Explaining Digimon: THE DARK OCEAN! Lore, creatures and theories! [Digi Question #18]

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  • Опубликовано: 22 окт 2024

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  • @NagaYamiyo
    @NagaYamiyo Год назад +26

    One other person who I BELIEVE fell into the Dark Ocean was Maki Himekawa in Digimon Adventure Tri, one of original Chosen Children before the Adventure cast.
    One whose role was similar to Kari as she would be used as an avatar by Homeostasis.
    If I remember correctly, after she found Tapirmon who did not remember her, her despair led her to what looked like the Dark Ocean where she was swallowed up.
    I also believe they showed Ordinemon having been manipulating the Dark Ocean at one point.
    Though I do not remember certainly as I haven't watched Tri in a few years.

    • @teamsteed1
      @teamsteed1 Год назад +2

      If I remember a clip from Digimon Tri right Maki snapped when Tapirmon who doesn't remember her because of the reboot.

    • @SdotWebb
      @SdotWebb 7 месяцев назад +1

      You're both right that's exactly what happened but maki/Himi was not canon like when t.k actually traveled via gateway season 2 to the dark ocean. Her situation deserved a follow up that I'm guessing is too adult for the kids show to follow up so we won't ever get the answer(s) to What happened to her really.

  • @Samgreen90
    @Samgreen90 Год назад +24

    (At 13:40) There were two things from THAT scene I remember from season 2 regarding Daemon:
    1. he was in his "mantle form" and he still overpowered everyone and that was his weakest form.
    2. The only reason he lost to them and got sent to the Dark Ocean was because… he "allowed" it. Either way, if he can make portals, sending him in there was too easy.
    So basically, they were losing against the Demon Lord of Wrath, who was at his weakest, who was holding back from the start.

    • @ORLY911
      @ORLY911 Год назад +4

      And with what he said as he went through the gate he seemed familiar with Dragomon. It does feel like they were setting up him and Dragomon to be big bads but it just never happened. I'd say perfect for the 02 movie coming but i doubt that'll be the case haha.

    • @ShadowSkyX
      @ShadowSkyX 3 месяца назад +1

      I always figured marine devimon was their dark lord that they brought up before, given his name. Its still interesting why he'd want kari and they wanted her as queen. Potentially horrifying implications to be sure. Maybe given enough time there the ocean corrupts; it did change and upgrade ken's digivice after all. I think they even bring up he wished for it.
      I love that the concept of the digignomes in season 3 could still be applied to the previous seasons. After all, they grant wishes, and similar stuff they do has happened in previous seasons too. It explains how apocolomon's explosion was contained, why myotismon was able to be restrained with just their digivices' power. They definitely made wishes right beforehand for the latter so it checks out. I think the digivices were an unspoken medium they could harness and manifest the wishes--hell its the primary reason the digimon can evolve if i remember correctly, aside from the digivice itself simply making evolution easier to do.

  • @Flirtz420
    @Flirtz420 Год назад +24

    I always thought Yoli went to the dark ocean after Kari n Ken bc
    1: she was also Kari’s partner aka dna digivolution partner so she wanted to b there for her.
    2: she likes/loves ken so she also had a connection to him n this went after him too.

    • @milosstosic553
      @milosstosic553 Год назад +5

      I like this point a lot because if I'm not mistaken TK entered Dark Ocean as well so that he could Help Kari, and he did not seem to be under the influence of it.

    • @Zetsumeii
      @Zetsumeii 6 месяцев назад

      @@milosstosic553 I was thinking about that too. Some of it seems like it has to be a desire too, like how Ken's D3 triggered it above Demon (Daemon). They wanted the portal to open and it tore a hole right above him.

    • @marcopohl4875
      @marcopohl4875 5 месяцев назад +1

      So the way I take it now: There are two ways to enter the dark ocean, either you're taken to it by your own negative emotions (like Kari and Ken with their survivors guilt) or you go there willingly (like TK and Yoli, who both did it to rescue their friends), but that's a lot more difficult. This actually gives me mad respect for Yoli, she's a lot more badass than I thought of her previously!

