Very interesting for 3D project. in indonesia tradional cigarette make by manual roller not only injecting. Maybe someday i hope we can do some project 3D and adruino mechanism for rolling ways. Thanks
This is a very good idea. You would have to get the cigarette paper out of the package and feed it to some kind of rotary unit. I'm thinking a little bit about whether that could work. Do you know of such a machine? Do you have a link?
Thank you very much. I am working on a website right now. This will go online in the next few weeks. There I will share more information about my projects.
I don't have much experience with website building yet. I have been reading up on the subject for some time. I've been building a WordPress site for a few days now. I must say it's going pretty well and it's fun. If I run into a problem I come back to your offer ;-)
Just a little help from a self making, cigarette smoker: Your tobacco is not packing & holding in the tubes more than likely from too small, granular, & dry tobacco. I see similar problems when making my own cigarettes if dry or granular. Its best if tobacco is longer strands & slightly moist. Put an apple slice in bag of tobacco for moisture. And use fresh tobacco with longer cut strands, it helps hold in tube. But once processed, tobacco tends to break down to finer grannuals that wont stay in tube, similar to sand. It must be stringy strands. Hope this help?? Nice job, your mostly there..
Hello, I know that with the dry tobacco from cigarette rolling. The tobacco in the video I have always let through the machine. This has dried him and chopped into small pieces. If I had always taken fresh tobacco would have been very expensive ;-) But you're right. The tobacco fresh from the can has worked best.
Hi, unfortunately in my home country it is not allowed to publish the files. The machine is a prototype. Do you have the possibility to make the bearings (lathe)? You would have to install stronger motors. There are some more modifications to be made.
@@FraensEngineering actually I already have a semi automatic machine and am just looking for the parts to put the sleeves onto the machine. Would you be able to upload those parts?
Hi, leider ist es verboten solche Maschinen in Deutschland zu verkaufen. Ich denke es wäre nicht gut die Dateien zu veröffentlichen. Auf Hackaday gibt es darüber eine Diskussion (hackaday.com/2022/11/20/see-the-forbidden-cigarette-machine-in-action/). Liebe Grüße aus Österreich ;-)
Hello, unfortunately in my country you are not allowed to publish the files from tax law. One could produce large quantities of cigarettes. That's not something people like to see. Therefore the files are not intended for download. Unfortunately, I only found out about it after uploading the video.
Hello, the machine is a prototype. I would only be interested in a feasibility study. There are still some things that need to be improved. An identical replica would not work well. Can you do 3D modeling? If yes, which program? More powerful motors would have to be installed. The motorshield will not work anymore. You would have to build external motor drivers. You could use an Arduino Mega and use the Motorshield for the servo. Of course you would have to adapt the program code. Can you program an Arduino? For the bearings you need a lathe. Do you have one? You would need to put some development work into it. Do you have the skills to do that? If not, building doesn't really make sense.
How you find perfect dimensions for tobacco press knife? You used small dc motor for injector spoon but its easily extract tobacco out of press. Many machines uses 0.75 kw servo motors. I made a cigarette machine I am using 0.55 kw motor but its really hard to extract tobacco out of press. My press dimensions are too big or small I don't know.
The motors of my machine are too weak. That was one of my first findings. This led to the design with the levers for the press. I bought a Top-O-Matik tamping machine to measure the dimensions. Tobacco is a very difficult material. You need a lot of force to press it and push it into the sleeve.
Hi, if the motor is strong enough you don't need to pay attention to anything special. However, you should then also operate it with 6V. But can it provide enough power?
Anychance u will be selling this machine or selling the full instructions with parts made that aren't 3d printed like the metal parts and the clear lexan or acrylic panels and the brass injector screws and the motors and options to purchase audrinos for extra or purchase myself
Hello, unfortunately I cannot offer a kit. I only develop, design and build the prototypes. I make these available to the public if someone wants to build it themselves.
@FraensEngineering would you help me find files and code. I am new to raspberry pi but my brother is not and will help me. This would really save me much time as I roll for 2 people. Thank you and beautiful design!
Hi, these are the inductive sensors: amzn.to/3WMzDPV In this forum is described how these are wired: forum.arduino.cc/t/induktiver-naherungs-schalter-fur-doffe/390592/14 The circuit diagram on the left in 6.06 must be soldered for each sensor. The Arduino gets a LOW signal when the sensor switches.
In the tobacco magazine there is a vertical acrylic plate. This is raised and lowered with this magnetic motor. This pushes the tobacco into the press.
I forgot to turn on notifications, just saw the video. The video is so beautiful that I questioned why I shouldn't make it myself. The materials you use, your processing method, your arduino codes etc. Can I do the same? is there a place i should know that you changed but not in the video
I want to use this project by making some metal components like nema 34 stepper motor and press area. what would you recommend if it works the way you did it?
