Better late than never! Also, it’s good to see you’re feeling better with that smooth voice of yours in full flight. Great to hear your thoughts on the characters!
I love Lady Envy way too much! She's so delightful! Her Seguleh team + Toc and Tool might my favorite MoI storyline....maybe...lol Also I'm here for my girl Korlat getting some love.
Ganoes Paran is my overall favourite character, I've loved him from his first to his last scene. I appreciate his growth and also his weakness, makes him the regular human trying to keep up with legends and magic and super powers and, mostly, people who want to manipulate him. Anyway don't get me wrong, I enjoyed listening to your top 10 and your reasons, I just wanted to show my Captain some unconditional love 😂
Kruppe #1. Always. 😉 Ok, honestly Quick Ben is my top spot. But Kruppe is in my top 10. Because what you always seem to forget in your Lift comparison is Kruppe accomplishes things. Mayhaps by manipulating others into them. But he's at the center of why Darujistan doesn't fall. And again why the Alliance is formed. He draws together the means of preserving the Myhbe, and thereby allowing the Beast Hold to return. Is that luck? There's more than one kind of power in this world.
It's not that Kruppe isn't powerful, it's that he is annoying to have to read. His character is written in such a way that some people instantly dislike him, which I imagine is entirely intentional. On my re-reads I skip past his rambling, and get back to characters that are in some way interesting and entertaining.
@@Furniture121 And that's a shame, because Kruppe is a fantastic spin on the classic fop. The difference between persona and efficacy is what makes him unique. But then, I despise Kallor, and people tell me I should like him. So *shrug*
I see Ganoes Paran in much the same way as Toc, they are the "everyman" bumbling their way through a world of magic and legends. I have always liked him though, since he seems to grow the most, out of the main Malazan army characters. The others, like Whikeyjack are all legends in their time, so they don't grow, they just are.
Wouldn't Rake have been late through no fault of his own? Didn't the Malazan's rush in without telling their allies? Remember they split up and one of the groups went in early which forced the other groups to rush in to catch up. This was what let Kallor have his moment if you'll remember.
Bold prediction: you will come to love Kruppe by the end of the series. SO many other things I want to say, but can't do it without spoilers, so I'll just say I'm enjoying the read along. Thanks for bringing so many people into this world with you.
I just finished Memories of Ice today. Personally I just want the last 7 books to be the Toc and Tool show personally, with special frequent appearances of Korlat and Gruntle. I am so for them. Lady Envy can show up to add that junior high school vibe a bit, but then back to Toc and Tool, (and Gareth.)
Oh my God, another person referencing Stargate! I just finished memories of ice for the first time and I still have the notes from GotM that ascension seems a lot like it does in Stargate. Don't know how right I am but I felt lot of similarities.
Envy is awesome as a trope just taken to an extreme level and is just over the top. I would have not been surprised if Ganoes would have whined 'but I have to go to Taschi and pick up some power converters' early on. But he does get better when his tummy ache goes away. An interesting observation on favorite characters in a each book or the whole series in general, is how much impact one can have in just a few pages.
i want to know the Caladan Brood/Kallor/Rake backstory too. I'm lukewarm on Ganoes, but I think he and Quick Ben together are fun, QB seems to know how to prod Ganoes to action. I love Itkovian and all the Grey Swords. I'd be interested when you reach the midpoint of the series if you did a 'sum up' video of top 10 so far; characters, scenes, maybe throw in some predictions, though i know you don't like to do that. I think by then you've met most of the main characters...
Speaking of villains you love to hate, one of the Esslemont novels, Blood and Bone, manages to have two of the worst assholes in the Malazan universe in it with Kallor and Skinner. That book really drives home how Kallor's mindset works. Were you planning on reading Esslemont's Malazan books?
Caladan Brood would have brought the hammer down to end the world if it wasn't for the howling wolves. Don't blame the Malazans, Rake was later than EVERYONE. He turned up when the war was already over and the Pannion was about to cut his deal with Quick Ben and Kilava.
@@nilanniruthan Cell reception is spotty at 20 fathoms and the Ravens aren't known for their swimming ability. Not to mention Moonspawn handles like, well, a big pile of rocks.
I'd rate the Panion and The Crippled God for being great antagonists though we're only getting snippets of CG for now. My only issue with Panion is he gets a shot at redemption when he really shouldn't get one imo
@@meris8486 that was just a bonus - the real reason was Iktovians example... if you google Iktovian compassion quote you get the real reason... this theme is the main point of the entire series.
