@@zlpatriot11 she was removed because she was a popular 1mil XP ship which was too low in WGs opinion. And I Krohns are actually quite good, even on the dispersion, and punish broadside BBs quite mercilessly. I wonder what PQ is doing here
@@mynameiswritinwater PQ was shooting DDs way too much imho. Yes, when you see DD you shoot it but.... not too much like blind fire. Also you have to be patient with your salvos and targets.
Wow. This answers so many questions I have about this ship as a destroyer player. I know it has a high WR% on the API but whenever it's on my team it never seems to be able to really hold its own or give DD fight support and now I know why.
It’s not that bad… I do ok in her. Remember though - it came before the BC changes and was supposed to be a murder Stalingrad. It existed at a time when fights were closer and you would bully cruisers and BBs . . . It needs some serious love in the dispersion and short fuse department. But she is not a DD hunter - she bullies cruisers and punishes broadside BBs - ideally at sub 15k ranges. My usual play is to support DDs early with the radar - the hunt enemy radar cruisers. Play the flanks - I saw you taking central positions a lot to maximise your dar - the dar is for late game - her real role is a flanking meatshield. All said - Alaska is superior
I have one and I see what you're saying. This ship is so frustrating though. Stopped playing it because even broadside cruisers and BB's you still just yank shots regardless. It USED to be a lot better but the passivity of the game continuing killed the fun of this ship.
I picked the Kron on day 1. It always was inaccurated... But not at these levels. I think It has been nerfed, by much. Sayed that, I've noticed the same, with each ship differences, dispersion, the same "almost-impossible-to-citadel" cruisers at less than 10km while I was using my Salem, Stalingrad, Moskva or Alaska. And then I have play the new operations, with some friends and clanmates. And we all had a light or heavy cruiser navigating at 6 to 10km full broadside that was impossible to citadel, that only received overpens... We think (from the perspective of a group of players that began with this 6 years ago) that WG introduced an specific RNG dispersion multiplier on the reworked bots from operations so the operations could be a harder challenge to TVIII ships... But at the same time it's like the evidence of certain variety of dispersion RNG depending of the number of battles and/or overall Performance un random battles. I know it's like a nonsense, but we really think each type of player from a newcomer, and/or "plain bad" player, to a hard veteran and/or "super unicum" player, has special RNG values associated.
I know this sounds conspiracy theoristy But I 100% believe they nerfed the Kronstad's dispersion when the Alaska was released. Number of shells I would land on target and the number of Citadels I used to get changed dramatically the moment Alaska was announced. That being said, it's still one of my favorite cruisers to play. I find it incredibly tanky and as long as you just go after cruisers and battleships, the damage output is decent. She definitely needs some love though.
soooo glad it's not just me and the ship is actually bad. On the other hand, however, I spent ages grinding specifically for it right when it was going to be removed and now I know for sure it was fundamentally a massive waste of my time...ouch
Look mom, I'm on TV! I was the Bourgogne in this PQ, I was using HE because of the nose in battleships and DDs in that flank's face. I saw your angle as well and would instead leverage trying to set you on fire etc. (disgusting and cheap, I know..but effective). Ended up switching to AP for the Monty etc., as they started their turns inward. The entire team melted, and the older folks are screaming how half the team is cowards didn't help either. Where should I have switched to AP to be more effective here? Thanks, big fan!
This video probably wasn't fun to make, but I really appreciate it; I get a lot of games like this, and it's nice to feel like I'm not THAT much worse than the people who know what they're doing.
At least we had the opportunity to witness the other side of your self being frustrated. Makes me feel better when I see that we all, sometimes, suffer in this game :)
I want to see how you play the Wooster. AA/Radar build. With a bit of armour and the swiss army knife way it works in a lot of situations it can be deadly.
Kron is famous for it's trolling dispersion. Find a spot, nose in back up and hope the guns work. I find it more of a defensive ship trying to block the other team and hope your team helps. It can blast broadsides on cruisers when the guns work well. Very frustrating ship too reliant on the RNG gods. And as I remember the accuracy was nerfed. It was an early Petro.
I don't have a problem with this ship. The dispersion isn't the best, but overall its possibly in my top 10 for ships in the entire game (owning most of them). There are one or two games once in a while which aren't great but other than that I'll struggle to do badly in the ship.
The fact that this ship was was on the no sell list while Alaska got to just sail around untouched for so long always baffled the fuck out of me. I assume it was more broken back in the day, but that doesn't change the fact that Alaska is still overpowered as hell. regardless, i will repeat my request of... uh _checks notes_ i didn't actually make a request. in that case, uh, how about Rochester?
First let say when it comes to wow your my go to you tuber. With that being said I like seeing you out of your comfort zone. You struggling to hit ships and just laughing in agony when things just do not go as planned was gold..I hope you do more videos like this. I play all my ships at every tier the good ones and the down right bad ones. Doing that has made me a much smarter player overall and in fact I find it a challenge and rewarding when you do better bottom tier in crappy ship than the rest of your team mates. You want to impress me get out of your comfort zone in half your games play some bad ships bottom tier and still have good games and maintain a plus 55% WR. Those our the players I respect the most..Best to you PQ
The struggles are real in that boat but it is one of my favorites, it's definately feast or famine. I find it best on a flank and at range semi kited. I never sit still in it, it's fast especially with speed flag. You have to prioritize bigger targets and at range you get less overpens.
