In case anyone was wondering, the sleigh (assuming it really maxed out at 50,000 mph) would've made it from the North Pole to Trelew, Cornwall, England in about 3 minutes.
There's a contradiction in the movie about the S-1's top speed. After it returned, an elf asks Arthur if he fancied a trip on the S-1. They said it only goes 150,000 miles an hour. So that's about 1 minute 20 seconds. Then during their Christmas meal when Steve and Grandsanta are arguing, Steve says 'My S-1 festivitied the world at 1860 times the speed of sound!'. Mach 1860 is 1,427,120mph. Or a little over 8 seconds!
Perhaps it was more of a case of children being unsatisfied with the gifts they received, previously. You know, them not getting the right brand of the gift they asked for, the gift ending up damaged in some way, or some little and insignificant detail about the gift being wrong (such as the color). We know that Steve and the elves push aside perfection for the sake of efficiency. For example, they dismiss Arthur’s worry over a child not getting the correct colored toy. So, I believe that in the past they simply couldn’t satisfy the children, and this is the first time a child’s been truly missed.
"I wrapped 264,000 presents in three days, sir!" Man.. I know this is a movie so you gotta suspend some disbelief but that's inhuman. Working at Amazon, a good rate is around 300 boxes/hour. 72 hours * 300 boxes = 21600 boxes. Bryony works 12 times harder. That's unbelievable.
One pet peeve I have with this scene is Steve's delivery when Arthur gives him the game piece. He his showing how much he loves his brother, and how much he believes he'll make a great Santa, and Steve just brushes it off. If it were me, I would have had Steve smile warmly, hug Arthur, then deliver the line, 'How many times Arthur, it's the north poll. Shut the doors."
@@jonbilgutay2 Except that's exactly the films point making Steve unlikable; to make his arc later on narratively satisfying as, if the film showed him very warm and welcoming early on, that would rob the later scenes with him of any kind of narrative flow. Just saying.
The thing is, while he is at first dismissive, the lad actually held on to that Santa piece for the entire movie, he had it on his pocket this entire time even when he changed up to his Versace Santa suit, he kept it on him until the very end. He DOES appreciate the gesture by Arthur, but he’s too objetive orientated that he doesn’t feel the need or time to express it.
I think a hug is overdoing it a bit, but yeah. I think the scene would’ve worked a bit better had Steve responded to Arthur in a softer and gentler tone.
I remember when this came out to cinema. Me and my family got kicked out because we brought 3 to 4 year olds who ran around the seats and caused noise. Film got paused at the car dealership part and we got kicked out. No refund but a funny good memory.
I will never understand why a parent brings toddlers to the movie theater. Let one parent go and the other babysits. Regardless of your situation you shouldn’t make your annoying kids annoying for everybody else.
Honestly I know Steven redeems himself by the end of the movie, but his whole attitude throughout the movie and the fact it's revealed he resents children given Malcolm prioritized them over him it made me really wish he was a villain. The fact he refuses to fix his error and just personally deliver Gwen the bike she wanted out of pride just made him very unlikable in my eyes and he shouldn't have been forgiven so easily by Arthur.
Steve was never a "bad guy" he's just a stickler for procedure and wants to be dad's favorite. This movie was much better off with him as a soft antagonist that grows and gets redeemed than with him as a cut an dry villain.
Steve's character and role as antagonist is interesting as he's not downright evil, just a man driven by insecurities into doing bad things. He's obviously a control freak, but his decisive leadership is effective at keeping the Christmas operations going smoothly, like when Santa almost got caught in the beginning. He's done a lot of work in modernizing the North Pole, but he still feels under appreciated due to his father's reluctance to give up the title to him, Malcom himself also being driven by his insecurity over his age and identity. As such, Steve manifests his frustration by being spiteful toward Arthur's attempts to deliver Gwen's gift. Why should he help when all the praise would go to his grandfather and younger brother? To even admit that he missed a child would undermine all of his work; in his mind he can do everything right, but he makes one mistake and that's all everyone can focus on. So he rationalizes that it doesn't matter, and stonewalls every attempt to "fix" it as it undermines his "success" It's a very human type of of problem, and I'm glad the film DIDN'T make him a straight villain; just kind of a jerk who's frustrations and insecurities manifest at the absolute worst time.
