So, lemme get this straight. In live matches, you sacrifice two missiles and some flight performance for the ability to close the range to a couple people who are using TWS. And in 1v1's, you can be potentially countered by the dude just STT locking you right at the start. A better solution here might be just to hold a notch, wait for them to close to within 25km, lock them with your radar swept to the side, and then off-bore the missile to neutralize the fight? Or, a better solution may just be to give the plane better missiles so it can actually stand and swing 😭
@@FishFlys That logic doesn't work. "R-27ER was king for so long, let the Russians get pummeled a bit" is just bad for balance. Know what that sounds like in plane terms? "The F-14A was clubbing the Russians so hard, so they should get Su-27 with full kit before the US gets F-16 or F-15". The Su-27 had ER and HMD over F-15, but that was it. F-15C now has virtually every single advantage over Su-27SM except now dogfight performance is tied due to F-15C's extra weight (Something F-15J doesn't have to deal with). Give both sides equally capable missiles with similar performing aircraft. It's as simple as that. No more of this "Well you got to club last patch" mentality.
I think when they went active they tracked your rockets lol that’s what it is when the active seeker see if I had known that I should have used AIM-7Ms … that might have been funny XD
Aero I’m not sure if you know but the SU-27 does have a radar gun sight that works really well when your first person. Gotta set a keybind to switch the cockpit sight and without a lock it’ll be a funnel, with a lock and within gun range it’ll switch to a t you can use really easily
It should be more similar to the Zhuk-M in modes tho in scan speed idk,now in range should be able to STT a fighter size around 150km but depending on altitude ...in WT alt conditions should be around 120 130km and has a scan range of 290km for larger targets...in WT stood exact same as the N001V with 100km scan range and 85km track range...also could track 10 targets simultaneosly not 2....
@@M0LOCK yeah in its current dogshit state it's only barely usable with STT to maintain guildance for either R77 or R27, multi target engagement is much worse than 29SMT
Red Team is Outranged, Outnumbered and has underwhelming airframes. Cant BVR long range, gotta get as close as you can but avoid the merge. (Any tips or is it just is what it is?)
My best tip is to play passive. Either fly near friendly airfileds or use the edge of the map to flank the enemy hard. Once you kill someone, run the hell away. And try not to spook people with your radar.
fly clockwise around the map with radar off at an alt that doesnt produce contrails and just sneak withing 10-20km and start picking targets, i get alot of kills with the MICA's this way which arent all that different from the r-77 (besides 50g thrust vectoring)
I think i once accidently shot aim-120 to oncoming missile and that saved me in air rb, anyone tested if that can be done to defeat missiles and close distance reliably or am i just tripping?
The fact that this works, or the fact that heatseekers regularly track missiles launched by the actual target, proves how busted and dumb this game really is.
@@McXerYT You'd have a great chance. The 54C's will definitely put range the R-77's by a huuuuge margin. 9L's are 9L's .. not great unless you get a perfect rear aspect afterburner shot, but if it gets down to real low speeds and you can survive the first few turns and the R-73's, the Tomcat will get the better of the Flanker!
Nah, it's legit. Using the game mechanics isn't cheating 😂. Kind of like how the 10 year vets love driving out of bounds to a hidden spot to spawn camp right at the beginning of the match on ground rb
Check out MCXER channel! youtube.com/@mcxeryt?si=67dQOgfrBC06ttrb
This tactic won't work in bigger rb matches, but it does work in sim and rb 1v1's
So, lemme get this straight. In live matches, you sacrifice two missiles and some flight performance for the ability to close the range to a couple people who are using TWS. And in 1v1's, you can be potentially countered by the dude just STT locking you right at the start. A better solution here might be just to hold a notch, wait for them to close to within 25km, lock them with your radar swept to the side, and then off-bore the missile to neutralize the fight? Or, a better solution may just be to give the plane better missiles so it can actually stand and swing 😭
Just flare the amraam. Trust me
@@NotAnWildPigJust switch off your afterburner bro, it'll surely confuse the AIM120 🥱
The notch idea worked super well in the dev server. Gonna have to give it a try in the live server!
give aim120 its time in the spotlight, 27er had a bigger performance gap on anything else than the 120 has over the 77 rn
@@FishFlys That logic doesn't work. "R-27ER was king for so long, let the Russians get pummeled a bit" is just bad for balance. Know what that sounds like in plane terms? "The F-14A was clubbing the Russians so hard, so they should get Su-27 with full kit before the US gets F-16 or F-15".
The Su-27 had ER and HMD over F-15, but that was it. F-15C now has virtually every single advantage over Su-27SM except now dogfight performance is tied due to F-15C's extra weight (Something F-15J doesn't have to deal with).
Give both sides equally capable missiles with similar performing aircraft. It's as simple as that. No more of this "Well you got to club last patch" mentality.