The inductive sensors require 12V. At the black cable 5V are fed in via a voltage divider. These then switch through to GND. Therefore you need a small circuit to connect them.
I would recommend that you build the press unit first. On Thingiverse, only the 3D models of the press unit are currently uploaded. The sleeve magazine is not yet available for download. I would also recommend you to check this page: www.printables.com/de/model/311422-fully-automatic-3d-printed-cigarette-stuffing-mach Thingiverse is not a good site. This is very poorly maintained by Makerbot.
Hello, unfortunately in my country it is forbidden to sell such machines. To publish the files is not so good for me. You can read a discussion about it here: hackaday.com/2022/11/20/see-the-forbidden-cigarette-machine-in-action/
@@FraensEngineering I was thinking that you may have used Fusing 360. In that software you can add motion which is referred to as joints. If used properly each part can be made and assembled in the virtual world and simulated. This can help you catch errors as well as not have to mentally visualize the whole machine. There is a hobbyist version that is free if your interested in that.
Die Feineinstellung stell ich mir nervig und kompliziert vor. Besonders wenn man die letzten 4cm von der Hülse füllen möchte ohne das die kippe zu fest wird oder platzt. Von der Maschine und funktion her ist das echt genial aufgebaut. Ein sau cooles Projekt. Bin am überlegen das auch mal zu bauen für meine Raucherfreunde wenn die sowas benötigen ^^" Ich würde dann noch die elektronik in einer gedruckten box verstecken ums aufgeräumter zu halten. Hab da schon so ein paar ideen. :P
@Fraens , you said: "A lot of force is needed for the press" , why not using an reduction geared motor, you can do more force. I did the same project some time ago but used for the press an powermatic 2 what i had home already
Hi, of course I used a motor with reduction gear. A lot of power is generated at the "0 point" via the toggle lever design. That is why I can operate the machine with a relatively weak motor.
I think you mean filters that are smaller in diameter or? It would have to be the sleeve magazine, the plug-on drum, the plug-on tube, the press, the tamping slide.... Actually the machine is then a new construction.
Hello, I would love to sell the machine. However, in my country it is forbidden to sell such machines. I need to find out how it would be if I sell the 3D files.
Although there is no such information on the construction of this machine on the internet, you have shared such a nice detailed information, thank you, I want to develop this machine, are there any issues that you can recommend or that I should pay attention to?
Hello, unfortunately there can not download the models. In my country it is forbidden to sell such machines. I think it is not good to publish the parts.
The tobacco you used seems to be of a very fine cut, how will the loading/stuffing mechanism handle longer cut and more moist tobacco? Have you smoked the machine rolled cigarettes? Are they too tight? Do they burn evenly? Are they uniform in the packing(especially each end)? Right now i am hand rolling with a hand machine and I’ve got the technique down to where I can roll perfect cigarettes which burn better than any store brand, I’m worried the cigarettes this machine rolls won’t be enjoyable to smoke. Also about the files, just send them to me and I’ll post them :) hahaha.
Hi, the machine is a prototype to try if it is possible with 3d printed parts. The tobacco is very fine as I have used it over and over again. The machine is certainly not perfect. My biggest problem was the high forces needed to press it. That's why the solution with the threaded spindle came up. As good as store-bought cigarettes they do not burn. But with some optimization and stronger engines would certainly still improve a lot.
@@FraensEngineering Is the compression really that big a problem? A good cigarette is never packed really hard. When rolling the cigarette in between your fingers it should be soft to the touch, enough to deform it a little. If you squeeze it between your fingers and it’s almost like a rock and you can’t deform the surface without considerable effort that is a cigarette that will make the smoker angry. The perfect consistency should be where you can squeeze the outer circumference a third of the radius of the cigarette before you meet considerable resistance. Ofcourse the ultimate test is actually smoking it as this will reveal all the characteristics more clearly, but I do not know of you smoke or not. I’ve been experimenting with a design that uses an Archimedes screw to pack each cigarette to a perfect consistency.
That you need such a large force, I was also a little surprised at first. I then studied a lot of videos and pictures on the Internet. There are systems with pneumatic cylinders and those with geared motors. A small Festo DSBC-32 pneumatic cylinder already has a force of 483N. However, it feels like the professional machines have something bigger. Machines with geared motors usually have a very large gearbox. I also think that these motors run with 24V. In my experiments, it turned out that I achieve these forces only by means of a "knee lever construction". Professional machines also often work this way. I then bought a Top-O-Matic to look at the system. This also works according to this principle. It is also very helpful if the "toggle lever" moves slightly above the dead center. This compresses the tobacco a little more and relaxes it again a little. A big problem was also that the tobacco between the filler opening and press jammed. So the transition from tobacco magazine in the press. If tobacco pieces jam here, it is very difficult to push the tobacco out of the press. It then clogs very quickly. Here it is important that you have enough force to push it into the sleeve. It is somewhat difficult to explain.
