He took all of the strongest knights except for the vision holders we saw in Mondstadt. To be fair though, the strongest enemies that we can see in Mondstadt are the Rifthounds, and Andrius is keeping tabs on them, so Mond is pretty fine
@@saif-gv6gl *Abyss Lector has joined the chat* There are also ruin guards everywhere near the city, that the Fatui know how to take control of. Together with whatever tf Eyes of the Storm are supposed to be.
@@saif-gv6glthe 80% of the force is currently with Varka, visión holders included, he left some chivalry captains to defend monstad while he is gone, and the monster knew, that's why the abyss order atacked after he and the forces left, they stood 0% chance with all of the monstad forces on place
Monsters probably know how to use boats, considering they sometimes create towers in the middle of the ocean, as well as the few ones scattered around Liyue on small rafts...
They're stupd but not that stupid, they could build camp, fortification, cooking, crude but work combat and such and such, they deserve more credit than we gave.
As a Fatui Agent, I found this video really fascinating and educational. The fact that every weakness was highlighted in every nation has raised awareness among the citizens and their leaders to prevent future invasions. Thanks to this video, invaders must come up with new tactics for a successful attack. I believe my fellow agents can learn more about some strategic positions to set up their camps for any top-secret missions.
@@arifezwan8893 I heard that even the most fearsome enemy like the Traveler was too scare to go to Snezhnaya. They always headed back because the little flying companion told them so, maybe they were afraid of setting foot on Snezhnaya. Our Fatui Harbringer guaranteed that we will be safe for another year.
This is basically RUclips about "I reincarnated as a traveler and noticed all the safety hazards so I decided to make it to the top of safety inspection to conquer them all because of the irresponsible management" ahh isekai
Why do I really wanna watch that though- Beerevity would give them all a stern talking to! I can already see her scolding them about the crapy designs of female fantasy armor-
@@yuki97kira I mean klee exist she makes booms without her vission , then sucrose ( she can make explosives) EULA is physical dps for a reason varka is also a beast if lore is something to go by
- If you noticed, Mondstadt's inner walls are built so annoyingly, it serpents you left and right to get up to the cathedral. That's on purpose to buy people some time in case an army is tyring to storm the city. And also, Mondstadt has more knights than it seems, as Varka took the majority of them with him. - Hilichurls must know how to use a boat. How else did they built their outposts ashore of the Inazuman coastlines?
Also basically all the vision holders are part of the knights or Adventure guild, the 2 organizations that protect the city so not counting them Is stripping those organizations down
Also knights using not only swords, they definitely have bows (Amber) and spears in their arsenal And if we count magical creatures, Mond the dragon who sweared to protect them and he is now totally fine. AND Mond already was attacked by hilichurls and abyss mages during the Archon quest, and the knights was able to protect their city without presence of their strongest warriors - acting grand master Jean (+ Diluc, they were saving dragon) and her right hand captain Kaeya. Knights are way more stronger than community think even at their lowest
@@hakedzanko6350Unfortunately polearm are not that popular because of Mondstat history and the martial arts used by the knights of Favonius though they prefer Claymore, Bows, and sword. Opposite to them, bows are not popular in Liyue as it seems Zhong Li never really used bows but they heavily used polearm, claymore, and sword which are associated with their Archon. While in Inazuma, Claymore are rare. Though swords, polearm, and bows are most widely used.
to be fair, Inazuma has their archon who's always on the front lines. If there was any attack from the local enemies, I don't think they'd stand a chance against her let alone her and her army LOL
Laughing my ass off cause I literally had a dream where Inazuma and Sumeru were at war, there was "Island Summeru" and "Mainland Inazuma" regions, the Mainland Inazuma OBVIOUSLY spreading to more territories than just Summeru, and Island Summeru were like spread onto more islands than the canon Inazuma, they even had a volcano island nearby 😅 According to that dream Inazumans started it, greately underestimated the rainforest advangage Sumerians have, and greately overestimated their advantage at sea, letting Sumerians too close to the islands... Yeah I should stop listening to history documentaries while playing my games, can't wait until WuWa gets more regions and my brain starts hallucinating the most dystopian fanfics known to mankind-
Small concern about Sumeru take, since it's in a rainforest which is humid all the time it's practically impossible to burn any tree in it let alone the huge tree of the city (speaking from experience as a person had been living in a somewhat humid area), it will take considerable amount of time an resources to burn any tree in sumeru if the tree haven't died long time ago and it didn't rain for at least a week. In other words cutting any tipe of tree in sumeru would be way faster and efficient but even that would take considerable amount of time with the tools exist and will give plenty of time for sumerians to realize and react to the situation (trees are way more resistant to explosion as well compared to concrete like fontaine)
Also, I know that Vision holders/gods aren't considered in this video, but after Nahida's reascension, she can just mind grapes anyone who trie to sieges Sumeru.
@@Maethendias well, there is something called a "dry season", but it actually just makes everything permanently more humid and cold. Unlike the big downpours of the rainy season, we get a drizzle almost every morning... 🤣 From someone who also lives in a humid tropical area
@@Maethendias girlipop dry season exists. During the dry season, you can go multiple weeks without a significant rainfall. In subsaharan rainforests, harmattan dry seasons fill the air with dust blowing in from the Sahara and leave every surface coated in it for months. Considering the proximity to the desert, I'd assume that the seasons in Sumeru function similarly to the ones I experienced in subsaharan africa.
Earnshaw's house is the best-defended location because he has multiple guard dogs and anyone who treads on his flowers can be magically teleported (and the fact he just KNOWS when someone walks on the flowers means Earnshaw has supernatural senses and cannot be ambushed).
@@kaitosasaki4776 they're referring to that one house with a large bed of flowers northwest of the court of fontaine. it's also where lanoire (the girl from the caterpillar quest in the fortress of meropide) now resides with her grandfather earnshaw. if you step on his flowers, it teleports you away from the garden onto his porch where he yells at you.
Funfact: Mondstadt hexagram defense system is actually harder to penetrate atleast by fatui.. In Eula story they try to find the blueprint for the system from Eula's uncle but fail.. I think for Mondstadt you have to talk about the surronding terrain as well because its part of defensive system before enter the main island They also has Reconnaissance squad under Eula that always patrolling
great video!! though as resident history dweeb, i propose mondstadt may actually be *very* well defended. mondstadt could function as a historically inaccurate motte-and-bailey castle!! these were castles before the development of medieval palace-castles, they would be contained within a motte (a moat in our terms) and housed the settlements residents within a wall, with the “keep” (a fortress or building) atop a hill. when attackers would invade, they’d enter from the gates and the residents would fight back, the bailey is the lower section where the town is held, and if necessary, residents would retreat to the “keep” and continue to defend from there!! the only stupid part is the damn ladders surrounding the wall.
@@Netsuki Well yeah, its kinda hard to assess threats when your own government is lying about them and everything else. I wouldn't necessarily call her stupid over it.
15:52 I think those 15 people you counted are normal Gardes instead of Special Security and Surveillance Patrol members because it's said Special Security and Surveillance Patrol members don't necessarily wear uniforms. There're also some Champion Duelist who hide among citizens. Last but not least, there's Spina di Rosula.
Since I haven't seen any comments talking about this, I just want to point out. In the Khaenriah catastrophe 500 hundred years before the story, when all nations were under heavy attacks of monsters. Liyue had adeptis and yakshas to defend the people and still suffered greatly. Inazuma had an Archon and still took a tremendous hit. So on and so forth, and Mondstadt - The nation of freedom (and wine), the nation with no governing Archon and no god-like forces, barely had a problem. It was so insignificant in fact, that its really difficult to find any information referring to the "500 hundred years ago" incident, with the only notable event is the return of Dvalin. At least that what I've heard.
The knight of favonious are actually competent for the most part, and its said they keep track of the monster around Monstad, to prevent them for growing in number and organizing Also the elite of the knights is often crazy powerfull Diluc or Jean by themselves could probably defend that bridge for a day against any army
The most notable thing is Signora's hubby (or fiance, I forget which) being killed then iirc. And then Signora went "it's burning time" and started killing all the monsters until Pierro saved her from burning herself up.
something to note about summeru tho is the fact that they would be actually unbeatable in guerilla warfare with the akasha's troop coordination, nahida literally knowing whats going on everywhere all the time, and summeru actually being incredibly hostile and difficult all around to traverse dont forget nahida literally knows whats happening in every dream thats being dreamd in summeru... an army would probably be incredibly visible to her they would probably never even reach sumeru city simply by virtue of attrition from skirmishes, wildlife, terrain and the routes an army could even take then theres the point of most of their forces beign mercenaries, while yes at face value might look bad, the thing with mercenaries is that you can get MORe of them way faster than developing more garrison from your own population another note to the bridges of mondstad and summeru being unable to be destroyed, they still are incredibly potent chockepoints, summeru cities bridges especially so summeru cities defence is less about the city itself, and more about the control they have over summeru itself
With army of imperceptible, dream-manipulating spirits who can teleport anywhere through soil, them + Nahida's own dream powers could trap any assailants inside dreams b4 they can reach the city
Yea the Dendro Archon has the ability to instantly create giant walls of dendro that can even block off the desert itself, in a siege, she could easily cover Sumeru city from all angles. The Aranara also possess vast elemental powers, they constantly protect the forest from all sorts of threats, even Forbidden Knowledge itself, Nahida is shown to constantly be in contact with them and requests them to perform tasks all the time. Nahida's senses are deeply connected to all of Sumeru and can sense any threat within it herself.
I would like to argue against your point in mondstadt as we often forget that Jean is just the Acting Grand Master, and that the majority of knight's forces are off to a mission, leaving only a token garrison force behind. Assuming enough food and armaments are kept in the city and the full force of the knights of favonius is home, they'd be the most defensible
And I mean, they could take a page from the swiss army and just blow up the bridge. Then evacuate the civilians and bring reinforcement via boats. There is a whole part of Mondstadt that still isn't open with another known port. Though I agree that the non accessible ramparts are silly.
I would argue that the tree of sumeru Is more at risk of disease then fire The amount of moss like vegetation that seems to be on the branches plus the rainforest implies a disgusting amount of humidity And as someone who had to do a summer camp during a very annoying rainy month It's very difficult to burn Everything else makes sense
Also amt of vegetation is so high only because rukkhadevata and people who followed her prevented desertification due to abyss corrosion. Not because they don't have no way out, it's more like people's belief in co existence with nature. That's why they have forest rangers like Rana and aranaras who actively protect the ecosystem..
Jade Chamber is Liyue's huge asset - it's armed (or it will be easy to slap some ballista), can move around and strike at enemies with little risk of retaliation. Even mountains are less of an issue if they can attack anyone who tries to set up anything at the top. It would be funny to learn that Ningguang has another spare version, just in case there is need to nuke some sea creature.
I think you’re severely underestimating how secure Mondstadt is Yes there’s two entrances into the city. However, if you just put all the guards on the bridge there’s no way they can sneak past to the side entrance at all. Mondstadt really only has one side you can attack from unless you have boats
The side entrance has a gate, which would be barricaded when word of an advancing army came up. And even if they sneak around the side, you'd be in arrow range. It is not a place you want to put your forces. So no reason for Mondstadt to leave forces exposed on the bridge long term, although, there, they too would put up some quick earthworks and/or palisades. They really should build a permanent fortification at both ends of the bridge, though.
Imagine if Bee played minecraft, her house would be impenetrable and safe overall given her OSHA knowledge and recent research into fortification and settlement building... Or maybe Fallout 4? All good ideas for the future maybe
There was an event a LONG time ago, a coop one. Where hilichurls built entire wood villages floating in the middle of the ocean. They also survive in the sinking Golden Apple Archipelago, probably using floating towers like the ones we can see all over Inazuma. And don't forget, they know how to use the Slime balloons for transport, as seen in the commissions where you have to destroy them. So they probably can attack from air too.
1:27 To be fair, having only one route to defend is still an advantage you shouldn't just disregard. That way, you don't need to spread your forces - and even if the attackers did try to cross the lake via boat, they would be fairly easy to spot and shoot down
To be fair They have access to magical stuff like god, elemental creatures, dragon :v For example as bad as Sumeru defense is in human pov They have "living cabbage" that can put people into sleep and mind controls god Inazuma might be very open to be attacked but I bet anything could pass though Raiden lightning that destroyed countless Kaeya bridges
We should also consider that technically what we are seeing in the game is slightly inaccurate to how it’s supposed to look. Teyvat is supposed to be a lot bigger and include more places but the map is much slower for player accessibility.
My personal headcannon is that furina spent some of those 500 years building up Fontaines defence. All the other regions could alwaye rely on their archon if there was ever a large scale attack. Furina however knew that if someone invaded fontaine, she would be cooked
Fontain has better military even before furina because unlike other nations who needs help from their archon to defeat the abyse attacks fontain millitary took care of that by themselves and even killed the abyse dragon alynas.
Fontaine has the Maison Gardiennage which comprises of Gardes, Gardemeks, Marechaussee Hunters (now Phantom), and the Special Security and Surveillance Patrol. I’d like to think that the Special Security is like secret service and the Marechaussee Hunters were the Navy SEALS lol. Iirc Clorinde and the NPC (forgot his name) were the current active Hunters and this division of Phantoms are more comprised of Melusine detectives, basically turning Navy SEALs into FBI 😂 Anyway, Fontaine is very well staffed in terms of law enforcement and defense.
Mondstadt does have its outriders, whose whole purpose is to scout and report threats to the city, so they would have some advance notice of an attack. Also, even if that back gate literally can't be closed by any means, it's still a pretty solid choke point, especially since it leads directly into another pretty effective choke point.
