DIY Spray Foam Insulation - What You Need to know Before You Start
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- Опубликовано: 30 окт 2020
- I Used the Tiger Foam Quick Cure closed cell foam Formula - 600 Board Foot Spray Foam Insulation Kit.
The key to this project is prep. Make sure you have everything you need to start and finish the job before you pull the trigger. I suggest watching this video and a few others before purchasing the material for your project. Hope this video was helpful and thanks for watching...Jon
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Getting ready to do my woodworking shop this week. Thanks for the tips on keeping the tanks warm.
Love this. Really well done job of giving a DIY'er the heads up ahead of time. Keep up the great work Jon
I did my friends mom house it was single story with a 4 ft crawl space built in ther 50s. The hardwood floors were freezing cold in the winter 1x6 subfloor so the cold air was filtering through. We used a spray foam and got roughly 3 " coverage but what a difference it made. It wasn't easy in the space and quite a mess not cheap but that floor needed a vapor barrier
Definitely going to look into this for my shop's roof. Thanks for the in depth tutorial.
Jon, thanks for making the effort to capture this on video. Given the limited time you could leave a tip dormant, it was obviously 'one more thing' and so much appreciated. Possible suggestion: you demo'd the way you heat your shop several years ago along with the typical winter results. At some point, you may want to reference that link for those who are newer to the channel. Good luck - steady wins the race.
I looked into similar products to spray foam the rim joist in my home, same as you would require two sets. I was able to find a local spray company that did the work for the same price. Actually about $50 cheaper, plus they removed the existing insulation and sprayed about 6-8 inches deep. Same price and the experts did the work, no brainer. Took them about two hours to complete.
Excellent video! I've looked everywhere for information about closed cell insulation and this is the best video out of everything I've come across.
A lot of useful tips Jon. Great job overall man. I've had friends use those kits. So true about the prep work. Once you start you need to follow through. The chemicals cure in the hose lines too. Hoping all is well Bud, Dirty Jersey out!
I have started using a product called polynor, I purchased it via ebay from Poland as its not available in the UK. The product is brilliant and has saved me replacing a 120 year old slate roof.
Great information! Getting ready to air seal my wood shop, so perfect timing for this video! Keep em comin!
Like all projects, we all overlook the importance of prep work sometimes. Great tips. DD
Thanks for the tips Jon. Can't wait to see the finished project, but I like the progress. Always fun to keep seeing things get done
Drop the used tips in a small container of acetone and the foam desolves off them quickly. They’ll be ready to use if you run out of the tips that are supplied in the kits. Works for quickly cleaning the clogged gun too.
Thanks! Great tip👍
very true.
@@JonPetersArtHome one may call it a tip tip.
Great information. I am looking at foam at this time.
Thanks
JFI, Lacquer thinner will usually clean any foam out of the tip if you get plugged. It's pretty useful to clean floors, shoes, but it will dry the natural oils out of anything you use it on, including your hands. Also it finds the smallest cut and burns like crazy.
Thanks for posting! It's great to see you actually doing the spray.
One other thing, I found a small unit that you can plug a heater in, and it is a digital thermostat. It will work on heat or cool, and I think it cost about $30.00. It's was designed to plug into a wall socket, and then plug your heater in. It will heat until it reaches the pre set temp.
Again, thank you!
Smiles!
Not sure I’d ever want to do this but it was fun to watch. Great video
Hi all, I Used the Tiger Foam Quick Cure closed cell foam Formula - 600 Board Foot Spray Foam Insulation Kit.
The key to this project is prep. Make sure you have everything you need to start and finish the job before you pull the trigger. I suggest watching this video and a few others before purchasing the material for your project. Hope this video was helpful and thanks for watching...Jon
Which tank emptied first during your project?
Did you have extra unused product left from your second kit?
If yes did you use product to add extra depth to the first coat, or did you spray vertical corners in you walls?
TIA!
I sprayed my entire crawlspace and it went pretty well. The trick is to be ready to do the entire job in one go. Warming tanks is a must. I bought my tanks off of ebay which was way cheaper than any other option and had free shipping. I don't think the brand of spray foam makes much difference just make sure you get closed cell foam. It's a very rewarding DIY job.
Would you mind sharing the link of that product you used! Thanks in advance
@@armandomartinez-jp9zi Not sure of the seller on ebay, it's been a while... just go with someone who has a lot of positive reviews.
I agree with video here. Prep work is key, cover your stuff, you only have ~30s before spray foam cures in the tip. I'm doing the same project for the same reason - I have a hip roof construction and it's basically impossible to vent so I'm using spray foam for an unvented roof.