Hello, the machine is a prototype. I would only be interested in a feasibility study. There are still some things that need to be improved. An identical replica would not work well. Can you do 3D modeling? If yes, which program? More powerful motors would have to be installed. The motorshield will not work anymore. You would have to build external motor drivers. You could use an Arduino Mega and use the Motorshield for the servo. Of course you would have to adapt the program code. Can you program an Arduino? For the bearings you need a lathe. Do you have one? You would need to put some development work into it. Do you have the skills to do that? If not, building doesn't really make sense.
@@FraensEngineering yes I use SketchUp and fusion 360. I know how to program Arduino and yes I have a lathe. Actually just got it a few days ago. I definitely have skills and I am really good at improving an idea. I am definitely willing to start working on it ASAP and depending on you after it is up and running I can release the files to you or let them run wild on the net. Up to you as long as I can keep my cigs rolling and smoking while I make more stuff to benefit us poor folks 😁 lol
The tobacco already has a good density. The problem is rather the weak engine for the press. The pre-stuffing is done by the vertical acrylic with the electric cylinder.
@@FraensEngineering First, let me say that your design is an inspiration. Really great work. Additional Considerations: The humidity of the tobacco is critical to both the loading and the tendency for the tobacco to fall out. About 60%-65% relative humidity is the ideal range. Above 65% and the tobacco tends to become sticky, clumping together and creating unnecessary drag on the injector walls, loading tube and the paper. Reversible by reducing the humidity. Indications are: tube is pushed away early. Space close to the filter left unfilled. Tight spots in the m8ddle of the loaded paper. Below 60% the tobacco begins to 'dust' and break down into smaller particles that don't interlock and compress into the tube. This condition isn't reversible but can be mitigated by increasing the humidity. Once the tobacco breaks down though it will never return to a condition that will load or pack properly. The most ideal leaf cut is "thread cut." It has the surface area and compressability to provide both, uniform loading (same density throughout the tube) and good stability with the tobacco staying entangled with itself and not falling out. I use a heavily modified Powermatic II, made by Zico. It has a robust loading system, strong motor a very good compression/cutting blade and well engineered spoon loader geometry. What it lacks and what its subsequent design upgrade doesn't get right is the tube positioning system which you seem to have sorted out very nicely. I've added a large 3D printed hopper (holds tobacco for 5 packs) and a humidity control/display system that keeps the tobacco in the ideal range for spoon loading machines. Your tube alignment mechanism solves most of the remaining automation issues. There is also a lesser issue with getting even compression of the tobacco as it is compressed into the loading chamber, which I think can be addressed with a rotating silicone blade or brush. What remains unaddressed by either design appears to be a simple vibrator/shaker box and a trimmer to finish them neatly. Thank you for sharing your brilliant design solutions. I hope my input has helped you in your efforts in some small way.
How much to build me one complete like a version 2 more refined and everything covered in a completed shroud to cover all the vital moving parts that if bumped or accidentally have something dropped on it would ruin calibration or break more precise and fragile fine tuned pieces u kno 500 750 1000 1500 2000k what's up
Hello, at the moment I am not planning to build a second version. However, I would like to make some improvements. You can download the current version here: cults3d.com/de/modell-3d/werkzeuge/3d-printed-stuffing-machine
This is one of the most impressive 3d printed machines I've seen, well done!
these igus spindles are crazy, good choice. love how "fast" they are
5:41 should be your thumbnail. Very well done sir! I enjoyed watching your creative mind.
Oh my gosh. This is exactly the kind of content I was looking for. (edit: not for smoking, but for machine design)
Exceptional engineering skills and creativity. You are truly talented.
Dang Fraens good job! Nice design and clean prints. Your truly an inspiration!
Thanks a lot!
This code writing timelapse is UNREAL XD
WHAT?? No. You just have to type fast ;-)
It looks so cool and it sounds awesome. Its pure art!
I am glad that you like it ;-)
Wowee, even if smoking is bad, that is so cool
thisi is huge !
a little cigarette factory, not a machine
thx 4 video !
Don't say that. Otherwise the tobacco industry will be at my doorstep ;-)
thanks friends 👍😀.
looking forward to loading the paper roulette files🙏
Awesome! I love this kind of practical invention, really appreciate the work behind all this :)
Thank you very much. There is enough work behind it ;-)
@@FraensEngineering it shows!
Wow! Such an amazing and innovative design.