Exactly. Semi kited and this thing will tank 2 mil damage easy. Even though the dispersion is kind of shit, the pen is amazing. Shoot a lot of AP against long range (targets of opportunity) broadside targets and you'll get some easy citadels.
Sorry I recommended this ship. I would recommend giving it some more time. It’s definitely a ship that can grow on you once you find a way to get it to tick right. Definitely try it out in t9 ranked, where I would say it has a lot more battle impact. Either way, thank you for at least giving it a spin. o7 As someone who has played several hundred games in the Kronstadt both in randoms and ranked, I can say that Kron can either feel insanely overpowered, more so than alaska, and other moments leave you wondering if all you have is a really hard to kill cruiser… that just got citadelled at range through the stern again, really?!. Her inconsistent guns are the most painful thing about her as your video shows. Though her funnest aspects that always kept me coming back was how hard she is to kill and how hard those guns hit when they connect even against battleships. Kron shells are not dodged, they need to miss. In the right scenario you can go toe to toe with battleships and laugh through the entire engagement, as at most, they will do to you as much as you are doing to them per salvo. This ship can get into really aggressive positions that will force the enemy to either respect her guns or get spanked when the guns do connect. I have found success in targeting larger vessels than I would in the other super cruisers. Getting into positions to get broadsides on cruisers and especially battleships (yes I know targeting just juicy big ships hurts your battle impact). Using radar mod to get up to 30sec of radar, light up dds for the team as anything with smaller guns than Kron will use it better. Unless you find a smoked cruiser, generally the radar is not for you to use. Just some random thoughts. Still appreciated the video and thank you for at least trying it.
I love my Kron. Maybe my most played ship. Usually go in with DD and try to waste the enemy DD with radar. Health pool is enough to take the early beating. Main reason I play her is that Kron has nearly the same credit buff as Missouri. I have both and I can’t tell which is a better credit earner. Why does nobody talk about how amazing the credit earning is on this ship?
"nearly the same credit buff" Missouri has a 40% base credit boost, Kronshtadt has 10%, just like every other tier 9. That would be why nobody talks about it, because it is exactly the same as any other tier 9, so why play Kronshtadt when you could play Alaska, or even Agir? The only ships with better raw credit earning potential are any premium you've purchased a Makoto Kobyashi camo on before the economic rework, as they have a 45% boost vs. Missouri's 40%. But that's only on specific ships, the most popular being Kii and Roma. But at the end of the day, credit earning comes down to how good you do. If you average 50k damage in Missouri, but 150k damage in Marlborough, you're going to get more credits in Marlborough despite Missouri's increased potential (assuming you had Missouri from back in the day to even get the 40% boost anyways). But you're still going to get more out of Missouri over nearly any other ship, assuming you can do about as well in it as those other ships.
@@SakuraShade I'm talking about the base credit earning that's baked in to the hull. Not the visible % bonus you can see. The built in earnings are crazy on this ship, which allows you to maximize those credit bonuses. Did you notice the nearly 1 mil credits PQ got for less than 50k damage in the vid? I have had games where I've done less than 10k dmg and I still earn 500-600k credits with a 160% bonus. Any reasonable game is easily 1mil or over with the same bonus.
@@wcolwil You do realize that they never gave a ship a similar bonus to Missouri right? That was half the reason they introduced Musashi, they wanted less people going after Missouri because of how easily it prints money. Kron came after Musashi, and has the same credit coefficient. Every tier 9 premium, including the new version of Missouri, has that same coefficient. He’s running a blue credit booster, you can still get a million credits in a decidedly average or below average game with a blue booster. Any premium can do it. Throw a red one on and you can probably get a million credits by auto piloting your ship through the center of the map. It’s designed to make you pay for boosters. The ship itself isn’t special, it’s the magic booster in the background that costs money doing all the work. I’m not telling you not to play Kron, if you like it and it works for you then great, that’s the point of buying a ship in this game. But in terms of credit earning potential, it’s just the same as any other tier 9 premium, bar the old Missouri, which has the same exact coefficient now, it’s old boost was baked into the new economic system, hence why I brought it up. The background coefficients are the same, tier for tier, across the board. Anybody with an old Missouri got the coefficient baked in, just as anybody with a Kobyashi camo got that bonus baked in to the new system. Missouri has 5% less boost than the Kobyashi camos, but it’s tier 9 so it’ll make more than a tier 8 or 7, so again in terms of raw output, Missouri, Roma, and Kii are your best options assuming you can perform the same in them. Getting 100k damage in Missouri, and 100k damage in literally any other ship, Missouri will win every time assuming you had it back in the day. If you didn’t, then Missouri is quite literally the same as any other tier 9 premium, and it’s just down to whatever your favorite happens to be, and what color booster you’re running.
Request: Abruzzi The Kronshtadt used to be good when it was the only super cruiser, but that was a long time back. The issue has always been that the accuracy is poor to absolutely terrible. The guns needs to be more accurate, end of story. There isn't a clever fix, the guns are fine (and just fine) shooting BBs with AP when broadside and that's it. Radar helps your teammates, but don't count on helping much with your guns.
