Good movie, but I feel it enables poker addiction. This is the story running in the back of every player's mind, just need one more hand and you too can sit down and beat Johnny C or a mafia bruiser.
@@andrewshouse9840 I heard a great review of the movie saying he won as soon as he was told to pursue his destiny by the professor. The 10 grand he was given and winning against KGB was just all part of the plan.
Horrible accent, but Malkovich is the character. Pet theory of mine- he is a Russian immigrant, but speaks perfect English, puts on this persona to intimidate and distract.
Sure…like a lot of people “don’t know” shit Trump says all the time. A lot of people don’t realize KGB is played by the same guy in “Being John Malkovich” years later.
@@why-even-try-brotendo I’ve seen some wise guys do it before, but I honestly don’t see the point cause it’s genuinely just a race between who hits and who doesn’t
Absolutely. I’m sure these guys had never had any real poker experience prior to shooting this film. So obviously, there was a tremendous amount of coaching from the pros. The acting, the facial expressions, the table presence, all the optics are what we would see in actual pro games.
Mike is the very definition of how NOT to play poker in this movie. Knish is the real hero here: a grinder, not some hero WSP wannabe who takes huge chances all the time. They should make a sequel called "Grinders" starring John Turturro as Knish again lol.
Justin Gomez Yup, exactly like I was thinking. It's why Ivey's never won a bracelet; he has to wade through a swamp of donks to even get relatively deep in the tournament. Any idiot can take a world champ out in a tournament, which is why I prefer cash games.
joydivsion77 I do definitely agree with you but Ivey has won many bracelets, unless you meant the Main Event then you're absolutely right. It's full of so many donks the top pros really struggle to make their way through so many terrible players sucking out on them.
I still hope to play in a bracelet event in some WSOP in the future and if, and that's HUUUUGE if LOL, I won then and only then would I play the Main Event.
Justin Gomez Yes, I was referring to the Main Event specifically. I really wish it was invitation only (I think it was like that in the '70's). If you are a rich sob and play tennis, you can't just enter Wimbledon because you have money; only the top 120 players IN THE WORLD get in. It should be the same in poker, go with a ranking system that starts just after WSOP and ends just before. Take maybe the first 1000 on the list and it would make the tourney so much more entertaining.
rounders is about good bankrollmanagement: first he loses all his roll on a cooler and is broke because of bad money management. then he gets into a whole lot of trouble and has to play heads up with the villain for his life. he wins and is free to go. but then he gets provoked and playes another round for his life. he learned his lesson :) OG, original gambler. love it!
Malkovich usually never does accents in his movies when playing historical/foreign characters. He usually sticks to his American accent. I wonder what made him change his ways in this movie. But KGB is sure as hell a character to remember.
My wife is Russian and I made her watch this movie with me, knowing Teddy’s accent was just godawful. Of course she just rolled her eyes during all his scenes, but now I get to talk to her in Teddy’s accent and she knows where it comes from. My favorite lines are, “very ah-grey-ess-eeve” and “Mr. Son of a beetch, let’s play sahm cardz.” Of, and of course, “pyay heem, pyay dat man heez myanee.”
Best acting by Malkovich in the movie at :40 seconds when Damon goes all in. He says nothing but his face says it all, has an awwwwwwww shit I just got fucked look. Notice the slight nervous tweek of his cheek at :50 seconds. Great stuff. Taaaaaaaake eeeet down......
Really? If you have a good read on an opponent and you understand their game you might consider it. Mike couldn't call. It was either raise all in or fold.
More like a crushingly good read. Players will think they're good with QQ, JJ, or AK. So if you read them for a 'good' hand and fold you are losing way more value than you're gaining.
@@PunkSlapper123 First, you never fold KK heads up. There is a 0.5% chance you are behind and even if you are you still have a 20% chance to win the hand. If you're the kind of guy that throws away $1000 with those odds then poker is not the game for you. Second, Mike can flat call here and really take KGB to the cleaners on later streets by disguising the strength of his hand. Since almost everybody expects Mike to jam all-in here with KK they will eliminate that hand from his range and they will likely stack off to him if they hit a pair of Jacks or Queens or even Kings.
