1920s was pretty spectacular for massive multi-winged aircraft, but the '50s were replete with aircraft with powerful engines and problematic control characteristics.
Can we take a moment to appreciate the testicular fortitude of the men who actually strapped into things like the Pogo to fly it? I wouldn't get within a ZIP code of that thing.
fyi: the MAN acronym means Maschinenfabrik (machine factory in) Augsburg-Nürnberg (Nuremberg), and their usual staple was the construction of trucks and buses
Those flying jeep concepts remind me of the modern flying car /rideable drones of today's designs. The more things change the more they remain the same.
And I firmly believe that a similar product will be of military worth in short order, especially if they can be produced such that many of them can be folden/packed into a standard shipping container and have decent load bearing capacity and/or range. Electric quadrotors would also have quite a low heat signature- helping survivability.
They are as worthless as flying cars. More so, since an actual Jeep or a conventional helicopter can actually carry a decent payload, while these things are doing all they can to just not kill you.
This was the period when sf was describing a future where flying car would be used instead of regular cars. So a flying jeep isn't so strange. Never mind that the only reason given to needing flying car is avoiding trafic. There are very few cases where the reason is not building a road infrostructure. I never found a case where the reason for flying cars is: going in a strait line not following road, or higher speed. This look like 3D film that don't seems to have any reason to exists outside of "a more immersive experience". And that is still going today.
That last shot of the flying Jeep is my favorite. I love how they've got a .50 cal up there. It's not, like, manned or anything. It's just up there, on a tripod, like an afterthought.
You have no idea of how many 11 year old boys drooled over the models of the XFV-1 and 2 in 195 What happened to the Ryan X-55 We never did get the VTO interceptor Chance-Vought had something like that called the "flying flapjack" that had two propeller engines in about 1945 but the jet engine kind of scratched that one
My grandpa had a cool color picture of the Convair XFV always on the wall when I was a kid I never knew much about it but I always loved looking at it, what an unlocked memory that was. I forgot about that since the 90s holy shit. I wonder where all that stuff went when he died, that would have been cool to keep.
I don't want to distract from the topic entirely, but the V-22 Osprey has its fair share of critics and for good reason. for such a "new" aircraft it has a notable incident record
My buddy flys them. I brought up the incident record and he stated that they have to read aloud all the names of the personnel that died during it's polishing phase.
Not only that, they also developed a conceptual twin rotor vtol recon aircraft, equal in design to the Ospray. It was build and tested after the war, thought only as a Stol vehicle, as the rotors were not tilted the full 90°.
it would be cool to see more yak 131, it was 'mass produced' in a sovet flavored morgan kind of way, but it paved the way for the 'modern' style vtol now
Not sure if it would be a megaproject or sideproject, but i would love a video of the Swedish Archer system, or mabye the Saab 37 Viggen, like when they locked on to a Blackbird
Great video. you've remind me of what someone once said💖 "The mind is the man, the poor is in it and the rich is it too". This sentence is the secret of most successful investors. I once attended similar and ever since then i been waxing strong financially, and i most tell you the truth..
I'm actually surprised 4-rotor large-sized drones haven't been more fully developed both commercially and militarily. We've learned so much from personal drone aircraft and the technology and electronics are so sophisticated now that literally a child can fly one. Far more stable than a helicopter-
Well, the deal is that larger rotors are usually more efficient, and quad rotors only seem to be _as_ stable as they do because of computer control, which is an advantage that you can apply to conventional helicopters too...
This was an extremely informative video - Cheers! The avrocar.. soaring at heights of your waist! As hard as it is to keep a drone flying your first time - imagine having to SIT in it!
you can see the evolution of simons beard over the years it seems like it gets longer and longer it probably will reach the floor in 10 years lol #BeardGang #Respect
The DO-31 was fantastically engineered and well executed. At a time when computers were still relatively basic, it was reportedly easy to fly without requiring them, and without bad habits. It was also a beautiful aircraft.
The Avrocar. Projected performance: mach 3 at 100,000 ft. Actual performance: never exceeded 30 mph and could not get above 4 ft off the ground at best. That guy had a lot of nerve calling himself an engineer.
With modern computer control a tail sitter would now be possible. Whether practical is another story. The VJ101's similar looks to the Starfighter is no coincidence. With the Starfighter already in W-German production the VJ101 is basically a 6 engine VTOL version of this single engine aircraft.
@@mirzaahmed6589 yeah in 30 years we will be talking about how they never have invisible helicopters anymore or something. Everything we know is just what everyone else has now.