Idk... When I play it I regularly get 200k damage... For me it's not bad at all, it was one of my favorite ship back in the day. I must admit that it's rough to play her in the today meta where you only have to fights dds and subs. But try it in ranked. Believe me, it's a ranked GOD. Actually now I only play her in ranked and I have very good results with her.
I'd like to see Richelieu - Jean Bart's less attractive sister. Seems like my results are one extreme or the other and I'd love to be more consistent. I either die horribly and do 50k or less, or roll everyone and do 150k+. I really like the "heavy cruiser flanking BB" play style though.
Request: Plymouth. As a player my average damage is only 47,000, so below average I think, but my average damage with a Plymouth is Just under 100,000. If you do play it do the range mod..
@@BalkMatt I actually did try but I find most people are usually 17-20km away from me if I've taken the cap. With reload mod, I spent too much time chasing and so the extra half second wasn't worth it for me. I'm also pretty unlucky when it comes to games. If I push left, most of their team goes right and are always somehow just at my max gun range no matter what ship I have. The sniping meta blows
This ship was actually one of my favorites when it came out, I would just go nose and wreck everything within 7kms. That said it could of been nerf in the last year, idk I haven't been playing.
Thought it was just me... the other day, I had a Broadside Zao from 7km or so... nothing but Overpens in my Marseille (BB guns).... 3 salvos, and he killed me with his Torps while getting away scot free.... so frustrating
@@titanfox1 It's getting kinda ridiculous at this point. Broadside Japanese cruisers and not a Citadel to be found. Even worse when you watch 5 shells hit the broadside but only get 2 ricochets and the other 3 dont even register.
im happy that i saw that. I was thinking that Kronshtadt is stalingrad at IX with worse armor aa etc. but from what i saw here? damn and i thought that Malborough is shotgun
Hey PQ, love your stuff. While you're correct on your dispersion assessment, I would argue you're playing the ship incorrectly - the kron is not the Stalingrad nor a DM, it does not want to be next to an island. You should use it to tank BBs, it ricochets most everything when angling and shatters lots of HE. You can commonly get above 3mil potential without Kutnesov. Play roving and hunting citadels, similar to the Agir. You should not be using HE more than 5% of the time. Disclaimer: I play largely solo with the Kron and have a 69% WR with it over 300 games.
Requests: St Vincent with Brisk and Expert Marksman survival build Kleber with full concealment BFT/AFT/EM build October Revolution full survival build Shimakaze full gunboat build Keep up the great work PQ!
I've been having the same luck with dispersion all week on the new brit BB line. Good aim but shells land behind and in front and whatever hits is an overpen or a bounce.
The guns take getting used to and yeah the pen on the ap is weird. Can be really good in some situations. Its just worse than Alaska. Alaska is good in all situations really. KROHN just sucks against gunboats dds when Alaska is just terrifying for a DD. I play this at range more like a French cruiser, the armor is troll for bbs and it keeps me from getting he spammed to death. The dispersion is so bad up close that it really doesn't help to be close, and the ap is more likely to arm at long range. I get a lot of cits... and tank a lot and save the radar to close out games. One of the main reasons not to camp in krohn is that you are so juicy for a carrier. No AA huge target and you arm ap bombs.
I don't think I've played the Kronshtadt in years but I had very good games with it back in the day. I got several krakens in ranked with Kronshtadt but like with most ships in the game they have their day and then get quickly power crept
It’s quite unfortunate to see you struggle in Kronshtadt and truly believe it is horrible. Personally it is one of my favorite ships and I have had a lot of fun in it. But it is with this and many anecdotes I have with my clanmates about various ships that it truly shows that not every ship is for everyone. I have friends struggle with ships I think are great, and I struggle with ships I know are amazing. Sorry to see you have a not fun time in a ship I very much love to play.
I would love to see some Nevsky. I know that’s another RU cruiser after this Kron gameplay and is a bit much, But would love to see some gameplay in the future
recently got this ship from a supercontainer, man.....its been painful to learn to play, but the times it does work from range burning stuff and ap citting people at 12k have made some stupid good creds.
I do like my Kron, especially shines in T9 ranked. I played a lot of Moskva in clan battles and Kronstadt has similar velocity but gimped range and dispersion. That said, you must angle, use HE and only use AP on broadside. It'll citadel BBs all day when broadside. You definitely didn't take full advantage of its HE in those videos. Give it another chance!
i just got this ship and i had quite a good matches with it but damn now am i suffering :( do you have any tips/guides i really like the ship and i wanna play it as i am so bored with BBs
To be fair, dispersion was trolling you. I get great dispersion in mine. It's not a bad ship, but it's definitely not a DD hunter - it fires too slowly, and it's too big. I use mine to decimate cruisers (with both AP and HE - gotta know when that overpen mechanic will troll you and switch), and broadside BBs. I must also mention that I haven't played it in months, but I enjoy the ship nonetheless when I do. Also, surprisingly, your aim was off on several salvos.