Very interesting for 3D project. in indonesia tradional cigarette make by manual roller not only injecting. Maybe someday i hope we can do some project 3D and adruino mechanism for rolling ways. Thanks
This is a very good idea. You would have to get the cigarette paper out of the package and feed it to some kind of rotary unit. I'm thinking a little bit about whether that could work. Do you know of such a machine? Do you have a link?
Wow, u are a Great mechanical eng 👍☺️
This will be perfect, I'll get my stash
wow man excellent prototype
Would have loved this when I was 16.
I am not a smoker. I am just here for the engineering behind the machine 😃
me 2, and i learned alot
Спасибо большое! Давно думал как сделать. Мне больше нравится ESP32. Буду делать на этом контроллере.
Instantly Subscribed ,
Thank you very much. I am working on a website right now. This will go online in the next few weeks. There I will share more information about my projects.
@@FraensEngineering if you need help with website , i m web developer
I don't have much experience with website building yet. I have been reading up on the subject for some time. I've been building a WordPress site for a few days now. I must say it's going pretty well and it's fun. If I run into a problem I come back to your offer ;-)
Hello sir any chances i could get the stl files for this? Thank u
Btw very creative man 👍
Great project. Can you tell me the force stuffing is about how many Newtons, please?
Just a little help from a self making, cigarette smoker: Your tobacco is not packing & holding in the tubes more than likely from too small, granular, & dry tobacco. I see similar problems when making my own cigarettes if dry or granular. Its best if tobacco is longer strands & slightly moist. Put an apple slice in bag of tobacco for moisture. And use fresh tobacco with longer cut strands, it helps hold in tube. But once processed, tobacco tends to break down to finer grannuals that wont stay in tube, similar to sand. It must be stringy strands. Hope this help?? Nice job, your mostly there..
Hello, I know that with the dry tobacco from cigarette rolling. The tobacco in the video I have always let through the machine. This has dried him and chopped into small pieces. If I had always taken fresh tobacco would have been very expensive ;-) But you're right. The tobacco fresh from the can has worked best.
I cant believe this lol so much work but cool
crazy cool machine! I want to build one too but you only have one of the files uploaded to thingiverse. Could you add the rest too? TIA
Hi, unfortunately in my home country it is not allowed to publish the files. The machine is a prototype. Do you have the possibility to make the bearings (lathe)? You would have to install stronger motors. There are some more modifications to be made.
@@FraensEngineering unfortunately I don't have a lathe but I'll find a solution
@@FraensEngineering actually I already have a semi automatic machine and am just looking for the parts to put the sleeves onto the machine. Would you be able to upload those parts?
It's a nice project, but it's not a homework that can be done for a student's school education, it costs a little expensive files :)
May the documents be released on some day
cults3d.com/de/modell-3d/werkzeuge/3d-printed-stuffing-machine
Hello, great part. But I couldn't find any files on Thingiverse. greetings from Germany
Hi, leider ist es verboten solche Maschinen in Deutschland zu verkaufen. Ich denke es wäre nicht gut die Dateien zu veröffentlichen. Auf Hackaday gibt es darüber eine Diskussion (hackaday.com/2022/11/20/see-the-forbidden-cigarette-machine-in-action/). Liebe Grüße aus Österreich ;-)
I thought this was a cigarette puffing machine. Think it would make a great addition tho.
Yes, I thought so too ;-)
You freak! Using a slot screw driver as an Allan key! Freak!
The hack!
But the rest is well made! Go on, mate!
Have unfortunately misplaced my Allen key ;-)
That's awesome....
This is great !
This is very cool, but would it work with joint cones (raw, element...) ?
I don't quite understand what you mean by joint cones.
Not straight cigarette, but for example Raw cones
Unfortunately, I don't understand what you mean.
Amazing Mashine bro, but the links are broken.. i can just donwload 1 stl and the other parts are not there.
Hello, unfortunately in my country you are not allowed to publish the files from tax law. One could produce large quantities of cigarettes. That's not something people like to see. Therefore the files are not intended for download. Unfortunately, I only found out about it after uploading the video.
@@FraensEngineering can you send me the files on a other way like google drive or something else ?
Hello, the machine is a prototype. I would only be interested in a feasibility study. There are still some things that need to be improved. An identical replica would not work well. Can you do 3D modeling? If yes, which program? More powerful motors would have to be installed. The motorshield will not work anymore. You would have to build external motor drivers. You could use an Arduino Mega and use the Motorshield for the servo. Of course you would have to adapt the program code. Can you program an Arduino? For the bearings you need a lathe. Do you have one? You would need to put some development work into it. Do you have the skills to do that? If not, building doesn't really make sense.
How you find perfect dimensions for tobacco press knife? You used small dc motor for injector spoon but its easily extract tobacco out of press. Many machines uses 0.75 kw servo motors. I made a cigarette machine I am using 0.55 kw motor but its really hard to extract tobacco out of press. My press dimensions are too big or small I don't know.
