumbs. Grammar mistakes in text also happen when a person edits their thought numerous times, & fails to change a word or two. That aside, based on your comment, it’s possible that a genius who speaks english as a second language, but struggle to write that language, “lacks credibility” as well right? I can keep going if you want. There are a lot of reasons grammar in text is NOT at all correlated with intelligence or credibility. I bet you’re smart enough to know that though. So we’ll just blame your ignorant comment on how obvious an emotional response it was. Over a TV show hypothesis. That literally no one (including the show runners) can possibly have credibility on. IT’S CLEARLY A WORK IN PROGRESS!
16:40 Helena/Helly photo of her face is split in two = reference to severance. I’ve rewatched the series three times now, and pick up more Easter eggs and hidden gems in plain sight each time. Excellent direction, production, screenplay, acting, and storytelling. Love this show!
did you realize In episode 8 that when Dylan is flipping the switches, you can see ms Casey’s name on one of the screens and it’s not lit up like most of the other names hinting that she’s dead or a zombie experiment or something? there’s a few other names that aren’t lit up as well. Very strange.
Had the privilege to meet Adam Scott during the filming of the show. They filmed in Beacon NY for parts of it but the last episode actually had a part where Ms.Cobel passes Irving at a dummy light and that was all filmed right in Beacon. Loved the show overall!!
Severance accomplishes the difficult task of being a slow-burning, intriguing show all the way through, while also capitalizing in the final episode with several ENORMOUS payoffs for the viewer. Loved it. Really well done.
I think Irving started as a painter at Lumon. Maybe he painted both of those pictures that he saw of MDR attacking others and also the one in the hallway of the wellness session.
I don't think those attacks ever happened. Lumon is using those pictures to encourage mistrust between departments. Lumon doesn't want the departments to join forces together and start asking questions.
When would he have painted them? Would it have been his outtie? Before he was severed? Why would he paint pictures like that? It always thought it was one of the Eagans who painted them.
One of the cleverest things in this, which very successfully (and inexplicably) gives me real feeling of uneasiness, creeps me out, is the nonsensical mismatching in decor and also tech. Eg; they work at Lumen, a company renowned for its ground breaking modern technology, but then there is flip phones, cassette decks, fat back monitors... all mixed together. And the decor, walking down a hallway with conference rooms spaced out on the right hand side, each subtly furnished in a different era 60s, 80s, 2000s etc
@@joshselkovits466 Heard it was to dissociate the innies as far as possible from the outside world. For 1 it's low-tech which means no communication to the outside, and also it helps put-off any possible reintegrating thoughts they might share with their Outie living in the modern world
I found it so fascinating that Gemma/Ms Casey is Mark’s wife who is actually alive. You know Severance is working when loving spouses don’t recognize each other. Opens possibilities as to what Lumen is up to. It’s an intriguing series.
The weirdest part of Ms. Cobel is she encouraged outtie Mark to quit when he mentioned he was thinking of a big life change. If she wanted to recouple the 2 versions wouldn’t she want him to stay in the company longer so she could continue to test and refine the process? We also know this entire thing was totally off book, she said she was trying something new with Ms. Casey so I’m not sure Lumon knew she wants to restore memories. Edit: She also goes to extreme lengths like removing the chip from a dead guy at his own funeral to try and learn more about reintegration. Relearning memories and restoring a dead person might be a rogue mission she’s on, or Lumon already knows she doesn’t.
yeah i was really conflicted on cobel’s character. the scene wherein gemma and mark do a wellness session and cobel’s subsequent unsatisfied demeanor was so confusing. like she does so much to try to rekindle mark’s memories along with urging him to leave yet in the end she does a 180. very odd
@@Jay84844 agreed I found Cobel's motivations changed between episodes 8 and 9 and I could not follow why. Which with this show it's hard to tell if its deliberate or just a plothole/ writing error.
@@Jay84844u clearly missed the point of her character. She clearly uses her Lumon position for her own personal gain. It's honestly one of the best writing I've encountered recently. It's so hard to read her character but it catches you in and makes it interesting. But anyway I think her personal reasons to be in Lumon and be some sort of a double-agent is as clear as day. She wasn't really making a 180 in the last episode, she just grabbed her chance to reintegrate with Lumon.
Because the two Marks she was working with were two different people. When the entire group of innie surfaced, that could damage the whole thing she's trying to do. I think her intension is to help people remember themselves but in order to do that some events couldn't and shouldn't happen.
One of the best shows I’ve seen in awhile. Where’s more original stories like this!? Instead we get sequels to content that has been dragged through decades…it’s maddening and I think I’d rather have the 2020’s severed from my mind! 🤪
Midnight Mass was pretty well done, and I gave up on theories for Raised by Wolves. I just started From after I finished this, and the first episode was pretty intriguing. Good luck.
I’m so glad you covered this show. I love your videos and this recap is the best. I remember Petey telling Mark what if I told you we/you are killing thousands of people. That coupled with Gemma’s death makes me wonder if there is something more to the numbers than capturing emotions in the chips…tested in military and now among civilians… mentioned in Lexington letter too. Irv was definitely reset many times and I’m afraid our 4 protagonists will be reset in season 2…in which case Mark’s sister will play a bigger role next season
@@heavyspoilers I’m glad you mentioned Lumen experimentation with young dead bodies as means to achieve immortality for the founders. I always thought immortality and power/control are the two over arching motives and drivers for Lumen and severance. If they can kill thousands and bring dead people back, then they can make themselves Gods/deities.
Lexington Letter all but confirms they're comfortable with murder + the ‘feelings’ associated with the numbers are also cryptically explained in the Lumon Handbook
Reminds me of the good place on Netflix… whole first season they spend figuring out they are trapped with a similar funny but sinister vibe. They are reset at the end of the season but in season 2 they find out quicker and quicker before being reset each time
Late to the party, but something I haven't seen anyone point out is the meaning of the name "Kier". It means "little dark one" and I think this was a deliberate choice by the writers to contrast with the name "Lumon". It seems to me that this was done to match the themes of light and darkness between the regular office, and the parts that are dark and kept in secret. Perhaps whatever secret they uncover involves the original founder which might tie in to the purpose of the company.
All season I’ve worried if the show could stick the landing with such an amazing concept. The finale came through beyond my greatest hopes. Unquestionably one of my Top-10 shows of all time.
Def one of the best shows so far this year. They knew a season 2 had to be already coming. There is NO WAY a show could end like THAT, and just end. Cannot wait for this show to return.
Yeah when certain big names are attached to series & they intend a S2 they'll get it. Stiller himself + who because of his parents gives that Hollywood pull w/ networks & production co's.
@@RL_Sin but I feel the show really isnt as popular as I thought t would be considering how good it is. I mean solely just looking on youtube for reviews and discussion of each episode you can tell ita not that popular of a show. The channels that do cover the show has relatively low subscriber and the only time those high subs channel do this is for the finale and the series as a whole. Which means only 1 video for the entire series. This show reminds me a lot of another underrated show, Counterpart, JK Simmons was in it, absolutely brilliant, but I remember watching it and there were 0 or maybe less than 3 channels discussing the show on RUclips. It got cancelled by after season 2, although they managed to do an ending to it. If you like severance youd probably like counterpart too.
Not really, they probably know about the show but just didnt want to do a video beause they know it's not a really popular show. There were only about 5 channels I think or 4 that consistently do videos on each episode and these high subs 100k over channels only do a video for the finale, because they know for a show that mot so popular the traffic is probably the highest at the last episode because of the season finale cliff hanger. These channels are very formulaic. They look at the most popular content and only do videos on that and will drop whatever show it is once they are that ita not getting a lot of attention and discussion. That's why they have such a high sub numbers, they know how to do contents that are popular. There was another 100k+ channel, that did only 1 vide of this show, a season recap/review with the title "....and season 2 oredictions" and about 1 min before the video ends which runs for almost 18mins, he says," as for season 2 prediction I leave it all up to you in the comments".
I am interested in learning more about Irving & how he got all that info! How’d he get access to it? How did he sneak it out? What was his real purpose? Maybe he used to be like Milchick & that’s why he knows about the testing floor and/or he’s been rebooted a couple times but clearly not completely because he remembers things.