Kron is all or nothing for me. Either ates all the dmg from everywhere, or tanks a lot. Either makes 10k salvos on BB broadsides, or you need to pray for some hit at least. Love/hate relationship for me :D
The entire "large cruiser" thing is strange. Not exactly battlecruiser armor, slow reload time, one minute burn time. I have some of them (Alaska, Yoshino, Aegir and i'm NOT taking the Puerto Rico) but i don't use them often. Request: Staliniumgrad (compared to Marseille's 330 mm guns). Is that one still worth it?
hello PQ i think with Kronshtadt is the same problem with dispersion like with Napoli. i sugest to take a range mod in place of reload :) greetengs from NL
Back in the day when she was released I liked but never loved the Kroncake. She always fell just a little short whether it was her hitting power or tankiness. I would never take her out in the current meta.
Request: GK (fun build), non secondary build, 3rd slot use main guns accurancy, 6th slot use range mod, it became a lower accurancy Montana but faster shell velocity and beter pen.
Request: Gremyashchy probably one of if not my favorite tier 5 DDs next to kamikaze because I play the gremy with my khaba captain that has 14.1 km range at tier 5.
Request: HSF Harekaze (not the Harekaze II) As far as the Kron, it has troll dispersion. Most times it's horrid. But from time to time you'll get a great salvo and think "maybe I'm learning how to aim these guns'. And they it will go back to horrible. It is good if you have a mission to get potential damage.
Kron is definitely not a dd hunter, and indeed long practice is needed for aiming properly. But that said it's not a bad ship, like you said you just don't like it. I don't like Alaska and my games with it would look like yours with the kron. Kron is definitely my first choice for a t9 radar in ranked, and my last resort when I need to get à star
I think aiming is just bugged at the moment, I have so many salvos just falling short on a perfect broadside. Coupled that with a bad base accuracy is what is probably happening here.
Reminds me a bit of my experience with my Missouri. I have these great 250k dmg games with kraken, laser accurate salvos and everything. But in most cases its just pain. Dispersion trolls, i get hits on torpedo belts and overpens, for some reason a ton of full pens that do overpen worth of dmg and since the addition of superships.... i hate it. Or love it. Its... something
Kronshtadt is my favourite ship. If you find the gun dispersion a problem, you are not close enough to the enemy. I have had 6+ citadels in two broadsides on Yamato/Musashi on numerous occasions.
Ship request: the war canoe, Okhotnik
long boi
TOG of the Sea! Yesss
poor Potato, he will have to play these thing hahahahah
YES
I call it the banana boat with potato guns!
Request: Colombo, after the shell swap buff
Love the Colombo. She's the worst tier 10 I own but man is she fun
Who still remember when PQ had so much fun playing the Colombo?
Does anyone else feel like they quietly nerfed the damage on the columbos SAP?
still shit.
Yes, YES! More ships with horrible dispersion! Make him suffer!
The irony of Kronstadt was that she was removed for being too “popular and/or powerful”, then WG released Alaska 2 months later
Q: Was she removed so Stalingrad takes her place?
@@zlpatriot11 no, Stalingrad was actually already in game for a few months before they announced that they’ll remove her and Musashi
@@zlpatriot11 she was removed because she was a popular 1mil XP ship which was too low in WGs opinion. And I Krohns are actually quite good, even on the dispersion, and punish broadside BBs quite mercilessly. I wonder what PQ is doing here
@@mynameiswritinwater she was for 750k free exp not 1mln.
@@mynameiswritinwater PQ was shooting DDs way too much imho. Yes, when you see DD you shoot it but.... not too much like blind fire. Also you have to be patient with your salvos and targets.
Request: Druid. I don't think you've covered it yet.
yes
Would love to see that. Seen some very bad Druid players in ranked recently so maybe that can smarten them up a bit.
And then whenever I face a krondstadt it is when they're top tier, have insane dispersion and noone bothers to set them ablaze.
Remember how glad I was receiving her from crate.
Remember how sad I was with the dispersion...
Wow. This answers so many questions I have about this ship as a destroyer player. I know it has a high WR% on the API but whenever it's on my team it never seems to be able to really hold its own or give DD fight support and now I know why.
It’s not that bad… I do ok in her. Remember though - it came before the BC changes and was supposed to be a murder Stalingrad. It existed at a time when fights were closer and you would bully cruisers and BBs . . . It needs some serious love in the dispersion and short fuse department.
But she is not a DD hunter - she bullies cruisers and punishes broadside BBs - ideally at sub 15k ranges.
My usual play is to support DDs early with the radar - the hunt enemy radar cruisers. Play the flanks - I saw you taking central positions a lot to maximise your dar - the dar is for late game - her real role is a flanking meatshield.
All said - Alaska is superior
I have one and I see what you're saying. This ship is so frustrating though. Stopped playing it because even broadside cruisers and BB's you still just yank shots regardless. It USED to be a lot better but the passivity of the game continuing killed the fun of this ship.
I have never once regretted getting Musashi instead of Kronstadt.
Yep
14:18 pure suffering... I feel with you. But I honestly like watching these vids actualy...
request: zao i wanna see how well someone with a lot of experience can use a power crepst ship like it
People exaggerate how bad zao is. Very good kiting ship although it is very niche
i might consider grinding it in that case
@@combobreak6894 t9 is rough but zao is pretty good just hard to play.
I picked the Kron on day 1. It always was inaccurated... But not at these levels. I think It has been nerfed, by much.
Sayed that, I've noticed the same, with each ship differences, dispersion, the same "almost-impossible-to-citadel" cruisers at less than 10km while I was using my Salem, Stalingrad, Moskva or Alaska.