The motors of my machine are too weak. That was one of my first findings. This led to the design with the levers for the press.
I bought a Top-O-Matik tamping machine to measure the dimensions. Tobacco is a very difficult material. You need a lot of force to press it and push it into the sleeve.
Sehr geehrter Alchimedes,
wie viel hat es gekostet?
Das kann ich dir leider nicht sagen. Die meisten Teile hatte ich zuhause.
Hi, I download all the files already. In my country I can only find 6V 12RPM motors. What do I have to change to make it work?
Hi, if the motor is strong enough you don't need to pay attention to anything special. However, you should then also operate it with 6V. But can it provide enough power?
which pin does the reference sensor go to on arduino?
magazine_sensor on PIN A5
Anychance u will be selling this machine or selling the full instructions with parts made that aren't 3d printed like the metal parts and the clear lexan or acrylic panels and the brass injector screws and the motors and options to purchase audrinos for extra or purchase myself
Hello, the machine is sold with all drawings and parts that need to be built.
Hallo sehr sehr cooles Projekt ! Respekt !
Ist es möglich nur die Dateien für das Hülsen Magazin zu bekommen?
Hi, schreib mir eine E-Mail dann schauen wir was wir machen können: fraensengineering@gmx.at
Do you happen to sell kits or do I have to 3d print everything and buy the parts myself?
Hello, unfortunately I cannot offer a kit. I only develop, design and build the prototypes. I make these available to the public if someone wants to build it themselves.
@FraensEngineering would you help me find files and code. I am new to raspberry pi but my brother is not and will help me. This would really save me much time as I roll for 2 people. Thank you and beautiful design!
Can you explain in detail the plate on which the inductive sensors are soldered?
5.57 dk
where to solder the wires under the plate
are the sensors no or nc
Hi, these are the inductive sensors: amzn.to/3WMzDPV
In this forum is described how these are wired: forum.arduino.cc/t/induktiver-naherungs-schalter-fur-doffe/390592/14
The circuit diagram on the left in 6.06 must be soldered for each sensor.
The Arduino gets a LOW signal when the sensor switches.
@@FraensEngineering What kind of power supply should I buy according to the amperage drawn by the motors? how is this calculated
What does the movement of the solenoid motor do in 12.35 minutes?
it hits something but I don't understand why
In the tobacco magazine there is a vertical acrylic plate. This is raised and lowered with this magnetic motor. This pushes the tobacco into the press.
I forgot to turn on notifications, just saw the video. The video is so beautiful that I questioned why I shouldn't make it myself. The materials you use, your processing method, your arduino codes etc. Can I do the same? is there a place i should know that you changed but not in the video
I want to use this project by making some metal components like nema 34 stepper motor and press area. what would you recommend if it works the way you did it?
I didn't understand which components you soldered together while drawing the circuit at 5.54
You would have to see if the motorshield can supply the current for such large motors. Otherwise you would have to use external motor drivers.
The inductive sensors require 12V. At the black cable 5V are fed in via a voltage divider. These then switch through to GND. Therefore you need a small circuit to connect them.
I would recommend that you build the press unit first. On Thingiverse, only the 3D models of the press unit are currently uploaded. The sleeve magazine is not yet available for download.
I would also recommend you to check this page: www.printables.com/de/model/311422-fully-automatic-3d-printed-cigarette-stuffing-mach
Thingiverse is not a good site. This is very poorly maintained by Makerbot.
My one question is why did yiu use a flat blade screwdriver for the hex bolts? Lol
Unfortunately I have not found a suitable Allen key :-) I never do it again. Promised ;-)
Fraens best project 👍👍👍💯💯💯.
My Friend video 08:55 - 09:14 Paper rulet mechanism STL please 🙏🙏🙏
See my new machine for 2023 year:
BECKER Satori XV-200
Very cool ;-)
Good day. Please, where can I download the circuit diagram of this device and the software for arduino. Thank you, best regards, Sukdolák
Hi, I don't have the files to download. In the video you can see a part of the code.
@@FraensEngineering Too bad, I thought you could help me
Wich motor did you use on the gears? it isnt in the list
Servus kann man die cad Zeichnung nur von diesem hülsenmagazin bekommen.
Hi, schreib mir auf - FraensEngeneering@gmx.at
Ist die email angekommen ?
hello sir for the stl file, why isn't it complete, can you get the full 3d print file in full?
Unfortunately, in my home country it is not allowed to publish these files for tax reasons.
Dear Fraens is it possible to give the price of this machine? Thank you❤
cults3d.com/de/modell-3d/werkzeuge/3d-printed-stuffing-machine
Hello, I would like to build it for my own purposes, but the .stl can no longer be downloaded, where can I replace it?