    • @Zetsumeii
      @Zetsumeii 5 месяцев назад

      @@marcopohl4875 True but that episode Yolei was insanely negative too because she assumed Kari and Ken were ignoring her and making fun of her. There's a lot to think on. lol

  • @ghostshrimp5006
    @ghostshrimp5006 Год назад +19

    Don’t feel bad about mispronouncing Cthulhu, the whole point is that it’s in a language that humans can’t pronounce without multiple tongues.
    Here’s an idea for the comment section, what would you like to see as a Digimon from the love craft universe?
    Also, hi everyone 👋

    • @Kragith
      @Kragith Год назад +1

      I'd love to see some digimon counterpart to Cthulhu, like giant sea monster with tenticles and dragon wings. I wouldn't want it to be too strong though as even Cthulhu itself is only a priest in service to the outer gods, so maybe Ultimate level would be appropriate.

    • @dekuscrublord3737
      @dekuscrublord3737 Год назад +1

      Nyarlethotep would make for a very, VERY interesting villain.

    • @anthonyaleman8963
      @anthonyaleman8963 Год назад +1

      @@Kragith That would be Dagomon the Ultimate level dark digimon who is based on cthulhu the Priest and great old one, and is named after Dagon another great old one and the father and King/God of the Deep ones.

    • @Kragith
      @Kragith Год назад

      @@anthonyaleman8963 Thank you for the informative response, however it was a joke as every quality I described I wanted is basically already Dragomon even down to the priest title. And yes it wasn't a very good one.

  • @Kragith
    @Kragith Год назад +26

    It's the digimon equivelant of the backrooms with the way you explained it being the void behind reality.

    • @aztecklover69
      @aztecklover69 Год назад +1

      And or the reverse side of the world that some beings travel to via shadows and or mirrors.

    • @Kragith
      @Kragith Год назад

      @@aztecklover69 I could see that, since the area is ruled by an actual Digimon rather than formless horrors.

  • @GLIEPNIR
    @GLIEPNIR Год назад +7

    Yup, this is one of the greatest mysteries of the Digimon franchise... Wish they focused a bit more on it.

    • @ShadowSkyX
      @ShadowSkyX 3 месяца назад +2

      I kinda wish the writer for that episode - who went on to do tamers the following season - was able to follow up on that bit of storyline, showing it as one of six layers of the digital world or some weird in-between where some digimon ended up after reforming or something.

  • @Matiasfv
    @Matiasfv Год назад +5

    the adventure universe has several parallel worlds, the human world and the digital world are one of them. Quick reminder that every digimon universe has its own rules, so this isn't the case for universes other than the adventure 99 one.
    In the last episode when the characters asked genai what was that world of dreams where the character defeated BelialVamdemon, genai said "It's a world that materializes people's emotions... Rather, it's the power to materializes emotions itself. In fact, the Digital World is also founded on that power" and then the characters said their own conclusions
    Miyako: so It's a world that integrates people's emotions and digital data.
    Ken. I see, so that ocean... it could be the materialization of the dark emotions in people's heart"
    (dialogue taken from the japanese sub btw)
    Also fun fact, reading kakudo's (Digimon adventure and 02's director) notes a while ago, he mentioned you could see the portals to those several worlds twice in the series, in episode 13 when takeru traveled to the dark ocean, there were a lot of paths and the one takeru was in was the one that took him to the Dark Ocean, the second time was in the last episode when adult takeru was seen traveling to the digital world.

  • @philippecharitat467
    @philippecharitat467 Год назад +7

    I'd love to see an entire digimon season based on the twisted reality of the Dark Ocean and see it centered around a group of dark digidestined whom plunge the digital world into chaos.

