@@lbrtvlldr he sounds like a great boss. A boss can't expect to know everything. And I know I'm now alone laughing throughout this video . Maybe don't be so negative
Man it's so refreshing to see RUclips videos that have some actual craftsmanship involved. I'm an editor and only have one client right now and the only notes I ever get are, "Need subtitles here" and "retention feels low here," and then doesn't care that his lav is peaking like crazy like 80% of the time
I love the clients that want to increase retention but have low retention content start with or don't have enough footage or useable footage to even make a good edit with. Content is king ... the only thing you get when you try to polish a turd is crap on your hands.
honestly, i never realised just how big an influence simple SOUND EFFECTS and tiny tracks of music can have. all to audibly give a sense of whats happening and atmosphere. im so used to just listening to the choice of music track in movies, and how they influence our sense of the mood, but then seeing just how much editing lies in half a minute or something and its shocking
Wow, this is a great little breakdown. Never thought a sitdown with Daniel Thrasher would be where I learn so many good knowledge nuggets but here we are! The editing in his videos is top notch, so it makes sense
The Daniel Thrasher channel really relieves stress during my day. Knowing how the editing process works makes it so much better. Thanks for 4-5 years of sketches to make the day easier.
Looking at this make it so much clearer why Jordan Peele was able to transition into the role of a movie director so well. The amount of thought that goes into timing, sound design, blocking, etc... is all stuff you funny youtube guys do for every one of your hundreds of videos. I have a feeling we might see Daniel's career take a similar trajectory in the future and I'm hyped for it.
As someone who does my own sound design, this is incredibly helpful! Thank you! Where do you guys find sound effects, or do you make them yourself? Every sound seemed tailored to the shot, which would be really hard to find online.
As someone who edits my own comedy videos, it is very inspirational and compelling to see just how many layers go into these skits. And it all looks seamless in the end!
14:04 So that's why Daniel seems to like diving so much in horror-style sketches as of late... I know he's already made his acting debut, but I would love to see what he and his team can do with the budget for a full-length movie, because they've definitely got enough potential to try their hands at it. It could get either very scary, or absolutely hilarious, because you never know with Daniel!
The thumbnail is so true it hurts And sound design has been lacking in so many projects as of late Live action _and_ animation Professional and Fan made Well done tutorial🔥
Love the technicality break down. Also love the irony of Daniel telling us about how Editors who advertise on Craigslist leave in mistakes and his comparing of Writers sending an email with typos only to follow up the video at min 6:36 with a typo on screen. (Thoughout)? 😁😁
I'm a bit of a generalist can do it all to various levels of proficiency. I do sound desing for indie stuff every now and again and people just don't understand what's involved with post prod audio and only the barest of consideration is made to production sound and then they panic asking if I can fix it. By the way, a VST plugin I found that I love to quickly mix diagetics (sounds that exist in the world vs sounds that only the viewer hears) is PlaceIt by Soundly. Totally free and great. You can set the sound source, room reverb profile and it has a wall slider to make the sounds sound like they are coming through a wall or other ubstruction. It's also heart warming to see someone UNDERSTAND THAT AN EDITORS JOB IS DIFFICULT AND IMPORTANT. Props to Daniel for this.
"I've watched a gazillion videos on editing, but this one? It's like they're speaking a language of simple and hilariously ridiculous insanity! I'm speechless here!"
Hey I'm sure I'm a drop in the bucket but again, you, are, gold, for breaking the fourth wall here. I'm sure it can't really be a common video, but if you could figure out a format for this content to share like this, it would be a great source of good in the world. Thank you for being you. Been a fan for a long time, and seeing this reminds me how much effort goes in, as I don't create content unless it's a quick small lesson for my small child. I'd love to show off your vids to my kid, and I have, but to see this is amazing from this perspective. A million kudos my guy.
youtube recommended this video for me out of nowhere and oh boy how lucky i am for clicking in to it, so inspiring seeing you talk about your ideas and how you come up with a solution for everything, thanks for sharing your thinking process, one more subscriber!
Honestly, I've been struggling creatively as an editor for the past few months now, and this video just inspired me to start trying new things and just create shit on my own. So that as soon as I'm faced with a client, I can atleast have some new things in the bag instead of the same old methods I've been doing since I started editing 4 years ago.