The video is not being fully accurate for humour, but Mondstadt actually has 10 whole companies of knights, most of them working all around in and outside of Mondstadt. They constantly patrol and scout threats before they even grow in size, so the knights constantly keep all roads and areas around Mondstadt safe, it is a very strong military. A company is at the very least 100 troops, Mondstadt would have at least 1000 knighted personnel, and probably more trainees and cadets like Noelle, who can also have Visions. These patrol and scouting capabilities are also applied to the 3 main militaries of Sumeru, which are supposed to number in thousands. There's also a strange choice to omit Archons and Vision bearers, the Dendro Archon has the ability to instantly create giant walls of dendro that can even block off the desert itself, in a siege, she could easily cover Sumeru city from all angles. The Dendro Archon also has the ability to communicate with many spiritual beings like Aranara who possess vast elemental powers, they also constantly protect the forest from all sorts of threats, even Forbidden Knowledge itself. Bringing in Archons, Inazuma has been so safe exactly because they have the most active Archon, who has been taking down all sorts of enemies on her own for thousands of years. She can also strike any target in Inazuma with lightning as her Eye sees everything and has covered the entire country with a lightning storm, she is the country's own defense system. And Fontaine is why Liyue is not the no.1 safest, it is the most technologically advanced city and military, with actual robots with guns, and it's guarded by an actual Dragon Sovereign, it is literally impossible to defeat by anyone Archon and below in strength. Fontaine is the safest and most powerful country so far. Not including Visions is the least accurate part of the video, Visions are integral to how the societies and technologies of Teyvat function, they hold massive elemental possibilities to manipulate the world around them; Some Vision holders can even be as powerful as gods themselves.
Honestly this whole comment. The cities and nations of Teyvat are built with vision holders, archons, and magic in mind. The video should be titlted "How Secure are the Nations of Teyvat if they Exist IRL in the Middle Ages" and state "not putting vision holders and archons into the equation" in judging. It's like a pike and shot era military general comparing how defensible modern cities are and arriving to the conclusion that they all suck, not accounting the fact that the cities of today are as they were built because of the military and scientific advancements made throughout history.
for Inazuma I actually think their archon is the biggest threat because every time she fights something, the island ends up becoming uninhabitable lol. they only have 2 islands left to work with and on one of them they constantly need to fertilize the soil to grow anything. it's a good thing the traveller went and fixed all the environmental hazards cus otherwise, if a fight happened on the main island and it became uninhabitable, the people would have nowhere to go but an island that struggles to provide for the people already living there
@@karakuryn Celestia really cursed Inazuma, I can see why Raiden cut ties with them and even threw away the Gnosis. Snake God Orobashi of Watatsumi was forced by Celestia to invade Inazuma, its death polluted Yashiori island for centuries with miasma. This led to the ongoing civil war and invasions of Inazuma by the people of Watatsumi when their god was the invader in the first place. Raiden showed them mercy for centuries but they still disregard the fact that they were the actual aggressors. The Thunderbird Kapatcir descended from Celestia and became the guardian of Seirai Island, but the Celestia worshipers of the island started doing child sacrifices for Celestia, which ended up killing Ruu and causing Kapatcir grief. Kapatcir attacked both Seirai and Tsurumi Island out of rage prompting Raiden to put an end to it. Celestia really caused a lot of trouble for Inazuma, even Raiden Makoto was summoned to Khaenriah for the Cataclysm, they are the true source of Raiden Ei's grief and Inazuma's suffering.
Ok I have to point out that unless its a strictly millitary location most cities dont build and maintain defenses in peace time. Reason being that it costs money, people and time that would be way better spent on something else unless there is a war going on (even then its only considered if the city in question is important enough AND is under threat of attack). A lot of the flaws in the defenses of a capital city can be compensated by a simple fortification project and a mobilisation order when the need arises.
while I love the concept of this video I did wanna bring up a couple of issues. first is the assumption that being waterlocked is as good for defense as you make it out to be. hilichurls don't know how to sail, but treasure hoarders and fatui do. If i were to mount a coordinated assault on either fontaine or inazuma, that would be my first instinct, since neither has a navy to speak of like Liyue does next, you need to consider the most travelled paths. If we're talking invasion force, it's gonna be hard to get that many people much of anywhere outside of mondstadt and liyue. if the ocean is an option and siege equipment is on the table, an assault on inazuma city becomes a lot more feasible, but for land assault Sumeru is likely the most hostile terrain in the world. any attempt to mass a force big enough to seize the city would draw notice and be harried all the way to the city gates. poisoned supplies, assassinated leaders, quality intelligence about size, strength, and condition long before they reach the city. the tree is stupid though, fully grant that. personally I would consider Fontaine the most well defended region in the game because the unnatural elevation, canal locks, and unfriendly terrain before even getting to the region. It makes maintaining a supply line ridiculously hard. If you can manage to raise and feed an army from inside fontaine without the city realizing it ahead of time to attack the Navia line, you'd be in business, but even then that aquabus line is a choke point to reckon with even if you do have overwhelming numbers. and that brings me to my last point, there's not a lot of people in teyvat on the scale of planets. even counting enemy humans, it's somewhere like 3,000 maybe, worldwide? mounting an assault on a major city is gonna take a coordination effort among groups pooling their resources to avoid detection and copious amounts of guerilla warfare. The topography of the game reads like a more mountainous Mediterranean region. For my money, even with the lake surrounding, Mondstadt is the worst defended city for both the reasons you described and the fact that there are two giant mostly flat areas surrounding the city that would be perfect for staging a siege operation and just starving the city out. Loved the video, wanna see more like it.
Navy... Fontaine certainly had navy in the past, and it's never explained where it went (unless Furina never rebuilt it since the fight with Elynas). Inazuma did become vulnerable to naval attack since the thunderstorm surrounding it was dispelled. But now that they have a need for navy, they will build it, sooner or later.
true scale of teyvat is much larger. Look at how Mondstadt looks in the comics. Also, the tree isn't necessarily stupid for the reasons she pointed out. Good luck burning down a living tree in a humid climate next to water, not to mention the SIZE of those roots, all full of water. Nope, no chance.
I'm pretty sure Fontaine canonically has a navy. It had one during the Calamity, and there's no reason to suspect that it was abolished in the interim.
@@hjt091 I think the character who let us play with Crococannon said that navy research is no longer funded in Fontaine, so she's now entertaining people with a toy cannon.
I mean one factor regarding Mondstadt is Amber stating that the common people in mondstadt love using wind gliders too and seeing as how we use the gliders to get on the walls the lack of doors and acces could be a advantage. Imagine archers on the walls and any invader has no way of getting up there unless they themselves have gliders and climb up the windmills to glide to the walls. To me that just fits he nation of wind.
New post! Nice Though if we filled in what the devs couldn't add in time and taking how all of the npcs and weapons on the npcs would probably as well as the doors it would probably add at least a quarter of a GB FOR MONDSTAT ITSELF
I freaking love your videos ! Could your next video be about finding the best restaurants in Teyvat? Or a public health inspector inspecting all restaurants to make sure they're up to code?
Nice analysis. I still think you sold Mondstadt' defenses a little short. You did point out in Liyue that it's easy to defend as there are only 3 choke points. Well if Mondstadt puts their defense lines ON the bridge (which they already did during the prologue attack), then they only have one choke point to worry about, with archers able to fire down from the city walls. Plus we know that Mondstadt has reconnaissance and a cavalry so they most likely wouldn't be blindsighted either.
A couple things I think about these cities, taking into account how they fare in story missions, as well as some lore. Mondstadt: Regarding the bridge, if they wanted to blow the bridge, they would literally only need Klee to do it. However, given that their castle wall doesn't make much sense, I could almost see them doing exactly what Diluc does in his story quest, and just having a large amount of Knights try to fight on top of and hold the bridge itself. We do know that the Knights of Favonius fortified the mouth of the bridge while we were off to fight and free Dvalin, and forcing enemies into doing melee with a contingent of Knights on the bridge is a decent way to make up for the apparent lack of ranged options, though since you specifically said no Vision-users, I don't fancy their chances if a whole lot of Mitachurls charge down the center of the bridge. However, fortifying the bridge to hold the city is something that we have seen them successfully do, so we do know that the Knights CAN hold the city by fighting on the bridge. Not every city on this list is so fortunate as to have been successful in their defenses. That said, an Abyss Mage did make it all the way into the city during Diluc's quest, and of course Signora (and us) snuck past everyone and got to the Lyre, so even when they cannot be invaded, they can be infiltrated. On the case of the Abyss Mage, too, it entered through the unguarded side entrance Bee mentioned, probably by flying over the water. Not too many enemies can do that, thankfully, but those that can will just laugh at the bridge. Liyue also does have an automated repeating crossbow on one of the chokepoints. However, the Treasure Hoarders somehow figured out how to disable the Guizhong Ballista that one time when Qiqi told us to shoot a Cocogoat with it. But then the locals reverse engineered the thing and now they just have Adeptus-based long range ballistas, so good luck. The Millelith are definitely quite competent, and Liyue has... well, I guess it wouldn't be right to call Beidou's ship a "navy", but they do have naval defenses in the form of setting up reverse-engineered magic ballista on the various islands and landmasses surrounding the harbor. We never see these in exploration, but they did demonstrate that they could set these up quickly and discreetly when... I'm going to butcher the spelling, Beischt or something? Osial's angry lover? THE ONE WHO HIT ME WITH A HYDRO PUMP. Yeah, when that hydra rolled in, they did demonstrate the ability to hold the harbor (their weakness to giant waves was covered for by Shenhe, so if anyone generates a tsunami, the harbor could still be screwed without a vision holder to help them). Inazuma City: Oh boy. I mean, Swordfish II got in without much problem and were literally there to meet you at Tenshukaku. SANGONOMIYA'S FORCES LITERALLY DID GET ALL THE WAY TO TENSHUKAKU. Inazuma is capable of fielding powerful artillery pieces of its own, like Liyue did with their Guizhong Ballista, but there are no Taumujina Cannons (might have butchered the spelling there too) set up on Narukami Island during open-world exploration, and unlike in Liyue's cutscenes, they don't demonstrate that they have them ready to go. I think story-wise they were only shipped out to the front line, but Kokomi was pretty quick to show them that it might not be a good idea to build static defenses with very limited fields of fire. I will say one thing though - seeing as they used to hunt down Vision-holders regularly, the soldiers of the Shogunate are PROBABLY pretty competent. Also, in addition to a sizable military, Inazuma has a PROPER NAVY, and I wouldn't be surprised if they'd be able to defensively deploy marines in order to defend the city. Sumeru City: I mean, you've already successfully invaded the city once and beaten up almost the entire Corps of Thirty up to free Nahida. However, they would have a HUGELY EFFECTIVE EARLY WARNING SYSTEM (hint: it's Bee's current profile picture!). When Nahida says "I see everything!", she does literally mean that she has eyes everywhere in the green part of Sumeru. You are not sneaking up on Sumeru City with any conventional means... unless it's the corrupt sages in charge, then you can and literally will sneak into the city and take down the defenses and the government in a single story quest. The second city to fail its defense on our list, after Kazuha and Swordfish II fighting to the gates of Tenshukaku. Sumeru has demonstrated the ability to build absolutely devastating weapons (that one limited-time event where two Akademiya researchers built a LASER CANNON TO KILL WENUT WITH), not to mention that they damn nearly succeeded in building a replacement god, but for now it doesn't seem like they're putting much of their research into military developments, and so still rely on the Corps of Thirty. Fontaine: [BATTLE DROID NOISES] Something tells me that the nation where people have guns, guard robots with rotary cannons, and flying ships will do pretty damn well. Unlike the last two cities, it hasn't been stormed successfully. Fontaine applies it's engineering and science specialties to defense and law enforcement much more readily than Sumeru does, and it definitely shows. I mean, I don't know what to say. Most of the other nations are still using swords, spears, and bows, and these guys have minigun robots. I guess one of the bigger issues is that most of their security personnel are police officers and not military personnel. We also haven't seen any particularly noteworthy forces attempt to storm the city yet, so we're not sure they can hold their own in practice, but considering invaders would have to contend with combat robots and literal gun lines? I think they'll probably be fine. Fontaine also used to have a navy, but I think it was mainly for hunting sea monsters. Modern Fontaine does not maintain any navy that I am aware of - besides the flying ship, the Fortuna. Even then, though, Liyue is the only other nation who can claim to have an aerial asset like that, not to mention that Fontaine has smaller aircraft too (though we don't see any Air Force, it wouldn't be too hard to strap some bombs to an Antoine Rogers aircraft). TL;DR: Mondstadt and Liyue have successfully defended themselves before. Inazuma and Sumeru were not able to, and in both cases, invading forces were able to get right up to the seat of government. We don't know how Fontaine would do, but they have guns. Mondstadt can make strategies revolving around fighting to hold the bridge, Liyue has a competent army with reverse-engineered Adepti weapons that can be deployed to hold the harbor, Inazuma can field deadly artillery pieces and has both a battle-hardened military and a sizable navy, Sumeru... er... um... [singing an Aranara song because I don't want to say something mean]... and then Fontaine has technology and is not afraid to use it. Liyue and Fontaine also now have powerful aerial assets, with the Jade Chamber and the (new) Fortuna, respectively. Sumeru has the knowledge to make itself Hell for any invader but I just don't think they want to use their science like that, outside of when the more corrupt sages were in charge and they created a FATUI HARBINGER GOD GUNDAM. But, still, Nahida wouldn't let her city be unsafe, so it's probable the city is safer now than ever. Which isn't saying much considering how easy it was for a few Vision-holders, a band of Eremites, and a kid in a Nahida costume to dismantle all of Sumeru City's defenses and defeat all the guards.
I’m glad you mentioned that Visions would be ignored because I looked at the militaries of Teyvat in detail and a common theme was “yeah these work well if it wasn’t for Vision holders tearing them apart with Anemo tornadoes” (and mitachurls but uhhh)
I just thought, an army trying to get into Fontaine could sneak in spies to cause chaos in the city and then have them open the doors for an army to trickle in through the aquabus lines. They do seem to be welcoming enough to tourists...
Yeah, however it would be hard to do that whitout being noticed by Cheuvreuse or Navia who are pretty well informed, and forgett about trying to infiltrate the fortress
Wait, why are we not counting the various mechs again for Fontaine? They are artificial soldiers but they're soldiers nevertheless and should be counted. Heck in the wiki for the Maison Gardiennage, the Gardemeks are under them. If we count them, you can't call Fontaine's army "small" anymore. Also what about the watchful eyes of the Melusines part of the Marechausse Phantom? Surely they are very useful for recon even if they're not good when in comes to a fight. And yeah, the Marechausse Phantom is also under the Maison Gardiennage. Also the vulnerability of that end of the Navia line is easily covered considering what and who is in that area practically 24/7. If an army gathers near there, Neuvillete will make short work of them. No way in hell he won't be informed if an army gathers near his backyard. I'm of the solid opinion that when it comes to just military might(no vision holders/other entities i.e. gods etc.) Fontaine has the best(at least compared to the other 4 we know of, with Sumeru as last). While they might have fewer human soldiers, they more than make up for it with the sheer number of Gardemeks of various utility and strength. Not to mention the guns. You'd find that guns are such a big game changer when it comes to war, courtesy of our world history. The same would apply here.