We’ve figured out the physics already and have proper computerized modeling programs to test new aero designs without having to build prototypes until the design is near production ready.
Does anyone know if Simon has done a video on the tank that busts land mines? It’s got massive chains that whip the ground in front of it and they detonate mines or breaks them with the force and looks super weird
Very strange but interesting machines 😂🛩️ That third 1 looked like a manned Nuclear Bomb, whilst that EWR VJ101 looked like a Thunderbirds plane! Good 1 on that insurance joke! LOL 🤣🤣
the Curtiss-Wright VZ-7 looks a lot like scaled up version of several different modern drones ... I wonder if Simon will talk about things like the drones we can buy.
The Avrocar was not scrapped but can be found in all its glory (ha ha!) at the USAF Museum in Dayton, Ohio. A second protototype apparently exists at another museum.
Have to wonder if someone like Elon Musk took up the challenge today to rework an Avro Car or Curtiss-Wright into mass production vehicles. I know I've seen a few images of "Flying Mtorcycles" that look like a VZ-7/modern drone crossed with a Star Wars speeder bike.
I've seen videos of at least one, but I honestly doubt that they'll ever be a great design. Honestly, for a "Flying Jeep", I'd be looking at either a hovercraft with computer controls (whether conventional skirt design, or WIG craft), or an aircraft with a wing designed after the "flying pancake" mounted to a vertical pylon like some weird relative of a Catalina (and for much the same clearance reasons).
@ 11:25 oh sh#t, that's the world's first quad-copter/food processor/sausage grinder- I _really_ wouldn't want to be the guy in that seat when that thing goes down...
Simon, Greetings! It's still worth reviewing the vtol fighter aircraft (manufacturers/types): MIG YAK-36/38/41 Hawker(?) Harrier the loser to the F-35 competition. Thank you! Jay Deister
Have you thought of videos on the JRM Martin Mars flying boat or the AH-56 Cheyenne?? The Mars was produced in 1945 and still used today and the Cheyenne was a design for the the AAFSS program where both it and S-67 Blackhawk were too ahead of their time. BTW love the videos
-flying saucer- nope, what the canuck designed was a skirtless hovercraft. There's a reason why a hovercraft has a skirt, something to do with stability.
Has any aircraft designer asked any pilots what they prefer about fly by wire because the whole go back and start all over again when it comes to experimental aircraft seems to repeat itself no matter what decade its being designed in.
The big problem with VTOL is they suck fuel like nothing short of a rocket engine. Tail sitters might be practical today with digital flight controls. Another variation on VTOL is the tilt wing. The US came close to putting the XC-142 into production.
Thank you for making an effort to pronounce words and names in foreign languages! I was surprised to hear Piasecki pronounced that way, but then went back and looked at the spelling. If it's Polish, that's just about right. Kudos!
5:30 I am dying that Simon said a plane was "dummy Thiccc". My first great laugh of the year!
Best part of the video - Some of Simon’s commentary is hilarious!
Ahhh the 1950s. The golden age of bonkers military design and a gold mine for RUclipsrs. Thanks Simon for another excellent video.
and an age of discovery about flight that we all benefit from now
1920s was pretty spectacular for massive multi-winged aircraft, but the '50s were replete with aircraft with powerful engines and problematic control characteristics.
Can we take a moment to appreciate the testicular fortitude of the men who actually strapped into things like the Pogo to fly it? I wouldn't get within a ZIP code of that thing.
Lol
As the man moved about the surface of the Earth is introduced a wobble in the Earth's rotation.
Thats why they originally recruited astronauts from the ranks of test pilots.
Only reason they all failed was because the payload wasn't rated for the weight of the pilots balls
1:05 - Chapter 1 - Lockheed XFV convair XFY
4:00 - Chapter 2 - Snecma coleoptere
7:15 - Chapter 3 - VJ 101
11:00 - Chapter 4 - The flying jeep
14:20 - Chapter 5 - Avrocar
17:50 - Chapter 6 - The skies as they are
5:30 Simon says dummy thicc
Can you do the history of The Thunderbirds?
It's a tragic, wonderful story of military grade aircraft that wondered millions.
Thunderbirds Are Go
Sure! Suggesting it to the writers :)
fyi: the MAN acronym means Maschinenfabrik (machine factory in) Augsburg-Nürnberg (Nuremberg), and their usual staple was the construction of trucks and buses
It's still their usual staple I think, I see plenty of MAN trucks and buses on the road around where I live
I remember seeing the airjeep on extreme machines back when TLC stood for "The Learning Channel".