Feels like there is a military connection with this technology as he mentioned in video. Irving’s only been there 3 years yet seems like he’s been severely punished to cause him to paint that hallway over and over.
Irving being previously like Milchick is mindblowing! He's definitely been down that long dark hallway to the testing floor elevator, prob numerous times. Only working at Lumon 3 years might be a clue that he's only been with MDR 3 yrs. The navy thing may or may not be a clue to PTSD or it's just where he hides + locks up those incriminating papers 😬
@@nunyanunya4964 Ooo maybe the chip gets old kinda like software needs upgrades, because unlike normal hardware, the chip resides inside the soft tissue of the brain and maybe deteriorates 🤔
This show is really good but Id you search for contents about the show, you'd find there isnt a lot of channels on youtube discussing the show, and the ones that do ha sless than 100k subs. And channels with high subs like this one only so 1 video and that is during the finale. This stuffs happen, counterpart a show i feel this reminds me a lot of was really good too, but you hardly see a y video about it while the show is running, not even to the end. It got canceled after season 2. If you like this , youd probably like counterpart too.
Intense not even the word to describe this episode bruh, brilliant finale to a brilliant season. My absolute favorite show I’ve seen in such a long time and I cannot wait for season 2. More people gotta get up on this show!
This series caught me by surprise. I was a bit underwhelmed for the first 3 episodes, then I was captivated by the characters and mystery of Lumon. Walker and Turturro were brilliant. Adam Scott played Mark perfectly. I can’t wait until season two.
Unfortunately though when it came to Lost it all ended up being under false pretense, but it was exciting as it was initially going on, when we figured the writers had solutions in mind, but it's not difficult to see that this show already knows the story it wants to tell, so I have no worries going forward. What Lost did is the most egregious thing a show has ever done to a fan base before. It's one thing if a show just ends up going down hill, the writing gets crappy and fails or whatever, but to build a bunch of what seem to be really cool mysteries, but they're not, because they have no solutions in mind, but if they continue dangling the carrot they'll keep you interested and by the time you find out that you were scammed it doesn't matter because they already got your ratings. I realized what they were doing I want to say sometime around the 3rd/4th season, but I couldn't believe that their were people who watched the show up until the finale' thinking they would get answers on the mystery elements (the human element is the only storyline that ultimately works). The show excelled in the area that the writers had in mind when they created the show. People stuck on an island in which each person has their own inner struggles to work out... also many of the people are spiritually connected if you will (soul mates, living multiple lives together)... and upon working through and fixing your inner struggles you move on (it's the whole Buddhist thing), but the network needed more, so that's where they forced the mystery element into the story which was the scam in between the human element.
It's been a long minute a show has giving me so much anticipation about what was happening like this one I love it, the confusion the innies feel I felt it too The show is fantastic
I agree with a lot of your points except one: the wellness session facts are actually all true. They may be said in a way that sounds false, but their literal translation is true.
@@heavyspoilers maybe they're pulling from their past selves before they became severed. Maybe Irving was a lover and the life of the party before his PTSD got worse or before he got reset several times before. What if Burt and him were lovers before the were severed? Maybe the people on his map were past friends? Or maybe he's been working with Petey. Petey was probably his real best friend. These wellness sessions could also test to see if the chips are working. That's why he loses points when he gets excited. He's been reset before like Ms. Casey. That's why Mark was sent to wellness to make sure his chip is still working to see if that candle triggered him or even Ms. Casey did. These wellness checks measures the chips integrity.
I think some of them are true and some aren't because the point of the wellness checks is to see if the chips are working and if some facts will trigger memories
My wife tells me I say this all the time about shows I watch but THIS SHOW is my most favorite show. I can’t get enough and want the next season now. It’s so good!
OMG! Severance is super intense!!! I am absolutely hooked up with it. Can't wait for Season 2, Mr Ben Stiller and the fellow producers. You guys created a great show! All of the actors are fantastic!
Guys, Casey's body is put on sleep mode, she went to a dark room (red arrow elevator) similar to what Irving was drawing in his paintings. There are 2 theories here, either Gemma didn't die, but I doubt that because I think they buried her, maybe Lumon faked it, or that's not actually Gemma it is a clone, and that's explain why they cant let her go outside and live her outtie's because she is dead, so they put her in sleep mode and trick her into thinking she has a life out there (she was asking Mr. Mel-chick about it). Although I don't like the idea that she is dead because that will break my heart 💔💔.
Happy to see you came back to this series. It’s been incredible. I think that they will all receive the “clean slate” chip option next episode in season 2 where they don’t have any memory of their Overtime night-trip. And they all start over again.
Did anyone ever address Helena's father directly onscreen? His voice almost echoes while her voice remains steady throughout the bathroom scene. Are we to believe that the acting CEO, also assuming he's the voice on the box, would be standing alone in the back of the room during the largest press conference in the company's history? I think we're being sixth-sensed or technoghosted. He even makes it apparent that this is the first time he's spoken to his daughter since her inny's attempted suicide.
@@FarnazWallace they are hijacking the brain with a chip. They’ve basically made a technological version of dissociative identity disorder. It’s not a far stretch to say that the chip can alter their visual and auditory centers giving the user hallucinations.
@@athleefitness3783 that makes sense … this was the first interaction/hallucination that innie Helly had with her father… so maybe her subconscious merging like Irv is experiencing with black goo and rest hall paintings
I completely agree. It's the best show, so far, of 2022. I hope the goats are not a polar bear, Please, Ben Stiller! I hope the second season is already written and the whole plot finished.
Severance has been one of my favourite shows in a long time! I was a massive fan of Lost. I loved that feeling of not knowing what was going on, but trying to reason it out and form theories. I've watched many shows since that have tried to capture that same air, but lacked the courage to really commit to it, so they failed. This is, I think, the first show since Lost that has given me that same reaction.
When Mark said the wrong name, I said outloud, "Oh no!" I thought Helly was maybe on the Board, so was taken by surprise when they revealed who she is.
The smart move for the company once the people were turned back to themselves is to prevent them from working there again. It would kill the portion of themselves that worked for the company thus they would have nothing to complain about….the company could say it was for downsizing. It broke my heart that part of Mark’s wife was still alive and a part of her enjoyed being with him…then for the company to take away her little bit of joy she had while awake. I think she needed more testing to wipe away any feelings she had around Mark. I think this is all a test to let rich people live forever in healthy bodies or people who recently died.
I can avoid videos that would spoil anything in case I haven't watched the show yet, even if RUclips keeps recommending them to me - if people do not put spoilers in the video title OR the thumbnail of the video - which spoiled things for me in this case.
I totally get your point and yes, it should of course be mentioned in the beginning of the vid that spoilers are ahead. But first of all, the literal name of the channel is "HEAVY SPOILERS". And the title says "Ending explained ... Episode 9 Review" (which probably refers to the last episode since it should explain the ending). Idk how someone could make it more obvious (without strictly saying so) that you will definitely get spoiled if not for those 2 points mate.
@@bofesn6918 I think you misunderstand me. It was the thumbnail that spoiled something quite important for me. I didn't even click on the video, RUclips just suggested it, hence showed me the thumbnail. That why I would prefer for the thumbnail not to contain spoilers, since I can't do anything to avoid seeing that.
@@TheSponkomat okay yeah you absolutely got me, I for real misunderstood you. In that case, yeah you are right, Thumbnail spoilers suck and I ran into those often enough already on my own. Appreciate you staying nice and friendly, sadly not _particularly_ usual for YT comments. Have a good one ^^
There's someone late at the party. I'm still trying to understand why Milchick should switch sides. Nothing, absolutely nothing in the series speaks for it. There is not a single point that speaks for it.
@@heavyspoilers I don’t have a theory but I think Lumen will somehow reset the minds of the three that got out. How they clean up the mess that was caused I am not sure!
For Irving, PTSD seems like the logical choice, right? It’s our default response when considering members of the military & the issues they may face, understandably. But what if Irving was a secret agent or assassin for the CIA. They don’t want him remembering the “jobs” he did. But also a thought 💭- what if discovering his homesexuality was an issue for either the military branch he served &/or against the Eagan plan? Is an attempted reprogramming of one’s sexuality on the “to do list” as well? There’s so many places it could go & a major part of what makes Severance so fascinating 🧐
I never hear people talk about how the outies basically throw away 8 hours of their life a day. Then they sleep for an average of 8 hrs let’s say. In essence the outie is only conscious for 1/3 of their actual life.