@@theriddler2277 It just doesn't sit right for me, I don't think Panion deserved compassion just death. They take him away from the Warren of Chaos and he's all "I don't feel so evil anymore" then it's revealed that his ice magic can help stall the bigger problem in the story of CG poisoning the world. How convenient. Panion is responsible for the death and torture of hundreds of thousands of people. I've some sympathy for him given the prologue, but I still think he should have been killed.
I’m gonna write you some fan fiction - Kruppe worldhops to Roshar and dates an older Lift and together they go on merry adventures. Might even start a gofundme for it… (Don’t ban me pls)
toc leaving lady envy wouldve been a genius decision had he not slipped into the pov of that one wolf. the seer wouldnt have found him out and he wouldve safely gotten to where he wanted to go
My top 10 i might not know their name but you ll know Mhybe Treach Rakes sisters and brothers (karlot) Quick ben Lady eny, companions Kruppe Two evertalking women grear camrederie Jaghut That jaghuts hostage The mother of the seed of the dead Ngl this is a wild book
Toc left Envy's group because there was no "protection" to be had there, they were a bunch of super heroes taking out entire armies, he could have died at any moment. Plus he was a Claw, infiltration is more his thing.
Yeah. I think there was no way he would have survived some of those battles Envy's group fought in. The question is would you rather have died in battle than go through what he did in the tenescowri and with the Matron?
Come on Mike, gotta give Kruppe some love. He is hysterical. He is right up there with Korbal Broach and Bauchelain for characters that cut the tension for me.
Calling Rake a drama queen, made me choke on my coffee.
Yes all praise to the high king Kallor. He’s got a great singing voice too
I like Rake. Don't get me wrong. But not as much as Rake loves him some Rake.
Better late than never! Also, it’s good to see you’re feeling better with that smooth voice of yours in full flight. Great to hear your thoughts on the characters!
Man, it was rough going there for a couple days. I couldn't even yell at my kids.
I love Lady Envy way too much! She's so delightful! Her Seguleh team + Toc and Tool might my favorite MoI storyline....maybe...lol
Also I'm here for my girl Korlat getting some love.
Korlat and Lady Envy are two spectacular characters.
Ganoes Paran is my overall favourite character, I've loved him from his first to his last scene. I appreciate his growth and also his weakness, makes him the regular human trying to keep up with legends and magic and super powers and, mostly, people who want to manipulate him.
Anyway don't get me wrong, I enjoyed listening to your top 10 and your reasons, I just wanted to show my Captain some unconditional love 😂
Kruppe #1. Always. 😉
Ok, honestly Quick Ben is my top spot. But Kruppe is in my top 10. Because what you always seem to forget in your Lift comparison is Kruppe accomplishes things. Mayhaps by manipulating others into them. But he's at the center of why Darujistan doesn't fall. And again why the Alliance is formed. He draws together the means of preserving the Myhbe, and thereby allowing the Beast Hold to return. Is that luck? There's more than one kind of power in this world.
It's not that Kruppe isn't powerful, it's that he is annoying to have to read. His character is written in such a way that some people instantly dislike him, which I imagine is entirely intentional.
On my re-reads I skip past his rambling, and get back to characters that are in some way interesting and entertaining.
@@Furniture121 And that's a shame, because Kruppe is a fantastic spin on the classic fop. The difference between persona and efficacy is what makes him unique. But then, I despise Kallor, and people tell me I should like him. So *shrug*
@@shawngillogly6873 he's an interesting idea, I just don't enjoy reading his rambles.
I see Ganoes Paran in much the same way as Toc, they are the "everyman" bumbling their way through a world of magic and legends. I have always liked him though, since he seems to grow the most, out of the main Malazan army characters. The others, like Whikeyjack are all legends in their time, so they don't grow, they just are.
I felt that SG-1 vibe as well. Loved it!
As my good man Teal'c would say; INDEED.
When Gruntle called Treach “The whiskered one”...epic! Also, honorable mention to Picker.
My Top 10 Characters:
1. Mhybe
2. Picker
3. Itkovian
4. Kallor
5. Gruntle
6. Silverfox
7. Toc the Younger
8. Lady Envy
9. Tool
10. Blend
Wouldn't Rake have been late through no fault of his own? Didn't the Malazan's rush in without telling their allies? Remember they split up and one of the groups went in early which forced the other groups to rush in to catch up. This was what let Kallor have his moment if you'll remember.
did not think about that 😂
I love listening to this. You are in for such a treat!!