Tiger Foamed a crawl space addition a couple of months ago. Our house had an addition put on by a previous owner and as it turns out, they did no insulation in it (we live in Canada!) and so the front 5' of the foyer and one bedroom were very cold in the winter. Managed to squeeze under (sent my wife in) and in her cute little Tyvek suit, we got the rim joists and stem walls all nicely coated out. It is very good for hard to seal areas, like rim joists or truss ends. I recommend it highly where sealing up an area is critical, and aren't most areas of your house critical? Yep. If you do need a large area insulated, call the pros.
Excellent idea with plywood box and space heater, hats off!
I love spray foam insulation. There are so many pros to it against the cost. It’s great for your structure; keeps moisture, noise and insects away; closes up ALL holes whereas even Tyvek membrane can’t; holds temperature stable.
I’m not a professional. But after buying a property with a basement that had humidity issues I ripped down several walls and sprayed (bought 2 sets of 600sf off of eBay) the heck out of ‘em. No more damp smells or wet walls. I believe, it’s cheaper than digging out around the perimeter of basement and waterproofing and all.
As Jon said in the video, you must prepare everything for the job to start and finish without a break longer than 30 seconds. Respirator mask is a must, as the fumes are carcinogenic. If planning to spray inside a living space, no other person/animal must be present until at least an hour after the job is finished and space is aired out.
If by accident the foam falls on clothes or shoes you can clean it with help of lacquer thinner. Acetone or nail polish remover can help while it’s still curing.
Tyvek isn't intended as insulation. It's a moisture barrier to protect your sheathing if the cladding of the wall should fail. It also interfaces around the doors and windows.
I wonder if holding them in, like a horse trough, in hot water (element heater could be used) would conduct heat to them better. But looks like this worked fine.
Thanks for the informative video. I dont think people realize just how much time goes into these videos. I purchased a Hoodie of yours to help support you. Best wishes in 2022.
thank you for sharing your valuable information, much appreciated !
Great video, thank you for sharing this information!
I priced out the tanks vs a company in my area, and North Pole Insulation out of Whitehouse, NJ was cheaper to hire to do the work and bring their own foam with a foam truck than it was for me to buy the tanks, even with coupons, etc. The large companies buy in such bulk that it was nearly the same price, but of course professional installation comes with a guarantee, etc.
Same here in Montana. I had closed cell done for about .90 per BF and that included prep, installation, and cleanup. DIY kits were 1.00 per BF just for the kit...
Same here. The company I used said it's all about the size of the job. The cost of getting here and warming the material is a set fee and the most expensive part of the job. After that they just charge per square foot. So I had them put it on twice as thick to increase my R-value for a minimal increase in cost.
@@bpdp379 What company did you use?? I live in Montana also, and would like to get some work done in my home.. I am in eastern Montana..
I live in the same area and will check them out. I was considering doing this on my own to save but I do have a lot of space to spray. House attic, garage and attic room above the garage.
@@tspfull Like a moron I didn't take my own advice; I did the subfloor above half of my garage myself. It didn't go great and the tank was $650. So I called North Pole to find out how much they would charge to do the other half. $400, labor included. Guess how dumb I feel again? North Pole will be here at the end of the month for the other half.
well done jon. I'm a firm believer in spray foam insulation. always gives you a complete envelope to stop infiltration from the elements. thanks for another great video!
Too tight building is toxic.
@@designstudio8013 mechanical ventilation. Bring air in as needed. Anything more is wasting energy
@@DTWCT No its not as the poisonous building materials must be constantly diluted.
@@designstudio8013 open windows and ERV/HRV
You gotta be careful about trapping moisture behind the walls
WOW great video Jon. I heard the foam kits were expensive but YIKES. The new shop lights are very bright.
Also noticed if when you spray dont spray it like paint hold trigger and zigzag without the break at the end of each left to right right to left etc doing this youll use less product waste from tip drip and less mess just IMO helped me a lot
Good information. I’ll be building a 30x40 pole barn shop next spring and probably will stick with fiberglass insulation. Thanks for the video 👍
That's what I did , but added diy spray foam in areas where I knew air leaks, drafts , and any other potential areas would allow air to get through. Basically around windows, doors switch boxes etc.. also I used foam board on the outside before I put my exterior sheeting on
This is a great video.really helpful.thankyou👍
Really appreciate this video, very useful information. Thank you.
Very well explained ..thank you.
Jon, I was curious about what was involved and cost. Thank you, you answered all my questions! I’ll stick with traditional based on cost.
I always trust the information I get from you. Sorry it took me so long to subscribe but thanks for the quality, thoughtful presentation.
Great information video.. viewers can watch it at x1.5 speed and its perfect. Voice is not altered..