Another great analysis and thank you for picking up this heavily slept on show! That said, there’s another show YOU MUST WATCH and review. “From” on epix. From the creative minds of lost this show is gold and has losts to explore. Looking forward to your review cause I need help understanding what the heck is going on 😂
Thank you. I kinda gave up on it too. After watching the first episode I skipped through the next few then I decided to watch episode 5 and wait the week to see the following. I started to really enjoy it. Of course I went back and watched all of the previous episodes in full and absolutely love the 8th one. I loved loved it. :)
My wife and I find the show to be a slog and we joke about how slow it is but we can’t stop watching it. The actors are so committed. I think that’s what kept us invested. Once answers finally started coming we became committed as well.
I found it to be almost painfully slow at times, but I couldn't setup watching it either. Next season, I might wait until the whole season is out and then binge it in one go.
The show rarely went slow for me. I was entrenched from the start. The middle of the season lags a little bit. The Irving Burt storyline is the most dragging storyline especially on a re-watch. I don't think it drags because of this, but I think they liked the idea of getting a big name like Christopher Watkins more then getting a fitting casting for that role. At no point do I feel the chemistry between those two. Burt looks like a geriatric patient, whereas Irving looks to be a couple decades younger even though we're likely going to find out that he was born in the early 1900's, but maybe it's due to cloning, who knows. The Irving/Burt storyline is essential for Irvings story arc and snapping out him out of his obedience, but the execution was a little off is all. Also Marks Date/s with Alexa dragged on a little longer than necessary.
I found it funny because the 9 episodes IMHO went super fast plotwise, however I agree with you that sometimes it's painful to watch. Some scenes I completely skipped, almost all the ones with music in the background and useless stuff happening on the screen. Guess the writers forced their hands into the "metaphorical" stuff and also to some details that don't fit in a 1st season of a show, like almost all the Irving/Burt conversations that set up the scene for Irving to start questioning the whole thing, or the dates with Alexa that shows Mark is a regular guy, just with a recent trauma and a very weird job, but both take a lot more time than I felt was necessary. However, even disliking a few parts, thinking that a TV show is usually intended to be 3 seasons + long, I thought the plot moved pretty fast for 1 season, we already found out a lot to develop some plausible theories like their floor being just a big test of the chip and their innies (IDK if this is the corretly spelling lol) being on the outside for the first time. I think that what I liked the most that kept me watching even with this painfully slow moments are the clever ideas to put Mark's allegedly dead wife to work at Lumon and also having Helly to be an Eagan with heavy beliefs, just like her innie's, but on the opposite side. I mean... Wow! Talk about self sabotage hahaha
Trying to find a decent Sci-fi show that has a fresh premise is hard these days, while this show seems like an episode of black mirror turned into a series it does it very well by keeping everything simple while the acting and undertones are anything but simple and I really love that. I really enjoyed this show and glad I took a chance on watching it!
with season 2 i can't see Mark going back right away mainly because his sister knows a lot about everything now so she would probably force him to stay away. also he was thinking about leaving anyway so when he finds out all this knew information i would think he would be less likely to go back. there is his wife of course but i doubt his sister will have realised what he was yelling about so that probably won't be a factor. i'd guess at least in the Beginning of season 2 we will only see Mark on the outside and maybe he will be taking part in the protests we have seen.
I like to think that Irving was once in Milchik's position. His paintings all show the elevator lit up red, which only Milchik or the person leading someone there sees.
just finished it last night & WOW im glad I gave it a go! Ive not been this hyped over a show in such a long time! it kept me on the edge, thinking I know but then nope, then maybe then hell nah lol kept me engaged the whole way through & I can't wait for more!
Love your reviews, always adds to the experience of enjoying series and films. Looking forward to season 2 and love Patricia Arquette on the show...would be interesting if Ms Cobel was turned into an Innie.
Such a great season! I was on the edge of my seat the whole finale lbs. I am a little confused on the Gemma/Ms. Casey situation like if it’s Gemma how’d they get her body? why did they pick her? & if they just turn her off & on in the testing room why did she ask about her outie, would she even have one 🤔
Wonder if Gemma already worked for Lumen when she was killed? Did Mark allow Lumen to keep her alive? Or do employees agree to this piece when they sign on? So creepy.
she’s clearly some sort of zombie/un-dead experiment. And they are lying to her, I think she is in fact dead and has no outie. The question is, is she a clone? Or did they literally dig her body out of the grave, cover it up and start doing experiments on her inside lumon….pretty freaky shit when you think about it.
For Irving, PTSD seems like the logical choice, right? It’s our default response when considering members of the military & the issues they may face, understandably. But what if Irving was a secret agent or assassin for the CIA. They either don’t want him remembering the “jobs” he did. But also a thought 💭- what if discovering his homesexuality was an issue for either the military branch he served &/or against the Eagan plan? Is an attempted reprogramming of one’s sexuality on the “to do list” as well? There’s so many places it could go & a major part of what makes Severance so fascinating 🧐
If milchick thought Dylan got that card out of the building, that means the symbol detectors can’t pick up illustrations. And helly can draw. I’m surprised she didn’t draw something trying to get her outie to let her out.
That was a great season of tv. I’ve already signed up for the procedure just so I can make it till season 2. Wake my outtie up when the new season starts!
Here’s the issue with Marks motivation. He’s trying to get time where he doesn’t think about his wife passing but through severance, now he doesn’t get a break from it at all. Through work you can at least focus on other things that you have to do but since he’s always on the outside it’s nonstop. I guess you could say he’s getting a break by essentially taking away 1/3 of his life. But it doesn’t really make sense to me.
It makes perfect sense. If you've ever been in a really low place in your life, you look forward to sleep because you could check out for 6-8 hours where you don't have to feel anything and then you wake up and you're back to your miserable place and if you could you'd check out longer. So he's not taking a break from life persay, he's removing a portion of his painful everyday life. It's kind of like a partial suicide. After his wife died he tried to go back to work, but apparently it didn't go well. The severance process allows him to maintain a job and support himself as well. But if one in Marks mental state had a long term goal of getting better, this would be counter productive to healing, because that removes 8 of time that would bring one closer to healing, however most people in that state don't see the silver lining of eventual healing, they're too in the moment. Even his sister tells him, checking out 8 hours a day is not the same thing as heeling.
It makes sense to me. The thought of forgetting the tragic death of his wife 8 hours a day 5 or 6 days a week is what convinced him into going through severance. He will not remember it but he knows he won't be tormented by PTSD while he was in there, he was hoping he'll be happy or at least not depressed while he's at work. If only he knew he traded one torture to another.
Well his sister said he was a school teacher and that he was having breakdowns at school which obviously is not gonna work out very well. He’s not trying to get time where he doesn’t have to think of her…he just wants to be able to work a job without the pain of his wife’s death as a distraction. Get it???
The only reason I even watched Severance was because I saw you did a breakdown. I was like well shit if it’s worthy of a breakdown there’s got to be some juicy stuff in there. So glad I tuned in. Great breakdown as usual.
I'm not sure if I'm overthinking this but a clue that Mark will have his chip reformatted can be shown by the scene 18:44 where Cobel is staring at his neck. We know that from Petey's funeral she removed Petey's chip and they investigated this to learn about what he knew, it's likely that Cobel will get Lumon to study his chip when she's rehired. Something I'm confused about is why Selvig/Cobel was trying to convince Mark's outie that he should quit. At the book reading when they hug she really passionately convinces him to leave/get out (I can't remember the exact dialogue), but it's strange. First, I thought it was because she was mad at Lumon and wanted Mark to leave as a way to get back at them. But we see that she is still clearly very indoctrinated and a fighter who cares deeply about the Eagan ethos, so why did she say that? Also, I don't think you mentioned this, but something huge to look forward to in Season 2 is learning about Dylan's background. All we have seen from his outside life is that closet where Milchik interrogates him in and his son, and Milchik mentions in the final scene that Dylan also has 2 other children. Besides that, we don't really know anything about Dylan. Unlike the others, he is a family man raising children. Why did he chose to undergo the procedure? We know Irving and Mark are using it as a way to escape their lives, Helly is either doing it to uphold the Eagan plan (or to expose them), but Dylan? Although, there is a chance that maybe Dylan is just the average person that Lumon is trying to market the procedure to. Maybe he chose severance because it just seemed like an easy way to make money without having to actually work, and Lumon are clearly trying any angle to make the procedure seem as accessible and positive as possible. I'm really hyped to see what Season 2 has to bring, I hope there isn't a huge gap between now and its release date
I believe Cobell was initially sympathetic to Mark quitting because she knows what really happens down there, or at the very least, knows there’re being used for some unexplained purpose. When she discovers that Mark is really his innie version, she sees Mark as a threat to Lumon & perhaps more importantly their mission. She’s a true believer in the Keir doctrine as witnessed by her home shrine of the founder. The cult like elements really intrigued me and I believe there is much more to that than the show has let on so far. Also I believe Helly’s father makes a reference to her attending his “revolving” I believe he called it. My suspicion is that plays a part in what is actually going on in Lumon. Can’t wait for season 2.