In my opinion, with what they have in the city, it seems relatively easy to just blast the supporting pillars for the aquabuses down and block all the entrances
fontaine has marchuseesaesae hunters so monster army is a no go unless youre the abyss prince/princess/king/queen that infinitely open warp portals thats full of monsters, also has arlecchino protecting the fatui side(these can change depending on situation), overall its well defended(not to mention a secret dragon inside)
I'm not even surprised, Signora just walked into Mondshadt with 2 of her soldiers no less, probably just blitzed the guards ngl, I wouldn't be surprised if Mondshadt is safe till now just because no one's actually interested in attacking it.
Actually, from a military point of view, Liyue would be the most vulnerable. Even behind Sumeru. If an enemy captured the mountain range behind the city, almost all of Liyue would be threatened, with no room to fall back. I would rate Fontaine First and Mondstadt second. Choke points are historically very easy to defend. For that reason, many large battles in the Medieval age happened around bridges. Furthermore, Sumeru (assuming the tree doesn't burn), Mondstadt and Inazuma have layers of defense where they could fall back if they made a mistake at the first line of defense.
@@aluimmumitat It's very difficult to exploit that because of how tall those mountains are, plus the Guizhong Ballistae can be moved around (as seen in the Beisht attack) to quickly defeat large formations. The Jade Chamber itself is also a very powerful weapon with Ningguang's Geo powers. If the attack came from the sea, they have the only canonically active merchant navy, that has Guizhong Ballistae on the fleet, and they have experience in fighting sea monsters too.
Imo 1- Sumeru(is literally a giant tree house and there are little to no boundary walls..it ll get attacked from all sides at once. 2- Liyue...its literally "under" mountains. You can frankly rain arrows from above/detonate the rocks from up top. Even though this has the strongest army along side maison gardiennage they kind of have a topographical disadvantage..not to mention, their Mint and Forge are outside the city..on a very awkward offroad path, that will be occupied way too quickly. Infact their "hospital" is also at the absolute corner lol, meaning it can be targetted by bow users on the mountains. And the 8 trades and other qixing apart from Ninguang, basically 99.09% of their leaders work from Yuehai pavilion, which will either get crushed instantly by falling boulders and if not, it is right next to a mountain slope that can be easily climbed to infiltrate. 3- Inazuma - You ll have to fight a naval battle, to even land on the shores, which..is not that difficult considering narukami island has moor-able coastline..it does not have a lot of particularly punishing coastline. Plus you cut off Ritou and your trade goes poof, aka your foreign supplies. This will be a battle of attrition and wont be easy for Narukami island to be able to defend itself for too long, as all supplies would need to come via sea...means they can be intercepted. 4- Mondstadt - Block the bridge, and mondstadters will die of food shortage within their own four walls. Springvale would be captured. The current knights in the main city are not the "elite" ones other than the captains. They can try to bring some food via Cider lake but again, unless mond has a hidden fleet somewhere it would be difficult. So the battle will quite literally happen at the bridge. 5- Fontaine - Heck they live within massive walls already that too with no exits lol. Laying seige on that would be such a pain in the butt. Like there are legit NO open passages to outside of the city other than those aquabus routes. Not to mention, they have maison gardiennage right at the head of the city at Palais Mermonia. Aka you ll be facing an army of clockwork mechas, elite members of Special Security and Surveillance Patrol led by chevruse and the champion duelists(lol remember that chlorine ain't the only one). To make matters worse, while not the main base, Spina di rosula also has some forces there. If even this wasn't enough, house of the hearth is also within these walls, any attack on the city that puts them at risk, will force the fatui to mobilize as well...yep..you don't want to mess with their elite soldiers either, specially not the ones under the care of high ranking harbinger with a lot of political sway. If even this wasn't enough by any chance, people of fontaine excel in diving, and they have underwater clockwork mechs too. So you would be fighting a Submarine warfare against the opponents that are good at it. AND if even this wasn't enough, there is a very sizable amount of forces within Fortress of Meropide led by Wriothesley. The enemies might succeed in capturing the so research institute and opera house, sure. But the fortress is heavily guarded. Between the fortress and the city, they can even catch enemies in a pincer attack on the land. As long as Fontainians use their resource just a bit sparingly, they are surviving any attack on them. Now i ll go see the video, to see how wrong i am lol.
Ok watching the video and im halfway, and the video is assuming the enemies in the region mounting an attack, and my guesses were based on a foreign entity attacking the country in general attempting to capture the capital city.
We cannot simply forget that in matters of armies it would actually be very difficult to infiltrate the majority of cities, the Sumeru tree and the entire rainforest region around it already eliminates almost all chances of a major invasion (apart from the fact that it is a super hostile environment, Sumeru has vast technology and means of communication and organization) and there would be no way to simply burn everything because it is a rainforest. fontaine is another one with good territorial defense and the surrounding region is a pain in the ass to move around (apart from the fact of fontaine's absurdly high technology) the best strategy would be boats, and even then there would be low chances (without mentioning the command and abnormally high organization in fontaine). Inazuma is by far the easiest to get into, but there are also facts such as its large army and its weapons that are of extreme quality (practically a North Korea, and we also have the shogun). liyue is simply incredible in several aspects, they have a maritime force, a large army and entrances closed by mountains that are very difficult to climb (even more so with armor and a large number of people) they have a great advantage in weapons that use adepti energy and literally magic, the jade chamber that could see an army coming within miles and could move and annihilate the army right there (just as we discovered through events that liyue and mond are focusing on new technologies for long-distance defense). mond is simply very well protected by its hexagonal style of walls and only two easy entrances (and the port can be easily blocked) mond has a large number of soldiers even after Varka took 80-85% of them for the expedition, it has a large number of adventurers (by the way, the guild is close to the main gate, which gives a high advantage) and a certain number of hunters experienced in hiding from the Diona village, and we cannot forget that its hexagonal structure for the cathedral provides a great way to evacuation for the people of the city (they would stay in the church banker). We also have the great and good exploration and alchemy groups of Albedo and Eula (on a mission we discovered that the mond hexagon system is so good that the fatui tried to get the plants from Eula's family, just as Albedo was developing weapons from attack at great distances to defense after Varka takes most of the soldiers) and we still have strong people like jean and they can simply use a klee bomb to destroy the bridge in critical matters. all this without having mentioned the issue of there being the adepti in liyue, Andrius and Dvalin in mond, the magical issues and the yokais in inazuma, the aranaras in sumeru and Neuvillette himself in fontaine. let's not forget that 500 years ago, when everyone was less advanced, these cities defeated abnormally strong monsters from the abyss (fontaine alone and with only humans trapped elynas, which is the size of small islands). Edit: in mond we also have the walls which would be incredible for archers, as well as the development of Albedo's group's weapons apparently also works underwater (and because the area around mond is almost flat, they could easily see an army coming miles away). They also have Lisa and some of the hexenzirkel witches if we count them (and the archons which alone are practically a defense).
@@hinomi107 For sumeru, its not the burning of the tree i m concerned about. Also, i am not just expecting tanks to come rolling. Assassinations of leaders, etc can also end the wars. Any suspicious group will be thwarted IF they come from the Gandharva Ville part thanks to forest rangers, who are actually a pretty strong force, not to mention their range, mobility, etc..they would be such a massive guerilla force employing poison, traps etc. its the Bayda harbor side that i am worried about. it is easy to infiltrate sumeru from that side(unless you count Aranara as line of defense lol), and then there is nothing stopping them form the back gate. Tree burning in that climate is impossible yes, but you can go around poisoning tree roots, destroy the Bimarastan(its literally right next to the northern entrance of sumeru), or march from that side to take over Citadel immediately. It would take too long from reinforcements from the Forest Rangers or desert folks to arrive(remember they are allies now). Lol we have a similar stance on Fontaine, that city is not going anywhere lol. Infact even assassination attempts would be very difficult as cameras exist in Fontaine. If that wasn't enough, Spina di rosula exists to handle these suspicious elements of the society. Inazuma is very easy to land on. You can use small boats, to transport soldiers in small batches at night to avoid any lookout. There is a massive cave system right below the Tenshukaku(where Ayaka's quest happens), and there are no guards patroling those coasts. It will take sometime, but an army can literally hide there and wait for more forcues to accumulate before they launch attack or terror strikes in the city at a random night. I am not counting the likes of shoguns, nahida, zhongli etc divine beings as a deterrent as then it just beats the purpose of doing this speculation. We are just testing out how safe the city is. Liyue IS amazing in that sense yes. It has capable leaders, and probably the most goated army of all nations so far. Infact if it wasn't not for the masione gardiennage commanding armies over armies of gardemechs, Milleliths would easily be the strongest force(ok perhaps except Fatui). However, adeptal weapons are not as prevalent. Not to mention they arent used for usual surveillance and patrol. The fate of Liyue rests on the fact that, are we considering Liyue to be under Ninguang's leadership or some one of similar caliber or not. Because yes chances are she will see any attacks coming straight away, and it wont even have to do anything related to peeking from Jade Chamber lol. Her intelligence network is just scary af. However, my biggest gripe is, you can literally use the slope behind the yuehai pavilion to sneak into it. It is the place where all the qixing except Ninguang operate from. The guards are all stationed outside the pavilion, but no one is guarding that mountain side, hence, you can sneak in. My second gripe is, Bubu Pharmacy is located at a very awkward spot. A detonation on top of the mountain would utterly destroy it. I feel a place like pharmacy should be somewhat in a safer place. Because in case of a major conflict and battle of attrition, you need to treat the wounded constantly. You need an infirmary. In case of such an emergency, Liyue cant even call for backup easily as golden house guards are their only hope. Chenyu vale hosts a lot of training ground for Mileliths and there are some of them stationed at Chasm, however they are way too far away to be able to provide any support. The road form qingce village is unguarded and supplies and herbs can be cut off. All in all, it depends on whether the enemy can capture those hills or not. If they can, they win, if not, Liyue remains safe. Mondstadt too has plus points but it is not that easy. Mondstadt can destroy that bridge to keep the enemies at bay yes. But this also means that they can now only get resources via cider lake now, and it would be very easy to see a supply ship headed for Mond. thanks to as you said a large view. Springvale is their only hope for assistance but against a trained army, id don't think hunter stand much chance in open land. If this was being fought in wolvendom, the hunters+wolves have deterred enemies like Forest Rangers do for sumeru. Area around mond does not have that kind of forests. The enemies can just camp in the open around Windrise and avoid forest areas. Rendering the hunter's skills much less useful. So destroying the bridge would mean that they effectively cut off their own supply route, and they will eventually just choke thanks to not having enough resources to sustain them. While the cathedral(which is both a place where refuge can be taken and the healing centre of mond) seems like it is the furthest form danger, actually it is not. The walls of Mond gets lower and lower as you go up. And there are no guards there as well. If there is an entire order of nuns like rosaria, then they don't need to worry about assassinations in the cathedral but if Rosaria is the only exception, then it will go down south very easily as the cathedral is very easy to inflitrate. Not to mention, only Amber exists when it comes to Outriders(aka lookouts). There need to be more of those. There are no archers in Knights of favonius(at least not yet). The only archer there is Amber. All knights supposedly use swords. If those walls were high from all sides, or had soldiers patrolling those areas, i feel mond would be super safe, but in absence of these two things..it probably is not.
@@hinomi107 Um we are actually not considering personnel and divine aids from adepti or dvalin in this. As once again it renders the whole concept useless. The point was to discuss the cities as if they were real life places, not just ingame. I ll give adepti weapons and inazuman special steel a pass cuz we can assume that the humans of liyue just found an adepti weapon and managed to reverse engineer it.
@@apoorvjoshi2383 I know, that's why I only mentioned them at the end, in case you want to consider them. I would consider Inazuma's metal to simply be an ore, and in the case of adepti weapons, they were mostly recreated by humans like the ones in the scene against Beisht (and we were told that they are also now able to recreate permission seals, not very powerful, but it's a start). Thanks for replying, have a nice day
there's a lot of tactical problems on the economic part too. Where does each region takes its food from? its wood? its metals? and so on. Same for the amount of houses. Fountaine is the only city that seemingly would have enough homes for its actual "viewable" population
Sis investigated Mondstadt forgetting they have actually been developing nukes and long range radar (even underwater) for a year or so 😭 It's true if we're taking everything at face value it seems all of then was very lacking but with recent events they've been talking how the militaries are improving their defenses and they talked about their recent technologies and methods, and for several events it has been hinted that Albedo's platoon has been working hard on developing covert defense mechanisms that works long range rather than requiring armies at the front line because they realized how they are severely undernumbered because most of their best knights were taken away by Varka so they have to do what they must. I think Mondstadt might also benefit from the existence of Andrius and Diluc keeping some perimeters of western Mondstadt safe (and the Springvale hunters to certain extent). It's also mentioned that Dvalin regularly goes out of his nest (Cyno's side event in Windblume event) so he might have hunted some monsters on the way too, adding to the region's overall safety. But yeah these are written with the lore consideration in mind because if we look at events and character lines, there are definitely a lot more soldiers in Mondstadt who are always on the patrol or out doing researches on the perimeters of the city (like Eula and Albedo's platoon), but we never see them in the game so we just have to trust them for it 😅 Nevertheless you raised a fair point. I never realized the lack of bars on the port side gate of Mondstadt and that certainly is an issue 😂 Good job noticing all the details. Despite my comments, I still enjoy watching the whole video as there are some interesting mentions and notes and comparison with some real life defense, though perhaps if you are also going to just look at it at face value and not accounting lores and character lines, maybe it should be mentioned in the disclaimer too?
Exactly, and whit the vision holders that exist on Monstad and how stupid powerfull they are it would be near impossible to conquer the city. And the tecnology as you said its moving on pretty well Still for defenses my favourite scenariosis Noelle defending that bridge whit Diluc and Noelle and klee playing baseball whit bombs to defend the city from a safe distance 😂
The fact that I the Sumeru Archon quest we littearly snuck in an entire army of people that surrounded and defeated the Corp of thirty from the Inside... If a full seig happened.
Your analysis is genuinely riveting, thank you for going into detail about weak and strong points, and also how the cities could improve security. Please do a part two when Natlan is fully out!! I would love to hear your thoughts it’s defense and offense capabilities!!