  • @anime8644
    @anime8644 Год назад +4

    Dark Ocean was also briefly brought back in Tri

  • @necrosx1872
    @necrosx1872 Год назад +3

    I'm a bit convinced that the dark ocean is where D-Reapers come from, as well as other digital lifeforms or, at the very least, their concepts--and when someone activates those sequences of codes(concepts), either purposefully or by accident, they become real.

  • @ashhikari626
    @ashhikari626 Год назад +3

    I’ve always wondered about the Dark Ocean

  • @4LeafedDragon
    @4LeafedDragon Год назад +2

    If we are considering the Dark Ocean a disconnected area from the Digital World we could consider it a small corrupted server, the nature of it so twisted to the point of its residence are unnatural looking in comparison to the residence of places such as the Dark Area. The way to get there is also obscure like the link is distorted or corrupted, making it difficult to get there without being fairly disturbed yourself to the point of resonating with the corrupted area. Once you are their it seams like the Dark Ocean is almost "intent" on feeding into the negativity inside a person (possibly to the point of being hardly recognizable to how the individual once was), just like how it did with Ken, in how he was originally a kind hearted soul with a matching Crest of Kindness, but upon interacting with the Dark Ocean he became cruel and sadistic to everyone around him.

  • @kristianpsaila6264
    @kristianpsaila6264 Год назад +1

    In last evolution there were a few hints they entered the dark ocean. the water was black the crystals in neverland hovered over a dark sea. Menoa refers to herself as a goddess and becomes enveloped n light which parallels Karis arc. However as this happens the black water is also absorbed. the children and digimon are all possessed with red eyes. Had tai and Matt not saved them they would have likely become the creatures. also in Tri Kari does technically give in to the dark ocean. Ordinemon appears as a perverted goddess of fertility. It has control over all the digimon who lost their memories and turns them dark and formless also mimicking the creatures of the dark ocean.

  • @laneyl2784
    @laneyl2784 2 месяца назад

    I've always wondered if the Dark Ocean and the Dark Cave are connected somehow. I wish it would've been touched on more. Also, Takeru went to the dark ocean to save Hikari and if I remember correctly Himekawa went there in tri after her partner didn’t remember her

  • @bigcdo1498
    @bigcdo1498 Год назад +6

    I feel like The Dark Ocean could be Digimon's version of the dark web. It could have been created by Yggdrasil, the god of the Digital World, to keep Dagomon contained. Without this ocean, Dagomon may have tried to spread his influence throughout the Digital World. Sometimes digimon and humans slip through the cracks between worlds and end up in the Dark Ocean where they become one of those dark ghostly creatures. Dagomon could have also created the control spires too as they would have helped him in taking over the Digital World. But that's just a theory, a film theory!!

  • @RealCandleJack
    @RealCandleJack Год назад +7

    Technically, there were 4 digidestined who've been to the dark ocean. In Tri, one of the original digidestined Maki Himekawa went there as well.

  • @hawyang
    @hawyang Год назад +1

    I've always thought of the digital world as like the internet and the dark ocean as like the dark wab. I've always thought it was a play on We fear what we can't see, we fear what we don't know

  • @PkmJZ
    @PkmJZ Год назад +3

    Interesting that TK did enter the dark ocean too

    • @youtubestudiosucks978
      @youtubestudiosucks978 Год назад +1

      His crest is hope, so he can teleport to anybody who has hope that he can save them.
      It's automatic so patamon might not come with him if he's too far from tk and then you're both stuck without somebody to save you.
      At least you still got hope 🤷‍♂️

    • @kev7600
      @kev7600 7 месяцев назад

      He wanted to watch the dark creatures did Kari one by one.