Hello, unfortunately I am not allowed to publish the files in my country. Sorry.
@@FraensEngineering Hello, I would like to build it in Hungary, just for my own use, file sharing? g drive?
@@FraensEngineering Hello, perhaps a private e-mail?
perhaps dxf?
nice
Cool! 👍🏻
What About the Hollow Tube Making?
Good idea ;-)
@@FraensEngineeringi want a machine that could make a finish product. No more Hollow tube making but direct rolling with Tobacco & filter.
Cool project! It would help if you talked us through what’s going on instead of the music.
Yes, you are right. Maybe I'll be able to get over myself at some point.
Can you send me the files once? Because I would like to rebuild this machine. Unfortunately several files are missing on thingiverse. Thank You!
Hello, unfortunately in my country it is forbidden to sell such machines. To publish the files is not so good for me.
You can read a discussion about it here: hackaday.com/2022/11/20/see-the-forbidden-cigarette-machine-in-action/
Please help me find files and code. I am rolling for several people and this would be a godsend. Thank you!
cults3d.com/de/modell-3d/werkzeuge/3d-printed-stuffing-machine
The machine is a prototype and not plug and play
Can you send me all the models your link only has one?
Hi, if you are from Germany I am not allowed to share the files. Write me an email.
I am in the USA what is your EMail?
FraensEngineering@gmx.at
I would love to see the cad file, did you use joints?
I have not made any drawings at the moment. Which joints do you mean?
@@FraensEngineering I was thinking that you may have used Fusing 360. In that software you can add motion which is referred to as joints. If used properly each part can be made and assembled in the virtual world and simulated. This can help you catch errors as well as not have to mentally visualize the whole machine. There is a hobbyist version that is free if your interested in that.
I created the 3D model completely, of course. So with joints and all the rest.
@@FraensEngineering I'm figuring out joints, I know they are super powerful and useful.
Die Feineinstellung stell ich mir nervig und kompliziert vor. Besonders wenn man die letzten 4cm von der Hülse füllen möchte ohne das die kippe zu fest wird oder platzt.
Von der Maschine und funktion her ist das echt genial aufgebaut. Ein sau cooles Projekt. Bin am überlegen das auch mal zu bauen für meine Raucherfreunde wenn die sowas benötigen ^^"
Ich würde dann noch die elektronik in einer gedruckten box verstecken ums aufgeräumter zu halten. Hab da schon so ein paar ideen. :P
Solltest du eine bauen, gib mir Bescheid. Es würde mich sehr interessieren.
Whats link about
MOTOR OME34B37G30A
12 V.DC
166Rpm?
Hi, I had this engine at home. Unfortunately I do not have a link to this one. But it should work with this one too: Gear motor: amzn.to/43Sw0uT
@@FraensEngineering Will the fitting hole in the project have to be changed?
I have not tested it. But according to the dimensions it should fit.
@Fraens , you said: "A lot of force is needed for the press" , why not using an reduction geared motor, you can do more force.
I did the same project some time ago but used for the press an powermatic 2 what i had home already
Hi, of course I used a motor with reduction gear. A lot of power is generated at the "0 point" via the toggle lever design. That is why I can operate the machine with a relatively weak motor.
Can you share BOM full material ?
Hello, unfortunately I am not allowed to publish the files in my country. Sorry.
Can you share contact whatsapp, for consultation
Where we can find arduino code for this project ? Thank you.
The Arduino code is included in the download files.
Thank you man
Here is the expected video, the design you made for the thick filter. I want design according to fine filter. What should I do to change my design?
You put a lot of effort and the workmanship is also very good.
I think you mean filters that are smaller in diameter or?
It would have to be the sleeve magazine, the plug-on drum, the plug-on tube, the press, the tamping slide....
Actually the machine is then a new construction.
@@FraensEngineering I did not understand what you said
@@FraensEngineering It looks like there are parts missing in the file?
@@FraensEngineering Fraens best project 👍👍👍💯💯💯.
My Friend video 08:55 - 09:14 Paper rulet mechanism STL please 🙏🙏🙏
I don't understand. You ask to buy 10rpm gear motors, but in the video you use 166 rpm.
Hi, where was that mentioned?
hello my friend, you deleted the files from thingiverse. I think you will add filter push files 😀😀😀
08:55 - 09:14 Paper rulet mechanism STL please 🙏
Hi, check out the Thingiverse description. Here I have written the reason. Sorry. I still have to deal with this issue.
Sir's you sells the machine that I will get the machine sold
Hello, I would love to sell the machine. However, in my country it is forbidden to sell such machines. I need to find out how it would be if I sell the 3D files.
You can how long will you sell me your 3D file and how much is the price of your file, can you give me your contact number?