So the 9.0 rocket flares are back, but as chaff this time
Essentially, but it doesn't work well in anything bigger than a 1v1
I think when they went active they tracked your rockets lol that’s what it is when the active seeker see if I had known that I should have used AIM-7Ms … that might have been funny XD
XDDDDDDDDDDDDD AIM-7M would've thrown a wrench into my plans xDDD GO SUBSCRIBE TO MCXERYT NOW!!!!!!!!!
@@AeroTurtle LMFAO I SO WISH I HAD KNOW WHAT THE BLACK DOTS WERE T-T I WAS SO COUNFUSSED
Aero I’m not sure if you know but the SU-27 does have a radar gun sight that works really well when your first person. Gotta set a keybind to switch the cockpit sight and without a lock it’ll be a funnel, with a lock and within gun range it’ll switch to a t you can use really easily
still wondering if N001VEP should be as slow as the old N019 and N001, that TWS at close range is worse than using eyes
what's more ironic is even the Indian Mig21 got a better radar than N001VEP ffs
@@nelsonh.9651 that's just cap bro, indian mig 21 has the worst gimble limit , you can basically only lock/see planes straight infront of you
It should be more similar to the Zhuk-M in modes tho in scan speed idk,now in range should be able to STT a fighter size around 150km but depending on altitude ...in WT alt conditions should be around 120 130km and has a scan range of 290km for larger targets...in WT stood exact same as the N001V with 100km scan range and 85km track range...also could track 10 targets simultaneosly not 2....
@@M0LOCK yeah in its current dogshit state it's only barely usable with STT to maintain guildance for either R77 or R27, multi target engagement is much worse than 29SMT
Rocket pods are back on the menu, boys!
We got rocket pod ECM before actual ECM Xd
I have discovered the best way to evade the spamram stuff in this Patch! So, I haven played the game since patch released
Ez win
I knew that rockets could be used as flares, but now they're a head-on chaff too? This is just silly lmao.
This is fucking hilarious
xDDDD
what is this intro, bro's buggin
I was gonna say ninja turtles I swear
@@AeroTurtle sure bud 🤔
I swear the voices get to him more each video lmfao.
@@jaguar8940 I may be losing the plot
Cool video, also please keep making those ww3 war thunder vids they are very funny
I gotchu!!!
Red Team is Outranged, Outnumbered and has underwhelming airframes. Cant BVR long range, gotta get as close as you can but avoid the merge. (Any tips or is it just is what it is?)
My best tip is to play passive. Either fly near friendly airfileds or use the edge of the map to flank the enemy hard. Once you kill someone, run the hell away. And try not to spook people with your radar.
fly clockwise around the map with radar off at an alt that doesnt produce contrails and just sneak withing 10-20km and start picking targets, i get alot of kills with the MICA's this way which arent all that different from the r-77 (besides 50g thrust vectoring)
I think i once accidently shot aim-120 to oncoming missile and that saved me in air rb, anyone tested if that can be done to defeat missiles and close distance reliably or am i just tripping?
It should be able to work. It's probably hard to do though.
Bro my name is Mxer and I saw mcxer in one of my games? I said we’re twins and I never knew he knew you? Wtf.
lol
TWINS XDD
so an idiot can just fly towards you, fire the missiles and you should not only jump through the hoops, but do it skillfully lol. awesome.
Thats hilarious and dumb and I kinda love it lol
xDDDDDDDDD if it works it works!
there are simpler ways to do all this. all this dcs experience has paid off for me this update :P
XDDDDD This is true
The fact that this works, or the fact that heatseekers regularly track missiles launched by the actual target, proves how busted and dumb this game really is.
TURTLE IS THE TOP GUN MAVERICK THE MOVIE TOP GUN MAVERICK. I swear he’s just that good because he’s the TOP GUN MAVERICK THE MOVIE
I'm gonna have a seizure. ANWILDPIG COMMENTED ON MY POST!!!!!!!!!!!
F-14B vs SU-27SM
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Perhance 0_0
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@@AeroTurtle ill play the tomcat XD
since i love pain ... BUT AIM-54Cs are funny XD
@@McXerYT You'd have a great chance. The 54C's will definitely put range the R-77's by a huuuuge margin. 9L's are 9L's .. not great unless you get a perfect rear aspect afterburner shot, but if it gets down to real low speeds and you can survive the first few turns and the R-73's, the Tomcat will get the better of the Flanker!
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Try that at real match 😂
I did. It's saved me like twice. No more than that xD
Certainly a unique way, not very practical tho 😅
It's certainly not practical. Could work in SIM if you have a wingman, but still.
R-77 is OP in Ground rb. Just saying
Any fox 3 is op in GRB
real
This is cheating 😂
Xdddddddd
Nah, it's legit. Using the game mechanics isn't cheating 😂. Kind of like how the 10 year vets love driving out of bounds to a hidden spot to spawn camp right at the beginning of the match on ground rb
@@TeamValkyrie2023 True true
third ( also im early)
Let's gooo!
first
Real
This is stupid.