There's no way this video is representative of the 4K version (and possibility not even of the DVD version, and no, that's not to imply it's deliberate by the channel owner.
I'm curious if the brighter shots were the way that John Carpenter intended them or not. There is a whole video about the Buffy HD release and how the new processing of the footage changed the mood of some scenes or changed shots that were intended to be "day for night" into just straight daylight shots. Maybe some of those darker shots are the way that the filmmaker wanted them to look?
The Thing has been my favorite movie since I was 10 years old. To me, the most exciting thing about its modern restorations is the way that the film's Green tones were brought back to life. Just check out the way the color of the fuel tanks on Mac's back pop at 13:10. WOW. Also if you want the most special features, I do think it would be worth it for you to grab the Shout blu. I say this because even though that scan of the movie was kind of made obsolete, and the later 4Ks all use the 2018 Arrow Video one which lacked the motion-smearing and minor color issues of the SF blu, the SF is still worth having as it has a handful of exclusive extras - such as the movie's Radio Promos!
I have the arrow video blu-ray and love it! Has a 4.1 audio mix and looks perfect. It’s a shame the 4ks do not have the original audio on any of the discs. I’ve heard the laserdisc from the universal collectors series sounds the best and has an exclusive extended audio commentary where they talk during the space between the side flips of the disc and the start of the next side
This is a movie that deserves a deep dive into the digital home video releases. The Blu-ray had some controversy over grading changes, as well as special features. A 4way comparison video would be fantastic.
I first saw the thing at University in the early 1980s. It is a wonderful films from one of my favourite directors. I have owned the thing in multiple formats including Laserdisc, VHS, DVD, Blu-ray and Different versions. -my go to edition is Studio Canal 4K special edition. I have got over a thousand DVDs, I have recently had a look at them and was quite impressed - great packaging and menus. There are also a lot of films etc that are on DVD but have no Blu-ray or 4Ks - an example of this is Buffy the vampire slayer that has no got a Blu-ray upgrade - I can live with DVD box sets though. Thanks foe a great episode.😅😅🎉🎉
Was lucky enough to have gone from recorded off tv to legitimate vhs, Dvd, Laserdisc (3 different releases including Signature) bluray (but not Shout, I don't think) and now 4k. Love it no matter the format, but 4k has brought delight in its clarity.
I have the Thing on DVD and Blu ray and I’m happy sticking to that (I find a lot of films pre-2007 ish look better upscaled on DVD or through my widescreen CRT. The DVD of the Thing is a great example of a single disc release with tons of extras though. Most films with that many used 2 discs but the amount of content squeezed onto the early 2000s release is insane!
I know screen shots dont come across exactly the same on RUclips but, your 4k looks like it has a 'cooler' colour grade to how my 4k looks. Try a warmer setting on your tv and it should help the look of the blue snow you're seeing.
I wasn’t too upset at the coloring, and I think it looked more blue after I processed it. The thing is, I didn’t notice how blue it was until I did the side by side so it’s not biggie lol.
Owning The Thing on VHS, LaserDisc, DVD, and BluRay. I personally have not gone up to 4K to 99% of my movie collection. I have not seen a need to do so. However, this comparison is appreciated. I will be ordering this version today. Thanks for the vid.
I think the darkness in the DVD is visually more appealing and truer to life. Everything is brighter in the 4K, but has a horrible blue filter overlaid onto it in the day time shots.
I’d suggest the correct image is somewhere in the middle, a little more toward the DVD. The 4K looks as flat as an iPhone with all the shadows raised. And the nasty blue cast in the snow scenes is unforgivable. That footage is shot on daylight stock, and should look naturally warm, but it’s like they did the classic “cold must be blue” grading on the 4K. Looks garbage.
The thing to consider is, these are just reference captures they’ll look different on your tv, but I think there is a healthy middle ground. I’d like to compare the vhs and Bluray and have all 4 to compare.
I would say the DVD here looks better, the dark in the 4K seems fake and digital and the days washed. Instead, the DVD feels real. It is a problem for me with a lot of 4K releases.
The Thing is absolutely Awesome. favorite scene - "You Gotta Be F**kin' Kidding". honestly now im super curious what the blu ray looks like compared to these formats. At 9:10 I actually like the DVD more. The 4k as you mentioned is doing something weird. thanks for the video
Got the blu ray by shout. I can't afford to upgrade everything. Btw one of my first DVDs I bought on my own. It does force zoom on my sony 4k and Blu ray players even though it's non anamorphic.
I like the idea of comparing 4k to DVD but I don't think that you can give viewers a realistic idea about the differences the way you captured 4k content. As you said yourself, it doesn't look the same as on your TV - or on mine for what it's worth. I think the "4k content" looks way off here, it's actually a really stunning disc. Keep going man, but please help the cause by trying to capture accurate colours, brightness and sharpness (like HDNumerique, they're doing fantastic work). Cheers 🌞 Edit: after watching a bit more I think I can tell you took pictures of your TV, probably with a phone or at least camera that really isn't suited for capturing such content. Someone in the comments wrote it looks flat like an iPhone, I think it's even way worse than that, as entire movies and professional content are shot with iphones these days. No hate bro, but people, don't trust your eyes on this comparison.