@@connman8d617 for 10 grand, if I know my opponent has AA I can easily lay it down. It isn't something I would do often but if I played against someone over a long period of time and I was sure they had AA, I could make the fold. If I am going to put 10 grand in the middle I would like to have the best hand. A 1 in 5 shot isn't going to cut it. I play a lot of poker for a decent amount of money but I don't usually go all in preflop unless it is absolutely neccessary.
@@PunkSlapper123 okay. Let me put this another way. If somebody is so tight that their 3 bet range heads up includes AA and only AA then they are the nittiest nit that ever lived and you will destroy them long term by aggressing into them and folding any time they push back. But since those players would lose such a ridiculous amount of money playing heads up you would never encounter one heads up. So your "strategy" of folding KK heads up is about as useful as having a plan for what to do in case of a yeti bite.
Justin Bridges Good h'and, cetching thèt jack on the turran, you got lucky there. Zo, thèt's it then, hm? Jast laik a yang màn caming in for a qvikie. I.. feel.. so unsjiètisfied. You must feel proud and good, strong enough to beat the world!
Malkovich great range, what an actor. He plays a Russian Mob guy perfectly! By the way P*tin needs to play Russian Roulette with his band of thieves and killers.
0:39 actually you could call. true he will outflop you with an ace maybe a fifth of the time, but if he misses he might bluff into you, and if he does have a weaker pair and catches a bunch of undercards, or catches top pair with a hand like ace jack on a jack high board, he might try and get it in not knowing you have him all but dead.
I’ve played lots of cards, poker pitch. It all boils down to, where’s that one card that makes or breaks your hand. Is it out or still in the deck? It’s all in how you play that one card.
@@80teg I'm more bothered by the fact that win Mike deals on the J10cc hand he doesn't lay the community cards spread out, they're all half way on top of each other slightly fanned out.
They still should have gone after Worm! Even after Mike “cleared” the debt. Seems like a hurt to their street cred if all you have to do to get out of debt is to point to another guy and go “he’s good for my fuck up” and then run
This was a good move regardless if take KGB called. If he called you would have been 1 on 1 up against pocket kings which the way I see it has 2 out of 3 ways of winning. Yeah only 3 things can happen to that board. The Boer doesn't produce any cards that help the two players Or the 2nd thing I can happen he ends up getting 2 pair or 3 of a kind are flopping a full house or even quads with his king's. The 3rd situation is Teddy KGB hits his cards really well and it beats the pocket kings. So yeah in a 1 on 1 situation going all in with pocket kings if he doesn't have aces you ever I would say a 66% chance of winning.
Preflop KK wins 82% not 66%. And that is with AA in the calculation, without it's even higher. It is the second best hand you can have. There's a 0% chance you fold in this situation.
So, let me get this straight. After Mike re raises and goes all in KGB has to put in 5 grand to try and win 15 grand. So his pot odds are 3 to 1. How could he possibly fold? Hollywood I guess...
Head's up is a way different world. If he had pocket As, he's calling a shove pre-flop. No question there. But his re-raise is representing and he's likely working with an ace, probably ace-face. I don't see him folding on AK in head's up, either, so more likely it's AQ or AJ. Also possible he could have a mid pair, but if it isn't ace-face then it's more likely the other end, A5 or A4. Either way, he knew with the almost immediate shove that he ran into a high pair, and folded.
The point is the first time he wanted to earn more money for vegas. The second time he owed KGB a lot of money and paid that off, then had the 30k over. But I see your point as well.
Legend has it that Malkovich is still thrusting till this day
Malkovich is a complete Beast in this movie. One of the greatest actors, one of the best roles and one of the best movies ever!