I have added my email in my channel description.
Although there is no such information on the construction of this machine on the internet, you have shared such a nice detailed information, thank you, I want to develop this machine, are there any issues that you can recommend or that I should pay attention to?
Friends wrote that there are missing files, how can I get them?
@@selimergun5711 he will publish them when ready
@@MrMorgalis are you the owner of this channel
Are you building the machine from metal or 3d printed?
@@FraensEngineering First of all, I want to make plastic and get to know the process.
Hi, I can ask for the code for Arduino and a link to the printed items, how much it all cost thanks for help. Regards
Hello, unfortunately there can not download the models. In my country it is forbidden to sell such machines. I think it is not good to publish the parts.
@@FraensEngineering damn because I wanted to do this 1 to 1
I also find this very annoying. But 50000€ fine is not worth it to me. I don't want to take any risks.
@@FraensEngineering But sharing code and stl files is not forbidden
The .stl files are not available for download. You can't do anything with the code alone.
Top Job 👌 STL pls 😢
Unfortunately, it is forbidden to publish the files in my country.
@@FraensEngineering Not even by Email? 🙄
The machine is a prototype. Some things would still have to be improved.
@@FraensEngineering I understand that . I'm talking about the sleeve assembly and the drum. That saves me time. Hence the STL files.
I can upload the drum. I think that should be fine. I will do that soon.
Can u give this project for your subscriber???source code and part design
3D models are on Thingiverse. Arduino code is currently only visible in the video. Maybe I can find a solution to share it.
@@FraensEngineering you can copy and paste the code here
Can't wait for the lung cancer remover machine next.
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Can I pay for files
cults3d.com/de/modell-3d/werkzeuge/3d-printed-stuffing-machine
I miss smoking so much, it sucks being a quitter.
Smoking is a bad addiction... ;-(
i can't download files
cults3d.com/de/modell-3d/werkzeuge/3d-printed-stuffing-machine
The tobacco you used seems to be of a very fine cut, how will the loading/stuffing mechanism handle longer cut and more moist tobacco?
Have you smoked the machine rolled cigarettes? Are they too tight? Do they burn evenly? Are they uniform in the packing(especially each end)?
Right now i am hand rolling with a hand machine and I’ve got the technique down to where I can roll perfect cigarettes which burn better than any store brand, I’m worried the cigarettes this machine rolls won’t be enjoyable to smoke.
Also about the files, just send them to me and I’ll post them :) hahaha.
Hi, the machine is a prototype to try if it is possible with 3d printed parts. The tobacco is very fine as I have used it over and over again. The machine is certainly not perfect. My biggest problem was the high forces needed to press it. That's why the solution with the threaded spindle came up. As good as store-bought cigarettes they do not burn. But with some optimization and stronger engines would certainly still improve a lot.
@@FraensEngineering Is the compression really that big a problem? A good cigarette is never packed really hard. When rolling the cigarette in between your fingers it should be soft to the touch, enough to deform it a little. If you squeeze it between your fingers and it’s almost like a rock and you can’t deform the surface without considerable effort that is a cigarette that will make the smoker angry. The perfect consistency should be where you can squeeze the outer circumference a third of the radius of the cigarette before you meet considerable resistance. Ofcourse the ultimate test is actually smoking it as this will reveal all the characteristics more clearly, but I do not know of you smoke or not.
I’ve been experimenting with a design that uses an Archimedes screw to pack each cigarette to a perfect consistency.
That you need such a large force, I was also a little surprised at first. I then studied a lot of videos and pictures on the Internet. There are systems with pneumatic cylinders and those with geared motors. A small Festo DSBC-32 pneumatic cylinder already has a force of 483N. However, it feels like the professional machines have something bigger. Machines with geared motors usually have a very large gearbox. I also think that these motors run with 24V. In my experiments, it turned out that I achieve these forces only by means of a "knee lever construction". Professional machines also often work this way. I then bought a Top-O-Matic to look at the system. This also works according to this principle. It is also very helpful if the "toggle lever" moves slightly above the dead center. This compresses the tobacco a little more and relaxes it again a little. A big problem was also that the tobacco between the filler opening and press jammed. So the transition from tobacco magazine in the press. If tobacco pieces jam here, it is very difficult to push the tobacco out of the press. It then clogs very quickly. Here it is important that you have enough force to push it into the sleeve. It is somewhat difficult to explain.
Поделитесь скетчем пожалуйста.
Hello, unfortunately in Austria and Germany you are not allowed to sell or publish such machines. I would get problems there.
Neat
Thanks a lot
Good job... Has anyone downloaded the files and if they would like to forward them to me I have no way to pay.. thanks in any case.
Where are you from? From Russia? Is that why you have no opportunity?