Looks great. I wanted to try this on a home I renovated but was pricey compared to other options. I am currently installing insulation boards in the shed to keep things cooler in South Texas heat. Great video.
spray foam is an extremely expensive solution compared to the PEP or PS based boards & rolls :(
I had my shop spray foam insulated (closed cell) last year and it is great. My mini split hardly runs even in the winter (Ohio) and the shop is always comfortable - 72 in the summer and 62 in the winter. It wasn't cheap but it was worth it.
Bill
May I ask how large of project and cost ?
Wow an instructional diy that wasn't unbearable. Thanks!!
good job much cleaner than a lot of so called pros
Thanks Jon!
thank you for sharing knowledge
Great video thanks for the “tips” nice work
Great video. Thank you!
Excellent, informative video
Very nice nice guy an his explanation! Legit an clear. I’ve learned about it, I’ll do walls an roof my self .. I wish to know which is the kit brand to buy it here in Canada
Well done!
Thanks for sharing!
Awesome video, thank you.
Thanks Ken!
Very professional
thank you mister jon
Fantastic, informative video..thank you..im now a new subscriber..
Thanks. Good video 👍
Great video!
really helpfull sir, than you kindly.
In my area the minimum job a spray foam contractor will do is $1500 for about 500sq ft @ 3” thick. So these kits aren’t very economical if you are using more than one $450 kit. If your spending. 1k on supplies just call a pro and use your time elsewhere. You will get much more material for the money. They kits work well though for small jobs.
Another rather nice and informative video. Thank you John. I also love your bee vids and wanted to ask if you have tried the Layens hive build and if so please show your building of it. You’re an awesome teacher and I enjoy your perspectives.
i put tanks in hot bath tub,about 90 deg water for little while.also heated the area to be insulated.had good results
I have a sous vide circulator and was thinking that device could get a very precise water bath going in a cooler for these tanks.
Great info, Jon~! My shop is a 30'x40' pole barn that has a layer of silver-backed bubble-wrap for the insulation. It doesn't seem like much, but our winter's here in GA are nothing like what you get up there. I've wanted to investigate going with spray foam insulation, but the single company in our area wants a king's ransom, so bubble-wrap it is. My mini-split unit does a pretty good job of heating & cooling the shop, so I guess I should stop complaining. :-)
Thanks for sharing~!
You will hate the bubble insulation I had it and it breaks down after some years and it starts falling off and it’s a messy
Appreciate the heating pad alternative
Thanks for the video that was awesome... What is the R value of this once it is sprayed?
@Jon Peters Hi, this is a very informative video and holds the key to most of the questions I had about DIY spray foam insulation. I was wondering if there is a reason as to why you short bursts of spray foam going back and forth between the 16” gap instead of making longer sweeps of spray running the lengths of the beams, struts, joists, or whatever those long pieces of wood are called? My mind seems to think that it would be easier, more time saving, and possibly even reduce wasting product? Thank you for your time.
Great tips! Definitely agree on the prep work.. I'm having a contractor come spray my barn (about 8000bf total) and still spent a ton of time getting it ready.
Can we ask what that project estimate came in at?
What was the cost ?
billy bowbob 1100 for the two kits required to complete the entire shed roof. He covers the cost aspect in the final 2 minutes of the video.
I'm melting! Each kit includes the A and B product tanks.
@@immelting9834 pno
Jon, great vid...one thing u didn’t touch on . Expansion. So u put down one layer...what is the expansion of the material? Can we expect 2 inch rise? 3 inch? I have some cavities where I need to spray and the max expansion I can have without having to saw cut everything would be 2 inches...do u know the ratio? 1/2 inch of material laid down results in 3 inch total expansion..etc etc...?
I got a quote today; four walls 40’ long x 11’ high. $10,000.00. I got lots time in the next few months. I imagine I’ll be really good at applying spray foam insulation very soon.
My high school auto body teacher taught us to keep our wrist perpendicular to the surface so that an equal amount of material is applied to the sides and middle. That’s why you have more material on the sides.
Great video, how many tips did a kit come with? I have a tight crawl space to do working off my back and would be slow going as i reposition and do each area so i have a feeling id be going thru tips
Great video thanks..! How many square feet was your shed roof ?and how much was each kit square-foot wise? You said you used 2
I was thinking about doing the same thing I would need to spray 200 ft.²
Informative. Thnx 4 sharing. So, I'm thinking I can do this in summer & not have to worry bout temp, correct? Is humidity an issue with it?
How thick a layer did you end up with, it didn't look like it expanded that much when you sprayed it on as far as I could see?
I have VHS tapes from Monolithic Dome Homes. Very amateurish at the time. They used to preach DIY back
in the 80's, then they stopped doing that and suggested a pro for the foam. Of course they were doing
inside of a 40' diameter dome 1" thick per pass until you got to 3". Foam has come a long way.