I'm guessing Cobel was supportive of Mark getting out when she was still furious with Lumon (like, "yeah, you should get out - ditch those jerks!"). As soon as she saw a way back into Lumon, everything else was forgotten. Whether or not she is a true believer in the cult of Kier, she definitely has an ulterior motive for taking this job.
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ALOHAS and 38:39 Episode 2.... as he hits the BUS window...!!! hello Mr. KNight... i will be your TAXI DRIVERS... that was i nice PUNCH... my U TURNS... ARE yous TALKING ta ta TAAAA ME...!!! are yous TALKING TOOO MEEEEEE...meow
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Glad you gave the show another chance.
Can you do a video on the different overrides? I think elephant means they can remember everything, not sure about Glasgow…i think keir wants to control his daughter helly and replace her consciousness with his own eventually
I love your channel but can you please not include a “heavy spoiler” in the thumbnail itself? ❤️ this popped up in my recommended videos while I was only 3 episodes in. Still an amazing series, just wish I hadn’t seen the image of those two together.
I love the duality of the characters. Mark is severed because he wants to escape the wreck that killed his wife, only for his innie to work with her (at least until she was removed), Helena is severed to promote the severance program and how wonderful it is, while her innie rebels against it and expresses her dislike of the program, and Irving seems to be severed as a way to gain access inside Lumon and expose the company which may or may not be connected to his dad, while his innie was the biggest worshipper on the severed floor.
Agree with your takes except for Irv's motivations. Think he went to be severed to escape the pain of Burt leaving him for another partner. Tho the PTSD theory also possible. Yet to know Dylan's exact motivating factor, but oh boy, he's in for some brutal punishments + possibly a ‘Clean Slate’ wipe or whichever of those processes
Ironic
And Dylan is a mystery. He assumed the outside word was an apocalypse of awful and ocean but actually it’s warm av be he has a loving son. His arc went from devil may care lone wolf to family man inside and out.
I love how Irving was a heavy metal, fast car, screw the system, loose canon artist as an outie
I like this angle/perspective.
@@yay-cat He has 3 kids
“She’s Alive” was such a good ass final line
Then, a Final Elevator DING
actually it wasn't as good as it could have been should he had said "Gemma is alive!", because this way his sister may think he's referring to the baby
@@nicocba2007 That’s WHY it was a smart choice. If he would’ve yelled Gemma, everyone would’ve assumed he was having a breakdown of some kind over his wife, repeating to him, “Mark, she’s dead.” But by NOT identifying, most will probably assume he was referring to the baby. Which sucks for us, lol, but opens up him up to not being believed. Which moves the story forward.
And I’m sure they debated. “Does he say Gemma?” I think it was the smart choice. If he would’ve said Gemma, I think everyone at the party would’ve assumed he was having a breakdown over his wife that they all knew was dead (for all they know). They would be trying to convince him she was really dead, he would be arguing back looking even crazier. But by leaving it open to interpretation and it probably being about the baby to most people at the party, it just feels more like a chance for a great opening to season two.
@@nicocba2007 that would be true, if his sister was holding the baby in her arms already in the last shot
Hands down, Severance is one of the best new shows of 2022! Season 2 can’t come soon enough!
Not even just 2022 but the past few years in general
I hope they’ve already been filming. I also wish it was a whole season drop like Netflix vs weekly. But… I’ll still watch each week and then binge the final week 🥹
@@HeatherHolt Nah i think its better that we can't binge it because then all the cliffhangers are more dramatic and we get the chance to think about it more, which keeps us on edge more. But also if you did want to binge it you could just watch it all at the end when it all comes out.
When is season 2 supposed to come out?
Yea, I can barely watch TV shows these days. Also enjoyed The Expanse and Black Mirror. Have you seen Dark? Is it worth it?
Ms Cobel did nothing to stop Mark from telling his sister everything, including not taking their baby with her as leverage.
She only did what was necessary to convince Lumon to rehire her, so she can find the evidence she's looking for inside.
Yes there is a theory she is a pure Kier-ist and is just anti-Lumon, the company. Thus she does not mind the fuckarounds MDR pulls
@@arlentan I can see that. The board is busy monetizing Kier, while Cobel only wants to serve him.
I think she’ll end up working with the severed team next season to bring down Lumon. Would be awesome to see that
@@Meraxes6 either bring down the structure of Lumon, or take it over and remove the useless board.
If she tried to intervene in their conversation, Mark would've told his sister anyway, even through a fight with her. Besides, taking the baby isn't a smart move, since she could be arrested for kidnapping considering a lot of people had seen her there. She did the best she could at the given situation, notified who could solve the problem and tried to stop Helly from spilling things that could be harmful to Lumon.
Goats = cloning = Gemma/Ms Casey’s death. She was part of severance before she died. They cloned her dead body and put Ms Casey back in. But they didn’t restore Gemma. This is all laying the ground to bring the board members back. Also could be aligned to the soldier thing. Train a soldier once so he has the skills. Sever him - send him out to battle. He dies - just restore a severed copy and save the retraining cost. Plus they’d be ruthless killing machines with no memories/essentially no conscious.
Love that theory
yeah so thats why, milkchick said "the chip its working" means, gemma/Ms casey's as far we know on the movie is should be a tester from cobel to mark, just to make sure, "the chip planted into their head" and the system is working, since you know if mark outie seen the ms casey's should build an emotional or something, cause they were in accident , and they testing it for the innie
that's suppose to be a hearbreak full memory, but yeah the "thing" is working mark doesnt remember anything about gemma/casey
If that’s the case why would they constantly test to see whether they remember each other? Or are they only testing whether he remembers her?
Do you think they can grow the clone to the age she was when the wreck happened in a span of 2 years?
@@bs-hl2ir So you think they can selectively block one chunk of memories with a chip that can be controlled remotely? So yes - given the subject matter of the show - why not?
This show was so fricking good; the aesthetic, themes, acting, cast and mystery were all top notch IMO.
New theory the whole point of the severance floor is to test new ways to use the chips. I think the point of the numbers is to see if you can turn off a certain emotion that’s why the numbers make you feel something.!Picking random numbers helps them with knowing how to program the chips settings.
THIS IS SO SMART
That doesn’t work for me and here’s way… from what we can tell they’re only doing it with MDR. That’s only 4 people, all of whom are definitely over 35. You would need a much bigger test group. Also you only have one woman and one minority, again we need more subjects to establish a true pattern. While Helly has offended herself for severance, her inny would not but used for such a simple task. Just my thoughts
@@asant90 that’s fine. Either way it means the concept was over your head. Acting as the grammar police online is the usual excuse used when cornered.
@@asant90 wow. You were really triggered by an alternative HYPOTHESIS huh? So much so, that you made a giant connection with grammar in the RUclips COMMENTS to this user’s intelligence. Many brilliant people make mistakes typing out their thoughts simply because their mind moves quicker than their fingers/thumbs. Grammar mistakes in text also happen when a person edits their thought numerous times, & fails to change a word or two. That aside, based on your comment, it’s possible that a genius who speaks english as a second language, but struggle to write that language, “lacks credibility” as well right? I can keep going if you want. There are a lot of reasons grammar in text is NOT at all correlated with intelligence or credibility. I bet you’re smart enough to know that though. So we’ll just blame your ignorant comment on how obvious an emotional response it was. Over a TV show hypothesis. That literally no one (including the show runners) can possibly have credibility on. IT’S CLEARLY A WORK IN PROGRESS!