And then I have play the new operations, with some friends and clanmates. And we all had a light or heavy cruiser navigating at 6 to 10km full broadside that was impossible to citadel, that only received overpens...
We think (from the perspective of a group of players that began with this 6 years ago) that WG introduced an specific RNG dispersion multiplier on the reworked bots from operations so the operations could be a harder challenge to TVIII ships... But at the same time it's like the evidence of certain variety of dispersion RNG depending of the number of battles and/or overall Performance un random battles.
I know it's like a nonsense, but we really think each type of player from a newcomer, and/or "plain bad" player, to a hard veteran and/or "super unicum" player, has special RNG values associated.
if thats true, the game is rigged from the beggining
I know this sounds conspiracy theoristy But I 100% believe they nerfed the Kronstad's dispersion when the Alaska was released. Number of shells I would land on target and the number of Citadels I used to get changed dramatically the moment Alaska was announced.
That being said, it's still one of my favorite cruisers to play. I find it incredibly tanky and as long as you just go after cruisers and battleships, the damage output is decent. She definitely needs some love though.
I wouldn't play it as an island humper. Once you get stuck you're stuck. I have a lot more success playing in open water.
Ship Request: Carnot. Its have really good accuracy!
Gibraltar would be cool
soooo glad it's not just me and the ship is actually bad.
On the other hand, however, I spent ages grinding specifically for it right when it was going to be removed and now I know for sure it was fundamentally a massive waste of my time...ouch
Look mom, I'm on TV! I was the Bourgogne in this PQ, I was using HE because of the nose in battleships and DDs in that flank's face. I saw your angle as well and would instead leverage trying to set you on fire etc. (disgusting and cheap, I know..but effective). Ended up switching to AP for the Monty etc., as they started their turns inward. The entire team melted, and the older folks are screaming how half the team is cowards didn't help either. Where should I have switched to AP to be more effective here? Thanks, big fan!
I’d like to see you play secondary mikasa
This video probably wasn't fun to make, but I really appreciate it; I get a lot of games like this, and it's nice to feel like I'm not THAT much worse than the people who know what they're doing.
American cruiser Omaha ! the best ship in game :P
If we would win by exploding then the Omaha would be the best XD
At least we had the opportunity to witness the other side of your self being frustrated. Makes me feel better when I see that we all, sometimes, suffer in this game :)
I want to see how you play the Wooster. AA/Radar build. With a bit of armour and the swiss army knife way it works in a lot of situations it can be deadly.
Champagne really good flanker
Request: Scharnhorst main battery build
After I swapped to aim mod, my life in the shiny horse became much better ngl
Kron is famous for it's trolling dispersion. Find a spot, nose in back up and hope the guns work. I find it more of a defensive ship trying to block the other team and hope your team helps. It can blast broadsides on cruisers when the guns work well. Very frustrating ship too reliant on the RNG gods. And as I remember the accuracy was nerfed. It was an early Petro.
I don't have a problem with this ship. The dispersion isn't the best, but overall its possibly in my top 10 for ships in the entire game (owning most of them). There are one or two games once in a while which aren't great but other than that I'll struggle to do badly in the ship.
I play the Kron open water, get out to the flank and punish BB's. You can collapse a flank all on your own.
The fact that this ship was was on the no sell list while Alaska got to just sail around untouched for so long always baffled the fuck out of me. I assume it was more broken back in the day, but that doesn't change the fact that Alaska is still overpowered as hell.
regardless, i will repeat my request of... uh
_checks notes_
i didn't actually make a request. in that case, uh, how about Rochester?
When Kronstadt was released, it was likely WGs first attempts at creating artificial scarcity.
"What's the point of all this, if we can't hit one tiny cruiser??" Sums it up
First let say when it comes to wow your my go to you tuber. With that being said I like seeing you out of your comfort zone. You struggling to hit ships and just laughing in agony when things just do not go as planned was gold..I hope you do more videos like this. I play all my ships at every tier the good ones and the down right bad ones. Doing that has made me a much smarter player overall and in fact I find it a challenge and rewarding when you do better bottom tier in crappy ship than the rest of your team mates. You want to impress me get out of your comfort zone in half your games play some bad ships bottom tier and still have good games and maintain a plus 55% WR. Those our the players I respect the most..Best to you PQ
The struggles are real in that boat but it is one of my favorites, it's definately feast or famine. I find it best on a flank and at range semi kited. I never sit still in it, it's fast especially with speed flag. You have to prioritize bigger targets and at range you get less overpens.
Exactly. Semi kited and this thing will tank 2 mil damage easy. Even though the dispersion is kind of shit, the pen is amazing. Shoot a lot of AP against long range (targets of opportunity) broadside targets and you'll get some easy citadels.
ship request: FDG full secondary build
I have this ship, she's super fun in Co-Op battles, but nothing else
regarded the build, myself was running double rudder and i had a lot of fun playing the ship...
