1800's HOMEMADE Electric Class M Type Cylinder Phonograph-Only Example Known!
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- Опубликовано: 5 сен 2024
- Here is my circa 1898 completely homemade Edison Class M style DC powered Electric Cylinder Phonograph. I purchased this machine in a dusty, completely non-running condition about 25 years ago from the son of the original owner and creator of this magnificent machine. The gentleman (the son that I purchased this from) was very elderly at the time and was delighted to find someone like me who was keenly interested in his father's creation. His 'father worked for Edison and he was obviously very talented in his own right. The original wet cell battery that powered this machine when it was newly created was long gone by the time I purchased this machine. The machine sat idly on my shelf for more than 23 years as a non-working curiosity. Less than two years ago a good friend of mine who is handy with early electric motors took up the challenge of getting the primitive electric motor operating safely for me. I hope that you enjoy this fascinating look at a truly one-of-a-kind completely homemade early DC powered electric cylinder phonograph.
Completely astounding machine. Just got several Edisons the past few years in my older age, learning something about them, and this video is a treasure. Thank you!
"Flanagan and his Money" (one of a series of "Flanagan" cylinders) was recorded by a popular vaudeville comedian, Steve Porter, in 1907.
This Machine is truly SUPER AWESOME! THREE HUNDRED CHEER`S TO IT`S MAKER! It is truly a Work Of ART! The top comes off and HAS LEG`S For Easy Service!
Absolutely fascinating! The amount of effort he must have spent to create nearly all of it from scratch boggles the imagination!
Always a pleasure to hear from you, Bill. Thanks for your comments!
One of the best phonograph videos ever put on RUclips. Simply amazing discovery and it's a honor to see it work. Thanks for sharing and please do a few more songs when you get a chance.
A remarkable piece of work! The Standard top-plate must I think be from a Model B (1905-09), since there is no hole for the speed regulator in the front left-hand corner; on the other hand the carrier-arm has the old-style lever to lift the reproducer and therefore must be older (early 1903 at latest). The brass mandrel ought to be older still. I have never even seen a picture of an original Edison electric motor before, let alone seen one in operation. Thank you!
This is so amazing. I find the governor to be the most impressive aspect of this.
Lovely machine. Sounds superb for a 120 year old phonograph. Thanks for sharing
Thank you for your comments!
I love your videos, but in this case you are wrong. This is a Victor Edison Phonograph,,electric drive, and was made by the Edison factory, and it sold for $60 at the time.
Almost entirely correct.
According to the Edison Phonographs 1903 Catalog, the "Victor Edison Phonograph" you mention (Catalog Number A 3000) was a battery operated model.
The "Conqueror Edison Phonograph" (Catalog Number A 3001) was the same in general appearance and equipment to the "Victor", but was furnished with an electric motor wound to run on 110-120 volt direct current.
Connecting wires were attached to the nearest electric light connection. The catalog states that "The attaching plug will be furnished of any base required to fit customer's lamp socket."
Both phonograph models weighed 48 pounds.
While the "Victor" sold for $60 at the time, the "Conqueror" was somewhat more expensive, selling for $75.
What a fantastic contraption. Thanks for the video, i would've never seen one in action otherwise.
Very interesting to see such an unusual machine. I have been a collector for over 50 years and have never seen anything like it. It does though have an appearance of a Class M.
The governor looks to be from a Perfected phonograph and the phonograph part looks to be a Standard A. It plays quite well, and just maybe the guy that made this did not have the money for a factory model and obtained the parts from discarded phonographs. It would be interesting how it came about. Thanks for sharing!
This video and cylinder phonograph is incredible. What a discovery. This may be one of the most important phonograph cylinder machines ever discovered. It’s a joy to watch
and I’m so glad you decided to share it.
I would love that machine
Super machines !!!
my goodness that is incredible. that really would take some making especially back then. He must have studied a machine, or had one to get measurements. the stability of sound too is really surprising. A very talented person created this wonderful machine. thank you for sharing this rarity
You're very welcome, Matthew. Thanks for stopping in and for your comments.