Think it probably has something to do with balancing the four tempers
16:40 Helena/Helly photo of her face is split in two = reference to severance.
I’ve rewatched the series three times now, and pick up more Easter eggs and hidden gems in plain sight each time. Excellent direction, production, screenplay, acting, and storytelling. Love this show!
I need to rewatch the series to find the things I've missed!
did you realize In episode 8 that when Dylan is flipping the switches, you can see ms Casey’s name on one of the screens and it’s not lit up like most of the other names hinting that she’s dead or a zombie experiment or something? there’s a few other names that aren’t lit up as well. Very strange.
@@dantepierre1948It’s got to be a link to the testing floor…she told Mark that she was only “hours” old, right? 😰
This Show Was Fantastic , One Of The Best Of 2022
Right.... because 3 full months makes a whole year. 🙄
@@ImRacistTowardsBlacks... So far. 😒
Better Call Saul will also be instantly 2022's best.
@@shoWbitz hell yeah Better Call Saul is mothafuckinnnn amaaaazingggg
What other shows did you like?
Come on man with that thumbnail, ruining it for everyone else if this appears in their suggested.
Had the privilege to meet Adam Scott during the filming of the show. They filmed in Beacon NY for parts of it but the last episode actually had a part where Ms.Cobel passes Irving at a dummy light and that was all filmed right in Beacon. Loved the show overall!!
Maybe they'll be back Lumon season 2 shoot is supposed to start this spring
Luck one!
I knew the show looked familiar - another reason it freaked me out in the best way. Loved it. The setting looked like NY/upstate
Severance accomplishes the difficult task of being a slow-burning, intriguing show all the way through, while also capitalizing in the final episode with several ENORMOUS payoffs for the viewer. Loved it. Really well done.
I think Irving started as a painter at Lumon. Maybe he painted both of those pictures that he saw of MDR attacking others and also the one in the hallway of the wellness session.
I don't think those attacks ever happened. Lumon is using those pictures to encourage mistrust between departments. Lumon doesn't want the departments to join forces together and start asking questions.
When would he have painted them? Would it have been his outtie? Before he was severed? Why would he paint pictures like that? It always thought it was one of the Eagans who painted them.
Definitely a possibility yes
I like this idea.
I think Irving has PTSD from serving in the military. His Innie and Outie experiences are seeping into each other.
One of the cleverest things in this, which very successfully (and inexplicably) gives me real feeling of uneasiness, creeps me out, is the nonsensical mismatching in decor and also tech.
Eg; they work at Lumen, a company renowned for its ground breaking modern technology, but then there is flip phones, cassette decks, fat back monitors... all mixed together.
And the decor, walking down a hallway with conference rooms spaced out on the right hand side, each subtly furnished in a different era 60s, 80s, 2000s etc
omg the retro tech is one of the best details - creating a weird wild alternate world
Maybe retro tech is easier to learn for the “newborn” severed employees? Maybe it’s to prevent hacking from competitors or saboteurs?
@@joshselkovits466 Definitely would prevent hacking - they're pre-internet computers
I'm probably wrong, but the outdated technology might be an indicator that the world of Severance is part of an alternate reality.
@@joshselkovits466 Heard it was to dissociate the innies as far as possible from the outside world. For 1 it's low-tech which means no communication to the outside, and also it helps put-off any possible reintegrating thoughts they might share with their Outie living in the modern world
I found it so fascinating that Gemma/Ms Casey is Mark’s wife who is actually alive. You know Severance is working when loving spouses don’t recognize each other. Opens possibilities as to what Lumen is up to. It’s an intriguing series.
Lumon
@@ManBeyondWorld Lumos
@@darthpapa696 Lavos
Her Outtie may not actually be alive (Which hits a new level of horror when dissected.)
yeah that's probably why they recruited Mark to the company
Please don’t put spoilers in your thumbnail. These just show up in peoples feed and spoil the show.
Dude screw off with these thumbnails spoiling major parts of the plot. I’m lucky I’ve already watched the whole show
The weirdest part of Ms. Cobel is she encouraged outtie Mark to quit when he mentioned he was thinking of a big life change. If she wanted to recouple the 2 versions wouldn’t she want him to stay in the company longer so she could continue to test and refine the process? We also know this entire thing was totally off book, she said she was trying something new with Ms. Casey so I’m not sure Lumon knew she wants to restore memories.
Edit: She also goes to extreme lengths like removing the chip from a dead guy at his own funeral to try and learn more about reintegration. Relearning memories and restoring a dead person might be a rogue mission she’s on, or Lumon already knows she doesn’t.
yeah i was really conflicted on cobel’s character. the scene wherein gemma and mark do a wellness session and cobel’s subsequent unsatisfied demeanor was so confusing. like she does so much to try to rekindle mark’s memories along with urging him to leave yet in the end she does a 180. very odd
@@Jay84844 agreed I found Cobel's motivations changed between episodes 8 and 9 and I could not follow why. Which with this show it's hard to tell if its deliberate or just a plothole/ writing error.
@@Jay84844u clearly missed the point of her character. She clearly uses her Lumon position for her own personal gain. It's honestly one of the best writing I've encountered recently. It's so hard to read her character but it catches you in and makes it interesting. But anyway I think her personal reasons to be in Lumon and be some sort of a double-agent is as clear as day. She wasn't really making a 180 in the last episode, she just grabbed her chance to reintegrate with Lumon.
Because the two Marks she was working with were two different people. When the entire group of innie surfaced, that could damage the whole thing she's trying to do. I think her intension is to help people remember themselves but in order to do that some events couldn't and shouldn't happen.
@@nguyennhi2408 good call yeah that makes sense, wish season 2 would drop already!
One of the best shows I’ve seen in awhile. Where’s more original stories like this!? Instead we get sequels to content that has been dragged through decades…it’s maddening and I think I’d rather have the 2020’s severed from my mind! 🤪
Couldn’t not agree more and so many shows that start off with some promise and then turn out to be terrible.
Midnight Mass was pretty well done, and I gave up on theories for Raised by Wolves. I just started From after I finished this, and the first episode was pretty intriguing. Good luck.
I’m so glad you covered this show. I love your videos and this recap is the best. I remember Petey telling Mark what if I told you we/you are killing thousands of people. That coupled with Gemma’s death makes me wonder if there is something more to the numbers than capturing emotions in the chips…tested in military and now among civilians… mentioned in Lexington letter too. Irv was definitely reset many times and I’m afraid our 4 protagonists will be reset in season 2…in which case Mark’s sister will play a bigger role next season
yeah agreed, shes pretty much gonna have to become the anchor for him on the outside
@@heavyspoilers I’m glad you mentioned Lumen experimentation with young dead bodies as means to achieve immortality for the founders. I always thought immortality and power/control are the two over arching motives and drivers for Lumen and severance. If they can kill thousands and bring dead people back, then they can make themselves Gods/deities.
well Marks sister is going to have a lot to tell him
Lexington Letter all but confirms they're comfortable with murder + the ‘feelings’ associated with the numbers are also cryptically explained in the Lumon Handbook
Reminds me of the good place on Netflix… whole first season they spend figuring out they are trapped with a similar funny but sinister vibe. They are reset at the end of the season but in season 2 they find out quicker and quicker before being reset each time
Late to the party, but something I haven't seen anyone point out is the meaning of the name "Kier". It means "little dark one" and I think this was a deliberate choice by the writers to contrast with the name "Lumon". It seems to me that this was done to match the themes of light and darkness between the regular office, and the parts that are dark and kept in secret. Perhaps whatever secret they uncover involves the original founder which might tie in to the purpose of the company.
Good catch.
All season I’ve worried if the show could stick the landing with such an amazing concept. The finale came through beyond my greatest hopes. Unquestionably one of my Top-10 shows of all time.
Def one of the best shows so far this year. They knew a season 2 had to be already coming. There is NO WAY a show could end like THAT, and just end. Cannot wait for this show to return.
Yeah when certain big names are attached to series & they intend a S2 they'll get it. Stiller himself + who because of his parents gives that Hollywood pull w/ networks & production co's.