That Baltimore at game 3 was Baltimores cousin,known as Balti-no-more,when sailing broadside.Any other ship would smashed Balti to bottom
Sorry I recommended this ship. I would recommend giving it some more time. It’s definitely a ship that can grow on you once you find a way to get it to tick right. Definitely try it out in t9 ranked, where I would say it has a lot more battle impact. Either way, thank you for at least giving it a spin. o7
As someone who has played several hundred games in the Kronstadt both in randoms and ranked, I can say that Kron can either feel insanely overpowered, more so than alaska, and other moments leave you wondering if all you have is a really hard to kill cruiser… that just got citadelled at range through the stern again, really?!. Her inconsistent guns are the most painful thing about her as your video shows. Though her funnest aspects that always kept me coming back was how hard she is to kill and how hard those guns hit when they connect even against battleships. Kron shells are not dodged, they need to miss. In the right scenario you can go toe to toe with battleships and laugh through the entire engagement, as at most, they will do to you as much as you are doing to them per salvo. This ship can get into really aggressive positions that will force the enemy to either respect her guns or get spanked when the guns do connect.
I have found success in targeting larger vessels than I would in the other super cruisers. Getting into positions to get broadsides on cruisers and especially battleships (yes I know targeting just juicy big ships hurts your battle impact). Using radar mod to get up to 30sec of radar, light up dds for the team as anything with smaller guns than Kron will use it better. Unless you find a smoked cruiser, generally the radar is not for you to use.
Just some random thoughts. Still appreciated the video and thank you for at least trying it.
This was the funniest video you've uploaded! Your laugh was hilarious XD
I love my Kron. Maybe my most played ship. Usually go in with DD and try to waste the enemy DD with radar. Health pool is enough to take the early beating.
Main reason I play her is that Kron has nearly the same credit buff as Missouri. I have both and I can’t tell which is a better credit earner.
Why does nobody talk about how amazing the credit earning is on this ship?
It really is busted my friend got this out of a new years container a while back and even bad games and losses it still prints credits like crazy
"nearly the same credit buff" Missouri has a 40% base credit boost, Kronshtadt has 10%, just like every other tier 9. That would be why nobody talks about it, because it is exactly the same as any other tier 9, so why play Kronshtadt when you could play Alaska, or even Agir? The only ships with better raw credit earning potential are any premium you've purchased a Makoto Kobyashi camo on before the economic rework, as they have a 45% boost vs. Missouri's 40%. But that's only on specific ships, the most popular being Kii and Roma.
But at the end of the day, credit earning comes down to how good you do. If you average 50k damage in Missouri, but 150k damage in Marlborough, you're going to get more credits in Marlborough despite Missouri's increased potential (assuming you had Missouri from back in the day to even get the 40% boost anyways). But you're still going to get more out of Missouri over nearly any other ship, assuming you can do about as well in it as those other ships.
@@SakuraShade I'm talking about the base credit earning that's baked in to the hull. Not the visible % bonus you can see. The built in earnings are crazy on this ship, which allows you to maximize those credit bonuses.
Did you notice the nearly 1 mil credits PQ got for less than 50k damage in the vid?
I have had games where I've done less than 10k dmg and I still earn 500-600k credits with a 160% bonus. Any reasonable game is easily 1mil or over with the same bonus.
@@wcolwil You do realize that they never gave a ship a similar bonus to Missouri right? That was half the reason they introduced Musashi, they wanted less people going after Missouri because of how easily it prints money. Kron came after Musashi, and has the same credit coefficient. Every tier 9 premium, including the new version of Missouri, has that same coefficient.
He’s running a blue credit booster, you can still get a million credits in a decidedly average or below average game with a blue booster. Any premium can do it. Throw a red one on and you can probably get a million credits by auto piloting your ship through the center of the map. It’s designed to make you pay for boosters. The ship itself isn’t special, it’s the magic booster in the background that costs money doing all the work.
I’m not telling you not to play Kron, if you like it and it works for you then great, that’s the point of buying a ship in this game. But in terms of credit earning potential, it’s just the same as any other tier 9 premium, bar the old Missouri, which has the same exact coefficient now, it’s old boost was baked into the new economic system, hence why I brought it up. The background coefficients are the same, tier for tier, across the board. Anybody with an old Missouri got the coefficient baked in, just as anybody with a Kobyashi camo got that bonus baked in to the new system. Missouri has 5% less boost than the Kobyashi camos, but it’s tier 9 so it’ll make more than a tier 8 or 7, so again in terms of raw output, Missouri, Roma, and Kii are your best options assuming you can perform the same in them. Getting 100k damage in Missouri, and 100k damage in literally any other ship, Missouri will win every time assuming you had it back in the day. If you didn’t, then Missouri is quite literally the same as any other tier 9 premium, and it’s just down to whatever your favorite happens to be, and what color booster you’re running.
Request: Abruzzi
The Kronshtadt used to be good when it was the only super cruiser, but that was a long time back. The issue has always been that the accuracy is poor to absolutely terrible. The guns needs to be more accurate, end of story. There isn't a clever fix, the guns are fine (and just fine) shooting BBs with AP when broadside and that's it. Radar helps your teammates, but don't count on helping much with your guns.
Idk... When I play it I regularly get 200k damage... For me it's not bad at all, it was one of my favorite ship back in the day. I must admit that it's rough to play her in the today meta where you only have to fights dds and subs. But try it in ranked. Believe me, it's a ranked GOD. Actually now I only play her in ranked and I have very good results with her.