I only dipped my toes into video editing, and one of the first things I discovered is that it is sound that brings everything to life. Can't underestimate how much immersion good sound design creates. You can have crappy, grainy visuals, but good sound, and you can still capture your audience. But if you have great visuals and crappy sound - all the magic dissapears.
Great video, Daniel, thanks for sharing your approach to sketch comedy and philosophy on comedy sound and filmmaking. Jeremy, your edits were perfect. I love everything you included and thanks for sharing about reduction and creating assets to pull the video together. Really inspiring, one of the best videos I've seen. You cover way more than just sound it's like a small workshop 💯
This was awesome and super informative, I'd love to see more of this. The hot vs cold water is crazy, and also I love that you guys are saying "him" as if the actors in the video are not also Daniel. xD
This is awesome! I appreciate the insight and how much goes into editing (Taking notes). This sketch is my favorite, so it's amazing to see the process for it. Great Acting and Editing!
6:33 they specified sound design. But didn’t truly dive deep into why they removed the SFX in the original dialogue. They added muffle for the knocking to establish distance. But after establishing distance. There wasn’t a need to keep up the muffled dialogue. What was more important was the CLARITY in what he was saying. We already have the distance in a few seconds of muffle. Now it’s time to focus on what he said. Hope this helps! TLDR: clarity is more important realism
This is so cool to see and learn. As someone who went to school for video and post production, this video has taught me so much more than a semester of classes. I love it!
this is awesome. i think my appreciation of good sound design is embarrassingly uninformed - like i grasp in general terms that it's important, but i don't know how one goes about accomplishing any specific feeling or vibe intentionally - and this is so instructive.
Firstly, this is great. Secondly...as a fellow editor, I hate seeing messy timelines with multiple video tracks stacked barbarically when none of those layers are doing anything. lol. Again this is great, and props on a nice edit, but my brain hurts looking at that timeline. 😂
I love the tip at the beginning with the music. I'm a music guy and not really a video guy, does final cut have a convolution reverb plugin, or a reverb plugin in general? A reverb with a really short tail or a convolution with a small room impulse would also make the music sound like it was "in the room" and also get a sense of space
4:56 YEAH, that is something you don't want, _although..._ we can't be 100% sure that the editor was set on a tight deadline from the Amelio's from the start, I think channel's like there's tend to do that a LOT
I love how the tape, which is supposed to cover the logo of the laptop, is about to fall off at 12:49. The next time you see the laptop, the tape has fallen off, but a digital cover is there instead.
"IF he listens to classical music recreationally, he's a serial killer." That one movie with Cuba Gooding Jr as a doctor that listens to classical music before a major surgery to keep his nerves calm.
Shout-out to regular waveforms, they let you do way more inside premiere when enabled (at least they did in 2017 last i used ACC, switched to resolve). They also just plain tell you more than the simplified waves that premiere defaults to.
7:30 instead of explaining what motion blur is, maybe explain what a match cut is? Since they are exactly talking about match cut. (Not that they are not mentioning motion blur but, thats not the topic is it?)
I found this amazing free VST by Soundly called Place It that's a bunch of impulses for really realistically placing sounds in environments. it processes a lot slower than a bandpass but it sounds so good
Can we get some editor love in the chat?
jeremy alvarez my beloved
I love him
❤❤❤
W Jeremy
Editor is good
I love how most of this video is Daniel realizing how much effort Jeremy put into editing 😭
Which makes Daniel look like a disgusting ass...
Daniel sounds like the typical boss everyone hates. Also, he's not funny.
Why @@lbrtvlldr
@@lbrtvlldr he sounds like a great boss. A boss can't expect to know everything. And I know I'm now alone laughing throughout this video . Maybe don't be so negative
@@lbrtvlldr You must be the other editor sitting in the cage.
The episode in which we see Danial be amazed by his editor in real time and ponders giving him a raise
danial is a river in egypt
you meant Denial
all of you are in denial 💁
Man it's so refreshing to see RUclips videos that have some actual craftsmanship involved. I'm an editor and only have one client right now and the only notes I ever get are, "Need subtitles here" and "retention feels low here," and then doesn't care that his lav is peaking like crazy like 80% of the time
I love the clients that want to increase retention but have low retention content start with or don't have enough footage or useable footage to even make a good edit with.