@@RL_Sin but I feel the show really isnt as popular as I thought t would be considering how good it is. I mean solely just looking on youtube for reviews and discussion of each episode you can tell ita not that popular of a show. The channels that do cover the show has relatively low subscriber and the only time those high subs channel do this is for the finale and the series as a whole. Which means only 1 video for the entire series.
This show reminds me a lot of another underrated show, Counterpart, JK Simmons was in it, absolutely brilliant, but I remember watching it and there were 0 or maybe less than 3 channels discussing the show on RUclips. It got cancelled by after season 2, although they managed to do an ending to it.
If you like severance youd probably like counterpart too.
One of the most on edge finale episode I have ever watched.
I loveee this series
The finale is intense! I was on the edge of my seat the whole time.
A fantastic finale to the 1st season. I hope we don't have to wait too long for season 2. This is easily Apple's best TV show.
you jinxed it lol, and now the writers strike just delayed season 2 for even longer🙁
Yesss finally the bigger channels covering this hidden gem of a show!
Not really, they probably know about the show but just didnt want to do a video beause they know it's not a really popular show. There were only about 5 channels I think or 4 that consistently do videos on each episode and these high subs 100k over channels only do a video for the finale, because they know for a show that mot so popular the traffic is probably the highest at the last episode because of the season finale cliff hanger.
These channels are very formulaic. They look at the most popular content and only do videos on that and will drop whatever show it is once they are that ita not getting a lot of attention and discussion.
That's why they have such a high sub numbers, they know how to do contents that are popular.
There was another 100k+ channel, that did only 1 vide of this show, a season recap/review with the title "....and season 2 oredictions" and about 1 min before the video ends which runs for almost 18mins, he says," as for season 2 prediction I leave it all up to you in the comments".
I am interested in learning more about Irving & how he got all that info! How’d he get access to it? How did he sneak it out? What was his real purpose? Maybe he used to be like Milchick & that’s why he knows about the testing floor and/or he’s been rebooted a couple times but clearly not completely because he remembers things.
Feels like there is a military connection with this technology as he mentioned in video. Irving’s only been there 3 years yet seems like he’s been severely punished to cause him to paint that hallway over and over.
Irving being previously like Milchick is mindblowing! He's definitely been down that long dark hallway to the testing floor elevator, prob numerous times. Only working at Lumon 3 years might be a clue that he's only been with MDR 3 yrs. The navy thing may or may not be a clue to PTSD or it's just where he hides + locks up those incriminating papers 😬
@@alambster he also seems like the most brainwashed out of the innies, always reciting the handbook
He was writing notes about people aging out of Lumen. I wonder if age degrades the separation that the chip causes?
@@nunyanunya4964 Ooo maybe the chip gets old kinda like software needs upgrades, because unlike normal hardware, the chip resides inside the soft tissue of the brain and maybe deteriorates 🤔
Just here to say whoa, the thumbnail is maaajor spoilers I don’t think thats cool for those who haven’t watched or finished yet
Severance is a wonderful new series, and if Apple keeps this up, they’ll be one of the top streaming provider.
This show is really good but Id you search for contents about the show, you'd find there isnt a lot of channels on youtube discussing the show, and the ones that do ha sless than 100k subs. And channels with high subs like this one only so 1 video and that is during the finale. This stuffs happen, counterpart a show i feel this reminds me a lot of was really good too, but you hardly see a y video about it while the show is running, not even to the end. It got canceled after season 2.
If you like this , youd probably like counterpart too.
I could be wrong…but they just became the first streaming service to win Best Picture at the Oscars as well with CODA
This show is brilliant.
Intense not even the word to describe this episode bruh, brilliant finale to a brilliant season. My absolute favorite show I’ve seen in such a long time and I cannot wait for season 2. More people gotta get up on this show!
yeah hopefully it gets a lot of word of mouth as it deserves it
I agree, I was holding my breath in every scene in this episode.
Really does take the whole “trapped inside your mind” feel to a whole new level.
I felt trapped inside my own mind at the end of each episode. Had to go outside to re-orient myself. Pretty effective storytelling
I wonder if Cobell’s words to Helly just before her speech were intended not to stop Helly, but to make her angrier and more determined.
This series caught me by surprise. I was a bit underwhelmed for the first 3 episodes, then I was captivated by the characters and mystery of Lumon. Walker and Turturro were brilliant. Adam Scott played Mark perfectly. I can’t wait until season two.
Great show. Terrible to put heavy spoilers in your thumbnail though. Come on.
I'm so upset how it ended (in a good way). Reminds me of how I felt after a Lost season finale. This show is fascinating.
Unfortunately though when it came to Lost it all ended up being under false pretense, but it was exciting as it was initially going on, when we figured the writers had solutions in mind, but it's not difficult to see that this show already knows the story it wants to tell, so I have no worries going forward. What Lost did is the most egregious thing a show has ever done to a fan base before. It's one thing if a show just ends up going down hill, the writing gets crappy and fails or whatever, but to build a bunch of what seem to be really cool mysteries, but they're not, because they have no solutions in mind, but if they continue dangling the carrot they'll keep you interested and by the time you find out that you were scammed it doesn't matter because they already got your ratings. I realized what they were doing I want to say sometime around the 3rd/4th season, but I couldn't believe that their were people who watched the show up until the finale' thinking they would get answers on the mystery elements (the human element is the only storyline that ultimately works). The show excelled in the area that the writers had in mind when they created the show. People stuck on an island in which each person has their own inner struggles to work out... also many of the people are spiritually connected if you will (soul mates, living multiple lives together)... and upon working through and fixing your inner struggles you move on (it's the whole Buddhist thing), but the network needed more, so that's where they forced the mystery element into the story which was the scam in between the human element.
It's been a long minute a show has giving me so much anticipation about what was happening like this one
I love it, the confusion the innies feel I felt it too
The show is fantastic
I agree with a lot of your points except one: the wellness session facts are actually all true. They may be said in a way that sounds false, but their literal translation is true.
Did they not say Irving is great at love making though and that he had many friends or something?
@@heavyspoilers maybe they're pulling from their past selves before they became severed. Maybe Irving was a lover and the life of the party before his PTSD got worse or before he got reset several times before. What if Burt and him were lovers before the were severed? Maybe the people on his map were past friends? Or maybe he's been working with Petey. Petey was probably his real best friend. These wellness sessions could also test to see if the chips are working. That's why he loses points when he gets excited. He's been reset before like Ms. Casey. That's why Mark was sent to wellness to make sure his chip is still working to see if that candle triggered him or even Ms. Casey did. These wellness checks measures the chips integrity.
I think some of them are true and some aren't because the point of the wellness checks is to see if the chips are working and if some facts will trigger memories
My wife tells me I say this all the time about shows I watch but THIS SHOW is my most favorite show. I can’t get enough and want the next season now. It’s so good!
I’m here to say it first. The Overtime Contingency was allowed to happen by lumon. And Irving has been one more than one of these overtime missions. 💯
OMG! Severance is super intense!!! I am absolutely hooked up with it. Can't wait for Season 2, Mr Ben Stiller and the fellow producers. You guys created a great show! All of the actors are fantastic!
Helena: "maybe keep your eyes on the icey road??"
Me: "maybe get tf outta my way??"
They are not getting rid of Milchick. He's too iconic.
Guys, Casey's body is put on sleep mode, she went to a dark room (red arrow elevator) similar to what Irving was drawing in his paintings. There are 2 theories here, either Gemma didn't die, but I doubt that because I think they buried her, maybe Lumon faked it, or that's not actually Gemma it is a clone, and that's explain why they cant let her go outside and live her outtie's because she is dead, so they put her in sleep mode and trick her into thinking she has a life out there (she was asking Mr. Mel-chick about it). Although I don't like the idea that she is dead because that will break my heart 💔💔.
Happy to see you came back to this series. It’s been incredible. I think that they will all receive the “clean slate” chip option next episode in season 2 where they don’t have any memory of their Overtime night-trip. And they all start over again.
Did anyone ever address Helena's father directly onscreen? His voice almost echoes while her voice remains steady throughout the bathroom scene. Are we to believe that the acting CEO, also assuming he's the voice on the box, would be standing alone in the back of the room during the largest press conference in the company's history? I think we're being sixth-sensed or technoghosted. He even makes it apparent that this is the first time he's spoken to his daughter since her inny's attempted suicide.