@@FraensEngineering I am from Serbia.
can you send me the files please
Hello, the machine is a prototype. I would only be interested in a feasibility study. There are still some things that need to be improved. An identical replica would not work well. Can you do 3D modeling? If yes, which program? More powerful motors would have to be installed. The motorshield will not work anymore. You would have to build external motor drivers. You could use an Arduino Mega and use the Motorshield for the servo. Of course you would have to adapt the program code. Can you program an Arduino? For the bearings you need a lathe. Do you have one? You would need to put some development work into it. Do you have the skills to do that? If not, building doesn't really make sense.
@@FraensEngineering yes I use SketchUp and fusion 360. I know how to program Arduino and yes I have a lathe. Actually just got it a few days ago. I definitely have skills and I am really good at improving an idea. I am definitely willing to start working on it ASAP and depending on you after it is up and running I can release the files to you or let them run wild on the net. Up to you as long as I can keep my cigs rolling and smoking while I make more stuff to benefit us poor folks 😁 lol
You can email me: FraensEngineering@gmx.at
Tobacco is way too loose. It's all falling out in the pile of "finished" cigarettes. Needs a way to tamp down the tobacco before stuffing
The tobacco already has a good density. The problem is rather the weak engine for the press. The pre-stuffing is done by the vertical acrylic with the electric cylinder.
@@FraensEngineering So would increasing the engines work? Or would it blow out the paper? Has this been tried? 🤔
The engines should be stronger. Then you could press more, and pushing them in would be easier.
@@FraensEngineering
First, let me say that your design is an inspiration. Really great work.
Additional Considerations:
The humidity of the tobacco is critical to both the loading and the tendency for the tobacco to fall out.
About 60%-65% relative humidity is the ideal range.
Above 65% and the tobacco tends to become sticky, clumping together and creating unnecessary drag on the injector walls, loading tube and the paper. Reversible by reducing the humidity.
Indications are: tube is pushed away early. Space close to the filter left unfilled. Tight spots in the m8ddle of the loaded paper.
Below 60% the tobacco begins to 'dust' and break down into smaller particles that don't interlock and compress into the tube.
This condition isn't reversible but can be mitigated by increasing the humidity. Once the tobacco breaks down though it will never return to a condition that will load or pack properly.
The most ideal leaf cut is "thread cut."
It has the surface area and compressability to provide both, uniform loading (same density throughout the tube) and good stability with the tobacco staying entangled with itself and not falling out.
I use a heavily modified Powermatic II, made by Zico. It has a robust loading system, strong motor a very good compression/cutting blade and well engineered spoon loader geometry.
What it lacks and what its subsequent design upgrade doesn't get right is the tube positioning system which you seem to have sorted out very nicely.
I've added a large 3D printed hopper (holds tobacco for 5 packs) and a humidity control/display system that keeps the tobacco in the ideal range for spoon loading machines.
Your tube alignment mechanism solves most of the remaining automation issues.
There is also a lesser issue with getting even compression of the tobacco as it is compressed into the loading chamber, which I think can be addressed with a rotating silicone blade or brush.
What remains unaddressed by either design appears to be a simple vibrator/shaker box and a trimmer to finish them neatly.
Thank you for sharing your brilliant design solutions. I hope my input has helped you in your efforts in some small way.
How much want to sell
How much to build me one complete like a version 2 more refined and everything covered in a completed shroud to cover all the vital moving parts that if bumped or accidentally have something dropped on it would ruin calibration or break more precise and fragile fine tuned pieces u kno 500 750 1000 1500 2000k what's up
Hello, at the moment I am not planning to build a second version. However, I would like to make some improvements. You can download the current version here: cults3d.com/de/modell-3d/werkzeuge/3d-printed-stuffing-machine
Now do it with Legos.
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Dear friend
Can u share stl files? Im from Turkey. I can share my mail. Sorry for my grammer.
Unfortunately I can't give out the files.
cool but way too complicated. I'd try to simplify and streamline the design.
Would you have any specific suggestions as well?
Fraens best project 👍👍👍💯💯💯.
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Cool, but Smoking Kills
I think nobody realy cares
Its like playing lotto u know u wont realy win
Who cares there's something else if its not because of smoking
Life ends with death, better prepare. 👍🏻
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Can u name one thing in this world that wont kill you? You needa grow up if your still afraid of dying
I rather not have rotten teeth, bad breath, taste disfunction, etc.
But I sure rather die quicker. I guess smoking has some benifits.
I hope you like the machine anyway ;-)
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My friends you just didn't answer me i'm so sorry 😔😔😔😔
Hi, certainly I answer you ;-)
I have to revise these models first. Currently, only the press is downloadable on Thingiverse.
@@FraensEngineering thanks friends 👍😀.
looking forward to loading the paper roulette files🙏
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