Content is king ... the only thing you get when you try to polish a turd is crap on your hands.
Feel you guys
My hype for Thrasher grows with every single thing I see of him.
He's a SOUND DESIGN MINOR?? Holy shit, my respect has grown by bounds
I don't know... He looks pretty old. 🤨
@@Minirow *Dr. Disrespect has entered the chat*
@@Minirowngl my first interpretation of ‘minor’ was sub 18 as well
This is such an incredibly valuable education to be so underground right now. I just can’t wait to see this channel hit a million subs.
Ikr, I learnt so much just by watching
These guys are just giving away years worth of audio, video and editing lessons and knowledge for free in 23 minutes.
honestly, i never realised just how big an influence simple SOUND EFFECTS and tiny tracks of music can have. all to audibly give a sense of whats happening and atmosphere.
im so used to just listening to the choice of music track in movies, and how they influence our sense of the mood, but then seeing just how much editing lies in half a minute or something and its shocking
I like that Daniel brings respect to his friends/help/editors
Can't believe how much I just learned in 20 minutes about sound, than 3 years of work in editing
It's so much more than sound effects
Wow, this is a great little breakdown. Never thought a sitdown with Daniel Thrasher would be where I learn so many good knowledge nuggets but here we are! The editing in his videos is top notch, so it makes sense
More Cut by Cut please! Would be cool to see the edits in some documentary productions!
The Daniel Thrasher channel really relieves stress during my day. Knowing how the editing process works makes it so much better. Thanks for 4-5 years of sketches to make the day easier.
I'll never watch Daniel Thrasher the same way again! You and your team are AWESOME!!!
This was so helpful as someone who’s just starting comedy writing/editing
the “straight man” “unusual man” thing is an amazing bit of writing advice
Looking at this make it so much clearer why Jordan Peele was able to transition into the role of a movie director so well. The amount of thought that goes into timing, sound design, blocking, etc... is all stuff you funny youtube guys do for every one of your hundreds of videos.
I have a feeling we might see Daniel's career take a similar trajectory in the future and I'm hyped for it.
As someone who does my own sound design, this is incredibly helpful! Thank you! Where do you guys find sound effects, or do you make them yourself? Every sound seemed tailored to the shot, which would be really hard to find online.
I haven't seen Daniel on my feed in awhile, but seeing all this effort in his videos and the thought process behind it all is beautiful.
Sound design and editing insight like this is a rare and valuable treasure! Thank you so much for sharing it with the world.
As someone who edits my own comedy videos, it is very inspirational and compelling to see just how many layers go into these skits. And it all looks seamless in the end!
8:08 This is one of my favorite facts. It's amazing how much we don't realize we know
14:04 So that's why Daniel seems to like diving so much in horror-style sketches as of late...
I know he's already made his acting debut, but I would love to see what he and his team can do with the budget for a full-length movie, because they've definitely got enough potential to try their hands at it. It could get either very scary, or absolutely hilarious, because you never know with Daniel!
Omg, yes. Especially how absolutely wonderful he was as the killer in just that little snippet
@@gracebonifabulous "Because if your case isn't bulletproof... you wish you were." 😅😉
Every bit of this video was worth to watch. EDITORSSSS Please concentrate What these people are spilling here 😍😍
The thumbnail is so true it hurts
And sound design has been lacking in so many projects as of late
Live action _and_ animation
Professional and Fan made
Well done tutorial🔥
Love the technicality break down. Also love the irony of Daniel telling us about how Editors who advertise on Craigslist leave in mistakes and his comparing of Writers sending an email with typos only to follow up the video at min 6:36 with a typo on screen. (Thoughout)? 😁😁
I'm a bit of a generalist can do it all to various levels of proficiency.
I do sound desing for indie stuff every now and again and people just don't understand what's involved with post prod audio and only the barest of consideration is made to production sound and then they panic asking if I can fix it.
By the way, a VST plugin I found that I love to quickly mix diagetics (sounds that exist in the world vs sounds that only the viewer hears) is PlaceIt by Soundly. Totally free and great. You can set the sound source, room reverb profile and it has a wall slider to make the sounds sound like they are coming through a wall or other ubstruction.
It's also heart warming to see someone UNDERSTAND THAT AN EDITORS JOB IS DIFFICULT AND IMPORTANT.