I was thinking that he died too and brought back to life like Ms Casey … he was too robotic… but technoghost theory makes sense too
@@FarnazWallace they are hijacking the brain with a chip. They’ve basically made a technological version of dissociative identity disorder. It’s not a far stretch to say that the chip can alter their visual and auditory centers giving the user hallucinations.
@@athleefitness3783 that makes sense … this was the first interaction/hallucination that innie Helly had with her father… so maybe her subconscious merging like Irv is experiencing with black goo and rest hall paintings
Bro you gotta chill with the spoilers in the thumb nails. That picture is a pretty big plot point.
“Keep..keep on truckin’”
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I completely agree. It's the best show, so far, of 2022. I hope the goats are not a polar bear, Please, Ben Stiller! I hope the second season is already written and the whole plot finished.
Idk, it's at least 2nd, right behind Raised by Wolves
so glad you made a video about it, it’s an amazing show! all the good reviews coming out are getting more people to watch it which is great
Irv is a gatekeeper.
He operated that elevator.
You can only see that red light above it when the elevator is activated, not from inside it.
Severance has been one of my favourite shows in a long time! I was a massive fan of Lost. I loved that feeling of not knowing what was going on, but trying to reason it out and form theories. I've watched many shows since that have tried to capture that same air, but lacked the courage to really commit to it, so they failed. This is, I think, the first show since Lost that has given me that same reaction.
Great show and amazing finale! I literally gasped at the Helly reveal, almost as big a gasp at who Mark's was.😱
When Mark said the wrong name, I said outloud, "Oh no!" I thought Helly was maybe on the Board, so was taken by surprise when they revealed who she is.
This is the best show I ever seen since Dark
Finally! Hoping you were going to cover this season. Please do episode recaps in S2!
You're my favourite recap/breakdown channel. Consistent, good content, easy to listen to. ⭐⭐⭐⭐
The smart move for the company once the people were turned back to themselves is to prevent them from working there again. It would kill the portion of themselves that worked for the company thus they would have nothing to complain about….the company could say it was for downsizing. It broke my heart that part of Mark’s wife was still alive and a part of her enjoyed being with him…then for the company to take away her little bit of joy she had while awake. I think she needed more testing to wipe away any feelings she had around Mark. I think this is all a test to let rich people live forever in healthy bodies or people who recently died.
I can avoid videos that would spoil anything in case I haven't watched the show yet, even if RUclips keeps recommending them to me - if people do not put spoilers in the video title OR the thumbnail of the video - which spoiled things for me in this case.
I totally get your point and yes, it should of course be mentioned in the beginning of the vid that spoilers are ahead.
But first of all, the literal name of the channel is "HEAVY SPOILERS".
And the title says "Ending explained ... Episode 9 Review" (which probably refers to the last episode since it should explain the ending).
Idk how someone could make it more obvious (without strictly saying so) that you will definitely get spoiled if not for those 2 points mate.
@@bofesn6918 I think you misunderstand me. It was the thumbnail that spoiled something quite important for me. I didn't even click on the video, RUclips just suggested it, hence showed me the thumbnail. That why I would prefer for the thumbnail not to contain spoilers, since I can't do anything to avoid seeing that.
@@TheSponkomat okay yeah you absolutely got me, I for real misunderstood you. In that case, yeah you are right, Thumbnail spoilers suck and I ran into those often enough already on my own. Appreciate you staying nice and friendly, sadly not _particularly_ usual for YT comments. Have a good one ^^
@@bofesn6918 Isn't it a bit sad that you feel the need to thank me just for acting like a normal human being? ;-) But yeah, you're welcome.
thank you so much for making this video!! love hearing your perspective on this incredible show.
There's someone late at the party.
I'm still trying to understand why Milchick should switch sides. Nothing, absolutely nothing in the series speaks for it. There is not a single point that speaks for it.
Didn’t Milchick did leave Devon’s book in the conference room? maybe he wanted it found?
Paul!!!!! I loved this show. I’m so glad you are doing a breakdown.
Thanks Nikki, hope you enjoy it
@@heavyspoilers I don’t have a theory but I think Lumen will somehow reset the minds of the three that got out. How they clean up the mess that was caused I am not sure!
For Irving, PTSD seems like the logical choice, right? It’s our default response when considering members of the military & the issues they may face, understandably.
But what if Irving was a secret agent or assassin for the CIA. They don’t want him remembering the “jobs” he did.
But also a thought 💭- what if discovering his homesexuality was an issue for either the military branch he served &/or against the Eagan plan?
Is an attempted reprogramming of one’s sexuality on the “to do list” as well?
There’s so many places it could go & a major part of what makes Severance so fascinating 🧐
@@sight.reading Great question!!!
Just binged all episodes today. I was blown away by this show. Kept me guessing til the end and still not sure what all is going on.
I never hear people talk about how the outies basically throw away 8 hours of their life a day. Then they sleep for an average of 8 hrs let’s say. In essence the outie is only conscious for 1/3 of their actual life.
That's pretty much it. But if you hate your job or boss it helps.
Another great analysis and thank you for picking up this heavily slept on show! That said, there’s another show YOU MUST WATCH and review. “From” on epix. From the creative minds of lost this show is gold and has losts to explore. Looking forward to your review cause I need help understanding what the heck is going on 😂
Thank you. I kinda gave up on it too. After watching the first episode I skipped through the next few then I decided to watch episode 5 and wait the week to see the following. I started to really enjoy it. Of course I went back and watched all of the previous episodes in full and absolutely love the 8th one. I loved loved it. :)
My wife and I find the show to be a slog and we joke about how slow it is but we can’t stop watching it. The actors are so committed. I think that’s what kept us invested. Once answers finally started coming we became committed as well.
It really is ramp up from beginning to end
I found it to be almost painfully slow at times, but I couldn't setup watching it either. Next season, I might wait until the whole season is out and then binge it in one go.
@@jimdoom2276 while I appreciated the steady pace of the show, it’s definitely more entertaining as a binge watch.
The show rarely went slow for me. I was entrenched from the start. The middle of the season lags a little bit. The Irving Burt storyline is the most dragging storyline especially on a re-watch. I don't think it drags because of this, but I think they liked the idea of getting a big name like Christopher Watkins more then getting a fitting casting for that role. At no point do I feel the chemistry between those two. Burt looks like a geriatric patient, whereas Irving looks to be a couple decades younger even though we're likely going to find out that he was born in the early 1900's, but maybe it's due to cloning, who knows. The Irving/Burt storyline is essential for Irvings story arc and snapping out him out of his obedience, but the execution was a little off is all. Also Marks Date/s with Alexa dragged on a little longer than necessary.
I found it funny because the 9 episodes IMHO went super fast plotwise, however I agree with you that sometimes it's painful to watch. Some scenes I completely skipped, almost all the ones with music in the background and useless stuff happening on the screen. Guess the writers forced their hands into the "metaphorical" stuff and also to some details that don't fit in a 1st season of a show, like almost all the Irving/Burt conversations that set up the scene for Irving to start questioning the whole thing, or the dates with Alexa that shows Mark is a regular guy, just with a recent trauma and a very weird job, but both take a lot more time than I felt was necessary.
However, even disliking a few parts, thinking that a TV show is usually intended to be 3 seasons + long, I thought the plot moved pretty fast for 1 season, we already found out a lot to develop some plausible theories like their floor being just a big test of the chip and their innies (IDK if this is the corretly spelling lol) being on the outside for the first time. I think that what I liked the most that kept me watching even with this painfully slow moments are the clever ideas to put Mark's allegedly dead wife to work at Lumon and also having Helly to be an Eagan with heavy beliefs, just like her innie's, but on the opposite side. I mean... Wow! Talk about self sabotage hahaha
Yay I’m so glad you posted this
I hope season 2 continues to be this strong despite the long break. This show is AMAZING!
Trying to find a decent Sci-fi show that has a fresh premise is hard these days, while this show seems like an episode of black mirror turned into a series it does it very well by keeping everything simple while the acting and undertones are anything but simple and I really love that. I really enjoyed this show and glad I took a chance on watching it!