I do think that if Varka's company returned, Mondstadt would be the best equipped city to withstand a prolonged siege with minimal damage, until reinforcements from other nations can arrive. That is provided that they can block off the side entrance and get enough ranged-weapon personnel onto the walls. Maybe Tenshukaku would be even better for specifically that, but both Hanamizaka and Tenryou would completely burn to the ground in the meantime, not to mention it would take way longer for reinforcements to arrive.
Many things would like to add. The Eremite thing is a bit complicated, they are not a monolithic group and act as roaming mercenaries and tribes, so they can be hired as mercenaries to fight other Eremites as part of tge city defence Also the "Samurai" enemies of Inazuma arent Samurai, they are Ronin, masterless Samurai and wanderers, most of them historically like Eremite become Mercs or Brigands aka Bandits, so they can be also hired as Mercenaries, which is why they were sometimes seen with Treasure Hoarders or even Fatui. Also, the Favonius Church of Mondstadt houses many Nuns who were once ex-bandits. Like Rosaria and a certain Chubby nuns, so when things are desperate they could be levied as competent militia.
it's also worth noting that fontaine has acess to airships. so they can also use that (and the water cannon in that one event could be repurposed into an actual weapon again) to defend itself from incoming invaders. plus their entire naval fleet is composed of ships made of metals and not wood, so it would be significantly harder to bring those down. it's also geographically harder to traverse water than it is to traverse land because there is no coverage from mountains on the open seas (or lake in fontaine's case). the aquaducts are also relatively narrow and can't really hold a massive army of enemies, that and as you said they could just blow it up even before then. you should also remember that the fortress of meropide is literally connected to the opera epiclese and if need be, wriothesley could just launch a direct line of defense of military grade robots, who are much stronger than the average soldier and could easily endure monster attacks. unless the invading force has submarines but fontaine is one of the most technologically advanced nations and id imagine they would be the ones to invent the first ever submarine in teyvat if anything.
4.7 There was a limited-time event involving military exchanges between the countries, and the commanders of Liyue compared the strengths and weaknesses of the armies of each country. The mercenaries of Sumeru have the advantage of being good at guerrilla warfare and can ambush for a long time with very few resources. Considering that Sumeru's rainforests and rugged terrain are not suitable for large marches, this suits them well. Rather than the city walls, Sumeru needs to have mercenaries and rangers evenly distributed and be able to pass information on each other.
Well someone didn't read the modstadt lore, majority of the military and the actual ruler (Varka) have left on a long expedition, leaving mondstadt without capable military as the ones left are generally just the incompetent and too young ones, its a major point of its archon quest....
I think most of Sumeru's weaknesses (except the Divine Tree) are fixable due to new management (Nahida) being much more open to feedback and change. Architectural weaknesses are grave but some priority-shifting and reforms and Ksharewar can address these problems. Rogue Eremite factions are also decreasing in numbers due to the new efforts by Nahida to reach out and reintegrate more folks from the desert. With increased opportunities for education and employment, dangerous and illegal work will become less attractive options. The influx of desert folk looking for new employment in the city also provides a boost to the labor force, making repairs and new construction more likely to be accomplished in a timely manner.
I disagree with the choke points “ liyue city has natural choke points” yes, but so does mondstadt, and only one, the focking bridge. And I am sure collapsing a mountain is similar to collapsing a stone bridge. Yet for mondstadt you put it as a disadvantage. Clearly Liyue propaganda!
As the big tree of Sumeru is right next to a lake/river system, the roots even reaching into it, it's wood will always be very well hydrated making it fairly resistant to burning down. Thunder strikes would be a much bigger threat than fire as it would turn the water in the veins of the tree into steam and make it expand in an instance making them explode from the inside and rip apart (this is why thunder strikes split trees in half). But to wet wood fire is not much of a threat... dead and dry wood would be vulnerable though. Also I'm not entirely sure but hasn't the Corps of Thirty been more or less upgraded from mercenaries to the official army and law enforcement of Sumeru? I guess they can be compared to the Byzantine Varangian Guard (all Viking mercenaries in service of the Eastern Roman Empire) or the Vatican Swiss Guard whose colorful robes also hailed from their time as mercs.
Mondstadt also doesn't have any blindspot so the defenders can easily spot any attacker.. also one bomb from klee can immedietly destroy the stone bridge along with blocking the side gate near the port. And the fact that the city has walls means you don't need a lot of soldiers to defend. And finally because of the geography the island the city is sitting is slanted means that any attackers has only the main gate side or the port gate side to attack since pretty much the back of the city is impossible be climbed so the defenders can easily focus on certain part of the city without compromising the remaining part.
For Mondstadt they do have random nights patrolling areas outside of mondstadt and they have outrider Amber so they could possibly be warned before an attack
I ask you reconsider ranking Inazuma higher than Mondstadt. Mondstadt may not have a draw-bridge but that bridge still serves to funnel invaders into a kill zone and the city itself is more of a fortress than Inazuma. And we still have yet to see Dorman Port. Soon, hopefully.
While I do understand discounting Vision holders in general, I think that there should be an exception for characters who are part of the guard force of their city. Mondstadt is an especially obvious case for this - 9 of the Mondstadt Vision holders are official Knights (Amber, Lisa, Kaeya, Jean, Albedo, Eula, Sucrose, Mika, and Klee), so taking them away makes the city look kind of bad.
Yeah but Monstad has tons of powerfull vision holders lorewise, most of them could probably defend the main gate by themselves whitout much trouble. In inazuma you have several skilled fighters but really "powerhouses" aside from raiden you have almost no one. At least i cant see any of them being able to face a big group of enemies for a long time. In Monstad individually Noelle,Diluc,jean,eula Albedo ( klee would also be a nightmare to any army) could probably fight small armies by themselves and leave whitout a scratch
Raiden is NOT the strongest character on the game Plus, venti and zhongli would 100% help their country in case of a invasion. "But he didnt help liyue in the crisis!" He was testing the people of liyue. He would intervene if it went out of control. Venti helped Mondsdadt on the archon quest. Dont see why he wouldnt help them in the case of a invasion
@@Ak1rnathatguardian he does though? he regains his full authority as the hydro sovereign after the archon quest so idk what you mean when you said he doesn't have his powers? realistically ei probably has more combat experience but, if we're talking about raw elemental power alone neuvillette has them beat in that area. especially since only a fraction of the dragons authority are given to archons.
@@Ak1rnathatguardianyour last sentence implies that you haven’t finished the Fontaine archon quest. Spoiler alert: Neuvillette DOES regain his powers during Act 5 of Fontaine’s quest.
Historical facts Dozens of countries with defenses such as Monstad and Liyue were successfully destroyed by Mongolian troops. But the Mongolian troops lost badly in Japan which was exactly like Inazuma and also lost badly in Indonesia which was similar to Sumeru.
One thing I do want to mention about Fontaine is that they have flying boats - hence an airforce. From using them as observation balloons to directly bombarding enemies they can be quite impactful on the battlefield. Let’s not forget there’s also Wriothesley’s ship, which could be used for rapid troop transfer.
I think Sumeru would be the most impenetrable simply because of the World Tree, it is basically a maphack that will see all enemy movements like on a chess board. The dendro archon can also conjure colossal wooden walls in no time.
THERE IS an advantage of Mondstadt bridge even if its not a draw bridge... Since the bridge is the most convenient point of entry, MOST enemy would go thru it- this works for Mondstadtians because they can launch concentrated fire (bows, canons,etc.) on that singular area... And if you remember that one quest, Amber and the rest even barricaded and put obstacle on the bridge... this hinder enemy movement and make them susceptible to long range attacks
Sumeru City is what happens when you let the Akademiya aka nerds in charge of designing the layout of the city. It's like a glorified tree house, and then just hire mercenaries.
I actually agree with the mondstadt assessment, and im sure the devs knew this very well too because theres a commission quest where the side entrance was easily overwhelmed by a bunch of slimes and the traveller hv to help them out. For inazuma, they do hv their archon who actively monitor and repel potential threats unlike the other 4 regions currently in the game. Liyue used to hv an archon that actively protect their region as well but has since retired after Osial's failed attack. As for sumeru, they likely hv a different doctrine from the others, which is much like most jungle warfare irl. That is, they probably employ guerrilla doctrine with just how much caves, caverns, and hiding spots that soldiers can ambush from. This way, its up to the enemies to maintain whatever power and resource they can in the city at a severe disadvantage. So if you take into account the effectiveness of guerrilla warfare throughout history, sumeru might hv the worst defences, but they make up for it by being the best to survive long term warfare, that also includes war of attrition.
I disagree whit Monstad,they did the same mistake in the mission whit Diluc where they lefted the main gate unguarded which makes no sense especially after a warning to a attack (even if the other gate is under attack it makes no sense for them to leave the main unguarded) And that aside most of the competent soldiers being out have you seen the vision holders inside the city? I mean Noelle could probably defend the MAIN GATE by herself and there are a bunch of equally or even more powerfull in the city
Mondstadt has A LOT of trust in the Darknight Hero
Because Diluc with prep >>
It actually has a big freaking force, don't forget Varka for some reason just kidnapped the 80% of the knights of favonius and goed into an expedition
Especially, Donna. Way beyond trust, it's a true love.
I feel like Klee, too, would be absolutely terrifying when she grows up, if she grows up.
Because HE'S BATMAN
the thing is, nearly ALL of Mondstadt troops are on a march with Varka lmao, so no one really is here
He took all of the strongest knights except for the vision holders we saw in Mondstadt. To be fair though, the strongest enemies that we can see in Mondstadt are the Rifthounds, and Andrius is keeping tabs on them, so Mond is pretty fine
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There are also ruin guards everywhere near the city, that the Fatui know how to take control of. Together with whatever tf Eyes of the Storm are supposed to be.
Also tbf they stationed adventure guild right next to the gate too so adventurer might be able to help intercept any pesky monster rather quickly
Also, Venti can literally split mountains and could 100% intervene if anything goes wrong.
@@saif-gv6glthe 80% of the force is currently with Varka, visión holders included, he left some chivalry captains to defend monstad while he is gone, and the monster knew, that's why the abyss order atacked after he and the forces left, they stood 0% chance with all of the monstad forces on place
Monsters probably know how to use boats, considering they sometimes create towers in the middle of the ocean, as well as the few ones scattered around Liyue on small rafts...
They're stupd but not that stupid, they could build camp, fortification, cooking, crude but work combat and such and such, they deserve more credit than we gave.
They also have a port city called Dornman Port. We just know very little about it.
@@stormer2349 Dornman Port is from the people of Mondstadt???
@@少年ハト i think it was sneznayan port, or at least up north/border them
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We know enough about it to say that it is NOT a hilichurl "port city", stop spreading misinformation.
As a Fatui Agent, I found this video really fascinating and educational. The fact that every weakness was highlighted in every nation has raised awareness among the citizens and their leaders to prevent future invasions. Thanks to this video, invaders must come up with new tactics for a successful attack. I believe my fellow agents can learn more about some strategic positions to set up their camps for any top-secret missions.
You better check your city in Snezhnaya tho, find your weaknesses
@@arifezwan8893when you spend all your points on offense
@@arifezwan8893 I heard that even the most fearsome enemy like the Traveler was too scare to go to Snezhnaya. They always headed back because the little flying companion told them so, maybe they were afraid of setting foot on Snezhnaya. Our Fatui Harbringer guaranteed that we will be safe for another year.
@@my.angel_hikariBe careful the traveler has only one last distraction, I mean nation too visit before they come to Snezhnaya.
@@my.angel_hikariwe have one year, mark your dates
This is basically RUclips about "I reincarnated as a traveler and noticed all the safety hazards so I decided to make it to the top of safety inspection to conquer them all because of the irresponsible management" ahh isekai
Why do I really wanna watch that though- Beerevity would give them all a stern talking to! I can already see her scolding them about the crapy designs of female fantasy armor-
Honestly I might give that a watch. Premise wise it would be a more fantasy adjacent isekai version of doctor stone
This could be a really cool series that explains real life historic structures while having a lot of epic army battles
you guys should read the greatest estate developer
you guys SHOULD read the greatest estate developer manwha. THIS IS LITERALLY THE PLOT OF THE MANWHA 😭😭😭
"we won't be taking Vision holders into account"
Diluc (put down his Vision once again) : *BET*
Diluc has both Delusion and Vision.
Batman and Noelle : who needs vission catch these hands
@@Genshin_7708lmao their defense is just goth man in black and cute girl tossing the enemies out of thw city
@@yuki97kira I mean klee exist she makes booms without her vission , then sucrose ( she can make explosives) EULA is physical dps for a reason varka is also a beast if lore is something to go by
- If you noticed, Mondstadt's inner walls are built so annoyingly, it serpents you left and right to get up to the cathedral. That's on purpose to buy people some time in case an army is tyring to storm the city. And also, Mondstadt has more knights than it seems, as Varka took the majority of them with him.
- Hilichurls must know how to use a boat. How else did they built their outposts ashore of the Inazuman coastlines?
Also basically all the vision holders are part of the knights or Adventure guild, the 2 organizations that protect the city so not counting them Is stripping those organizations down
Also knights using not only swords, they definitely have bows (Amber) and spears in their arsenal
And if we count magical creatures, Mond the dragon who sweared to protect them and he is now totally fine.
AND Mond already was attacked by hilichurls and abyss mages during the Archon quest, and the knights was able to protect their city without presence of their strongest warriors - acting grand master Jean (+ Diluc, they were saving dragon) and her right hand captain Kaeya.
Knights are way more stronger than community think even at their lowest
@@hakedzanko6350Unfortunately polearm are not that popular because of Mondstat history and the martial arts used by the knights of Favonius though they prefer Claymore, Bows, and sword. Opposite to them, bows are not popular in Liyue as it seems Zhong Li never really used bows but they heavily used polearm, claymore, and sword which are associated with their Archon. While in Inazuma, Claymore are rare. Though swords, polearm, and bows are most widely used.
@@griffionwyvrus9063hmm, that’s really interesting. So would catalysts and swords be the most used in Fontaine?
@@ButterPecan37 Don't know just return after almost 2years in total of inactivity.
to be fair, Inazuma has their archon who's always on the front lines. If there was any attack from the local enemies, I don't think they'd stand a chance against her let alone her and her army LOL
Ghost of Inazuma (eternal thunder???)