This is pretty bad acting lol but very fun and entertaining and that's what's important
@@Sex-ij5ke interesting that you thought it was bad acting. I thought it was excellent. Amazing movie regardless
Rounders is one of the most underrated movies, I think. The story and the acting is amazing
The poker is shit though
samsung a10 the poker acting is shithouse you are correct
Good movie, but I feel it enables poker addiction. This is the story running in the back of every player's mind, just need one more hand and you too can sit down and beat Johnny C or a mafia bruiser.
@@andrewshouse9840 I heard a great review of the movie saying he won as soon as he was told to pursue his destiny by the professor. The 10 grand he was given and winning against KGB was just all part of the plan.
@@andrewshouse9840 Yes, and video games enable all violence in the world too huh.
Rounders is a fantastic movie.
One of my favorite movies of all time.
Kgb owns the scenes
The horrible accent is 100% genius and completely perfect for this movie somehow.
so true. nothing to do with Russian accent, but so unique at the same time
Horrible accent, but Malkovich is the character. Pet theory of mine- he is a Russian immigrant, but speaks perfect English, puts on this persona to intimidate and distract.
I read that he had a Russian lady friend and she read his lines into a tape recorder-then he listened to it and had the accent down.
It's all part of the character. A wannabe Russian badass who overdoes the accent (even though he actually is Russian).
And now that accent follows him to the showtime show Billions....classic!
Just like a young man coming in for a kvickie
+Zonex123 I veel zo unzatieezfied. I feel ahkay
Its like you have to re-learn spelling to type what he is saying. He reinveented Eengleesh
KHWVIKIE!!
All night dis son of bitch, he chick chick.... HE TLAPPED ME!!
"Feel free to reload at any time..."
"N'yob twoyu mat!" :P
I LOVE THE WAY HE SAYS "TAKE EET DOWIN"..
Matt Damon and Edward Norton are my two fave actors, add in the fact that I like to gamble and this is film is a classic for me. Love it.
"You can't lose what you don't put in the middle. But you can't win much either."
That is my mantra for life.
Is it working?
Dis son of bitch all night he...check, check, check!
A lot of people don't realise, Grama is played by the actor who played Jackie Aprile SR in The Sopranos
No shit
everyone knows haha
Sure…like a lot of people “don’t know” shit Trump says all the time.
A lot of people don’t realize KGB is played by the same guy in “Being John Malkovich” years later.
I love how kgb starts humping the air, then matt damon laughs and looks away for a few seconds. Then he looks back, and kgb is still humping 🤣
Do that at work when you want a promotion. It works!
😂
@@TraumaER Didn't work.. I got fired. Thanks!
@@Captain_Crayzay 🤷🏼♂️
😅😂🤣😆part where KGB begins talkin smack after he lost that 1st wave of plays.
Gee I wish everyone I played against had a tell with an Oreo fucking cookie!
Eats the Oreo, strong hand Not eat the Oreo, weak hand. Yeah, that's a heck of a tell.
+thowdy that wasn't it. It was if he ate the frosting side.
Tai sitten domino keksi...en tiiä sitten.. perkeles...
“He’s representing Aces.”
Back in the days when a 3-bet meant that you actually had a hand lol
J Ygb Mike raised preflop, and then KGB re-raised(3-bet) to $5000.
He called a raise with Aces honey... Idiot from northern Europe "
Let's be real, no one has ever folded pocket kings preflop in heads up.
@@VLAD_P_ literally choked laughing LOL
@@why-even-try-brotendo I’ve seen some wise guys do it before, but I honestly don’t see the point cause it’s genuinely just a race between who hits and who doesn’t
As a poker player I would consider this the best poker movie ever, superb acting, awesome storyline, it has everything that makes up a good movie..
Cincinnati Kid with Steve Mcqueen is so much better
@@lcb4082 no.
Absolutely. I’m sure these guys had never had any real poker experience prior to shooting this film. So obviously, there was a tremendous amount of coaching from the pros. The acting, the facial expressions, the table presence, all the optics are what we would see in actual pro games.
