expression and tone is made in the bow - the left hand is like the words we speak but the right is the air and throat that makes sound possible, in this I see vibrato as more sophisticated speaker rather than having as much to due with the tone.
The shift was interesting. We have recordings of Joachim and Sarasate, though they were both quite old at the time. Vibrato is very present, though not as much as today. Ysaye was the first "modern" violinist in this regard, where vibrato became much a part of the personality of the violinist. This was solidified with Kreisler, and then Elman, using their unique, throbbing vibrato constantly. They had such a big impact that, since then, violinists have mostly used vibrato in this way, with a few exceptions
Will you do a video on how you go about memorizing music? Performing from memory is probably my greatest music related fear and there doesn’t seem to be much helpful information about the topic from violinists online.
Especially, how you keep track on where you are. A story Vengerov told about finding himself cycling through a piece by Bach, finding himself back at the beginning and improvising his way to an end is where I am on a regular basis. I started to give myself little key note cues, but it's a constant struggle.
being a "jazz" violinist it's a relief to have the option to vibrate how I want (hahaha), however I am always striving to develop a more classical vibrato, ...and while knowing all the most common exercises, I love all these kinds of "little" tips to integrate and work on. Btw, my vibrato suffers the most when playing in front of a listening room as opposed to background, cocktail style performances. The nervousness does weird things to my vibrating muscles, even though I don't suffer from 'shaky' bow as much anymore. The development of control that you mention is really the key for me, so that no matter the circumstances, my muscles will obey my command and do what they are able to do in the practice room but in front of an attentive audience, thank you for this!
I’m a Jazz , Blues, and World Music player. ( Was heavily influenced by Smith, Williams, and Blake) What I’ve found is that the faster the phrase the less vibrato is called for… Bebop and Avant Garde style music are very sparse in applications. But Modern Jazz needs more “Soul” …and expressive colors. So I’ve been adding more of that big beautiful classical vibrato back in 👍🏽 I’ve even been using more bow 😂😂😂😂 Took a few lessons here at the academy to get more bang in my playing Keep swinging
I think you’re referring to leopold auers book violin playing as I teach it, he said it is tasteless to use vibrato all the time and it makes the food bland in his vibrato/ left hand portion of the book.
It's been a while since I read his book and I don't remember that bit, but that is interesting considering Auer played with fairly constant vibrato and his two most prominent students (Elman and Heifetz) had some of the most constant and intense vibratos. In Flesch's book, as well, he comments on the change that happened in his lifetime of using vibrato sparingly to constant use. He didn't have a strong opinion on it, but wondered whether or not it might have something to do with being in a more "decadent" age
No, you’re not. I commented on it in another video about a year ago. I think he has re-recorded it since then, and the uppermost octave sounds better. But the middle section to me still sounds a bit out of tune. Since harmonics comprise such a large portion of each note’s tone quality, being even the tiniest bit off can deaden the overall tone of a passage. I’ve been a teacher for many years. I don’t have perfect intonation myself all of the time, but I can recognize it & teach it. It is a never ending quest for some of us, sadly.
Re: tension How many pro violinists have low body fat and do 100 pullup exercises a day so that the holding up of the arms is effortless? Is there even 1 pro violinist who has high body fat?
David Oistrakh, Isaac Stern, Mark Peskanov, Itzhak Perlman, Eugene Ysaye, and Josef Gingold were all pretty fat. As for today's violinists, the image is as much as the package as your playing, so a lot of them do try to look good, but while violinists should exercise, being physically fit has little to do with your playing abilities
Nice video. Now im a folk musician, and vibrato is rarely if ever used in that genre. However i always wanted to learn to vibrate tones since done correct it does add a lot to a musical piece. But im quite certain i am too stiff in my hand wrist to do a vibrato. I have watched your instructional videos, but i just dont have the motion/range and relaxation in my hand/forearm.
Vibrato is only like seasoning in that the whole violin world is used to it so that's what you are used to. It's like American food with extra sugar, where American's now have to have sugar in everything that becomes their default taste. Isabelle Faust sounds so much better and purer than the soupy and/or spasmodic sound that the violin world is used to.
expression and tone is made in the bow - the left hand is like the words we speak but the right is the air and throat that makes sound possible, in this I see vibrato as more sophisticated speaker rather than having as much to due with the tone.
Jelly d’Aranyi recalled Joseph Joachim's advice, “Never too much vibrato! That’s circus music.”
The shift was interesting. We have recordings of Joachim and Sarasate, though they were both quite old at the time. Vibrato is very present, though not as much as today.
Ysaye was the first "modern" violinist in this regard, where vibrato became much a part of the personality of the violinist. This was solidified with Kreisler, and then Elman, using their unique, throbbing vibrato constantly. They had such a big impact that, since then, violinists have mostly used vibrato in this way, with a few exceptions
Will you do a video on how you go about memorizing music? Performing from memory is probably my greatest music related fear and there doesn’t seem to be much helpful information about the topic from violinists online.