There are natural reindeer living in the northern hemisphere. Since at 7:59 grand santa says not just a hobby, I'm assuming people let him keep the bloodline going under the belief it was just a way for him to pass the time.
I wonder what they'd do if a child doesn't want anything. Like there a 100's of millions of kids around the world, I'm sure there might be a few who don't really want anything. Just a thought.
Well I don't think they ever show the actual number of presents delivered, so I assume when they say a child was missed they mean a child on the list was missed
In case anyone was wondering, the sleigh (assuming it really maxed out at 50,000 mph) would've made it from the North Pole to Trelew, Cornwall, England in about 3 minutes.
and yet Steve throws the "within 5 days" as if any other mode of transport they have cannot beat Amazon Prime 💀
There's a contradiction in the movie about the S-1's top speed.
After it returned, an elf asks Arthur if he fancied a trip on the S-1. They said it only goes 150,000 miles an hour. So that's about 1 minute 20 seconds.
Then during their Christmas meal when Steve and Grandsanta are arguing, Steve says 'My S-1 festivitied the world at 1860 times the speed of sound!'. Mach 1860 is 1,427,120mph. Or a little over 8 seconds!
@liamtaylor849 Funny that, remove the 0 in 1860 times the speed of sound and suddenly the 2 values given are awfully consistent
If this is the most successful Christmas ever, than surely they’ve missed many more kids the years prior,
Perhaps it’s the speed? Based on how close they are until sunrise in England, it would’ve been long before sunrise in most of the west
@@SandwitchZebra they talked about efficiency
Which means they did miss more kids before
It's kinda worse if EVERYONE gets a present except one girl. if you think about it
Or there is just more children in the world than before
Perhaps it was more of a case of children being unsatisfied with the gifts they received, previously. You know, them not getting the right brand of the gift they asked for, the gift ending up damaged in some way, or some little and insignificant detail about the gift being wrong (such as the color). We know that Steve and the elves push aside perfection for the sake of efficiency. For example, they dismiss Arthur’s worry over a child not getting the correct colored toy. So, I believe that in the past they simply couldn’t satisfy the children, and this is the first time a child’s been truly missed.
"Christmas is not a time for emotion" Um yes it is
"I wrapped 264,000 presents in three days, sir!"
Man.. I know this is a movie so you gotta suspend some disbelief but that's inhuman. Working at Amazon, a good rate is around 300 boxes/hour. 72 hours * 300 boxes = 21600 boxes. Bryony works 12 times harder. That's unbelievable.
they're not humans though... they're elves...
plus, it's a movie for crying out loud, some things you just have to let be
That’s also accounting if she did it all in one go or over the span of those days with some sleep at night
One pet peeve I have with this scene is Steve's delivery when Arthur gives him the game piece. He his showing how much he loves his brother, and how much he believes he'll make a great Santa, and Steve just brushes it off. If it were me, I would have had Steve smile warmly, hug Arthur, then deliver the line, 'How many times Arthur, it's the north poll. Shut the doors."
Yeah... but that wouldn't be in character for Steve at THAT point in the movie now would it?
@@zakhorgan3129 Yeah, but I felt it would have humanized him a little. Show that despite their differences he still loves his brother.
@@jonbilgutay2 Except that's exactly the films point making Steve unlikable; to make his arc later on narratively satisfying as, if the film showed him very warm and welcoming early on, that would rob the later scenes with him of any kind of narrative flow. Just saying.
The thing is, while he is at first dismissive, the lad actually held on to that Santa piece for the entire movie, he had it on his pocket this entire time even when he changed up to his Versace Santa suit, he kept it on him until the very end.
He DOES appreciate the gesture by Arthur, but he’s too objetive orientated that he doesn’t feel the need or time to express it.
I think a hug is overdoing it a bit, but yeah. I think the scene would’ve worked a bit better had Steve responded to Arthur in a softer and gentler tone.
1:11 A CHILDS BEEN MISSED😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
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1:08
Do you want to wake up the whole north pole!?
@@alejandrocamacho8522 Good idea! A CHILD’S BEEN MISSED!!!
@@Eagercheetah20 ARTHUR!!!
I can't believe they missed a little girl and they won't even try to get the present there in time.
I remember when this came out to cinema. Me and my family got kicked out because we brought 3 to 4 year olds who ran around the seats and caused noise. Film got paused at the car dealership part and we got kicked out. No refund but a funny good memory.