Cincinnati Kid...you're good kid, but as long as I'm around, you're second best...Lancey Howard
Mike is the very definition of how NOT to play poker in this movie. Knish is the real hero here: a grinder, not some hero WSP wannabe who takes huge chances all the time. They should make a sequel called "Grinders" starring John Turturro as Knish again lol.
Very true. Which is why usually the main event winners disappear never really making much noise after.
Justin Gomez Yup, exactly like I was thinking. It's why Ivey's never won a bracelet; he has to wade through a swamp of donks to even get relatively deep in the tournament. Any idiot can take a world champ out in a tournament, which is why I prefer cash games.
joydivsion77 I do definitely agree with you but Ivey has won many bracelets, unless you meant the Main Event then you're absolutely right. It's full of so many donks the top pros really struggle to make their way through so many terrible players sucking out on them.
I still hope to play in a bracelet event in some WSOP in the future and if, and that's HUUUUGE if LOL, I won then and only then would I play the Main Event.
Justin Gomez Yes, I was referring to the Main Event specifically. I really wish it was invitation only (I think it was like that in the '70's). If you are a rich sob and play tennis, you can't just enter Wimbledon because you have money; only the top 120 players IN THE WORLD get in. It should be the same in poker, go with a ranking system that starts just after WSOP and ends just before. Take maybe the first 1000 on the list and it would make the tourney so much more entertaining.
Damon grab the chips so fast when he say take it down
Leaning over toward Teddy staring him down as he pulls the chips in.
"its not about ego or pride"
Makes it all about ego and pride lmfao
rounders is about good bankrollmanagement:
first he loses all his roll on a cooler and is broke because of bad money management. then he gets into a whole lot of trouble and has to play heads up with the villain for his life. he wins and is free to go. but then he gets provoked and playes another round for his life. he learned his lesson :)
OG, original gambler. love it!
Malkovich usually never does accents in his movies when playing historical/foreign characters. He usually sticks to his American accent. I wonder what made him change his ways in this movie. But KGB is sure as hell a character to remember.
And then he fails the beginners rule-never let emotion take over.
My wife is Russian and I made her watch this movie with me, knowing Teddy’s accent was just godawful. Of course she just rolled her eyes during all his scenes, but now I get to talk to her in Teddy’s accent and she knows where it comes from. My favorite lines are, “very ah-grey-ess-eeve” and “Mr. Son of a beetch, let’s play sahm cardz.” Of, and of course, “pyay heem, pyay dat man heez myanee.”
more like "pey zat mehn heez mahnee"
Next time I play poker I want a rack full of oreos that says 'don't touch.
There is no way anybody has seen this movie more times than I have.....
The aggressive part was about to come when he trapped him with his check, check, check....
I loved Teddy KGBs part in Billions!
yea, i hope his character comes back
in a room full of card players John Malkovich is the only real actor here.
"EETS Ah Fahking Jwyohk Enyvay"
Even thinking about folding Kings in a heads up match againts a maniac like KGB is absurd... straight up
"Table stakes." -Teddy KGB
“Table steaks”
0:42 kgb is like, this guy is fucking serious!!!!😂😂😂😂
This movie needed a sequel
Remember when worm told those dudes to cut the Sputnik? 🤣
Such an awesome film and cast!
Vièry aggrièssive, but!
"Knish how you doing?" ......His answer? "The same" .... I've always loved that answer. I guess the same means still a hustler, still a grinder.
Best acting by Malkovich in the movie at :40 seconds when Damon goes all in. He says nothing but his face says it all, has an awwwwwwww shit I just got fucked look. Notice the slight nervous tweek of his cheek at :50 seconds. Great stuff. Taaaaaaaake eeeet down......
I thought he was calling for his grandma.
Grama
Over the years this movie gets better they need to do a sequel
Iconic cookie
Malkovich was pro in this movie
He's pro in every movie lol
He's representing Aces, because Teddy never 3-bets for value heads up with anything other than Aces.
Love Big Teddy.
He sounds like Christoph Waltz.
Double the blinds? A very calm “yeah”.