  • @madisonyomans9004
    @madisonyomans9004 Год назад

    It would have been great to see a storyline in Digimon Adventure 02 that revolves around the dark ocean, specifically with Kari, TK, and Ken leading the way since they were the original crest users. The dark ocean has a significant connection with both Ken and Kari as they were both dragged there. Ken's experience showed that Darkness always tries to conceal kindness, while Kari's experience showed that light is the opposite of Darkness. It would be interesting if TK was also dragged into the dark ocean during this arc, not to rescue Kari, but because he was starting to feel hopeless, which is the opposite of hope. I believe a storyline featuring these three would be amazing as they are the ones who face Darkness the most in the series. Light, hope, and kindness constantly attract Darkness, because their the opposite of what Darkness represents what it wants to corrupt in each person.
    this could be a good storyline if they choose to reboot 02

  • @frankd4581
    @frankd4581 Год назад +1

    Please make a whole video all about the mythology and origins behind the evolution line of Ranamon The Legendary Warrior Of Water from Digimon Frontier series and all of the other forms of Digimon series and media that she and her evolutions appeared in please

  • @frankd4581
    @frankd4581 Год назад +1

    I’d like to see a video all about the lord of the dark ocean Dracomon and all of the love craft mythology that inspired him please

  • @swordkingx4874
    @swordkingx4874 Год назад

    The Dark ocean could also be a area where disgraded data goes, where even the darkest of dark goes when it dies.
    A void of darkness, where the only ruler is Dracgomon.
    And thanks to Xros Wars and Ghost Game we know this guy is powerful, with GG making him stronger via a virus.
    It may be a second kind of dark area, perhaps some digimon when they die end up there instead of the nursery or dark area?
    And likely the other reason Kari was drawn there is because she represents light, the stronger a persons light, the deeper the shadow, so perhaps this could have given us something like Angewoman darkness mode or Ophanimon Falldown mode (before it was a thing) or some sort of evil dragon

  • @SdotWebb
    @SdotWebb 7 месяцев назад +1

    Dude wjy did you Ignore that T.K "TRAVELED" to the Dark ocean via gateway similar to the digiworld? T.K held the most useful information on going to the dark ocean.

  • @fireorb2
    @fireorb2 Год назад +2

    As a child, I have vague memories of the dark ocean. I do agree with you, just the fact that it hint of something greater, but nothing ultimately comes of it. The fact that the town is also called Innsmouth, hints at some pretty scary things.

  • @dasvogt1380
    @dasvogt1380 Год назад +1

    Daemom says in the German dub to before the banish him that the Dark orcean belongs to Dragomon

  • @Magnamaster
    @Magnamaster Год назад

    I'm just happy you're back man

  • @SellavinAtoms
    @SellavinAtoms Год назад +3

    The dark ocean differently had potential. I remember seeing this as a kid over and over Again and it wasn't till I was an adult that I realized. They really had something going on with this thing, and then they just stopped.

  • @mirandabeaulieu7735
    @mirandabeaulieu7735 9 месяцев назад

    The nearby town even feels like a reference lovecraft's book the shadow over endsmouth

  • @andresmarrero8666
    @andresmarrero8666 Год назад +4

    The only thing I can definitively say about the Dark Ocean is that it isn't a digital space. It may even be what Lovecraft was looking at which would certainly explain why he was extra terrified of the depths. Occasionally digimon do end up there but they can't leave and eventually become the realm's new inhabitants, twisted into new forms and beings suited to such a reality. The Scubamon and Dagomon are such recent arrivals. I am fairly certain that Dagomon isn't the master, he just happens to resemble Cthulu. Daemon however wasn't all that concerned, so perhaps he knows a way out. The Dark Ocean will trap him there but eventually he will be free, or perhaps he always wanted to be there.

    • @chimuoma390
      @chimuoma390 Год назад

      Daemon Beast Mode Would Have Murdered All The DigiDestined If He Were To Go All Out!However My Chronomon HM Oneshot Him In Digimon World DS With Corona Blast!If They Fought In The Dark Ocean,Who Would Win,Darkrai Or Daemon?I Can Imagine Darkrai's Island In The Dark Ocean!Demon Claw Vs Shadow Claw!Demon Blast Vs Shadow Ball!Thoughts?