Unless it's mitachurls, we all know those wooden shields can block Raiden ult lmao
and if someone strong enough to take dow the Archon, no infrastucture would save them,
Bruh bahahahahhaha@@AdalynnCaelgirien
Laughing my ass off cause I literally had a dream where Inazuma and Sumeru were at war, there was "Island Summeru" and "Mainland Inazuma" regions, the Mainland Inazuma OBVIOUSLY spreading to more territories than just Summeru, and Island Summeru were like spread onto more islands than the canon Inazuma, they even had a volcano island nearby 😅
According to that dream Inazumans started it, greately underestimated the rainforest advangage Sumerians have, and greately overestimated their advantage at sea, letting Sumerians too close to the islands...
Yeah I should stop listening to history documentaries while playing my games, can't wait until WuWa gets more regions and my brain starts hallucinating the most dystopian fanfics known to mankind-
Small concern about Sumeru take, since it's in a rainforest which is humid all the time it's practically impossible to burn any tree in it let alone the huge tree of the city (speaking from experience as a person had been living in a somewhat humid area), it will take considerable amount of time an resources to burn any tree in sumeru if the tree haven't died long time ago and it didn't rain for at least a week. In other words cutting any tipe of tree in sumeru would be way faster and efficient but even that would take considerable amount of time with the tools exist and will give plenty of time for sumerians to realize and react to the situation (trees are way more resistant to explosion as well compared to concrete like fontaine)
"and it didnt rain for at least a week"
and if you know anything about why rainforrests are called that way, well, that aint happening
Also, I know that Vision holders/gods aren't considered in this video, but after Nahida's reascension, she can just mind grapes anyone who trie to sieges Sumeru.
@@Maethendias well, there is something called a "dry season", but it actually just makes everything permanently more humid and cold. Unlike the big downpours of the rainy season, we get a drizzle almost every morning... 🤣
From someone who also lives in a humid tropical area
Ppl forget that the Aranara can actually fight.
Enjoy fighting them in the rainforest.
@@Maethendias girlipop dry season exists. During the dry season, you can go multiple weeks without a significant rainfall. In subsaharan rainforests, harmattan dry seasons fill the air with dust blowing in from the Sahara and leave every surface coated in it for months. Considering the proximity to the desert, I'd assume that the seasons in Sumeru function similarly to the ones I experienced in subsaharan africa.
Earnshaw's house is the best-defended location because he has multiple guard dogs and anyone who treads on his flowers can be magically teleported (and the fact he just KNOWS when someone walks on the flowers means Earnshaw has supernatural senses and cannot be ambushed).
HAHHAHAA true, me being an ass tried all types of ways to walk on his flowers lol.
What??
@@kaitosasaki4776 they're referring to that one house with a large bed of flowers northwest of the court of fontaine. it's also where lanoire (the girl from the caterpillar quest in the fortress of meropide) now resides with her grandfather earnshaw. if you step on his flowers, it teleports you away from the garden onto his porch where he yells at you.
Just like Flowerblight Ganon from botw lmao
Funfact: Mondstadt hexagram defense system is actually harder to penetrate atleast by fatui.. In Eula story they try to find the blueprint for the system from Eula's uncle but fail..
I think for Mondstadt you have to talk about the surronding terrain as well because its part of defensive system before enter the main island
They also has Reconnaissance squad under Eula that always patrolling
Don't forget Outrider Amber
Exactly this video is bullshit for not counting in all entities in cities
@@rusticcloud3325by the time barron bunny does any dmg the enemy has already won and left
@@elliethenoob0731Amber helped defend Mondstadt in the manga during the whole Collei shenanigans, she’s canonically more stronger in lore than in game
@@seonsunnysunshine its not necessarily that its jus that noone bothered to build her
great video!! though as resident history dweeb, i propose mondstadt may actually be *very* well defended.
mondstadt could function as a historically inaccurate motte-and-bailey castle!! these were castles before the development of medieval palace-castles, they would be contained within a motte (a moat in our terms) and housed the settlements residents within a wall, with the “keep” (a fortress or building) atop a hill. when attackers would invade, they’d enter from the gates and the residents would fight back, the bailey is the lower section where the town is held, and if necessary, residents would retreat to the “keep” and continue to defend from there!!
the only stupid part is the damn ladders surrounding the wall.
Thats really cool! I guess the Cathedral would be the keep then. It does seem to be higher elevated than the rest of the town.
@@kirbydswii and there's also the basement where people could go and hide in
I agree with this I think Mondstadt is fairly defensible from the inside even if they don't capitalize on outside defenses well enough
Also the amount and location of the stairs in the city gives defenders the highground and can help buy time
In every single video, Liyue comes out as the safest lol
All else fails, Liyue still has a nuke
"Liyuean engineering is number one in the entire Teyvat"
Wow hoyo favouritism stretches even to this
Honestly it would be embarrassing if the geo region, the element with literally the best defense ever, didn't come out as the safest 😂
Of course. Hoyo would never make her country weak in their own game.
9:30 Don't forget that none can contend with the supreme power OF THE ALMIGHTY RAIDEN SHOGUN AND THE MUSSOU NO HITOTACHI
Inazuma 🤝 Liyue
"The best defense is a tactical nuke"
except for the mitachurl with the wooden shield
Except, we know that Raiden is so stupid that she let Fatui in, because she called them not a threat.
@@Netsuki Well yeah, its kinda hard to assess threats when your own government is lying about them and everything else. I wouldn't necessarily call her stupid over it.
Mistahfeet??
Mondstadt's enemies: We have an army.
Mondstadt: We have a Klee.
15:52 I think those 15 people you counted are normal Gardes instead of Special Security and Surveillance Patrol members because it's said Special Security and Surveillance Patrol members don't necessarily wear uniforms.
There're also some Champion Duelist who hide among citizens.
Last but not least, there's Spina di Rosula.
Let's also not forget Meropide too
@@1gniel You're right! Wriothesley won't sit back if Fontaine is in trouble.
And last but not least the hot judge who solos floor 12
They also didn't count in the Gardemeks which make up a large proportion of the city's security.
Since I haven't seen any comments talking about this, I just want to point out. In the Khaenriah catastrophe 500 hundred years before the story, when all nations were under heavy attacks of monsters. Liyue had adeptis and yakshas to defend the people and still suffered greatly. Inazuma had an Archon and still took a tremendous hit. So on and so forth, and Mondstadt - The nation of freedom (and wine), the nation with no governing Archon and no god-like forces, barely had a problem. It was so insignificant in fact, that its really difficult to find any information referring to the "500 hundred years ago" incident, with the only notable event is the return of Dvalin. At least that what I've heard.
The biggest hit they got was a huge dragon that was dealt by another dragon like lmao what happened.
The knight of favonious are actually competent for the most part, and its said they keep track of the monster around Monstad, to prevent them for growing in number and organizing
Also the elite of the knights is often crazy powerfull
Diluc or Jean by themselves could probably defend that bridge for a day against any army
The most notable thing is Signora's hubby (or fiance, I forget which) being killed then iirc. And then Signora went "it's burning time" and started killing all the monsters until Pierro saved her from burning herself up.
I think that Monstad at that time was the ruins on storm terror liar, so the main city has never faced a Kahenria attack
@@jorgetoledo6358 Mondstadt was only that during the archon war iirc, when Decabrian ruled.
something to note about summeru tho is the fact that they would be actually unbeatable in guerilla warfare with the akasha's troop coordination, nahida literally knowing whats going on everywhere all the time, and summeru actually being incredibly hostile and difficult all around to traverse
dont forget nahida literally knows whats happening in every dream thats being dreamd in summeru... an army would probably be incredibly visible to her
they would probably never even reach sumeru city simply by virtue of attrition from skirmishes, wildlife, terrain and the routes an army could even take
then theres the point of most of their forces beign mercenaries, while yes at face value might look bad, the thing with mercenaries is that you can get MORe of them way faster than developing more garrison from your own population
another note to the bridges of mondstad and summeru being unable to be destroyed, they still are incredibly potent chockepoints, summeru cities bridges especially so
summeru cities defence is less about the city itself, and more about the control they have over summeru itself
With army of imperceptible, dream-manipulating spirits who can teleport anywhere through soil, them + Nahida's own dream powers could trap any assailants inside dreams b4 they can reach the city
Yea the Dendro Archon has the ability to instantly create giant walls of dendro that can even block off the desert itself, in a siege, she could easily cover Sumeru city from all angles.
The Aranara also possess vast elemental powers, they constantly protect the forest from all sorts of threats, even Forbidden Knowledge itself, Nahida is shown to constantly be in contact with them and requests them to perform tasks all the time. Nahida's senses are deeply connected to all of Sumeru and can sense any threat within it herself.
The creator didn't thought of the archons I guess
I would like to argue against your point in mondstadt as we often forget that Jean is just the Acting Grand Master, and that the majority of knight's forces are off to a mission, leaving only a token garrison force behind. Assuming enough food and armaments are kept in the city and the full force of the knights of favonius is home, they'd be the most defensible
And I mean, they could take a page from the swiss army and just blow up the bridge. Then evacuate the civilians and bring reinforcement via boats. There is a whole part of Mondstadt that still isn't open with another known port. Though I agree that the non accessible ramparts are silly.
I would argue that the tree of sumeru Is more at risk of disease then fire
The amount of moss like vegetation that seems to be on the branches plus the rainforest implies a disgusting amount of humidity
And as someone who had to do a summer camp during a very annoying rainy month
It's very difficult to burn
Everything else makes sense
true. but having nahida as the dendro archon means she's probably constantly monitoring the tree, especially since she lives in it herself
@@alex-vw2cg Tru but one could argue this video was based kinda ignoring visions and archons
They are literally the smartest of tevyat with all sort of tech. Amruta specialized and is forefront of medicine.
Also amt of vegetation is so high only because rukkhadevata and people who followed her prevented desertification due to abyss corrosion. Not because they don't have no way out, it's more like people's belief in co existence with nature. That's why they have forest rangers like Rana and aranaras who actively protect the ecosystem..
Jade Chamber is Liyue's huge asset - it's armed (or it will be easy to slap some ballista), can move around and strike at enemies with little risk of retaliation. Even mountains are less of an issue if they can attack anyone who tries to set up anything at the top.
It would be funny to learn that Ningguang has another spare version, just in case there is need to nuke some sea creature.
I think you’re severely underestimating how secure Mondstadt is
Yes there’s two entrances into the city. However, if you just put all the guards on the bridge there’s no way they can sneak past to the side entrance at all.
Mondstadt really only has one side you can attack from unless you have boats
The side entrance has a gate, which would be barricaded when word of an advancing army came up. And even if they sneak around the side, you'd be in arrow range. It is not a place you want to put your forces. So no reason for Mondstadt to leave forces exposed on the bridge long term, although, there, they too would put up some quick earthworks and/or palisades. They really should build a permanent fortification at both ends of the bridge, though.
Imagine if Bee played minecraft, her house would be impenetrable and safe overall given her OSHA knowledge and recent research into fortification and settlement building... Or maybe Fallout 4? All good ideas for the future maybe
Though siege cannons in Minecraft can get pretty cracked.
@@Demopans5990 tnt minecarts say hello
@@TS-ln5ixinfinite tnt glitch from the sky wants to say hello
There was an event a LONG time ago, a coop one. Where hilichurls built entire wood villages floating in the middle of the ocean.
They also survive in the sinking Golden Apple Archipelago, probably using floating towers like the ones we can see all over Inazuma.
And don't forget, they know how to use the Slime balloons for transport, as seen in the commissions where you have to destroy them. So they probably can attack from air too.
1:27 To be fair, having only one route to defend is still an advantage you shouldn't just disregard. That way, you don't need to spread your forces - and even if the attackers did try to cross the lake via boat, they would be fairly easy to spot and shoot down
Ngl, I literally went to all the cities to inspect their defenses and they were awful 💀
Resinless behaviour.
To be fair
They have access to magical stuff like god, elemental creatures, dragon :v
For example as bad as Sumeru defense is in human pov
They have "living cabbage" that can put people into sleep and mind controls god
Inazuma might be very open to be attacked but I bet anything could pass though Raiden lightning that destroyed countless Kaeya bridges
@@mikofanboy9711 That’s true…
@@Not_Lis123 Yes.
@@Not_Lis123 my resin is capped for 2 years and i still do those "resinless behaviour"
We should also consider that technically what we are seeing in the game is slightly inaccurate to how it’s supposed to look. Teyvat is supposed to be a lot bigger and include more places but the map is much slower for player accessibility.
Yes, taking game abstractions as literal depictions is wild.
@@FaultlineSurfer “how dare you believe what you see in the game!”
-Genshin fans
@@HerrscherPuppet I mean, gameplay and story segregation is like, one of the most basic things in video games, but ok.
My personal headcannon is that furina spent some of those 500 years building up Fontaines defence.
All the other regions could alwaye rely on their archon if there was ever a large scale attack. Furina however knew that if someone invaded fontaine, she would be cooked
Fontain has better military even before furina because unlike other nations who needs help from their archon to defeat the abyse attacks fontain millitary took care of that by themselves and even killed the abyse dragon alynas.
Fontaine has the Maison Gardiennage which comprises of Gardes, Gardemeks, Marechaussee Hunters (now Phantom), and the Special Security and Surveillance Patrol.
I’d like to think that the Special Security is like secret service and the Marechaussee Hunters were the Navy SEALS lol.
Iirc Clorinde and the NPC (forgot his name) were the current active Hunters and this division of Phantoms are more comprised of Melusine detectives, basically turning Navy SEALs into FBI 😂
Anyway, Fontaine is very well staffed in terms of law enforcement and defense.
8:33 The area under tenshukaku is hollow,so with enough explosives it could be potentially blown up
Holy shit I was not expecting that gamer supps partnership, but it's nice to see
Nah, who needs guards when you have an archon watching over you.
Yeah! Unless your archon is prone to taking hundred year long naps……
that's what the 4 winds are for@@Notgivenit
Venti?
@@arwinv9005yeah, the wolf of the north is very close to mondstadt city and can easily aid them
@@Notgivenit Do you mean Nahida?
Mondstadt does have its outriders, whose whole purpose is to scout and report threats to the city, so they would have some advance notice of an attack. Also, even if that back gate literally can't be closed by any means, it's still a pretty solid choke point, especially since it leads directly into another pretty effective choke point.