I planning to show my friend the Thing on Blu ray. It’ll be his first time I wanna make and eat spaghetti while watching it. Easily John Carpenters best
Trying to get new people to watch old films by showing them 4K versions of these types off movies is giving them them a skewed perspective, one that wasn’t the original directors intention. Seeing this movie all bright and overly lit totally changes the mood and the feel of The Thing. We weren’t supposed to see everything in clear crystal clarity. There’s a reason there are award winning lighting men and cinematographers who work in the movie industry, their work sets the style and unique vision of the director. Seeing too much kills the scene. Shows too much of the animatronics. Reveals set and prop flaws. I saw this movie in the theatre and it was a dark movie and it was all the better for it. The whole premise relies on something lurking in the shadows. I can’t speak for John Carpenter, but I’d put good money down on him saying he’s not a fan of the 4K filters and brightening of his film. I think the people who worked on the 4K release have made a classic film look cheap and tacky.
Snow should be white.... The DVD is a better look. The DVD looks more like it was in the theater... It was a "dark" looking film. So the 4K kills that.
You can prefer what you want, but 4K UHD as a format has a better resolution, bit rate capacity, frame rate capacity, etc. I buy VHS, I'm not a quality snob, but "far superior" is hilarious.
I am a simple man, I see The Thing content, I instantly click.
Same!
Same here lol
Just stumbled across this video, cool channel! You're tapping into algorithms now, so keep it up
I honestly like the darkness of the DVD better. The dog scene in particular is more scary when you can’t see every detail.
There's no way this video is representative of the 4K version (and possibility not even of the DVD version, and no, that's not to imply it's deliberate by the channel owner.
I don’t remember my 4k being that bright I may have to rewatch
I'm curious if the brighter shots were the way that John Carpenter intended them or not. There is a whole video about the Buffy HD release and how the new processing of the footage changed the mood of some scenes or changed shots that were intended to be "day for night" into just straight daylight shots. Maybe some of those darker shots are the way that the filmmaker wanted them to look?
Indeed. The 4K here looks like a Netflix movie. Artificial.
The Thing and the Lost Boys are probably the best looking 4k’s I own. Followed closely by Ghost Busters 1 & 2.
That’s good to know, I have all those on 4k and love them, also thought they looked great.
If you haven't already, get the 4k of Elm Street, it looks great
The dvd has more warmth from what you captured, I think a good balance would be the warmer colours of the dvd with the clarity of the 4k.
The Thing has been my favorite movie since I was 10 years old. To me, the most exciting thing about its modern restorations is the way that the film's Green tones were brought back to life. Just check out the way the color of the fuel tanks on Mac's back pop at 13:10. WOW.
Also if you want the most special features, I do think it would be worth it for you to grab the Shout blu. I say this because even though that scan of the movie was kind of made obsolete, and the later 4Ks all use the 2018 Arrow Video one which lacked the motion-smearing and minor color issues of the SF blu, the SF is still worth having as it has a handful of exclusive extras - such as the movie's Radio Promos!
Yeah I agree, the green during the chess scene, and during the spider head also looked excellent.
I have the arrow video blu-ray and love it! Has a 4.1 audio mix and looks perfect. It’s a shame the 4ks do not have the original audio on any of the discs.
I’ve heard the laserdisc from the universal collectors series sounds the best and has an exclusive extended audio commentary where they talk during the space between the side flips of the disc and the start of the next side
Vhs version is the best.
The Thing is one of the best body horror movies ever made. Another good Body Horror movie is Body Melt 1993 . Would like to see the 4K release .
This is a movie that deserves a deep dive into the digital home video releases. The Blu-ray had some controversy over grading changes, as well as special features. A 4way comparison video would be fantastic.
Once I get a copy on vhs I’d love to do that. I plan on doing one for Ghostbusters soon.
I first saw the thing at University in the early 1980s. It is a wonderful films from one of my favourite directors. I have owned the thing in multiple formats including Laserdisc, VHS, DVD, Blu-ray and Different versions. -my go to edition is Studio Canal 4K special edition.
I have got over a thousand DVDs, I have recently had a look at them and was quite impressed - great packaging and menus. There are also a lot of films etc that are on DVD but have no Blu-ray or 4Ks - an example of this is Buffy the vampire slayer that has no got a Blu-ray upgrade - I can live with DVD box sets though.
Thanks foe a great episode.😅😅🎉🎉
I did a video about 25 movies that need blu-ray upgrades still, it’s weird.
Was lucky enough to have gone from recorded off tv to legitimate vhs, Dvd, Laserdisc (3 different releases including Signature) bluray (but not Shout, I don't think) and now 4k. Love it no matter the format, but 4k has brought delight in its clarity.
The Arrow blu-ray for this is the one to watch, imo. The best version.
I have the Thing on DVD and Blu ray and I’m happy sticking to that (I find a lot of films pre-2007 ish look better upscaled on DVD or through my widescreen CRT.