Funny memory for sure but well deserved...
I will never understand why a parent brings toddlers to the movie theater.
Let one parent go and the other babysits. Regardless of your situation you shouldn’t make your annoying kids annoying for everybody else.
@@jackbruno953 it was my mother’s friend’s and their toddlers as well.
Deserved + L bozo
Womp womp don’t bring toddlers to a cinema
Arthur's Light Up Reindeer Slippers Are So Adorable and Cute
6:39 😂
This movie came out the same year as rio, rango and the adventures of tintin
Oh really!?
@juliane.mfarias9285 yes really
Guess one could point out that 2011 was a rather busy year.
Dang, good year for animation.
1:11--1:12 Good Idea! A CHILD'S BEEN MISSED!?!?!
Thank you for the movie ❤
Honestly I know Steven redeems himself by the end of the movie, but his whole attitude throughout the movie and the fact it's revealed he resents children given Malcolm prioritized them over him it made me really wish he was a villain. The fact he refuses to fix his error and just personally deliver Gwen the bike she wanted out of pride just made him very unlikable in my eyes and he shouldn't have been forgiven so easily by Arthur.
I think he has a point. If the S1 got damaged mid flight. It might cause problems.
@@CrAzYGAMINGWOLF Even if that was true, about the S1 getting damaged, I think they can repair it given Santa only makes his deliveries once a year.
Steve was never a "bad guy" he's just a stickler for procedure and wants to be dad's favorite. This movie was much better off with him as a soft antagonist that grows and gets redeemed than with him as a cut an dry villain.
Steve's character and role as antagonist is interesting as he's not downright evil, just a man driven by insecurities into doing bad things. He's obviously a control freak, but his decisive leadership is effective at keeping the Christmas operations going smoothly, like when Santa almost got caught in the beginning. He's done a lot of work in modernizing the North Pole, but he still feels under appreciated due to his father's reluctance to give up the title to him, Malcom himself also being driven by his insecurity over his age and identity.
As such, Steve manifests his frustration by being spiteful toward Arthur's attempts to deliver Gwen's gift. Why should he help when all the praise would go to his grandfather and younger brother? To even admit that he missed a child would undermine all of his work; in his mind he can do everything right, but he makes one mistake and that's all everyone can focus on. So he rationalizes that it doesn't matter, and stonewalls every attempt to "fix" it as it undermines his "success"
It's a very human type of of problem, and I'm glad the film DIDN'T make him a straight villain; just kind of a jerk who's frustrations and insecurities manifest at the absolute worst time.
"Wish he was a villain"? We don't need more idiotic twist villains, nor do character flaws necessitate a villain role.
😕Thank you😕
3:27 well it is
Why they stopped using eve and the reindeer?
More efficient to "modernize", at least in theory. Plus the world population's gotten bigger, so more houses to visit.
The real reason?
Blame Grand-Santa
@@CrAzYGAMINGWOLF what he do?
@@christoperfleming6832 I'm not spoiling the film for you. But let's just say he flew during the Cuban missile crisis.
I'm surprise the reindeers are still alive, Do they like let them roam when Christmas was over or they just kept them there
There are natural reindeer living in the northern hemisphere. Since at 7:59 grand santa says not just a hobby, I'm assuming people let him keep the bloodline going under the belief it was just a way for him to pass the time.
I wonder what they'd do if a child doesn't want anything. Like there a 100's of millions of kids around the world, I'm sure there might be a few who don't really want anything.
Just a thought.
Well I don't think they ever show the actual number of presents delivered, so I assume when they say a child was missed they mean a child on the list was missed
1:09 Do you wanna wake up the whole North Pole?
😂
HUMAN
1:12
Bryony’s the best character in the movie, in the odd chance a sequel comes out, she has to be the main character.
WANDER OVER YONDER
PLANETS
SPECIES
MEAP
VENUSIAN
MARTIAN
DISNEY XD
I know this movie came out before it’s day
But does it feel like Arthur is Saul Goodman an Steve is Howard Hamlin from better call Saul?
Brainrot
WHO
SPACE ALIEN
What do these cryptic messages mean?
MELMACIAN
ELF
SPACE ALIEN
WHO
MELMACIAN
ELF