KGB is the man
Like a young man coming in for a kvickie
Veree agree esive
You're amazing
I can't help it. This is how I say aggressive when I say it because of this movie :)
20 big blinds - 100 big blinds - fold. LOL.
"Von't vee pushed alound"
damn right
Like a young man coming in for a quicky😄
Teddy KGB is awesome
if youre thinking about folding kk heads up you are doing something wrong
Really? If you have a good read on an opponent and you understand their game you might consider it. Mike couldn't call. It was either raise all in or fold.
More like a crushingly good read. Players will think they're good with QQ, JJ, or AK. So if you read them for a 'good' hand and fold you are losing way more value than you're gaining.
@@PunkSlapper123 First, you never fold KK heads up. There is a 0.5% chance you are behind and even if you are you still have a 20% chance to win the hand. If you're the kind of guy that throws away $1000 with those odds then poker is not the game for you. Second, Mike can flat call here and really take KGB to the cleaners on later streets by disguising the strength of his hand. Since almost everybody expects Mike to jam all-in here with KK they will eliminate that hand from his range and they will likely stack off to him if they hit a pair of Jacks or Queens or even Kings.
@@connman8d617 for 10 grand, if I know my opponent has AA I can easily lay it down. It isn't something I would do often but if I played against someone over a long period of time and I was sure they had AA, I could make the fold. If I am going to put 10 grand in the middle I would like to have the best hand. A 1 in 5 shot isn't going to cut it. I play a lot of poker for a decent amount of money but I don't usually go all in preflop unless it is absolutely neccessary.
@@PunkSlapper123 okay. Let me put this another way. If somebody is so tight that their 3 bet range heads up includes AA and only AA then they are the nittiest nit that ever lived and you will destroy them long term by aggressing into them and folding any time they push back. But since those players would lose such a ridiculous amount of money playing heads up you would never encounter one heads up. So your "strategy" of folding KK heads up is about as useful as having a plan for what to do in case of a yeti bite.
dude I love the way he talks, I go around quoting him in that accent all the time soo fun.. MR son of beech, lets play sam cahhds
Justin Bridges Good h'and, cetching thèt jack on the turran, you got lucky there. Zo, thèt's it then, hm? Jast laik a yang màn caming in for a qvikie. I.. feel.. so unsjiètisfied. You must feel proud and good, strong enough to beat the world!
@@0x28 "unsjietisfied" - perfect.
This guy and agent Kruger from Elysium are two best accents of all time. Also maybe Arnold in some of his movies.
@@reidkemp have you seen district 9? You’ll love his accent in that. Yao shneeky fokin prauwns, yao trrrryun tu tayk orf?
KK heads up? Gosh, I can't know that this was the correct decision unless I spot the perfect tell!
25/50...Raise 20BB in the SB and 3 bet to 100BB....😬😵💫
I'm steel ahp twenty gland from dis last time I steek it in yew.
I'm sure a lot of us who watch the movie have had a guy like Worm in your lives. A guy your girlfriend or wife hated.
Malkovich great range, what an actor. He plays a Russian Mob guy perfectly! By the way P*tin needs to play Russian Roulette with his band of thieves and killers.
"just like a young man come in for a quicky... feeling so un-shittisfied..." LOL.
I love that silent 'Yop Tvoyu Mat' at the end there...
@4:23
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Lol
0:39 actually you could call. true he will outflop you with an ace maybe a fifth of the time, but if he misses he might bluff into you, and if he does have a weaker pair and catches a bunch of undercards, or catches top pair with a hand like ace jack on a jack high board, he might try and get it in not knowing you have him all but dead.
Couldn't it also be possible he had suited connectors and not expecting All In Raise didn't want to chance it on the first hand of the game?
@@TRivera13 true, all the more reason 2 flat call. maybe he will buff shove flop with them expecting folds from a magrinal non kings strength hand
@@justiceseeker2nd963 If it was later in the game KGB might've done exactly that.
When you only have 2 players, you don't check. You either fold or all in. The moment you check, you are revealing a weakness.
😂😂🤣😂🤣 You are a very good player i thing,,how big is your bankroll?