From on Epix is the best show of the year
Irving found the key. Sleep deprivation. 🤫 selvig told mark that the saints blesses the ones who get their sleep. 🤫
Didn’t know you were gonna do a review for Severance. But I’m glad you did it’s a fantastic series lot of twists in the story.
with season 2 i can't see Mark going back right away mainly because his sister knows a lot about everything now so she would probably force him to stay away. also he was thinking about leaving anyway so when he finds out all this knew information i would think he would be less likely to go back. there is his wife of course but i doubt his sister will have realised what he was yelling about so that probably won't be a factor. i'd guess at least in the Beginning of season 2 we will only see Mark on the outside and maybe he will be taking part in the protests we have seen.
The acting is ridiculously immaculate
Great review, absolutely loved this show and particularly the last episode.
I like to think that Irving was once in Milchik's position. His paintings all show the elevator lit up red, which only Milchik or the person leading someone there sees.
THANK YOU FOR FINALLY COVERING THIS! This is a PHENOMENAL show!!!
Paul you are a god amongst men I’ve been dying for you to do some sort of breakdown for this show! You rock!
Thanks Maria, much appreciated
just finished it last night & WOW im glad I gave it a go! Ive not been this hyped over a show in such a long time! it kept me on the edge, thinking I know but then nope, then maybe then hell nah lol kept me engaged the whole way through & I can't wait for more!
I can't believe you did a video on this and I didn't see it! The algorithm has failed me
Love your reviews, always adds to the experience of enjoying series and films. Looking forward to season 2 and love Patricia Arquette on the show...would be interesting if Ms Cobel was turned into an Innie.
Definitely the best show of 22. We are very fortunate to be spoiled with such high quality sci-fi
Such a great season! I was on the edge of my seat the whole finale lbs. I am a little confused on the Gemma/Ms. Casey situation like if it’s Gemma how’d they get her body? why did they pick her? & if they just turn her off & on in the testing room why did she ask about her outie, would she even have one 🤔
Wonder if Gemma already worked for Lumen when she was killed? Did Mark allow Lumen to keep her alive? Or do employees agree to this piece when they sign on? So creepy.
she’s clearly some sort of zombie/un-dead experiment. And they are lying to her, I think she is in fact dead and has no outie. The question is, is she a clone? Or did they literally dig her body out of the grave, cover it up and start doing experiments on her inside lumon….pretty freaky shit when you think about it.
great review! Such a great series!
One of the best storyline/series I've ever seen. It's absolutely amazing. Can't wait for S2
For Irving, PTSD seems like the logical choice, right? It’s our default response when considering members of the military & the issues they may face, understandably.
But what if Irving was a secret agent or assassin for the CIA. They either don’t want him remembering the “jobs” he did.
But also a thought 💭- what if discovering his homesexuality was an issue for either the military branch he served &/or against the Eagan plan?
Is an attempted reprogramming of one’s sexuality on the “to do list” as well?
There’s so many places it could go & a major part of what makes Severance so fascinating 🧐
If milchick thought Dylan got that card out of the building, that means the symbol detectors can’t pick up illustrations. And helly can draw. I’m surprised she didn’t draw something trying to get her outie to let her out.
Appreciate the suggestion to watch. Hadn't heard of it will now take a look.
Absolutely love this show!!
Went in with zero expectations and now I'm hoping the "Innie" gang retain their memories come season 2
That was a great season of tv. I’ve already signed up for the procedure just so I can make it till season 2. Wake my outtie up when the new season starts!
😂😂
Hope season 2 maintains the same quality, and doesn't nose dive like so many other shows (Westworld...).
Such a great show, there's quite a bit of good stuff coming out of apple tv right now
Here’s the issue with Marks motivation. He’s trying to get time where he doesn’t think about his wife passing but through severance, now he doesn’t get a break from it at all. Through work you can at least focus on other things that you have to do but since he’s always on the outside it’s nonstop. I guess you could say he’s getting a break by essentially taking away 1/3 of his life. But it doesn’t really make sense to me.
It makes perfect sense. If you've ever been in a really low place in your life, you look forward to sleep because you could check out for 6-8 hours where you don't have to feel anything and then you wake up and you're back to your miserable place and if you could you'd check out longer. So he's not taking a break from life persay, he's removing a portion of his painful everyday life. It's kind of like a partial suicide. After his wife died he tried to go back to work, but apparently it didn't go well. The severance process allows him to maintain a job and support himself as well. But if one in Marks mental state had a long term goal of getting better, this would be counter productive to healing, because that removes 8 of time that would bring one closer to healing, however most people in that state don't see the silver lining of eventual healing, they're too in the moment. Even his sister tells him, checking out 8 hours a day is not the same thing as heeling.
It makes sense to me. The thought of forgetting the tragic death of his wife 8 hours a day 5 or 6 days a week is what convinced him into going through severance. He will not remember it but he knows he won't be tormented by PTSD while he was in there, he was hoping he'll be happy or at least not depressed while he's at work. If only he knew he traded one torture to another.
Well his sister said he was a school teacher and that he was having breakdowns at school which obviously is not gonna work out very well. He’s not trying to get time where he doesn’t have to think of her…he just wants to be able to work a job without the pain of his wife’s death as a distraction. Get it???
The Molly-Mae clip when talking about working 🤣
The only reason I even watched Severance was because I saw you did a breakdown. I was like well shit if it’s worthy of a breakdown there’s got to be some juicy stuff in there. So glad I tuned in. Great breakdown as usual.
Lumon can designate “severed” locations. It doesn’t necessarily have to be the “severed” floor at Lumon.
PLEASE DO MORE NON-COMIC CONTENT LIKE THIS 😩 it’s so saturated and shows like this get barely any coverage!
I'm not sure if I'm overthinking this but a clue that Mark will have his chip reformatted can be shown by the scene 18:44 where Cobel is staring at his neck. We know that from Petey's funeral she removed Petey's chip and they investigated this to learn about what he knew, it's likely that Cobel will get Lumon to study his chip when she's rehired.
Something I'm confused about is why Selvig/Cobel was trying to convince Mark's outie that he should quit. At the book reading when they hug she really passionately convinces him to leave/get out (I can't remember the exact dialogue), but it's strange. First, I thought it was because she was mad at Lumon and wanted Mark to leave as a way to get back at them. But we see that she is still clearly very indoctrinated and a fighter who cares deeply about the Eagan ethos, so why did she say that?
Also, I don't think you mentioned this, but something huge to look forward to in Season 2 is learning about Dylan's background. All we have seen from his outside life is that closet where Milchik interrogates him in and his son, and Milchik mentions in the final scene that Dylan also has 2 other children. Besides that, we don't really know anything about Dylan. Unlike the others, he is a family man raising children. Why did he chose to undergo the procedure? We know Irving and Mark are using it as a way to escape their lives, Helly is either doing it to uphold the Eagan plan (or to expose them), but Dylan? Although, there is a chance that maybe Dylan is just the average person that Lumon is trying to market the procedure to. Maybe he chose severance because it just seemed like an easy way to make money without having to actually work, and Lumon are clearly trying any angle to make the procedure seem as accessible and positive as possible.
I'm really hyped to see what Season 2 has to bring, I hope there isn't a huge gap between now and its release date
I believe Cobell was initially sympathetic to Mark quitting because she knows what really happens down there, or at the very least, knows there’re being used for some unexplained purpose. When she discovers that Mark is really his innie version, she sees Mark as a threat to Lumon & perhaps more importantly their mission. She’s a true believer in the Keir doctrine as witnessed by her home shrine of the founder. The cult like elements really intrigued me and I believe there is much more to that than the show has let on so far. Also I believe Helly’s father makes a reference to her attending his “revolving” I believe he called it. My suspicion is that plays a part in what is actually going on in Lumon. Can’t wait for season 2.
I think Cobel truly cares about Mark and knows quitting his job would be best for him.
I'm guessing Cobel was supportive of Mark getting out when she was still furious with Lumon (like, "yeah, you should get out - ditch those jerks!"). As soon as she saw a way back into Lumon, everything else was forgotten. Whether or not she is a true believer in the cult of Kier, she definitely has an ulterior motive for taking this job.
Definitely an amazing season!! Can’t wait for season 2!