I recently posted this video in the Antique Phonograph Society Facebook group, and somebody else has one just like yours. I doubt that this is homemade.
Made in the same home.
Very very good
What a beautiful machine! That motor is just awesome to me!
i saw a modern electric selfmade one.. very nice.. this is pure romantic: nice.
I would love to hear the story of how you acquired it. Thanks for making the effort to produce this video. The machine is stunning.
I love the governor.
you are one lucky man to own that phonograph. great find
Thank you for stopping in for a visit! I have enjoyed the videos on your excellent channel as well. I was thrilled to find this machine all those years ago and will never forget that day. To finally be able to see and hear it playing after sitting idle for more than 20 years was just wonderful.
This Phonograph is Awesome!
really enjoyed this video, what a fascinating machine. I wonder if the maker borrowed someones Edison standard to use it as a pattern to make the bedplate and carrier eye, or if he was a pattern maker and made the wooden patterns to cast the parts.
thank you , i did enjoy
Absolutely incredible!!
So I came back to this and now I realize, that motor is so strange, I have never seen a rotor with the windings oriented like that.
Usually you'd have the coils pointing outward but here they've placed them almost in like a ring, I wonder how that's meant to work, maybe I can look up to see if I find patents for it.
awesome
I actually saw another one at an auction. I’m in the antique business..lost the bid though.
could you do a video of this playing a period-accurate brown wax cylinder :)
1st electric motor drive attempted on a cylinder phonograph and the maker could started electrical music revolution before the 1920s when the real commercial kits were used
Wow that is pretty amazing! You're one lucky fella.
Love your channel and thanks for sharing.
This has to be one of the coolest things I've ever seen. Thank you for making this video! :-)
AWESOME!!!!
Now that is pretty damn cool. Are those the original belts linking the motor to the governor and drive train?
amazing
Thank you Ben.
Very nice homemade Class M made with a 2 clip Standard machine! Frankenphones don’t get this nice!
Wow😊
the standard square top model A standard phonograph base was made between 1898 and 1902.
class m type phono's were made for school scientific use until 1914!
the person who made this one probably made it to fit this type of use of the machine.
Edison would send out schematics of the machines to numerous schools for local engineers to build a machine so, that's what this is! a science class phonograph if you build the machine for your school the Edison company would send you the first batch of cylinder blanks for free! as well as the option of a cylinder shaver at a reduced price! the old-style automatic Edison reproducer offered the means of recording and playback it was rough but it worked! eh, in most cases you would turn the Edison automatic reproducer upside down and record and turn it back for playtime! also lots of folks would make their own reproducer/recorder with these Edison specs.
ps the max running rpm of an original class M machine would be 80 rpm since of the speed difference of 80 to 160rpm I date this homemade machine to 1903 to 1910.
I would like to see the motor and underworkings
what grooves it use ?
Vinyl Guy what? I don't quite understand. It's a cylinder, pretty self explanatory.
Vinyl Guy do you mean the style cut(again a cylinder pretty self explanatory) or how cylinders play? Based upon your name probably the latter as old cylinders are typically wax and old records are shellack mainly before the 50s. However please don't get offended. I am simply trying to help you. If you know a lot about cylinders , keep it up. If not, they're really cool and you might be interested in them.
really nice ! could you do another with the right reproducer and a Brown wax cylinder ? thanks !!
Where on earth, did you find this?
straight outta AMNESIA -
a machine for pigs 1899
Why not ask people to question what you are saying? There is no way that 'forged' as in 'cast steel' actually, could be done at home. Or even in a local engineering works! This is probably an older model botch up with other model parts, together with a motor off something else. Could have been made at any time. What is interesting about this 'edison era' fetish for old men, is the connection they could be making with the rise in carbon emissions. To afford these toys of the industrial revolution, people had to earn more and use up even more resources making other stuff for other people. The rural scene changed forever during WW1 and mechanised horse-power took over completely by WW2.