Props to Daniel for this.
Daniel referring to himself in the video in third person is my new vibe
"I've watched a gazillion videos on editing, but this one? It's like they're speaking a language of simple and hilariously ridiculous insanity! I'm speechless here!"
I’ve learned more about sound design from this video than my “sound design” class from uni. My teacher did not know how to use Audacity. 😅
I will never listen to classical music again
Facts are facts
you scared of getting caught middle woo woo sociopath baby?
I will only listen to classical music from now on. 😊
I listen to classical music sometimes :(
Ah but it’s fun
Hey I'm sure I'm a drop in the bucket but again, you, are, gold, for breaking the fourth wall here. I'm sure it can't really be a common video, but if you could figure out a format for this content to share like this, it would be a great source of good in the world.
Thank you for being you. Been a fan for a long time, and seeing this reminds me how much effort goes in, as I don't create content unless it's a quick small lesson for my small child. I'd love to show off your vids to my kid, and I have, but to see this is amazing from this perspective.
A million kudos my guy.
The most serious I have ever seen Daniel 😂
I had no idea how much work goes into editing a sketch. Fantastic work from both of you! Fascinating to watch.
As an editor this is absolutely fascinating to observe. I would love to see more of this style of breakdown from other creatives as well.
youtube recommended this video for me out of nowhere and oh boy how lucky i am for clicking in to it, so inspiring seeing you talk about your ideas and how you come up with a solution for everything, thanks for sharing your thinking process, one more subscriber!
Daniel keeps talking about all these characters like they’re not all just him
You have to separate yourself from your work or you go insane, remember Heath Ledger
If you don't know he's some old dude who died forever ago because of that stuff
This was actually incredibly educational. I didn't think you had it in you, Daniel.
Honestly, I've been struggling creatively as an editor for the past few months now, and this video just inspired me to start trying new things and just create shit on my own. So that as soon as I'm faced with a client, I can atleast have some new things in the bag instead of the same old methods I've been doing since I started editing 4 years ago.
I did not know how much thought was put into Daniel's video, this is truly eye-opening.
Editor/creator relationship seems really awesome.
Not even 2 minutes in, already a banger
Jeremy should know how much I love him. More now.
I only dipped my toes into video editing, and one of the first things I discovered is that it is sound that brings everything to life. Can't underestimate how much immersion good sound design creates. You can have crappy, grainy visuals, but good sound, and you can still capture your audience. But if you have great visuals and crappy sound - all the magic dissapears.
"Hydrochloric Acid!"
Funny how the killer just had it in a bottle, but the detective weaponized it
Great video,
Daniel, thanks for sharing your approach to sketch comedy and philosophy on comedy sound and filmmaking.
Jeremy, your edits were perfect. I love everything you included and thanks for sharing about reduction and creating assets to pull the video together.
Really inspiring, one of the best videos I've seen.
You cover way more than just sound it's like a small workshop 💯
I had no idea this much thought went into sound design, and I'm a musician. Very interesting video, thanks alot!
This was awesome and super informative, I'd love to see more of this. The hot vs cold water is crazy, and also I love that you guys are saying "him" as if the actors in the video are not also Daniel. xD
This is awesome! I appreciate the insight and how much goes into editing (Taking notes). This sketch is my favorite, so it's amazing to see the process for it. Great Acting and Editing!
6:33 they specified sound design. But didn’t truly dive deep into why they removed the SFX in the original dialogue.
They added muffle for the knocking to establish distance.
But after establishing distance. There wasn’t a need to keep up the muffled dialogue. What was more important was the CLARITY in what he was saying.
We already have the distance in a few seconds of muffle. Now it’s time to focus on what he said.
Hope this helps!
TLDR: clarity is more important realism
I read this title as "Daniels Trasher's Secrets to ending comedy" and thought it was a hit piece
This is so cool to see and learn. As someone who went to school for video and post production, this video has taught me so much more than a semester of classes. I love it!
amazing job by both thrasher and jeremy
very interesting content to learn as well --- I had no idea how important sound design was
9:06 - proof that daniel is the one both in front AND behind the camera, talking about how he filmed the shot with himself in it 😁
Wow this is really cool! I was wonder why Daniel hadn’t posted for a while but this is just as interesting and still made me laugh.