Usually a contractor can do it same price why’s buy the kits? It especially sucks when one kit is not enough amd only need a little if the second kit... but other than that very nice job spraying! You did as good as a guy can do it with those kits! This is from a very day sprayfoam contractor.
Did not think you could do this yourself. Great info
You can do it. Tyvek suit, respirator mask, eye protection are a must. Other than that it’s a fun project.
What size tanks would you recommend for a 16 × 32 shop building. Thank you
Cool little hot box build. Screws so you could disassemble?
I used spray foam over my basement foundation walls. I remember hearing a popping sound come from that area after I finished. Could the spray foam have exploded and leaked liquid down onto the floor? The floor around there is all damp and sticky now. There is a foundation crack behind there that has never leaked in 50 year old home and that area outside is under the deck so I don’t think it’s leaking. I did try and fill the crack with a Sika epoxy resin and that stuff ran down onto the floor also. Thoughts?
I'm going to have to spray foam my home and would like to do it myself but don't know which brand to get. How many square feet and at what thickness were you able to install with each kit? How much did it cost you per square foot by doing it yourself?
Hello, thank you for the video! I have a 2 1/2 car garage the I want to use the best insulation for winter months here in Chicago area. In your opinion, do you think spray foam is the best way to go or just regular R19 insulation? Also, how much sq ft did you get out of the one box you paid $500 for? Thank you.
Thanks.
Did you get the expected coverage/volume?
Ive sprayed thoudsens of gallons of foam . Those little cans the idea is that when u pull trigger never let go thats way u where having foam building up in tip osf your nozzle . Thats is whay prepping area n around area comes first
What about flipping the tanks? Will you get more coverage?
Wear a full face mask the vapor that comes off during the heat transfer can cause vision impairment. I worked for Airtex spray foam for 4 years it's on of the first things that is explained during safety and operation training.
Cool little set up tho
I was looking at this too until I heard the cost. It appears to me you could use sheets of polystyrene foam and then seal all seams and edges with cans of expanding foam and get the same results without all the expense.
You can. It helps to put a few nails in every couple feet to ensure the foam board stays in place as the spray foam expands.
I think your right...this expense is just stupid
How do I remove the uncured stuff from my joists that comes out at the end when the two parts do not mix equally?
Was wondering if this foam would work well to insulate the area where the house sits on the foundation plate in between the joist ?
Does this foam spray prevent freezing pipes? How much low temps with it hood to?
I turn my hot tub down and put them in it for a few hours. Works excellent lol
Great video. Thanks. basically, I'll have to do this job on a warm summer day and sweat my nads off in the suit. Mike
I am about to insulate a 3/12 pitch ,16' wide vaulted shed roof that has 2x10 rafters and 5/8" cdx as well as the lean-to off the front that will be partially enclosed. I want to fully seal these roofs so that I don't have to vent to the outside and finish off with 24" batts. How thick do you think I should get my spray foam in order to totally seal my envelope?
I decided I'd save money by spray foaming my garage ceiling myself. I used 5 sets of Froth-Pak 620's for 5" thick over 600 ft2 ceiling (zone 6). I really didn't save much, if anything, after needing to buy a good vapor full face mask, space suits, gloves and drop cloths. I ruined a pair of shoes, even when wearing booties and got foam on the uncovered areas of my neck and hairline. The mask came with several film covers because no matter what, foam will build un on the mask.
The cost for the foam and needed supplies was around $5000. It took me several hours and I sweated like a pig, even in 70 degree temps. The foam gets hot while reacting and heated the garage to over 80F. My neck was really sore the next day from looking up for that long.
IMO, it isn't smart to DYI foam large areas. The small gun takes forever to cover big surfaces. I'd only use a DYI kit again on a small area, otherwise better off hiring this out, as I would have paid maybe a little more and saved myself from this uncomfortable and very messy job. A spray gun gets gooped up quickly when spraying upwards as the fine spray mist builds up, causing me to stop to clean the nozzle off. Not a fun project!
nice video. Good explantions. Hate to hear how expensive it is.
Please help.... I have a couple questions... what brand is the tank? how much per tank? how much surface area will a single tank cover in 2"?
Does this insulation cut down the intense summer heat inside the building?
thank u Sir
If your roof is soffited should you avoid covering the soffits?
Hi Jon!
Nice job! How many layers have you sprayed?
Great video Jon! That's not something that I would try to do myself though. I am curious as to why you just didn't use regular insulation like you did on the walls? Anyway, nice work.....👍👍😉😉
He said it was because he didn't want to vent the roof.
good idea with the heating pads. Just wondering, do you have to do the short perpendicular spray for application purposes or is that just preference? Can your application go parallel to the wood?
That’s the question I have!
How mush coverage did you get with the "600 bf kit"?