KGB let him win the first freeze out. He showed sympathy to Mike and then goaded him into staying. Always walk away when you're ahead.
The KBG character reminds me of some REAL Russian gangsters I met in Manhattan in the early 90s
Too much filosofy for KK hand preflop :)
If folding KKs crosses ur mind while playing heads up then you need to find a new game!
String bets...string bets everywhere.
Jason McGraw small world... hope things are going good for you. Are you still working at the Embassy these days?
John Malkovich was brilliant in this role
KGB it's amazing how big poker has become
love the oreo tell.
@wiseguy1989xx I agree even late 90's early 2000's Limit was still the most widely played game...
Nooooooooooooo Teddy...not the cookie!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I’ve played lots of cards, poker pitch. It all boils down to, where’s that one card that makes or breaks your hand. Is it out or still in the deck? It’s all in how you play that one card.
How does 3 equal stacks equal 5 sousand dollars?
I was just thinking that... because it seems like they're the same chips that Mike put out
Rounders fans will go to their graves wondering that. I notice it every fucking time I rewatch this god damn movie.
@@80teg I'm more bothered by the fact that win Mike deals on the J10cc hand he doesn't lay the community cards spread out, they're all half way on top of each other slightly fanned out.
bcuz he raised $5000 more...so $6000 total...each stack $2000
I don't know what you're home game is like, but we always play with 83.33 denomination chips.
It’s so mafia how he gets him to keep playing
Sounds like an accent Dee would do on its always sunny
Despite all its flaws I still love this movie, especially scenes like this.
A movie doesn't need to be perfect to hit home, I just wish most people would think that way today.
i like the "CHEX" at 4:04
Love it...
KGB has Jacks.
Or Queens
Lol even contemplating folding kings in a head up match pre
That Oreo was method as fuck
very "AH-gray -ESS-ive"
This was great acting i love this movie fantastic
love this movie
Teddy had poket fives 1:44 😉
i love this movie
They still should have gone after Worm! Even after Mike “cleared” the debt. Seems like a hurt to their street cred if all you have to do to get out of debt is to point to another guy and go “he’s good for my fuck up” and then run
Veddy Agreiyssive
Fucking great movie I hope they do a sequel in the future
This was a good move regardless if take KGB called. If he called you would have been 1 on 1 up against pocket kings which the way I see it has 2 out of 3 ways of winning. Yeah only 3 things can happen to that board. The Boer doesn't produce any cards that help the two players Or the 2nd thing I can happen he ends up getting 2 pair or 3 of a kind are flopping a full house or even quads with his king's. The 3rd situation is Teddy KGB hits his cards really well and it beats the pocket kings. So yeah in a 1 on 1 situation going all in with pocket kings if he doesn't have aces you ever I would say a 66% chance of winning.
Preflop KK wins 82% not 66%. And that is with AA in the calculation, without it's even higher.
It is the second best hand you can have. There's a 0% chance you fold in this situation.
Judy im all in
I just realized I don't even pronounce it aggressive anymore. I always use agre-essive because of this movie.
Look at all that string betting.
love this film
So, let me get this straight. After Mike re raises and goes all in KGB has to put in 5 grand to try and win 15 grand. So his pot odds are 3 to 1. How could he possibly fold? Hollywood I guess...
If he has an underpair, it makes sense. With QQ he would have basically two outs.
Head's up is a way different world. If he had pocket As, he's calling a shove pre-flop. No question there. But his re-raise is representing and he's likely working with an ace, probably ace-face. I don't see him folding on AK in head's up, either, so more likely it's AQ or AJ. Also possible he could have a mid pair, but if it isn't ace-face then it's more likely the other end, A5 or A4. Either way, he knew with the almost immediate shove that he ran into a high pair, and folded.
prolly a kk vs ak fold
This guy is a fish 👆
KGB was bluffing that’s why
The point is the first time he wanted to earn more money for vegas. The second time he owed KGB a lot of money and paid that off, then had the 30k over.
But I see your point as well.