Hot air balloons have nailed the vertical take off part.
just having a tough time going supersonic 😏
Id love to see a modern jet that pops a balloon and a bunsen burner out the canopy to take off and land 🤣
“A vicious cycle of wobbles.” Perhaps the most terrifying sentence an engineer can hear.
Lol, "The insurance rates rise to literal DEATH if you mess up." Good one!
Lol
Hearing Simon say the words "dummy thicc" made me literally spit my drink out. starting off the new year right!
Those flying jeep concepts remind me of the modern flying car /rideable drones of today's designs. The more things change the more they remain the same.
And I firmly believe that a similar product will be of military worth in short order, especially if they can be produced such that many of them can be folden/packed into a standard shipping container and have decent load bearing capacity and/or range. Electric quadrotors would also have quite a low heat signature- helping survivability.
They are as worthless as flying cars. More so, since an actual Jeep or a conventional helicopter can actually carry a decent payload, while these things are doing all they can to just not kill you.
@@mattfleming86 but now there’s no need for a pilot so it’s just a drone
This was the period when sf was describing a future where flying car would be used instead of regular cars. So a flying jeep isn't so strange.
Never mind that the only reason given to needing flying car is avoiding trafic. There are very few cases where the reason is not building a road infrostructure. I never found a case where the reason for flying cars is: going in a strait line not following road, or higher speed.
This look like 3D film that don't seems to have any reason to exists outside of "a more immersive experience". And that is still going today.
Life is a wheel, not a road.
That last shot of the flying Jeep is my favorite. I love how they've got a .50 cal up there. It's not, like, manned or anything. It's just up there, on a tripod, like an afterthought.
that german tiltjet fighter and also the german tiltjet bomber only mentioned tangentially here were clearly the best ones.
The Dornier was designed as a transport.
You have no idea of how many 11 year old boys drooled over the models of the XFV-1 and 2 in 195
What happened to the Ryan X-55
We never did get the VTO interceptor
Chance-Vought had something like that called the "flying flapjack" that had two propeller engines in about 1945 but the jet engine kind of scratched that one
Yep loads of VTOL designs missing from this.
Ryan X-13
Bell X-14
Hiller X-18
Curtiss-Wright X-19
Bell X-22
Lockheed XV-4 Hummingbird
Ryan XV-5
Rockwell XVF-12
Shorts SC-1
Canadair CL-84
Dassault Mirage IIIV
Ling-Temco-Vought (LTV) XC-142
Who knew, the quadcopter was invented in ‘58. Happy new year Simon, everybody.
That family guy cut was done perfect well done editors
My jaw dropped when Brian's did 🤣
5:30 never thought I’d hear Simon say that
My grandpa had a cool color picture of the Convair XFV always on the wall when I was a kid I never knew much about it but I always loved looking at it, what an unlocked memory that was. I forgot about that since the 90s holy shit. I wonder where all that stuff went when he died, that would have been cool to keep.
Bro I'd do some ILLEGALLY COOL shit to have a flying jeep for me and the homie to bop around in
The Smithsonian currently has a flying taxi on display in Futures exhibit. Not for roads just VTOL
@@archstanton6102 but can I have it, for shennanigans and beer runs?
@@markthetrois420 Didn't see a cost but yes
I love how they added the Bazooka to the prototype jeep. Wishful thinking.
I don't want to distract from the topic entirely, but the V-22 Osprey has its fair share of critics and for good reason. for such a "new" aircraft it has a notable incident record
My buddy flys them. I brought up the incident record and he stated that they have to read aloud all the names of the personnel that died during it's polishing phase.
It's new tech. Wait until it's been in service for a few decades and see how it pans out. Compare with the first jets, which were all deathtraps too.
Simon with the BF2042 references....lmao. My year is off to a good start
Simon never reads comments but I've been watching since the pre beard days and have enjoyed the content. Happy new year
Pffffffffhahahaha, that Flying Jeep meme was ON POINT! 😁😁😁
The Treibflugel designed by the NAZIs, while never put into service, was also a very strange VTOL aircraft.
Not only that, they also developed a conceptual twin rotor vtol recon aircraft, equal in design to the Ospray. It was build and tested after the war, thought only as a Stol vehicle, as the rotors were not tilted the full 90°.
Some VTOL aircraft didn't need engines to take off - they were so ugly that Earth repelled them. 🤪😁
1:09 The first time i’ve seen Simon sit (at least with his legs in frame).
5:31 I never thought I'd hear those words be spoken by Simon, in that order. To the writer of this video, THANKYOU.
The AVRO car couldn't really fly, but it sure hovered well. Oh, wait, the first hovercraft, but no one at that time realized what they had.