My thoughts exactly... took her into the t9 brawls and went nearly undefeated
I saw her a lot in Ranked, and she had to be respected. A lot of battles with her holding her flank or carrying late game.
I'd like to see Richelieu - Jean Bart's less attractive sister. Seems like my results are one extreme or the other and I'd love to be more consistent. I either die horribly and do 50k or less, or roll everyone and do 150k+. I really like the "heavy cruiser flanking BB" play style though.
Request: Plymouth. As a player my average damage is only 47,000, so below average I think, but my average damage with a Plymouth is Just under 100,000. If you do play it do the range mod..
I agree with playing it, but run the reload mod so when you kill the dds you go dark 😉
@@BalkMatt I actually did try but I find most people are usually 17-20km away from me if I've taken the cap. With reload mod, I spent too much time chasing and so the extra half second wasn't worth it for me.
I'm also pretty unlucky when it comes to games. If I push left, most of their team goes right and are always somehow just at my max gun range no matter what ship I have. The sniping meta blows
@@Skerra-kk6sm hmm I don't usually have that experience, mind you I usually play very aggressively
This ship was actually one of my favorites when it came out, I would just go nose and wreck everything within 7kms. That said it could of been nerf in the last year, idk I haven't been playing.
....could HAVE been nerfed...
Power creep made it worse it used to be a decent ship.
i would like to see the kearsarge in action, thinking of picking it up
I have notaiced a major jump in overpens in this last update. BB shooting broadside BBs..... getting overpens for days.
Thought it was just me... the other day, I had a Broadside Zao from 7km or so... nothing but Overpens in my Marseille (BB guns).... 3 salvos, and he killed me with his Torps while getting away scot free.... so frustrating
I just got the Mecklenburg. That thing is overpen city. I had nine over pens on a broadside Des Moines in a single volley.
@@Skerra-kk6sm well good for you T8 Mass vs montana at 7k 8 overpens at the water line that should have been cit city
@@titanfox1 It's getting kinda ridiculous at this point. Broadside Japanese cruisers and not a Citadel to be found. Even worse when you watch 5 shells hit the broadside but only get 2 ricochets and the other 3 dont even register.
im happy that i saw that. I was thinking that Kronshtadt is stalingrad at IX with worse armor aa etc.
but from what i saw here? damn and i thought that Malborough is shotgun
Ship Request: Congress. Still can't figure that mini Alaska out.
ship request: Amagi
Hey PQ, love your stuff. While you're correct on your dispersion assessment, I would argue you're playing the ship incorrectly - the kron is not the Stalingrad nor a DM, it does not want to be next to an island. You should use it to tank BBs, it ricochets most everything when angling and shatters lots of HE. You can commonly get above 3mil potential without Kutnesov.
Play roving and hunting citadels, similar to the Agir. You should not be using HE more than 5% of the time.
Disclaimer: I play largely solo with the Kron and have a 69% WR with it over 300 games.
If you're interested in replays on the Kron, feel free to HMU.
This is the Kremlin experience. They took away its guns, and destroyed a piece of gaming heritage.
Vandals.
A return of the Fletcher would be nice :) An old ship but it'd be interesting to see you play her again.
Actually love the Fletcher - for me it's the purest "destroyer" in the game...
@@tomriley5790 my favorite has always been the Kidd..
Requests: St Vincent with Brisk and Expert Marksman survival build
Kleber with full concealment BFT/AFT/EM build
October Revolution full survival build
Shimakaze full gunboat build
Keep up the great work PQ!
I've been having the same luck with dispersion all week on the new brit BB line. Good aim but shells land behind and in front and whatever hits is an overpen or a bounce.
I'd like to see Kronshtadt. 😈
I got the Alaska, and never played the Kronstadt ever again....I was screaming at the light cruisers on your behalf whilst watching this PQ.
Ship request: Borodino
The guns take getting used to and yeah the pen on the ap is weird. Can be really good in some situations. Its just worse than Alaska. Alaska is good in all situations really. KROHN just sucks against gunboats dds when Alaska is just terrifying for a DD.
I play this at range more like a French cruiser, the armor is troll for bbs and it keeps me from getting he spammed to death. The dispersion is so bad up close that it really doesn't help to be close, and the ap is more likely to arm at long range. I get a lot of cits... and tank a lot and save the radar to close out games. One of the main reasons not to camp in krohn is that you are so juicy for a carrier. No AA huge target and you arm ap bombs.
I don't think I've played the Kronshtadt in years but I had very good games with it back in the day. I got several krakens in ranked with Kronshtadt but like with most ships in the game they have their day and then get quickly power crept
It’s quite unfortunate to see you struggle in Kronshtadt and truly believe it is horrible. Personally it is one of my favorite ships and I have had a lot of fun in it. But it is with this and many anecdotes I have with my clanmates about various ships that it truly shows that not every ship is for everyone. I have friends struggle with ships I think are great, and I struggle with ships I know are amazing. Sorry to see you have a not fun time in a ship I very much love to play.
I would love to see some Nevsky. I know that’s another RU cruiser after this Kron gameplay and is a bit much, But would love to see some gameplay in the future
Not gonna lie PQ, this video was highly entertaining.
recently got this ship from a supercontainer, man.....its been painful to learn to play, but the times it does work from range burning stuff and ap citting people at 12k have made some stupid good creds.