The DVD of the Thing is a great example of a single disc release with tons of extras though. Most films with that many used 2 discs but the amount of content squeezed onto the early 2000s release is insane!
I know screen shots dont come across exactly the same on RUclips but, your 4k looks like it has a 'cooler' colour grade to how my 4k looks. Try a warmer setting on your tv and it should help the look of the blue snow you're seeing.
I wasn’t too upset at the coloring, and I think it looked more blue after I processed it. The thing is, I didn’t notice how blue it was until I did the side by side so it’s not biggie lol.
Subbed off this one video alone.
Thanks!
Owning The Thing on VHS, LaserDisc, DVD, and BluRay. I personally have not gone up to 4K to 99% of my movie collection. I have not seen a need to do so. However, this comparison is appreciated. I will be ordering this version today. Thanks for the vid.
Thanks! It’s worth the pickup.
I think the darkness in the DVD is visually more appealing and truer to life. Everything is brighter in the 4K, but has a horrible blue filter overlaid onto it in the day time shots.
I don't remember my DVD of The Thing being as dark as your capture. Either way you watch this film it's great
As mentioned in the video, it would look different on a tv, and different if it’s a different release. This was captured without passing through a tv.
I’d suggest the correct image is somewhere in the middle, a little more toward the DVD. The 4K looks as flat as an iPhone with all the shadows raised. And the nasty blue cast in the snow scenes is unforgivable. That footage is shot on daylight stock, and should look naturally warm, but it’s like they did the classic “cold must be blue” grading on the 4K. Looks garbage.
Incredible movie. I can’t believe the 4K has blue snow though…tv calibrated?
Personally I wish the UHD version kept the darkness and only upped the resolution. The lighting on the DVD is way more moody.
The thing to consider is, these are just reference captures they’ll look different on your tv, but I think there is a healthy middle ground. I’d like to compare the vhs and Bluray and have all 4 to compare.
@@Ectoviolence Ah that makes sense. I'll try the UHD version.
I don't know. I prefer the high contrast of the dvd version. I think the newer one is too bright for a horror movie :) And what's with the blue hue?
I have the blu ray, but I might have to upgrade.
It almost looks like the whoever did the color grading on the 4K, didn't do it right.
I would say the DVD here looks better, the dark in the 4K seems fake and digital and the days washed. Instead, the DVD feels real. It is a problem for me with a lot of 4K releases.
The Thing is absolutely Awesome. favorite scene - "You Gotta Be F**kin' Kidding". honestly now im super curious what the blu ray looks like compared to these formats. At 9:10 I actually like the DVD more. The 4k as you mentioned is doing something weird. thanks for the video
Got the blu ray by shout. I can't afford to upgrade everything. Btw one of my first DVDs I bought on my own. It does force zoom on my sony 4k and Blu ray players even though it's non anamorphic.
The Thing is Awesome!
I like the idea of comparing 4k to DVD but I don't think that you can give viewers a realistic idea about the differences the way you captured 4k content. As you said yourself, it doesn't look the same as on your TV - or on mine for what it's worth. I think the "4k content" looks way off here, it's actually a really stunning disc.
Keep going man, but please help the cause by trying to capture accurate colours, brightness and sharpness (like HDNumerique, they're doing fantastic work).
Cheers 🌞
Edit: after watching a bit more I think I can tell you took pictures of your TV, probably with a phone or at least camera that really isn't suited for capturing such content.
Someone in the comments wrote it looks flat like an iPhone, I think it's even way worse than that, as entire movies and professional content are shot with iphones these days.
No hate bro, but people, don't trust your eyes on this comparison.
I planning to show my friend the Thing on Blu ray. It’ll be his first time I wanna make and eat spaghetti while watching it. Easily John Carpenters best
Trying to get new people to watch old films by showing them 4K versions of these types off movies is giving them them a skewed perspective, one that wasn’t the original directors intention. Seeing this movie all bright and overly lit totally changes the mood and the feel of The Thing. We weren’t supposed to see everything in clear crystal clarity. There’s a reason there are award winning lighting men and cinematographers who work in the movie industry, their work sets the style and unique vision of the director. Seeing too much kills the scene. Shows too much of the animatronics. Reveals set and prop flaws. I saw this movie in the theatre and it was a dark movie and it was all the better for it. The whole premise relies on something lurking in the shadows. I can’t speak for John Carpenter, but I’d put good money down on him saying he’s not a fan of the 4K filters and brightening of his film. I think the people who worked on the 4K release have made a classic film look cheap and tacky.
Bam!
Snow should be white.... The DVD is a better look.
The DVD looks more like it was in the theater... It was a "dark" looking film. So the 4K kills that.
4K bluray's are fake and a lie! SMDH!
Lmao ok buddy
The Atmos mix is garbage compared to the Dvd / lds
4K sucks, blu ray is far superior
You can prefer what you want, but 4K UHD as a format has a better resolution, bit rate capacity, frame rate capacity, etc. I buy VHS, I'm not a quality snob, but "far superior" is hilarious.