It was one rubber skirt away from greatness!
@@ericstromberg9608 Pretty much.
The first Lockheed XFY look like someone went back in time to describe a helicopter but did a terrible job and left for the future a bit too early 😂
it would be cool to see more yak 131, it was 'mass produced' in a sovet flavored morgan kind of way, but it paved the way for the 'modern' style vtol now
You mean Yak-141
Fun Fact: the designer of the vz-6 also designed the tune-o-matic for Gibson.
Not sure if it would be a megaproject or sideproject, but i would love a video of the Swedish Archer system, or mabye the Saab 37 Viggen, like when they locked on to a Blackbird
Great video. you've remind me of what someone once said💖 "The mind is the man, the poor is in it and the rich is it too". This sentence is the secret of most successful investors. I once attended similar and ever since then i been waxing strong financially, and i most tell you the truth..
What the fuck is all of this nonsense
I'm actually surprised 4-rotor large-sized drones haven't been more fully developed both commercially and militarily. We've learned so much from personal drone aircraft and the technology and electronics are so sophisticated now that literally a child can fly one. Far more stable than a helicopter-
Well, the deal is that larger rotors are usually more efficient, and quad rotors only seem to be _as_ stable as they do because of computer control, which is an advantage that you can apply to conventional helicopters too...
If one rotor fails, you die. I'd rather fly on a Huey, thank you.
5:30 definitely had to take a double take there
"DeHavilland Vampire" can't believe that name went past first drafts of its design
"The first thing that's probably gonna catch your eye about this plane is that it is Dummy Thicc."
5:27 ~ Simon
January,2022
"A vicious cycle of wobble" is how I'm going to describe being drunk from now on.
Simon coming in hard with the shade at BF2042 >_< lol
HEY beard blaze!!
happy new years and thanks for all of the things upload
Watched this channel for years, but I've never seen Simon whistle.
Can Simon whistle?
The Battlefield jokes had me dying, they were so accurate
"Radio for VTOL. Heavy lift gear. We're not leaving him here"
This was an extremely informative video - Cheers!
The avrocar.. soaring at heights of your waist!
As hard as it is to keep a drone flying your first time - imagine having to SIT in it!
you can see the evolution of simons beard over the years it seems like it gets longer and longer it probably will reach the floor in 10 years lol #BeardGang #Respect
The DO-31 was fantastically engineered and well executed. At a time when computers were still relatively basic, it was reportedly easy to fly without requiring them, and without bad habits. It was also a beautiful aircraft.
The Avrocar.
Projected performance: mach 3 at 100,000 ft.
Actual performance: never exceeded 30 mph and could not get above 4 ft off the ground at best.
That guy had a lot of nerve calling himself an engineer.
With modern computer control a tail sitter would now be possible. Whether practical is another story.
The VJ101's similar looks to the Starfighter is no coincidence. With the Starfighter already in W-German production the VJ101 is basically a 6 engine VTOL version of this single engine aircraft.
No mention of the Hiller X18?
Happy new year man. Always enjoy your content.
Omg his comments on battlefield 2042 had me reeling 🤣🤣🤣
Nick Suarez, you are a legend for this script!
there are a lot of flying cars in the works, the key is to make them remote or computer controlled.
The writers dig at Simon @ 13:40 was great 😆
2:46 "Two sets of three propellers" - so it has 6 propellers? xD
More like two 3-bladed propellers :P
they had vtol propeller planes doing mach 1!? I thought there was only one prop plane able to do that ever
It makes me sad we dont see wacky and downright cool experimental vehicles like this, although it probably makes the test pilots happier lol
They still exist, they are classified.
@@mirzaahmed6589 yeah in 30 years we will be talking about how they never have invisible helicopters anymore or something. Everything we know is just what everyone else has now.
We’ve figured out the physics already and have proper computerized modeling programs to test new aero designs without having to build prototypes until the design is near production ready.
You want to see designs that don't work?
Black fly.
Start there and then go into the various battery powered air taxis
Does anyone know if Simon has done a video on the tank that busts land mines? It’s got massive chains that whip the ground in front of it and they detonate mines or breaks them with the force and looks super weird
I thought helicopters may be involved in this video. Maybe a seperate video for their history
11:32 Even Simon giving the burn to Battlefield 2042.
Very strange but interesting machines 😂🛩️
That third 1 looked like a manned Nuclear Bomb, whilst that EWR VJ101 looked like a Thunderbirds plane!