The video is not being fully accurate for humour, but Mondstadt actually has 10 whole companies of knights, most of them working all around in and outside of Mondstadt. They constantly patrol and scout threats before they even grow in size, so the knights constantly keep all roads and areas around Mondstadt safe, it is a very strong military. A company is at the very least 100 troops, Mondstadt would have at least 1000 knighted personnel, and probably more trainees and cadets like Noelle, who can also have Visions.
These patrol and scouting capabilities are also applied to the 3 main militaries of Sumeru, which are supposed to number in thousands. There's also a strange choice to omit Archons and Vision bearers, the Dendro Archon has the ability to instantly create giant walls of dendro that can even block off the desert itself, in a siege, she could easily cover Sumeru city from all angles. The Dendro Archon also has the ability to communicate with many spiritual beings like Aranara who possess vast elemental powers, they also constantly protect the forest from all sorts of threats, even Forbidden Knowledge itself.
Bringing in Archons, Inazuma has been so safe exactly because they have the most active Archon, who has been taking down all sorts of enemies on her own for thousands of years. She can also strike any target in Inazuma with lightning as her Eye sees everything and has covered the entire country with a lightning storm, she is the country's own defense system.
And Fontaine is why Liyue is not the no.1 safest, it is the most technologically advanced city and military, with actual robots with guns, and it's guarded by an actual Dragon Sovereign, it is literally impossible to defeat by anyone Archon and below in strength. Fontaine is the safest and most powerful country so far.
Not including Visions is the least accurate part of the video, Visions are integral to how the societies and technologies of Teyvat function, they hold massive elemental possibilities to manipulate the world around them; Some Vision holders can even be as powerful as gods themselves.
Yes, not to mention more mondstat is short hand right now because half of their military force is with the Grand Master in the dandelion Sea
Honestly this whole comment. The cities and nations of Teyvat are built with vision holders, archons, and magic in mind. The video should be titlted "How Secure are the Nations of Teyvat if they Exist IRL in the Middle Ages" and state "not putting vision holders and archons into the equation" in judging.
It's like a pike and shot era military general comparing how defensible modern cities are and arriving to the conclusion that they all suck, not accounting the fact that the cities of today are as they were built because of the military and scientific advancements made throughout history.
for Inazuma I actually think their archon is the biggest threat because every time she fights something, the island ends up becoming uninhabitable lol. they only have 2 islands left to work with and on one of them they constantly need to fertilize the soil to grow anything. it's a good thing the traveller went and fixed all the environmental hazards cus otherwise, if a fight happened on the main island and it became uninhabitable, the people would have nowhere to go but an island that struggles to provide for the people already living there
@@karakuryn Celestia really cursed Inazuma, I can see why Raiden cut ties with them and even threw away the Gnosis.
Snake God Orobashi of Watatsumi was forced by Celestia to invade Inazuma, its death polluted Yashiori island for centuries with miasma. This led to the ongoing civil war and invasions of Inazuma by the people of Watatsumi when their god was the invader in the first place. Raiden showed them mercy for centuries but they still disregard the fact that they were the actual aggressors.
The Thunderbird Kapatcir descended from Celestia and became the guardian of Seirai Island, but the Celestia worshipers of the island started doing child sacrifices for Celestia, which ended up killing Ruu and causing Kapatcir grief. Kapatcir attacked both Seirai and Tsurumi Island out of rage prompting Raiden to put an end to it.
Celestia really caused a lot of trouble for Inazuma, even Raiden Makoto was summoned to Khaenriah for the Cataclysm, they are the true source of Raiden Ei's grief and Inazuma's suffering.
Ok I have to point out that unless its a strictly millitary location most cities dont build and maintain defenses in peace time.
Reason being that it costs money, people and time that would be way better spent on something else unless there is a war going on (even then its only considered if the city in question is important enough AND is under threat of attack).
A lot of the flaws in the defenses of a capital city can be compensated by a simple fortification project and a mobilisation order when the need arises.
mondstadt's bridge is the perfect width for my diluc's ult
Or Noelle's ult, it would be a bloodbath either way
"Bridge? What bridge?" - Klee, beside a crying Timmie.
"Ehe"
-Venti 5 seconds before summoning a black hole in front of the bridge
while I love the concept of this video I did wanna bring up a couple of issues.
first is the assumption that being waterlocked is as good for defense as you make it out to be. hilichurls don't know how to sail, but treasure hoarders and fatui do. If i were to mount a coordinated assault on either fontaine or inazuma, that would be my first instinct, since neither has a navy to speak of like Liyue does
next, you need to consider the most travelled paths. If we're talking invasion force, it's gonna be hard to get that many people much of anywhere outside of mondstadt and liyue. if the ocean is an option and siege equipment is on the table, an assault on inazuma city becomes a lot more feasible, but for land assault Sumeru is likely the most hostile terrain in the world. any attempt to mass a force big enough to seize the city would draw notice and be harried all the way to the city gates. poisoned supplies, assassinated leaders, quality intelligence about size, strength, and condition long before they reach the city. the tree is stupid though, fully grant that.
personally I would consider Fontaine the most well defended region in the game because the unnatural elevation, canal locks, and unfriendly terrain before even getting to the region. It makes maintaining a supply line ridiculously hard. If you can manage to raise and feed an army from inside fontaine without the city realizing it ahead of time to attack the Navia line, you'd be in business, but even then that aquabus line is a choke point to reckon with even if you do have overwhelming numbers.
and that brings me to my last point, there's not a lot of people in teyvat on the scale of planets. even counting enemy humans, it's somewhere like 3,000 maybe, worldwide? mounting an assault on a major city is gonna take a coordination effort among groups pooling their resources to avoid detection and copious amounts of guerilla warfare. The topography of the game reads like a more mountainous Mediterranean region. For my money, even with the lake surrounding, Mondstadt is the worst defended city for both the reasons you described and the fact that there are two giant mostly flat areas surrounding the city that would be perfect for staging a siege operation and just starving the city out.
Loved the video, wanna see more like it.
Navy... Fontaine certainly had navy in the past, and it's never explained where it went (unless Furina never rebuilt it since the fight with Elynas).
Inazuma did become vulnerable to naval attack since the thunderstorm surrounding it was dispelled. But now that they have a need for navy, they will build it, sooner or later.
Inazuma def has a navy tho. We see in the battlesfield remmants with the Watatsumi island of multiple shipwrecks.
true scale of teyvat is much larger. Look at how Mondstadt looks in the comics. Also, the tree isn't necessarily stupid for the reasons she pointed out. Good luck burning down a living tree in a humid climate next to water, not to mention the SIZE of those roots, all full of water. Nope, no chance.
I'm pretty sure Fontaine canonically has a navy. It had one during the Calamity, and there's no reason to suspect that it was abolished in the interim.
@@hjt091 I think the character who let us play with Crococannon said that navy research is no longer funded in Fontaine, so she's now entertaining people with a toy cannon.
I mean one factor regarding Mondstadt is Amber stating that the common people in mondstadt love using wind gliders too and seeing as how we use the gliders to get on the walls the lack of doors and acces could be a advantage.
Imagine archers on the walls and any invader has no way of getting up there unless they themselves have gliders and climb up the windmills to glide to the walls.
To me that just fits he nation of wind.
New post! Nice
Though if we filled in what the devs couldn't add in time and taking how all of the npcs and weapons on the npcs would probably as well as the doors it would probably add at least a quarter of a GB FOR MONDSTAT ITSELF
I freaking love your videos ! Could your next video be about finding the best restaurants in Teyvat? Or a public health inspector inspecting all restaurants to make sure they're up to code?
Seconding this, curious how she'll rate the culinary and overall cuisine experience of each main faction main restaurants
Nice analysis. I still think you sold Mondstadt' defenses a little short. You did point out in Liyue that it's easy to defend as there are only 3 choke points. Well if Mondstadt puts their defense lines ON the bridge (which they already did during the prologue attack), then they only have one choke point to worry about, with archers able to fire down from the city walls. Plus we know that Mondstadt has reconnaissance and a cavalry so they most likely wouldn't be blindsighted either.
A couple things I think about these cities, taking into account how they fare in story missions, as well as some lore.
Mondstadt: Regarding the bridge, if they wanted to blow the bridge, they would literally only need Klee to do it. However, given that their castle wall doesn't make much sense, I could almost see them doing exactly what Diluc does in his story quest, and just having a large amount of Knights try to fight on top of and hold the bridge itself. We do know that the Knights of Favonius fortified the mouth of the bridge while we were off to fight and free Dvalin, and forcing enemies into doing melee with a contingent of Knights on the bridge is a decent way to make up for the apparent lack of ranged options, though since you specifically said no Vision-users, I don't fancy their chances if a whole lot of Mitachurls charge down the center of the bridge. However, fortifying the bridge to hold the city is something that we have seen them successfully do, so we do know that the Knights CAN hold the city by fighting on the bridge. Not every city on this list is so fortunate as to have been successful in their defenses. That said, an Abyss Mage did make it all the way into the city during Diluc's quest, and of course Signora (and us) snuck past everyone and got to the Lyre, so even when they cannot be invaded, they can be infiltrated. On the case of the Abyss Mage, too, it entered through the unguarded side entrance Bee mentioned, probably by flying over the water. Not too many enemies can do that, thankfully, but those that can will just laugh at the bridge.
Liyue also does have an automated repeating crossbow on one of the chokepoints. However, the Treasure Hoarders somehow figured out how to disable the Guizhong Ballista that one time when Qiqi told us to shoot a Cocogoat with it. But then the locals reverse engineered the thing and now they just have Adeptus-based long range ballistas, so good luck. The Millelith are definitely quite competent, and Liyue has... well, I guess it wouldn't be right to call Beidou's ship a "navy", but they do have naval defenses in the form of setting up reverse-engineered magic ballista on the various islands and landmasses surrounding the harbor. We never see these in exploration, but they did demonstrate that they could set these up quickly and discreetly when... I'm going to butcher the spelling, Beischt or something? Osial's angry lover? THE ONE WHO HIT ME WITH A HYDRO PUMP. Yeah, when that hydra rolled in, they did demonstrate the ability to hold the harbor (their weakness to giant waves was covered for by Shenhe, so if anyone generates a tsunami, the harbor could still be screwed without a vision holder to help them).
Inazuma City: Oh boy. I mean, Swordfish II got in without much problem and were literally there to meet you at Tenshukaku. SANGONOMIYA'S FORCES LITERALLY DID GET ALL THE WAY TO TENSHUKAKU. Inazuma is capable of fielding powerful artillery pieces of its own, like Liyue did with their Guizhong Ballista, but there are no Taumujina Cannons (might have butchered the spelling there too) set up on Narukami Island during open-world exploration, and unlike in Liyue's cutscenes, they don't demonstrate that they have them ready to go. I think story-wise they were only shipped out to the front line, but Kokomi was pretty quick to show them that it might not be a good idea to build static defenses with very limited fields of fire. I will say one thing though - seeing as they used to hunt down Vision-holders regularly, the soldiers of the Shogunate are PROBABLY pretty competent. Also, in addition to a sizable military, Inazuma has a PROPER NAVY, and I wouldn't be surprised if they'd be able to defensively deploy marines in order to defend the city.
Sumeru City: I mean, you've already successfully invaded the city once and beaten up almost the entire Corps of Thirty up to free Nahida. However, they would have a HUGELY EFFECTIVE EARLY WARNING SYSTEM (hint: it's Bee's current profile picture!). When Nahida says "I see everything!", she does literally mean that she has eyes everywhere in the green part of Sumeru. You are not sneaking up on Sumeru City with any conventional means... unless it's the corrupt sages in charge, then you can and literally will sneak into the city and take down the defenses and the government in a single story quest. The second city to fail its defense on our list, after Kazuha and Swordfish II fighting to the gates of Tenshukaku. Sumeru has demonstrated the ability to build absolutely devastating weapons (that one limited-time event where two Akademiya researchers built a LASER CANNON TO KILL WENUT WITH), not to mention that they damn nearly succeeded in building a replacement god, but for now it doesn't seem like they're putting much of their research into military developments, and so still rely on the Corps of Thirty.
Fontaine: [BATTLE DROID NOISES] Something tells me that the nation where people have guns, guard robots with rotary cannons, and flying ships will do pretty damn well. Unlike the last two cities, it hasn't been stormed successfully. Fontaine applies it's engineering and science specialties to defense and law enforcement much more readily than Sumeru does, and it definitely shows. I mean, I don't know what to say. Most of the other nations are still using swords, spears, and bows, and these guys have minigun robots. I guess one of the bigger issues is that most of their security personnel are police officers and not military personnel. We also haven't seen any particularly noteworthy forces attempt to storm the city yet, so we're not sure they can hold their own in practice, but considering invaders would have to contend with combat robots and literal gun lines? I think they'll probably be fine. Fontaine also used to have a navy, but I think it was mainly for hunting sea monsters. Modern Fontaine does not maintain any navy that I am aware of - besides the flying ship, the Fortuna. Even then, though, Liyue is the only other nation who can claim to have an aerial asset like that, not to mention that Fontaine has smaller aircraft too (though we don't see any Air Force, it wouldn't be too hard to strap some bombs to an Antoine Rogers aircraft).
TL;DR: Mondstadt and Liyue have successfully defended themselves before. Inazuma and Sumeru were not able to, and in both cases, invading forces were able to get right up to the seat of government. We don't know how Fontaine would do, but they have guns. Mondstadt can make strategies revolving around fighting to hold the bridge, Liyue has a competent army with reverse-engineered Adepti weapons that can be deployed to hold the harbor, Inazuma can field deadly artillery pieces and has both a battle-hardened military and a sizable navy, Sumeru... er... um... [singing an Aranara song because I don't want to say something mean]... and then Fontaine has technology and is not afraid to use it. Liyue and Fontaine also now have powerful aerial assets, with the Jade Chamber and the (new) Fortuna, respectively. Sumeru has the knowledge to make itself Hell for any invader but I just don't think they want to use their science like that, outside of when the more corrupt sages were in charge and they created a FATUI HARBINGER GOD GUNDAM. But, still, Nahida wouldn't let her city be unsafe, so it's probable the city is safer now than ever. Which isn't saying much considering how easy it was for a few Vision-holders, a band of Eremites, and a kid in a Nahida costume to dismantle all of Sumeru City's defenses and defeat all the guards.