Bold prediction: you will come to love Kruppe by the end of the series.
SO many other things I want to say, but can't do it without spoilers, so I'll just say I'm enjoying the read along. Thanks for bringing so many people into this world with you.
Bold prediction: He will never finish the series and never understand the gloriousness of Kruppe...
I quite enjoy Kruppe already in GOTM on my first read through atm
Great video! Toc and TOOL!!
Yes! Kallor made it! Ha! Instant like.
Love to hate 'em. That counts in these rankings.
#1 Lady Envy. Totally irresistible.
I just finished Memories of Ice today. Personally I just want the last 7 books to be the Toc and Tool show personally, with special frequent appearances of Korlat and Gruntle. I am so for them. Lady Envy can show up to add that junior high school vibe a bit, but then back to Toc and Tool, (and Gareth.)
Oh my God, another person referencing Stargate! I just finished memories of ice for the first time and I still have the notes from GotM that ascension seems a lot like it does in Stargate. Don't know how right I am but I felt lot of similarities.
Envy is awesome as a trope just taken to an extreme level and is just over the top.
I would have not been surprised if Ganoes would have whined 'but I have to go to Taschi and pick up some power converters' early on. But he does get better when his tummy ache goes away.
An interesting observation on favorite characters in a each book or the whole series in general, is how much impact one can have in just a few pages.
i want to know the Caladan Brood/Kallor/Rake backstory too. I'm lukewarm on Ganoes, but I think he and Quick Ben together are fun, QB seems to know how to prod Ganoes to action. I love Itkovian and all the Grey Swords.
I'd be interested when you reach the midpoint of the series if you did a 'sum up' video of top 10 so far; characters, scenes, maybe throw in some predictions, though i know you don't like to do that. I think by then you've met most of the main characters...
Speaking of villains you love to hate, one of the Esslemont novels, Blood and Bone, manages to have two of the worst assholes in the Malazan universe in it with Kallor and Skinner. That book really drives home how Kallor's mindset works. Were you planning on reading Esslemont's Malazan books?
I really liked Picker and Blend.
Agreed! Who knows, Maybe later he will rank them as favorites (PickerBlend, so they just count as one favorite.
I would have definitely put Spindle on my list....If it wasnt for his fucking hairshirt!!!
Rake wasn't late to the battle, the Malazan's rushed ahead and started way early. That was kinda the whole point.
Caladan Brood would have brought the hammer down to end the world if it wasn't for the howling wolves. Don't blame the Malazans, Rake was later than EVERYONE. He turned up when the war was already over and the Pannion was about to cut his deal with Quick Ben and Kilava.
@@nilanniruthan Because everyone else rushed in to save the Malazans, he wasn't late at all.
@@nilanniruthan Cell reception is spotty at 20 fathoms and the Ravens aren't known for their swimming ability. Not to mention Moonspawn handles like, well, a big pile of rocks.
I guess a Tiste Andii arrives precisely when he means to.
Tool is the man! I concur.
Poor misunderstood Kruppe. By the end of this series he might make it into Mike's top ....ummm 1000 Malazan characters.
Anything is possible.
I want a future appearance in the Witness trilogy where we get to see how much of Kruppe shows up in his daughters. @@mikesbookreviews
Your reactions to Kruppe make me laugh so hard. Love him or hate him he is a great character. :D
Man this book is gonna hit different on reread
So many favorites in MoI, Lady Envy, Tool and Gruntle where some of my favorites
1. Gruntle
2. Iktovian
3. Picker
4. Toc
5. Tool
6. Paran
7. Brukhalian
8. Envy
9. Whiskey Jack
10. Quick Ben
Maybe not top 10, but I wouldn't want to leave the book without a shout out to Hedge, my personal sleeper pick
Had to make sure my boy Quick Ben was in there because I clicked Like.
Mike dissing Rake wasn't enough for you? 👀
@@CounsellorofMoonsSpawn It is never enough.
Shocked you're not incensed at no mention at all of our two favorite necromancers, High Fist!
I rarely do favourites, but my list would be very similar to yours, maybe different orders. And add Kruppe to it, hehe!
I like Kruppe. Quirky little fella.
I'd rate the Panion and The Crippled God for being great antagonists though we're only getting snippets of CG for now.