Wait till tier 9 ranked comes back, lord knows when, as she can be pretty good in it.
It was not over penning the dispersion would not matter so much, its the OPens that are effectively nerfing this ship into the ground.
I do like my Kron, especially shines in T9 ranked. I played a lot of Moskva in clan battles and Kronstadt has similar velocity but gimped range and dispersion. That said, you must angle, use HE and only use AP on broadside. It'll citadel BBs all day when broadside. You definitely didn't take full advantage of its HE in those videos. Give it another chance!
i just got this ship and i had quite a good matches with it but damn now am i suffering :( do you have any tips/guides i really like the ship and i wanna play it as i am so bored with BBs
To be fair, dispersion was trolling you. I get great dispersion in mine. It's not a bad ship, but it's definitely not a DD hunter - it fires too slowly, and it's too big. I use mine to decimate cruisers (with both AP and HE - gotta know when that overpen mechanic will troll you and switch), and broadside BBs. I must also mention that I haven't played it in months, but I enjoy the ship nonetheless when I do. Also, surprisingly, your aim was off on several salvos.
Kron is all or nothing for me. Either ates all the dmg from everywhere, or tanks a lot. Either makes 10k salvos on BB broadsides, or you need to pray for some hit at least. Love/hate relationship for me :D
The entire "large cruiser" thing is strange. Not exactly battlecruiser armor, slow reload time, one minute burn time.
I have some of them (Alaska, Yoshino, Aegir and i'm NOT taking the Puerto Rico) but i don't use them often.
Request: Staliniumgrad (compared to Marseille's 330 mm guns). Is that one still worth it?
hello PQ
i think with Kronshtadt is the same problem with dispersion like with Napoli. i sugest to take a range mod in place of reload :)
greetengs from NL
Please cover the best Research Bureau ships!
Ship request: try to get Kitakami, never seen one before
That ship doesn't exist in game anymore. Noone has it
Request: Borodino to do a sense of change.
Ship request: Mahan T7 US DD. Also tips where to put the bonus T7 packages now that they are giving them out in the anniversary event.
I think the aimcamera bug is still active? When u move the ship the shells travel in that direction?
Back in the day when she was released I liked but never loved the Kroncake. She always fell just a little short whether it was her hitting power or tankiness. I would never take her out in the current meta.
It seem like you dont care much for the heavy cruisers, id like to hear your thoughts on the goliath.
Request: GK (fun build), non secondary build, 3rd slot use main guns accurancy, 6th slot use range mod, it became a lower accurancy Montana but faster shell velocity and beter pen.
Try Irian lighthouse. Depending on matching you can have a fun time.
Still asking for Alsace. A Krohnstadt will have a pleasant dispersion in comparison to a Alsace 😊
Nelson. Especially as a contrast to your Collingwood video.
Request: Mikasa full secondary
Request: I would like to see how you play the Pommern or Tirpitz
How about, French Light Cruiser Bayard?
Request: Gremyashchy probably one of if not my favorite tier 5 DDs next to kamikaze because I play the gremy with my khaba captain that has 14.1 km range at tier 5.
Request: HSF Harekaze (not the Harekaze II)
As far as the Kron, it has troll dispersion. Most times it's horrid. But from time to time you'll get a great salvo and think "maybe I'm learning how to aim these guns'. And they it will go back to horrible. It is good if you have a mission to get potential damage.
Whats your settings to get the enemies showing only the distance from you and when you target them you get the rest of the info? or is it a mod?
Kron is definitely not a dd hunter, and indeed long practice is needed for aiming properly.
But that said it's not a bad ship, like you said you just don't like it. I don't like Alaska and my games with it would look like yours with the kron. Kron is definitely my first choice for a t9 radar in ranked, and my last resort when I need to get à star
Dude, you don't have the dispersion mod put on
I think aiming is just bugged at the moment, I have so many salvos just falling short on a perfect broadside. Coupled that with a bad base accuracy is what is probably happening here.
Reminds me a bit of my experience with my Missouri. I have these great 250k dmg games with kraken, laser accurate salvos and everything.
But in most cases its just pain. Dispersion trolls, i get hits on torpedo belts and overpens, for some reason a ton of full pens that do overpen worth of dmg and since the addition of superships.... i hate it. Or love it. Its... something
Can we get a Kii/Amagi or a Hizen/Iwami comparison video?
Fenyang, the pre-buff Akizuki that is also nerfed. Little AP monster though.
Kronshtadt is my favourite ship. If you find the gun dispersion a problem, you are not close enough to the enemy. I have had 6+ citadels in two broadsides on Yamato/Musashi on numerous occasions.
Ship Request: Scharnhorst. Play her like you want to, I just want to check if I got a broken one or if the dispersion is really that bad.
Goulden leeuw next for them big caliber cruiser guns
Lol I love your attitude in this one. What a bad ship!! You made it look easy tho :p
Well glad to know it is not just me LOL
my most favorite and most played ship. its an overpen machine XD
That ship is meant for close up encounters I've topped 200k with it.
I’d like to see Bayard or Mainz
Request: Duke of York, built for maximum reload speed. I want to see if I'm insane for trying to build for that on my own Derk'o'Yerk.