  • @anthonyaleman8963
    @anthonyaleman8963 Год назад

    In order to understand a World of Darkness one must understand darkness within the context of Digimon, Darkness is a force that is powered and created by negative emotions and it exists in the hearts of both humans and digimon.

  • @MichaelKumpmann
    @MichaelKumpmann 2 месяца назад

    I have an idea: At first. There is no "space in between code", as code is just voltage in a Flipflop in a hardware part.
    But I got a weird idea which might be closer to truth. In a computer system, you can say there are actually 3 states. Zero, One and Undefined. (If a variable is declared but gets no value, or there is some kind of error like electron interference on the circuitry.
    Basically, if you write "bool alpha = true", then its true, if its written "bool alpha = false", then its false, but you can also write "bool alpha" without definining wether this is false or true.)
    The undefined state is often called "null". Some languages call it "nil", from latin "nihilus". (Nihilus is also connected to the term "nihilism", which denies higher purposes in the world and thinks a lot of the world is in fact random.
    If you have a variable which is null and you try to access a variable in an if statement like "if a == true", then, this causes a so called Null Pointer exception. In a lot of programming languages, this causes an error or makes the program stop working. There are some assembly languages, where something weird might happen.
    For example, the game boy had an assembly language which gave the null pointer exception a string which should mean "Missing Number". It was displayed as MISSINGNO. Yes. THAT Missingno Pokemon creature is produced by a null pointer exception.
    My theory is: The sea of darkness is a world of Null Pointer exceptions, a world created by undefined parts of code. And Dagomon and all the other residents of THAT world are basically Digimons answer to Missingno. (And if you think about it. Missingno in itself is also a pretty demonic/satanic concept. A creature which should not exist in creation and which was not intended by the creator, which causes destruction and harms the work of the creator. But it can give you unnatural gifts. In a certain way, Missingno is close to a demon.)

  • @M_Alexander
    @M_Alexander Год назад

    I was under the impression that the Dark Spires were based on the Black Gears that Devimon uses. What frustrates me is that I never found information on what the Black Gears are or where they came from

  • @guala4964
    @guala4964 Год назад +2

    Dark ocean or Dagomon's sea is so interesting.... as far as we know that only human visitors are digidestined and only if they are "corrupted" by negative emotions.
    My theory is that Dark ocean was actually created and by none other than Mileniumon himself. Dagomon serves as administrator of that place rather than creator. Now why i think that is.
    Both affects person who came into contact with it, both were necessary in Milenimon birth. And also likely both were things that Daemon was after in digimon 02 since he knew about both and didnt mind visitig that place even at cost not getting dark seeds. Also its estethic looks like the "air" is filled black particles similar looking to dark seeds.
    Dark ocean probably also serves as something like test lab and research centre, also anyone who entered that place and stayed there for longer period of time (probably exept Dagomon) was affected.

  • @dragonwatter
    @dragonwatter Год назад

    i watchted the english version. but season 1 and 2 digiital world was said to be a creation of amixture of peoples dream and digital data. that being said i think the dark ocean is the counter part to the world we see att the end of zero 2 a world given form by peoples insecurites and pain. likely thats the energy that fules it. that would make an aligorical explination of why it's so hard to escape., just like it's really hard for people to escape negative mental paterns and only get harder the further they sink in to them/ and for somone like demon who was pure negative energy and data he likly lacks the positive energy to escape.

  • @rosenrotohh9627
    @rosenrotohh9627 11 месяцев назад

    can you please upload all the scene of the deep sea creature interaction with hikari bcoz the dubbed version I watched long ago didn't really gives off anything dark about it

  • @AKAthe3rdPERSON
    @AKAthe3rdPERSON 11 месяцев назад

    Yeah, the hints at the dark ocean is better than explaining it fully

  • @Dragon66898
    @Dragon66898 Год назад +2

    I personally think the Dark Ocean is the embodiment of either the deep net or the dark net

  • @rayhayes7701
    @rayhayes7701 Год назад

    The Dark Ocean raises alot of questions and I think it's fine that they don't have to be answered. Why? Because we have videos like this that are better to speculate on instead. And like What the Digiknow said not everything needs to be explained.