To be fair to Inazuma, Ayato let them in.
I’m glad you mentioned that Visions would be ignored because I looked at the militaries of Teyvat in detail and a common theme was “yeah these work well if it wasn’t for Vision holders tearing them apart with Anemo tornadoes” (and mitachurls but uhhh)
i assume all guards have their own gliding licenses so the mond guards just fly up there and use chemically made anemo boosters
I just thought, an army trying to get into Fontaine could sneak in spies to cause chaos in the city and then have them open the doors for an army to trickle in through the aquabus lines.
They do seem to be welcoming enough to tourists...
Ironically Fontaine's best defence against foreign enemy spies would be the House of the Hearth as they would spot someone out near instantly
Yeah, however it would be hard to do that whitout being noticed by Cheuvreuse or Navia who are pretty well informed, and forgett about trying to infiltrate the fortress
@@nunobatista5822 Pretty sneaky spies indeed 🤔
Well worse come to worse, they have a dragon
Monstat is the only one with attack on Titan wall's!!😂
Monstadt is the best protected. At least it has walls, and has a crazy hill that they can use to hide atop of in the cathedral during an attack
Wait, why are we not counting the various mechs again for Fontaine? They are artificial soldiers but they're soldiers nevertheless and should be counted. Heck in the wiki for the Maison Gardiennage, the Gardemeks are under them. If we count them, you can't call Fontaine's army "small" anymore.
Also what about the watchful eyes of the Melusines part of the Marechausse Phantom? Surely they are very useful for recon even if they're not good when in comes to a fight. And yeah, the Marechausse Phantom is also under the Maison Gardiennage.
Also the vulnerability of that end of the Navia line is easily covered considering what and who is in that area practically 24/7. If an army gathers near there, Neuvillete will make short work of them. No way in hell he won't be informed if an army gathers near his backyard.
I'm of the solid opinion that when it comes to just military might(no vision holders/other entities i.e. gods etc.) Fontaine has the best(at least compared to the other 4 we know of, with Sumeru as last).
While they might have fewer human soldiers, they more than make up for it with the sheer number of Gardemeks of various utility and strength. Not to mention the guns. You'd find that guns are such a big game changer when it comes to war, courtesy of our world history. The same would apply here.
In my opinion, with what they have in the city, it seems relatively easy to just blast the supporting pillars for the aquabuses down and block all the entrances
2:07 this is what the dArKnIgHt hErO is for
fontaine has marchuseesaesae hunters so monster army is a no go unless youre the abyss prince/princess/king/queen that infinitely open warp portals thats full of monsters, also has arlecchino protecting the fatui side(these can change depending on situation), overall its well defended(not to mention a secret dragon inside)
I'm not even surprised, Signora just walked into Mondshadt with 2 of her soldiers no less, probably just blitzed the guards ngl, I wouldn't be surprised if Mondshadt is safe till now just because no one's actually interested in attacking it.
To be fair, her soldiers can turn invisible.
She's officialy a diplomat, not enemy, why wouldn't she
First of all, she's was a diplomat, second, the 80% of the forces are in and expedition to the equivalent of hell in teyvat
@@Juanajito Natlan is not hell
@@Jev_the_fluorescent_shrimp girl they talking about the abyss
3:33 I was caught surprised by the Age Of Empires 2 enemy attack sound. 😂
Same, I was gonna comment this, anymore age of empires players here?
Unlocked a core childhood memory of mine ❤
Triggering a fight or flight response
Would be really cool to have a city defense event
I always wanted the final arc of the game to be some kind of city defense war arc.
Inazuma doesn't need to concerned with security because of THEALMIGHTYRAIDENSHOGUN,ANDTHEMUSONOHITOTACHI
MistahFeet fan?
@@eliottlebris943 Lamo, I wonder what could've gaven it away
Dang I thought mondstadt would be the safest
It is, just because she says so doesnt mean its true
it probably would be if 80% troops and real grand master didnt go on vacation
Actually, from a military point of view, Liyue would be the most vulnerable. Even behind Sumeru. If an enemy captured the mountain range behind the city, almost all of Liyue would be threatened, with no room to fall back. I would rate Fontaine First and Mondstadt second. Choke points are historically very easy to defend. For that reason, many large battles in the Medieval age happened around bridges. Furthermore, Sumeru (assuming the tree doesn't burn), Mondstadt and Inazuma have layers of defense where they could fall back if they made a mistake at the first line of defense.
@@aluimmumitat It's very difficult to exploit that because of how tall those mountains are, plus the Guizhong Ballistae can be moved around (as seen in the Beisht attack) to quickly defeat large formations. The Jade Chamber itself is also a very powerful weapon with Ningguang's Geo powers.
If the attack came from the sea, they have the only canonically active merchant navy, that has Guizhong Ballistae on the fleet, and they have experience in fighting sea monsters too.
Given that Alice rigged up the golden archipelago, I wouldn't be surprised if Mondstadt could turn into a mountain fortress
Or Venti could literally just blow them into the ocean
Imo
1- Sumeru(is literally a giant tree house and there are little to no boundary walls..it ll get attacked from all sides at once.
2- Liyue...its literally "under" mountains. You can frankly rain arrows from above/detonate the rocks from up top. Even though this has the strongest army along side maison gardiennage they kind of have a topographical disadvantage..not to mention, their Mint and Forge are outside the city..on a very awkward offroad path, that will be occupied way too quickly. Infact their "hospital" is also at the absolute corner lol, meaning it can be targetted by bow users on the mountains. And the 8 trades and other qixing apart from Ninguang, basically 99.09% of their leaders work from Yuehai pavilion, which will either get crushed instantly by falling boulders and if not, it is right next to a mountain slope that can be easily climbed to infiltrate.
3- Inazuma - You ll have to fight a naval battle, to even land on the shores, which..is not that difficult considering narukami island has moor-able coastline..it does not have a lot of particularly punishing coastline. Plus you cut off Ritou and your trade goes poof, aka your foreign supplies. This will be a battle of attrition and wont be easy for Narukami island to be able to defend itself for too long, as all supplies would need to come via sea...means they can be intercepted.
4- Mondstadt - Block the bridge, and mondstadters will die of food shortage within their own four walls. Springvale would be captured. The current knights in the main city are not the "elite" ones other than the captains. They can try to bring some food via Cider lake but again, unless mond has a hidden fleet somewhere it would be difficult. So the battle will quite literally happen at the bridge.
5- Fontaine - Heck they live within massive walls already that too with no exits lol. Laying seige on that would be such a pain in the butt. Like there are legit NO open passages to outside of the city other than those aquabus routes. Not to mention, they have maison gardiennage right at the head of the city at Palais Mermonia. Aka you ll be facing an army of clockwork mechas, elite members of Special Security and Surveillance Patrol led by chevruse and the champion duelists(lol remember that chlorine ain't the only one). To make matters worse, while not the main base, Spina di rosula also has some forces there. If even this wasn't enough, house of the hearth is also within these walls, any attack on the city that puts them at risk, will force the fatui to mobilize as well...yep..you don't want to mess with their elite soldiers either, specially not the ones under the care of high ranking harbinger with a lot of political sway.
If even this wasn't enough by any chance, people of fontaine excel in diving, and they have underwater clockwork mechs too. So you would be fighting a Submarine warfare against the opponents that are good at it.
AND if even this wasn't enough, there is a very sizable amount of forces within Fortress of Meropide led by Wriothesley. The enemies might succeed in capturing the so research institute and opera house, sure. But the fortress is heavily guarded. Between the fortress and the city, they can even catch enemies in a pincer attack on the land.
As long as Fontainians use their resource just a bit sparingly, they are surviving any attack on them.
Now i ll go see the video, to see how wrong i am lol.
Ok watching the video and im halfway, and the video is assuming the enemies in the region mounting an attack, and my guesses were based on a foreign entity attacking the country in general attempting to capture the capital city.
We cannot simply forget that in matters of armies it would actually be very difficult to infiltrate the majority of cities, the Sumeru tree and the entire rainforest region around it already eliminates almost all chances of a major invasion (apart from the fact that it is a super hostile environment, Sumeru has vast technology and means of communication and organization) and there would be no way to simply burn everything because it is a rainforest.
fontaine is another one with good territorial defense and the surrounding region is a pain in the ass to move around (apart from the fact of fontaine's absurdly high technology) the best strategy would be boats, and even then there would be low chances (without mentioning the command and abnormally high organization in fontaine).
Inazuma is by far the easiest to get into, but there are also facts such as its large army and its weapons that are of extreme quality (practically a North Korea, and we also have the shogun).
liyue is simply incredible in several aspects, they have a maritime force, a large army and entrances closed by mountains that are very difficult to climb (even more so with armor and a large number of people) they have a great advantage in weapons that use adepti energy and literally magic, the jade chamber that could see an army coming within miles and could move and annihilate the army right there (just as we discovered through events that liyue and mond are focusing on new technologies for long-distance defense).
mond is simply very well protected by its hexagonal style of walls and only two easy entrances (and the port can be easily blocked) mond has a large number of soldiers even after Varka took 80-85% of them for the expedition, it has a large number of adventurers (by the way, the guild is close to the main gate, which gives a high advantage) and a certain number of hunters experienced in hiding from the Diona village, and we cannot forget that its hexagonal structure for the cathedral provides a great way to evacuation for the people of the city (they would stay in the church banker). We also have the great and good exploration and alchemy groups of Albedo and Eula (on a mission we discovered that the mond hexagon system is so good that the fatui tried to get the plants from Eula's family, just as Albedo was developing weapons from attack at great distances to defense after Varka takes most of the soldiers) and we still have strong people like jean and they can simply use a klee bomb to destroy the bridge in critical matters.
all this without having mentioned the issue of there being the adepti in liyue, Andrius and Dvalin in mond, the magical issues and the yokais in inazuma, the aranaras in sumeru and Neuvillette himself in fontaine.
let's not forget that 500 years ago, when everyone was less advanced, these cities defeated abnormally strong monsters from the abyss (fontaine alone and with only humans trapped elynas, which is the size of small islands).
Edit: in mond we also have the walls which would be incredible for archers, as well as the development of Albedo's group's weapons apparently also works underwater (and because the area around mond is almost flat, they could easily see an army coming miles away). They also have Lisa and some of the hexenzirkel witches if we count them (and the archons which alone are practically a defense).
@@hinomi107
For sumeru, its not the burning of the tree i m concerned about. Also, i am not just expecting tanks to come rolling. Assassinations of leaders, etc can also end the wars. Any suspicious group will be thwarted IF they come from the Gandharva Ville part thanks to forest rangers, who are actually a pretty strong force, not to mention their range, mobility, etc..they would be such a massive guerilla force employing poison, traps etc. its the Bayda harbor side that i am worried about. it is easy to infiltrate sumeru from that side(unless you count Aranara as line of defense lol), and then there is nothing stopping them form the back gate. Tree burning in that climate is impossible yes, but you can go around poisoning tree roots, destroy the Bimarastan(its literally right next to the northern entrance of sumeru), or march from that side to take over Citadel immediately. It would take too long from reinforcements from the Forest Rangers or desert folks to arrive(remember they are allies now).
Lol we have a similar stance on Fontaine, that city is not going anywhere lol. Infact even assassination attempts would be very difficult as cameras exist in Fontaine. If that wasn't enough, Spina di rosula exists to handle these suspicious elements of the society.
Inazuma is very easy to land on. You can use small boats, to transport soldiers in small batches at night to avoid any lookout. There is a massive cave system right below the Tenshukaku(where Ayaka's quest happens), and there are no guards patroling those coasts. It will take sometime, but an army can literally hide there and wait for more forcues to accumulate before they launch attack or terror strikes in the city at a random night. I am not counting the likes of shoguns, nahida, zhongli etc divine beings as a deterrent as then it just beats the purpose of doing this speculation. We are just testing out how safe the city is.
Liyue IS amazing in that sense yes. It has capable leaders, and probably the most goated army of all nations so far. Infact if it wasn't not for the masione gardiennage commanding armies over armies of gardemechs, Milleliths would easily be the strongest force(ok perhaps except Fatui). However, adeptal weapons are not as prevalent. Not to mention they arent used for usual surveillance and patrol. The fate of Liyue rests on the fact that, are we considering Liyue to be under Ninguang's leadership or some one of similar caliber or not. Because yes chances are she will see any attacks coming straight away, and it wont even have to do anything related to peeking from Jade Chamber lol. Her intelligence network is just scary af. However, my biggest gripe is, you can literally use the slope behind the yuehai pavilion to sneak into it. It is the place where all the qixing except Ninguang operate from. The guards are all stationed outside the pavilion, but no one is guarding that mountain side, hence, you can sneak in. My second gripe is, Bubu Pharmacy is located at a very awkward spot. A detonation on top of the mountain would utterly destroy it. I feel a place like pharmacy should be somewhat in a safer place. Because in case of a major conflict and battle of attrition, you need to treat the wounded constantly. You need an infirmary. In case of such an emergency, Liyue cant even call for backup easily as golden house guards are their only hope. Chenyu vale hosts a lot of training ground for Mileliths and there are some of them stationed at Chasm, however they are way too far away to be able to provide any support. The road form qingce village is unguarded and supplies and herbs can be cut off. All in all, it depends on whether the enemy can capture those hills or not. If they can, they win, if not, Liyue remains safe.
Mondstadt too has plus points but it is not that easy. Mondstadt can destroy that bridge to keep the enemies at bay yes. But this also means that they can now only get resources via cider lake now, and it would be very easy to see a supply ship headed for Mond. thanks to as you said a large view. Springvale is their only hope for assistance but against a trained army, id don't think hunter stand much chance in open land. If this was being fought in wolvendom, the hunters+wolves have deterred enemies like Forest Rangers do for sumeru. Area around mond does not have that kind of forests. The enemies can just camp in the open around Windrise and avoid forest areas. Rendering the hunter's skills much less useful. So destroying the bridge would mean that they effectively cut off their own supply route, and they will eventually just choke thanks to not having enough resources to sustain them.
While the cathedral(which is both a place where refuge can be taken and the healing centre of mond) seems like it is the furthest form danger, actually it is not. The walls of Mond gets lower and lower as you go up. And there are no guards there as well. If there is an entire order of nuns like rosaria, then they don't need to worry about assassinations in the cathedral but if Rosaria is the only exception, then it will go down south very easily as the cathedral is very easy to inflitrate. Not to mention, only Amber exists when it comes to Outriders(aka lookouts). There need to be more of those. There are no archers in Knights of favonius(at least not yet). The only archer there is Amber. All knights supposedly use swords. If those walls were high from all sides, or had soldiers patrolling those areas, i feel mond would be super safe, but in absence of these two things..it probably is not.