Good 1 on that insurance joke! LOL 🤣🤣
the Curtiss-Wright VZ-7 looks a lot like scaled up version of several different modern drones ... I wonder if Simon will talk about things like the drones we can buy.
"Imagine if everyone had one of these." ...see Colin Furze's personal hover bike. ;)
Flying jeeps, flying tanks but no flying bicycles...?
Darn it, they make this too hard.
The tail sitters are great for take off but terrible to land when you have no way to see behind you and no idea what your altitude is.
Someone should do a video on rc aircraft. Radio control models speed record held by a glider.
Loved the family guy cutaway 😂
Good video 👍
🎉🍾Happy New Year Big Brain Boy! 💫🥂
The flying geep, probably the first manned quadcopter?
Tail sitters could definitely make a comeback. If Falcon 9 can hoverslam, then it's just an autopilot problem.
Yes.
But why put pilots in?
@@brucebaxter6923 to feed the dog.
@@jtjames79
Win
@Cancer McAids and there we have the reason 2/3 of accidents are pilot related
The Avrocar was not scrapped but can be found in all its glory (ha ha!) at the USAF Museum in Dayton, Ohio. A second protototype apparently exists at another museum.
Have to wonder if someone like Elon Musk took up the challenge today to rework an Avro Car or Curtiss-Wright into mass production vehicles. I know I've seen a few images of "Flying Mtorcycles" that look like a VZ-7/modern drone crossed with a Star Wars speeder bike.
I've seen videos of at least one, but I honestly doubt that they'll ever be a great design. Honestly, for a "Flying Jeep", I'd be looking at either a hovercraft with computer controls (whether conventional skirt design, or WIG craft), or an aircraft with a wing designed after the "flying pancake" mounted to a vertical pylon like some weird relative of a Catalina (and for much the same clearance reasons).
Except that Elon Musk is a conman (allegedly).
He promised 1 million robotaxis by 2020... where are my robotaxis?
I really have always liked the coleoptere. Sooooo cool looking.
@ 11:25 oh sh#t, that's the world's first quad-copter/food processor/sausage grinder- I _really_ wouldn't want to be the guy in that seat when that thing goes down...
Simon,
Greetings! It's still worth reviewing the vtol fighter aircraft (manufacturers/types):
MIG
YAK-36/38/41
Hawker(?) Harrier
the loser to the F-35 competition.
Thank you!
Jay Deister
Have you thought of videos on the JRM Martin Mars flying boat or the AH-56 Cheyenne?? The Mars was produced in 1945 and still used today and the Cheyenne was a design for the the AAFSS program where both it and S-67 Blackhawk were too ahead of their time. BTW love the videos
Yay Canada; flying saucers, X-files, Avro Arrow, wo hoo! Cheers from Vancouver.
Harrier FTW. Always!
-flying saucer- nope, what the canuck designed was a skirtless hovercraft. There's a reason why a hovercraft has a skirt, something to do with stability.
09:14 now I know where the inspiration for dasa-kamov havoc from g police came from
Has any aircraft designer asked any pilots what they prefer about fly by wire because the whole go back and start all over again when it comes to experimental aircraft seems to repeat itself no matter what decade its being designed in.
The big problem with VTOL is they suck fuel like nothing short of a rocket engine. Tail sitters might be practical today with digital flight controls.
Another variation on VTOL is the tilt wing. The US came close to putting the XC-142 into production.
Tail sitting aircraft can return as drones now
Would the development and implementation of the 'fly-by-wire' system make for a decent video?
Thank you for making an effort to pronounce words and names in foreign languages! I was surprised to hear Piasecki pronounced that way, but then went back and looked at the spelling. If it's Polish, that's just about right. Kudos!
I went to school in the US with a classmate of Polish decent whose name was Piasecki and he pronounced his name the anglicized way: PIE-ah-SEK-ee
I'm really waiting on the black fly vtol, it's design is close to that of a drone, big enough for a single human to fly
You forgot the Canadair CL-84
The Avrocar did lead to modern hovercraft.
Bj101 sounds like a class that should be combined with home economics.
No Flying Bedstead? What a swizz!
Is that a keyboard under Simon's shirt, or is he just happy to see us watching?
Seriously though, what the heck is on his lap?
How about a video on Project Habakkuk from World War II?
Cant Wait for the Day, when we adopt something like GDI's Orca! .... we can dream, can we?!
The only thing the AvroCar was missing was a rubber skirt. It's seen as the grandfather of the hovercraft
The R is not silent at the end of Dornier...
a nice version of forgotten weapons - vtol
Some of these projects are worth revisiting, if only because of "what if?"