  • @kev7600
    @kev7600 7 месяцев назад

    We all know that Sora was never enough and pretty much neglectable.

  • @8u88a
    @8u88a 2 месяца назад

    MY THEORY: The Devimon in the Dark Whirlpool became the MarineDevimon of the Daemon Corps.
    What do you think?

  • @sleekemu356
    @sleekemu356 Год назад +1

    Is there a differences between the dark ocean and the dark web

    • @gabrielrasilva
      @gabrielrasilva Год назад

      Dark web is more like the dark area, everything that can be index-ced by the server end there, the dark ocean is more like an separated world from any digital world (there are others digital world that are not cobtroled by igdrasil) where the "deepts lord govern like igdrasil govern the digital world.

  • @mirandabeaulieu7735
    @mirandabeaulieu7735 9 месяцев назад

    The dark ocean is full of references to H.P lovecraft

  • @Rordrik
    @Rordrik 10 месяцев назад

    Well done, that covers a lot of it even if it is very obscure what we really know.
    Though if we're talking about everyone being there (an are willing to admit Adventure Tri really happened) then Maki also appears to go there and be drowned in the waters. With no one to help her... let's just say bad things probably happen to her.

  • @skistorm739
    @skistorm739 Год назад

    Also theie digimon us data and sonic frontiers cyber space use cyber energy

  • @SigmundTrusk-iu4db
    @SigmundTrusk-iu4db 10 месяцев назад

    Hi, I love your channel, hope you keep making content like this video and other Digimon.
    As for the Dark Ocean, It's the best thing about Zero-Two, even if it raises questions and no answers, that's what creates a cult following who will obssess over it for ages.
    Finally, I have a request, if you could make another video about the dark ocean and add Apocalymon and the Zero-One villains with it.
    (I constantly suspected they had a relationship with it, especially vamdemon)
    And what do you think of the 2019 movie (The Lighthouse)?
    Did you see it?
    I kept thinking (this is like the dark ocean... but bright)
    Thank You.

  • @نظرياتديجيمونية
    @نظرياتديجيمونية 11 месяцев назад

    Darkness can be called in Arabic the shadow or الظل, also dhalam, oppression, injustice, misleading....

  • @M_Alexander
    @M_Alexander Год назад

    I saw something else about how the guy in charge if that episode really wanted to build up the Lovecraftian influences to pay off later. While his plans didn't work out, he still had Innsmouth where a dark god (Dagon) and his fishlike servants (Deep Ones) rose from the dark ocean

  • @aliastheabnormal
    @aliastheabnormal Год назад +3

    And Digimon Tri never happened. NEVER happened. AT ALL.

    • @Kragith
      @Kragith Год назад

      Seriously if they were to remove all of the moping around saying "it's all my fault" constantly the whole series would be about 10 mins long.

  • @skistorm739
    @skistorm739 Год назад

    What if its a white screen

  • @abirdas2842
    @abirdas2842 11 месяцев назад

    Even though dark ocean was introduced in zero 2 series, Digimon ghost game explained way more about dagomon and it's subordinates then zero 2.

  • @dwainsimmons3447
    @dwainsimmons3447 8 месяцев назад

    Saban kept the dark ocean arc

  • @AKAthe3rdPERSON
    @AKAthe3rdPERSON 11 месяцев назад

    Scubamon apear to be degraded Divermon. Their dark form released once the dark spiral removed. This seems to imply that those dark creatures are Divermon who are in a transitionary state.

    • @AKAthe3rdPERSON
      @AKAthe3rdPERSON 11 месяцев назад

      Maybe they are developing a new ultimate level that better fits the dark ocean.

  • @numberzletter0379
    @numberzletter0379 Год назад

    thalassophobia