@@hinomi107 Um we are actually not considering personnel and divine aids from adepti or dvalin in this. As once again it renders the whole concept useless. The point was to discuss the cities as if they were real life places, not just ingame. I ll give adepti weapons and inazuman special steel a pass cuz we can assume that the humans of liyue just found an adepti weapon and managed to reverse engineer it.
@@apoorvjoshi2383 I know, that's why I only mentioned them at the end, in case you want to consider them. I would consider Inazuma's metal to simply be an ore, and in the case of adepti weapons, they were mostly recreated by humans like the ones in the scene against Beisht (and we were told that they are also now able to recreate permission seals, not very powerful, but it's a start). Thanks for replying, have a nice day
there's a lot of tactical problems on the economic part too. Where does each region takes its food from? its wood? its metals? and so on.
Same for the amount of houses. Fountaine is the only city that seemingly would have enough homes for its actual "viewable" population
0:39, as someone who lives in a place with a lot of islands (Sweden), yeah don't worry about it that is actually a pretty tiny island
12:04
“We’re using nature’s best defences - trees.”
“…Flammable trees.”
“Trees…are flammable. Yes. That is something we overlooked.”
“Yes.”
The Millelith + Bosacius were good enough to keep the Abyss confined to the Chasm, that’s pretty impressive
Sis investigated Mondstadt forgetting they have actually been developing nukes and long range radar (even underwater) for a year or so 😭
It's true if we're taking everything at face value it seems all of then was very lacking but with recent events they've been talking how the militaries are improving their defenses and they talked about their recent technologies and methods, and for several events it has been hinted that Albedo's platoon has been working hard on developing covert defense mechanisms that works long range rather than requiring armies at the front line because they realized how they are severely undernumbered because most of their best knights were taken away by Varka so they have to do what they must.
I think Mondstadt might also benefit from the existence of Andrius and Diluc keeping some perimeters of western Mondstadt safe (and the Springvale hunters to certain extent). It's also mentioned that Dvalin regularly goes out of his nest (Cyno's side event in Windblume event) so he might have hunted some monsters on the way too, adding to the region's overall safety. But yeah these are written with the lore consideration in mind because if we look at events and character lines, there are definitely a lot more soldiers in Mondstadt who are always on the patrol or out doing researches on the perimeters of the city (like Eula and Albedo's platoon), but we never see them in the game so we just have to trust them for it 😅
Nevertheless you raised a fair point. I never realized the lack of bars on the port side gate of Mondstadt and that certainly is an issue 😂 Good job noticing all the details.
Despite my comments, I still enjoy watching the whole video as there are some interesting mentions and notes and comparison with some real life defense, though perhaps if you are also going to just look at it at face value and not accounting lores and character lines, maybe it should be mentioned in the disclaimer too?
Exactly, and whit the vision holders that exist on Monstad and how stupid powerfull they are it would be near impossible to conquer the city.
And the tecnology as you said its moving on pretty well
Still for defenses my favourite scenariosis Noelle defending that bridge whit Diluc and Noelle and klee playing baseball whit bombs to defend the city from a safe distance 😂
Don't forget that if anything happens to Klee, the hexinzirkle will take action
omg do u have a source for the nukes thing? idk how i missed that its so cool
And uhhh Venti is awake?
Omg thank you so much! I needed this video to make my own video regarding Fontaine's urban planning issues. You made my life so much easier lol.
The fact that I the Sumeru Archon quest we littearly snuck in an entire army of people that surrounded and defeated the Corp of thirty from the Inside... If a full seig happened.
Your analysis is genuinely riveting, thank you for going into detail about weak and strong points, and also how the cities could improve security. Please do a part two when Natlan is fully out!! I would love to hear your thoughts it’s defense and offense capabilities!!
I do think that if Varka's company returned, Mondstadt would be the best equipped city to withstand a prolonged siege with minimal damage, until reinforcements from other nations can arrive. That is provided that they can block off the side entrance and get enough ranged-weapon personnel onto the walls. Maybe Tenshukaku would be even better for specifically that, but both Hanamizaka and Tenryou would completely burn to the ground in the meantime, not to mention it would take way longer for reinforcements to arrive.
Many things would like to add.
The Eremite thing is a bit complicated, they are not a monolithic group and act as roaming mercenaries and tribes, so they can be hired as mercenaries to fight other Eremites as part of tge city defence
Also the "Samurai" enemies of Inazuma arent Samurai, they are Ronin, masterless Samurai and wanderers, most of them historically like Eremite become Mercs or Brigands aka Bandits, so they can be also hired as Mercenaries, which is why they were sometimes seen with Treasure Hoarders or even Fatui.
Also, the Favonius Church of Mondstadt houses many Nuns who were once ex-bandits. Like Rosaria and a certain Chubby nuns, so when things are desperate they could be levied as competent militia.
8:53 Japanese wooden castles, are in fact, not easily burnable. This is a mistake in the video. Otherwise, nice analysis!
it's also worth noting that fontaine has acess to airships. so they can also use that (and the water cannon in that one event could be repurposed into an actual weapon again) to defend itself from incoming invaders. plus their entire naval fleet is composed of ships made of metals and not wood, so it would be significantly harder to bring those down. it's also geographically harder to traverse water than it is to traverse land because there is no coverage from mountains on the open seas (or lake in fontaine's case). the aquaducts are also relatively narrow and can't really hold a massive army of enemies, that and as you said they could just blow it up even before then. you should also remember that the fortress of meropide is literally connected to the opera epiclese and if need be, wriothesley could just launch a direct line of defense of military grade robots, who are much stronger than the average soldier and could easily endure monster attacks.
unless the invading force has submarines but fontaine is one of the most technologically advanced nations and id imagine they would be the ones to invent the first ever submarine in teyvat if anything.
2:06 they can walk in, but can they walk out?? Thats right behind Dilucs bar😢😢
4.7 There was a limited-time event involving military exchanges between the countries, and the commanders of Liyue compared the strengths and weaknesses of the armies of each country. The mercenaries of Sumeru have the advantage of being good at guerrilla warfare and can ambush for a long time with very few resources. Considering that Sumeru's rainforests and rugged terrain are not suitable for large marches, this suits them well. Rather than the city walls, Sumeru needs to have mercenaries and rangers evenly distributed and be able to pass information on each other.
The level of details and memes is insane
Love your videos 💜💜
fontaine does have the phantoms who could be like a hidden military to protect the city so there could be more than we can see
Well someone didn't read the modstadt lore, majority of the military and the actual ruler (Varka) have left on a long expedition, leaving mondstadt without capable military as the ones left are generally just the incompetent and too young ones, its a major point of its archon quest....
I think most of Sumeru's weaknesses (except the Divine Tree) are fixable due to new management (Nahida) being much more open to feedback and change. Architectural weaknesses are grave but some priority-shifting and reforms and Ksharewar can address these problems. Rogue Eremite factions are also decreasing in numbers due to the new efforts by Nahida to reach out and reintegrate more folks from the desert. With increased opportunities for education and employment, dangerous and illegal work will become less attractive options. The influx of desert folk looking for new employment in the city also provides a boost to the labor force, making repairs and new construction more likely to be accomplished in a timely manner.
I disagree with the choke points “ liyue city has natural choke points” yes, but so does mondstadt, and only one, the focking bridge. And I am sure collapsing a mountain is similar to collapsing a stone bridge. Yet for mondstadt you put it as a disadvantage. Clearly Liyue propaganda!
This is such a resinless behavior that I love it!
They are all weak because they don't have anti-aircraft artillery. Just one --plane-- dragon is enough to destroy the entire city.
Jade chamber?
Funneling your enemies into one path like the bridge is still a great tactical advantage
As the big tree of Sumeru is right next to a lake/river system, the roots even reaching into it, it's wood will always be very well hydrated making it fairly resistant to burning down. Thunder strikes would be a much bigger threat than fire as it would turn the water in the veins of the tree into steam and make it expand in an instance making them explode from the inside and rip apart (this is why thunder strikes split trees in half).
But to wet wood fire is not much of a threat... dead and dry wood would be vulnerable though.
Also I'm not entirely sure but hasn't the Corps of Thirty been more or less upgraded from mercenaries to the official army and law enforcement of Sumeru? I guess they can be compared to the Byzantine Varangian Guard (all Viking mercenaries in service of the Eastern Roman Empire) or the Vatican Swiss Guard whose colorful robes also hailed from their time as mercs.
I think I missed the bit about them restructuring. Was that after they got overun by the eremites in Act V??
I honestly love this video, you make genshin feel so real
Mondstadt also doesn't have any blindspot so the defenders can easily spot any attacker.. also one bomb from klee can immedietly destroy the stone bridge along with blocking the side gate near the port. And the fact that the city has walls means you don't need a lot of soldiers to defend. And finally because of the geography the island the city is sitting is slanted means that any attackers has only the main gate side or the port gate side to attack since pretty much the back of the city is impossible be climbed so the defenders can easily focus on certain part of the city without compromising the remaining part.
For Mondstadt they do have random nights patrolling areas outside of mondstadt and they have outrider Amber so they could possibly be warned before an attack
You really should take vision wielder into consideration. Since they are a massive aspect of the game.
Your editing, wit, and analysis is a marvel
I ask you reconsider ranking Inazuma higher than Mondstadt. Mondstadt may not have a draw-bridge but that bridge still serves to funnel invaders into a kill zone and the city itself is more of a fortress than Inazuma. And we still have yet to see Dorman Port. Soon, hopefully.
While I do understand discounting Vision holders in general, I think that there should be an exception for characters who are part of the guard force of their city. Mondstadt is an especially obvious case for this - 9 of the Mondstadt Vision holders are official Knights (Amber, Lisa, Kaeya, Jean, Albedo, Eula, Sucrose, Mika, and Klee), so taking them away makes the city look kind of bad.
We must take into account that Sumeru is run by a college.
-We have a Klee
-But we say No Vision
-WE....HAVE....A....KLEE....
Inazuma has one thing that Mondstat and Liyue don’t have:
An active archon who is (presently) that strongest combatant in the game
Yeah but Monstad has tons of powerfull vision holders lorewise, most of them could probably defend the main gate by themselves whitout much trouble.
In inazuma you have several skilled fighters but really "powerhouses" aside from raiden you have almost no one. At least i cant see any of them being able to face a big group of enemies for a long time.
In Monstad individually Noelle,Diluc,jean,eula Albedo ( klee would also be a nightmare to any army) could probably fight small armies by themselves and leave whitout a scratch
Raiden is NOT the strongest character on the game
Plus, venti and zhongli would 100% help their country in case of a invasion. "But he didnt help liyue in the crisis!" He was testing the people of liyue. He would intervene if it went out of control. Venti helped Mondsdadt on the archon quest. Dont see why he wouldnt help them in the case of a invasion
@@seventysixx currently she is, who else would be more powerful, and don't say nuvi he may be the hydro sovereign but he hasn't got his powers
@@Ak1rnathatguardian he does though? he regains his full authority as the hydro sovereign after the archon quest so idk what you mean when you said he doesn't have his powers? realistically ei probably has more combat experience but, if we're talking about raw elemental power alone neuvillette has them beat in that area. especially since only a fraction of the dragons authority are given to archons.
@@Ak1rnathatguardianyour last sentence implies that you haven’t finished the Fontaine archon quest. Spoiler alert: Neuvillette DOES regain his powers during Act 5 of Fontaine’s quest.
Historical facts
Dozens of countries with defenses such as Monstad and Liyue were successfully destroyed by Mongolian troops.
But the Mongolian troops lost badly in Japan which was exactly like Inazuma and also lost badly in Indonesia which was similar to Sumeru.
2:32 you mean archers
One thing I do want to mention about Fontaine is that they have flying boats - hence an airforce.
From using them as observation balloons to directly bombarding enemies they can be quite impactful on the battlefield.
Let’s not forget there’s also Wriothesley’s ship, which could be used for rapid troop transfer.
I think Sumeru would be the most impenetrable simply because of the World Tree, it is basically a maphack that will see all enemy movements like on a chess board. The dendro archon can also conjure colossal wooden walls in no time.
THERE IS an advantage of Mondstadt bridge even if its not a draw bridge...
Since the bridge is the most convenient point of entry, MOST enemy would go thru it- this works for Mondstadtians because they can launch concentrated fire (bows, canons,etc.) on that singular area...
And if you remember that one quest, Amber and the rest even barricaded and put obstacle on the bridge... this hinder enemy movement and make them susceptible to long range attacks
17:12 Arson!
Sumeru City is what happens when you let the Akademiya aka nerds in charge of designing the layout of the city. It's like a glorified tree house, and then just hire mercenaries.
I guess sumeru is what happens when you dont let your actual archon rule for 500 years
I actually agree with the mondstadt assessment, and im sure the devs knew this very well too because theres a commission quest where the side entrance was easily overwhelmed by a bunch of slimes and the traveller hv to help them out.
For inazuma, they do hv their archon who actively monitor and repel potential threats unlike the other 4 regions currently in the game. Liyue used to hv an archon that actively protect their region as well but has since retired after Osial's failed attack.
As for sumeru, they likely hv a different doctrine from the others, which is much like most jungle warfare irl. That is, they probably employ guerrilla doctrine with just how much caves, caverns, and hiding spots that soldiers can ambush from. This way, its up to the enemies to maintain whatever power and resource they can in the city at a severe disadvantage. So if you take into account the effectiveness of guerrilla warfare throughout history, sumeru might hv the worst defences, but they make up for it by being the best to survive long term warfare, that also includes war of attrition.
I disagree whit Monstad,they did the same mistake in the mission whit Diluc where they lefted the main gate unguarded which makes no sense especially after a warning to a attack (even if the other gate is under attack it makes no sense for them to leave the main unguarded)
And that aside most of the competent soldiers being out have you seen the vision holders inside the city?
I mean Noelle could probably defend the MAIN GATE by herself and there are a bunch of equally or even more powerfull in the city
She just deleted the Knights of Favonius damn
those frauds deleted themselves smh
OMG I can't even count the amount of contradictions here as a history student this was so painful to watch