IM NOT A SERIAL KILLER PLEASE GUYS I JUST LIKE CLASSICAL
Sounds exactly like something a serial killer would say
That's what they all say
Okay? No one said you were
@@BattleCatsGuideWatcher Daniel said it.
😂🤣😆all these replies are exactly what i was going to comment too.
I got this video in my recommended 5 times, i finally watched it goddamnit.
what a fascinating insight into a process that so many viewers will never contend with. thank you both for sharing!
This is my absolute favorite Daniel thrasher video (followed closely by igowallah) so thank you!!!!
Ur crushing every single video man! keep up the good work.
EDITOR LOVE ❤❤❤❤❤ y'all do an amazing job on your sketches. I watch every single one, especially the vlogs😂
this is awesome. i think my appreciation of good sound design is embarrassingly uninformed - like i grasp in general terms that it's important, but i don't know how one goes about accomplishing any specific feeling or vibe intentionally - and this is so instructive.
Firstly, this is great.
Secondly...as a fellow editor, I hate seeing messy timelines with multiple video tracks stacked barbarically when none of those layers are doing anything. lol. Again this is great, and props on a nice edit, but my brain hurts looking at that timeline. 😂
Thank you so much, it has a real value for editors !!
Super interesting, super funny ! love your work
as a video editing major this is brilliant to see!
I love the tip at the beginning with the music. I'm a music guy and not really a video guy, does final cut have a convolution reverb plugin, or a reverb plugin in general? A reverb with a really short tail or a convolution with a small room impulse would also make the music sound like it was "in the room" and also get a sense of space
More Cut by Cut episodes please! Super fun and interesting topics and approach to teaching editing
The editing in this video about editing is really good.
Hey quick question, where do you source most of your sound effects from?
8:40 best approach by far, thank you!!!
4:56 YEAH, that is something you don't want, _although..._ we can't be 100% sure that the editor was set on a tight deadline from the Amelio's from the start, I think channel's like there's tend to do that a LOT
keep it up brothers , ur video get suggested by youtube to me on top when i serach sound design
im glad that even top tier editors name clips like "bad actin"
I love how the tape, which is supposed to cover the logo of the laptop, is about to fall off at 12:49. The next time you see the laptop, the tape has fallen off, but a digital cover is there instead.
Insane stuff. Cant believe this is all for free.
"IF he listens to classical music recreationally, he's a serial killer."
That one movie with Cuba Gooding Jr as a doctor that listens to classical music before a major surgery to keep his nerves calm.
awesome awesome series need this to explode
The hot / cold water difference is huge what the hell
Incredibly interesting video. And It really shows only a fraction of the work that goes into a successful video. Thank you.
Shout-out to regular waveforms, they let you do way more inside premiere when enabled (at least they did in 2017 last i used ACC, switched to resolve). They also just plain tell you more than the simplified waves that premiere defaults to.
Never knew i was a serial killer now i guess it's to get some work down. Thanks for opening my eyes
This channel is incredible! I have learnt so much watching these videos! Thank you!
We ❤ editors. It don’t matter for who ur editing, cuz the comments know who’s working with the actors of YT: the editors
Pure Masterclass on Editing ❤ Thanks!
This was so fun to look at
7:30 instead of explaining what motion blur is, maybe explain what a match cut is? Since they are exactly talking about match cut. (Not that they are not mentioning motion blur but, thats not the topic is it?)
So the editor deserves all the credit i see, that fair.
God this was so inspiring and educational
this is a really fascinating video, thanks for sharing that and good job to the editor
I wish more youtubers did this kind of editing walk-thru because I'm still kinda new to editing on Premiere
Get out while you can. Once you become a level 100, the software starts falling apart. You gotta switch to Flame
15:30 - In other words: _"Bloopers"!_ 😂
(Or something similar to those at any rate XD).
Omg so valuable for us creators who does it all.
I thought this is another skit when I saw the thumbnail. Thanks for the insight.
That was soooo cool!
This is FASCINATING.
1:20 that's doctor Hannibal Lecter cooking a "meal" right there
Love you editor ❤❤❤
I found this amazing free VST by Soundly called Place It that's a bunch of impulses for really realistically placing sounds in environments. it processes a lot slower than a bandpass but it sounds so good
I like it! Thank you!
This video has me enlivening all over!
This was really cool to see 👏🏻🤩