My only issue with Panion is he gets a shot at redemption when he really shouldn't get one imo
*My only issue with Panion is he gets a shot at redemption when he really shouldn't get one imo*
erhmm you missed the entire point then.
@@theriddler2277
Did I?
They want his help in dealing with Burns Fever since he's very good at Ice Magic
@@meris8486 that was just a bonus - the real reason was Iktovians example... if you google Iktovian compassion quote you get the real reason... this theme is the main point of the entire series.
@@theriddler2277 It just doesn't sit right for me, I don't think Panion deserved compassion just death. They take him away from the Warren of Chaos and he's all "I don't feel so evil anymore" then it's revealed that his ice magic can help stall the bigger problem in the story of CG poisoning the world. How convenient. Panion is responsible for the death and torture of hundreds of thousands of people. I've some sympathy for him given the prologue, but I still think he should have been killed.
But wasnt the Pannion just manupulated by the Chained One? From my point of view he really just wanted to save his sister from long suffering
1. QB 2. Gruntle 3. Itkovian 4. Tool. 5. Toc 6. #TeamKruppe 7. Blend/Picker 8. WJ 9. Brood 10. Rake
#6 is incorrect.
I'm gonna give some love too Ganoes, Gesler and stormy ftw. I need more gruntle In my life. And my sapper Hedge!
Tool after watching the video: WOOOOOOO!
Do you have the folio society Dune edition? I just watched books with Brittney video
I wish. Too rich for me.
Anyone else notice the similarities between Kruppe , and Glen Cook's Saltimbanco from "A Shadow of All Night Falling"?
Tool is my favorite as well! I think I like Kruppe more than most, but if I had to deal with him in real life I would absolutely hate him! 😅
Most feedback I get is that everyone loves Kruppe but me.
Anomander did not show up late for the last battle - the malazans showed up early
I see what you did there.
Yeah, Tool is the best. I think Quick Ben is gonna be all over this story through to 10 I'm hoping and will be my favorite of the whole series...I
think...
When's book 4 getting started waiting on Trull and karsa thoughts 🙂
About halfway through. Spoiler Talk #1 should drop early next week.
I’m gonna write you some fan fiction - Kruppe worldhops to Roshar and dates an older Lift and together they go on merry adventures.
Might even start a gofundme for it…
(Don’t ban me pls)
Sounds like a brilliant idea my man!
Do it!
I just threw up in my mouth a little.
toc leaving lady envy wouldve been a genius decision had he not slipped into the pov of that one wolf. the seer wouldnt have found him out and he wouldve safely gotten to where he wanted to go
No bole brothers?!?!?!
Kruppe is awesome.
Zakk Wylde!!!
My top 10 i might not know their name but you ll know
Mhybe
Treach
Rakes sisters and brothers (karlot)
Quick ben
Lady eny, companions
Kruppe
Two evertalking women grear camrederie
Jaghut
That jaghuts hostage
The mother of the seed of the dead
Ngl this is a wild book
Lady Envy is, and I am not just saying this, psychotic. As in actually crazy.
#teamKruppe (i love how much you hate him 😊) Also Kallor 🖤!
And Lady Envy of course, she's just awesome. And Tool = cool.
reapears gale have best chacters
Reaper's Gale has great characters having great character moments!
SDMF indeed.
Not gonna lie I hated Ganoes in this book. I’m on Toll the Hounds right now and I promise that MoI is not the best of the series
Second half of the series is so good, crazy that so many ppl prefer MoI
Don't worry, even after reading the whole series, I never really cared for ganoes.
Toc left Envy's group because there was no "protection" to be had there, they were a bunch of super heroes taking out entire armies, he could have died at any moment. Plus he was a Claw, infiltration is more his thing.
This is the explanation in the book, but it's still weak writing an explanation. I say that as a huge Malazan fan.
Yeah. I think there was no way he would have survived some of those battles Envy's group fought in. The question is would you rather have died in battle than go through what he did in the tenescowri and with the Matron?
@@harima03 In retrospect probably not, but at the time he thought he could handle a bit of spying since he was a Claw.
@@Tremain Toc was.the redshirt in that group.
Oh, I get why he did it. I just don't know that his other option, joining a horde of cannibals, was a wiser choice.
Come on Mike, gotta give Kruppe some love. He is hysterical. He is right up there with Korbal Broach and Bauchelain for characters that cut the tension for me.
DEATH. FIRST.
@@mikesbookreviews haha!