Especially, how you keep track on where you are. A story Vengerov told about finding himself cycling through a piece by Bach, finding himself back at the beginning and improvising his way to an end is where I am on a regular basis. I started to give myself little key note cues, but it's a constant struggle.
Vibrato is the seasoning.👌
being a "jazz" violinist it's a relief to have the option to vibrate how I want (hahaha), however I am always striving to develop a more classical vibrato, ...and while knowing all the most common exercises, I love all these kinds of "little" tips to integrate and work on. Btw, my vibrato suffers the most when playing in front of a listening room as opposed to background, cocktail style performances. The nervousness does weird things to my vibrating muscles, even though I don't suffer from 'shaky' bow as much anymore.
The development of control that you mention is really the key for me, so that no matter the circumstances, my muscles will obey my command and do what they are able to do in the practice room but in front of an attentive audience,
thank you for this!
😊
I’m a Jazz , Blues, and World Music player. ( Was heavily influenced by Smith, Williams, and Blake)
What I’ve found is that the faster the phrase the less vibrato is called for…
Bebop and Avant Garde style music are very sparse in applications.
But Modern Jazz needs more “Soul” …and expressive colors.
So I’ve been adding more of that big beautiful classical vibrato back in 👍🏽
I’ve even been using more bow 😂😂😂😂
Took a few lessons here at the academy to get more bang in my playing
Keep swinging
Speaking as an amateur pianist ...
God, violin is so hard!
Speaking as a professional violinist, ‘Piano (music) is so hard, pianists are better musicians!’
@@pengnian898
In so far as you are a professional violinist, it ought to be completely obvious to you that violin is much harder than piano.
Thank you ❤ my vibrato is also wide and slow, i should learn wrist vibrato 😝
Greetings from Germany 🇩🇪
Bad vibrato habits are quite difficult to break because they are just so fun😅😅
Each string of the violin must have a different width and oscillation of vibrato according to its natural frequency...
Bro I just to learn how Hilary Hahn's vibrato is so good at the end of the fingerboard 😭
I think you’re referring to leopold auers book violin playing as I teach it, he said it is tasteless to use vibrato all the time and it makes the food bland in his vibrato/ left hand portion of the book.
It's been a while since I read his book and I don't remember that bit, but that is interesting considering Auer played with fairly constant vibrato and his two most prominent students (Elman and Heifetz) had some of the most constant and intense vibratos.
In Flesch's book, as well, he comments on the change that happened in his lifetime of using vibrato sparingly to constant use. He didn't have a strong opinion on it, but wondered whether or not it might have something to do with being in a more "decadent" age
You are such a wounderful teacher, full of motivation and kindness on your explanations! Thank you for all your sharing.
Brilliant Tobiah! Thank you so much. G Ire (adult student)
I get pumped up when a new video comes out!
(viola)
Am I the only one that thinks the opening Murphy Music Academy video is slightly out of tune?
Probably
No, you’re not. I commented on it in another video about a year ago. I think he has re-recorded it since then, and the uppermost octave sounds better. But the middle section to me still sounds a bit out of tune. Since harmonics comprise such a large portion of each note’s tone quality, being even the tiniest bit off can deaden the overall tone of a passage. I’ve been a teacher for many years. I don’t have perfect intonation myself all of the time, but I can recognize it & teach it. It is a never ending quest for some of us, sadly.
I approve of this (entire) message.
It's the "high note face"
Well done for all this intensive practice!
Re: tension
How many pro violinists have low body fat and do 100 pullup exercises a day so that the holding up of the arms is effortless?
Is there even 1 pro violinist who has high body fat?
David Oistrakh, Isaac Stern, Mark Peskanov, Itzhak Perlman, Eugene Ysaye, and Josef Gingold were all pretty fat.
As for today's violinists, the image is as much as the package as your playing, so a lot of them do try to look good, but while violinists should exercise, being physically fit has little to do with your playing abilities
Nice video. Now im a folk musician, and vibrato is rarely if ever used in that genre.
However i always wanted to learn to vibrate tones since done correct it does add a lot to a musical piece. But im quite certain i am too stiff in my hand wrist to do a vibrato. I have watched your instructional videos, but i just dont have the motion/range and relaxation in my hand/forearm.
Those comments are exactly my music and my problem.
Ray❤❤❤
I noticed that too
Thanks
here's my three reasons
left fingers
left hand
left arm
xd
Well. . .you're not wrong!
Vibrato is only like seasoning in that the whole violin world is used to it so that's what you are used to. It's like American food with extra sugar, where American's now have to have sugar in everything that becomes their default taste. Isabelle Faust sounds so much better and purer than the soupy and/or spasmodic sound that the violin world is used to.
😊
A wise professor once told me "Vibrato is the life of the music and lack of it makes the music dead."
How do u do arm vibrato and why use it?
more sunscreen! :D